MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 951 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Reply to: Re: SOLO!/SB spoiler - Florian by Rozanna McNeer 2) Re: Solo/Congratulations/Lammas Night by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA 3) Petition --> FLUFF by Rozanna McNeer 4) Caution - strange idea ahead! by Barbara Slater 5) Reply to: Freedom's Landing by Rozanna McNeer 6) Re: Squirrels/I'm god of..urhm, uh../braids/deep by lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) 7) Re: careful who u invite. he might show up/aimed at infodyn by Disney 8) Re: Fluff greeting by lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) 9) Re: who do you know? by lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) 10) Medley: Solo again/New Priestess/DragonCon/matya by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA 11) Braid: Gods/Tigana/Archives/Songs/fidelity/Leslac/Music/Huh? by Ken Hyde 12) Re: careful who u invite. he might show up/aimed at infodyn by "V. Brockmeier" 13) mostly heavy fluff, but some good stuff too. by GRAYMT-+AT+-centum.utulsa.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:03:42 -0500 From: Rozanna McNeer To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" Subject: Reply to: Re: SOLO!/SB spoiler - Florian Message-ID: <199611151404_MC1-C09-ECCC-+AT+-compuserve.com> SB SPOILER SPACE SB SPOILER SPACE Intersting theory, julie! but I thought Karal was going to be the Ambassador to Iftel. . . where is that blasted book? can't find it, think it's loaned out to some family member just now -- does anyone else know? Firemist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 14:16:28 -0500 From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Solo/Congratulations/Lammas Night Message-ID: <199611151926.OAA21038-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA> Lynne Markova, my Goddess whom i love and serve faithfully, wrote: >Silence. Then, suddenly, an entire host of angels breaks into the >"Hallelujah Chorus." Aaack! The song that starts off with 10 Hallelujah's in a row! It's still fun, though! > > CONGRATULATIONS, LADY WOODLARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >The Goddess of Music and Song is extremely pleased that Her most deserving >Acolyte has received the solo she has worked so hard for. She gifts Lady >Woodlark with an invisible Cloak of Confidence, which will 1) prevent Lady >Woodlark from *ever* spilling anything on a dress, choir robe, or gown >before a performance, and 2) ensure that Lady Woodlark *never* misses an >entrance, and always stays with the conductor. (Available to non-acolytes >upon tithe (weg)) Thank you very much! Seeing as i'm probably going to wear the tux shirt, i could really use that. Then again, she might let me dress special -- i don't know yet. > >BRAVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Oooh! I feel all tingly and warm inside! >The sulking Goddess of Music and Song wishes to thank Lady Woodlark for >her support during this latest rejection (sigh!), and wishes to assure her >that while She is down, She is not yet out. I'm extremely glad to hear that. >RE: Anne McCaffrey/Harper Hall books >One thing has been bugging me about "DragonSong" for at least ten years. >In the very beginning, when Menolly is doing the Teaching, her hands slip >out of the Teaching Ballad, and she plays some of her own work. Her >father hears this, and comes in and beats her (grr). what I want to know >is, how in the world did her father ever become so familiar with the >teaching ballads that he would even *know* when Menolly was playing her >own stuff? Emily said some good stuff about this. Also, wasn't Rune's stuff all catchy and made you tap your foot and want to sing along wheras the Teaching Ballads were more formal? >Lady Sophia (no longer sobbing, but still sulking) I'm glad to see that. >Goddess of Music and Song You're not trilling yet? Here, let me help. Think "O Sleep, Why Dost Thou Leave Me?" The very last "my wandering love." Now tell me you weren't trilling the sub-median and i will be concerned. ObMisty: Err... is anyone keeping track of all these great songs we're suggesting (not a retroactive volunteer). |~| _______________________________________________ |~| | |~| free bard woodlark -- dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA |~| | ~| |_______________________________________________| |~ ~ ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:28:53 -0500 From: Rozanna McNeer To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" Subject: Petition --> FLUFF Message-ID: <199611151430_MC1-C00-3165-+AT+-compuserve.com> O Cennydd, Master-God of Karma and Avatar of Nomenclature , I humbly submit my petition of Goddess-hood to Thee. I wish to be made the Goddess of Made-From-Scratch Foods. If this comes under the Goddess of All things Domestic's purview, I will gladly change my petition to be a demi-goddess in Her Realm. I can make everything from Apple-stuffed Porkloin to Zucchini Brownies. I make killer fajitas and have received no less than four marriage proposals for my dessert cooking skills. I eagerly anticipate Thy answer. Firemist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:42:27 -0500 From: Barbara Slater To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Caution - strange idea ahead! Message-ID: Caution - strange idea ahead! It seems, IMMHO, that there're a ~lot~ of musically-inclined folks on this list, and I had an odd thought creep into my cranium the other day... [I'm being ~very~ careful with it - it's in a ~strange~ place! =)] What if, at the DragonCon, we got together and actually tried ~singing~ some of the filksongs? Sort of a 'DraConale'? It might be a lot of fun...I've got one of the songbooks... ObMisty: Don't need one - this one's on-topic! Lani ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:57:18 -0500 From: Rozanna McNeer To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" Subject: Reply to: Freedom's Landing Message-ID: <199611151457_MC1-C10-8700-+AT+-compuserve.com> Sophia wondered if any others found Freedom's Landing a bit unrealistic Well, think of it this way. They all *know* that Earth itself is enslaved/embattled. So, sure they'd miss what it *was*, but they are all also realistic enough to know that if they somehow did manage to go back, things would not be the same as when they left. Also, they are on a strange planet which they have to learn about - what's good to eat, what are the native dangers, etc. And there are those robot thingies. And the big Harvester ship. They do have other pressing problems the should leave them physically exhausted by the end of the day so that they are too tired to be very violent I think that the immediate concenrs of day-to-day survival, and figuring how to get off of the planet over-rode the 'I wanna go home' bit. You know the old saw about how there's nothing like a war to help during an election? War gives people a common enemy to unite against. They don't have to like each other all that much, but if the enemy is perceived as different enough then people will stick together in spite of their personal feelings towards one another. Violence: people wanted to kill the Cat - Zainal Mitford and Arnie were both thinking about how to 'deal' with Kris when they found out she was the one that stole the flitter Bad stuff: Aarens the trouble-maker Patti Sue being raped repeatedly Firemist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:58:31 EST From: lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Squirrels/I'm god of..urhm, uh../braids/deep Message-ID: <19961115.135901.12342.5.Lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com> on the 15th david sent a message about Matya. Hey thanx. Matya ( the squirrel) appreciates your vote of confidence. Well, I'll just let him tell you. :hello-man-who-wrote-about-me.-you-say-there-are-other-squirrels-here-?-where-where-where-?--by-the-way-do-you-have-any-pecans-by-any-chance-?: so-long-man, M-a-t-y-a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:15:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Disney To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: careful who u invite. he might show up/aimed at infodyn Message-ID: <01IBVLMY7JTE00AO2B-+AT+-ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> *raises her hand shyly* Robert Frost... Walking Through Woods on a Snowy Evening I had to memorize the whole dang thing in the 8th Grade (thank you, Mrs.Yeiser) and for some strange reason it stayed with me. And since I am now a soph in college, that's a while for it to stick. I'm the only one of the class of '95 in my school who actually could recite it now after so many years.. *srednop* same with _Walrus and the Carpenter_. I don't know why that one stayed with me, but I love to recite it to myself when I get bored. *grin* obMisty.....*ponder* I did have one, I promise.... Well, I'm a US history major (secondary ed teaching, that is) and I was thinking about fun ways to get my students to think about history. I was pondering letting (for extra credit or something) students read like some kind of Misty book, say, *shrug* _Storm Warning_ for example, and have em relate the Valdemar/Empire conflict with America/Soviet Union of the early 20th. Whatcha think? What ways can I get kids to like reading (which is part of my goal for teaching) fun stuff while still incorporating it to US history? Well, doing laundry, have only 4 more loads to do, which will take all weekend here on campus *bows to goddess of Laundry* I'm off! <> High Priestess of Sensitivity **ALL HAIL THE MOUSE** "Disneyworld" worshipper of the Mouse All HAIL the MOUSE! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:58:31 EST From: lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Cc: lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com Subject: Re: Fluff greeting Message-ID: <19961115.135901.12342.1.Lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com> On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 06:10:01 GMT "Hth." writes: >Hey! I know you! Michelle Reis. YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. Now, quit >impersonating a newbie, dammit! If I remember your name, you must >have >been here long enough to say something interesting, at least. The >squirrel is new, though, am I right? I like it. I have badgers! Yes, I've been here before.Yeah, I aquired that dam....uh most wonderful and helful of little squirrly buds. And cute,too.(looks around fearful of small furry watchers.) >So, belly up to the Bards and tell us the *real* story. When were you >here before, and how long, and why did you leave and why did you come >back? I even remember you being from LSU. Why do I remember that? >Haven't the faintest idea. These bits of information sometimes get >stuck in my brain for no obvious reason. The world is full of much >strangeness. And the occasional giant badger. I didn't really leave, but I've never really gotten on. This is for several reasons.1.) The list processor wouldn't send my posts. It got quite irritating. 2.)Not only weren't my posts sent, but *it kept kicking me off* (fumes for a moment) 3.)I was on my university's e-mail/internet system which is *really* tough to get on so I could only check my mail maybe 3x's a week. Its not fun to go through 300 posts in one sitting. But now I'm on a new e-mail system (Which is FREE, manaical laugh) so I can check several times a day:) And of course I came back for the terrific company. So heyla everyone. My bond-squirrel Matya sends his greetings too. (be warned: watch out for your pecans. He *loves* pecans. Oh, and I'd like to send my own petition through. May I please be a multi-god alcolyte? I'm into polytheism, so I'd like to worship you all. Please, please? Thanx everyone. Lightstorm lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com [Sparhawk blinked."Dolmant,"he said,"you're the most devious man I've ever known." ] [ "I'm glad you approve, my son."The patriarch smiled. ] [ The Diamond Throne ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:58:31 EST From: lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: who do you know? Message-ID: <19961115.135901.12342.2.Lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com> On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:53:23 GMT "V. Brockmeier" writes: > >Kind of an interesting experiment here--I hope no one gets annoyed at >me; >just thought I'd give it a boost, ok? > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:35:23 -0600 (CST) >From: H. Hiles >To: kari-auen-+AT+-uiowa.edu, leticia-dieleman-+AT+-uiowa.edu, > kelly-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, hilesb9813-+AT+-uni.edu, > cwinter-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, ladavis-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, > vbrockme-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu >Subject: who do you know?(fwd) > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:20:18 EST >From: Nathan A. St.Clair >To: sbentley-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, nbondi-+AT+-butler.edu, > caucutna-+AT+-martin.luther.edu, beinms-+AT+-aol.com, >fagajere-+AT+-martin.luther.edu, > dvorak15-+AT+-aol.com, jamie-gerdes-+AT+-augustana.edu, > goldsber-+AT+-students.uiuc.edu, mhaley-+AT+-mmc.mtmercy.edu, > jlharris-+AT+-iastate.edu, hhiles-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, >hopewej1800-+AT+-uni.edu, > l12aj03-+AT+-aol.com, mjkelle2-+AT+-students.wisc.edu, >kinnemki-+AT+-martin.luther.edu, > dmattiso-+AT+-students.uiuc.edu, kmoylan-+AT+-iastate.edu, >ednelson-+AT+-iastate.edu, > katobr-+AT+-clare.edu, schroda6264-+AT+-uni.edu, jason-sifrit-+AT+-uiowa.edu, > vanstang-+AT+-aol.com, astricke-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, tatham-+AT+-stolaf.edu, > tigermch-+AT+-martin.luther.edu, btramte-+AT+-butler.edu, > mvirgo-+AT+-students.wisc.edu, ctweb-+AT+-juno.com, dmweth-+AT+-iastate.edu, > djwillia-+AT+-blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, llw919-+AT+-aol.com >Subject: erika jo roberts : Who do you >kow? (fwd) > >Do you know the theory- That everyone in the world is separated from >each other by 6 or less people? For example I pick a random person >that I don't know. Well, I know someone (first degree), who knows >someone (2nd), who knows someone (3rd), who knows someone (4th), who >knows someone (5th), who knows someone (6th), WHO KNOWS THE RANDOM >PERSON. When you first think about it, it doesn't seem possible. But >think of it like this: Say you know 1,000 people, each of them knows >1,000 people, each of them knows 1,000 etc. (In actuality, we all know > >more people than 1,000). If you multiply it out it comes out to >1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 People. Now it seems possible. So >let's >test out the theory. Here's how: I'll be the first person to put my >name >on the list, included with the city and state I grew up in, my age, >and >where I live now. I'll also include today's date so we'll be able to >see >how long it takes. I will send this letter to everyone I know who has >an >email address. They will add their names and other info to the list >below mine, and then send it to everyone they know. > >HERE'S THE KEY: After you put your name on the list it should >eventually come back to you from other people. If you see someone's >name on the >list that you know, send them an email to let them know. > >Here goes: Add your name below mine. > >1. Paula Cinnamon, No. Brunswick, NJ, 30, Miami Bch, Fl 10/31/96 >2. Sandi Zuckerman, No. Miami Bch., FL, 29, Coconut Grove, FL 10/31/96 >3. Tammy Koleszar, Mercerville, NJ, 26, Golden Beach, FL 10/31/96 >4. Gina Castellano, From: Miami, Fla., Age: 26, Now: Hallandale, > Fl., Date: 11/1/96 >5. Yolanda Nicado, From: Madrid, Spain, Age: 27, Miami, FL 10/31/96 >6. Cathy Jo Hejna, From Miami, FL; Age 25; Now: Chicago, IL 11/1/96 >7. Christine Tremblay, From Hoffman Estates, IL; Age:17 >Now:Charleston, > IL 11/3/96 >8. Michael J. Sacks, From Hoffman Estates, IL; Age:18 Now: Urbana, IL >11/3/96 >9. Sarah Day, from Winston-Salem, N.C.; Age:18 Now: South Bend, IN >11/3/96 >10. Jason Elek, from South Bend, IN, age 18 now: South Bend, IN >11/3/96 >11. Sara May Brandt, From: Hoffman Estates, IL, Age: 18, Now: South > Bend, IN 11/4/96 >12. Doug Vor Keller, from: Streamwood, IL, age: 17, now: Urbana, IL >11/4/96 >13. Mike Wikman, from: Fridley, MN, age: 18, now: Urbana, IL 11/4/96 >14. Aarti Dhupelia, from: Barrington, IL, age: 18, now: Evanston, IL, >11/4/96 >15. Michelle Zemel, from:Wilmette, IL age:18, now: Evanston, IL, >11/4/96 >16. Catherine Spector, from: Winnetka, IL age: 18, now: New Haven, CT, > > 11/4/96 >17. Carolyn Nguyen; Manhattan Beach, CA; 18; New Haven, CT 11/4/96 >18. cheryl shannon; manhattan beach, CA; 18, hanover, NH; 11/4/96 >19. Heather Klein; Southbury, CT; 18, Hanover, NH; 11/4/96 > >20. Katie Lachter; Huntington, NY; 18, Hanover, NH; 7/14/78 >21. lizabeth roberts; naperville, il; (soon to be) 18; hanover, nh; > 11-11-78 >22. Jen Preston; Delaware, OH; 18; Hanover, NH; 3/19/78 >23. Andy Thomas; Dublin, OH; 19; Columbus, OH; 8/9/77; 11/5/96 >24. Heather Soyka; Asheboro,NC Bennington, VT Westlake, OH ; 18, > Columbus OH; 5/10/78, 11/5/96 >25. Shannon Pierson; Cincinnati, OH ,18,Columbus OH,4/21/78,11/5/96 >26. Douglas Niehaus; Cincinnati, OH, 19, Columbus OH, 10/15/77, >11/5/96 >27. Todd Cummins; SinSinnati, OH, 18, 05/23/78, 11/6/96 >28. Craig Rigney; from Cincinnati, Oh, now in Amherst, NY, 18, > 05\28\78, 11\6\96 >29. Morgan Bonney; from Seneca Falls, NY. Now: Amherst, NY. Age: > 18(08/04/78), Today: 11/6/96 >30. Erica Doland; Seneca Falls, NY. Now: Niagara University, NY.18; > 11/6/96 >31. Alyssa-Rae Zonarich; Seneca Falls, N.Y. Now: Allegheny College, > PA. 18 (Today is my birthday!!!) 11/6/96 >32. Shannon Altimari; Westerly, RI (home) Burlington, VT (used to live > there) , (now) Allegheny College, PA. 20, 11/6/96 >33. Tara Olexa; from Delaware, OH; now Allegheny College, > Meadville, PA; 18, 11/6/96 > >34. Jennifer Fuhr; from Pittsburgh, PA; now Allegheny College, > Meadville, PA; Age: 18, Today: 11/6/96 >35. Charles C Huang ; from Wallingford, PA ; now -+AT+- johns hopkins > university, baltimore, MD ; age 18, today's date : 11.7.96 >36. livingston cheng; from wynnewood, pa; now -+AT+- farmington, maine (or > cornell univ: ithaca, ny); age 20; today's date: 11.7.96 >37. Kathy Ng; from King of Prussia, PA; now-+AT+-penn state university, > university park, PA; age 18, today's date: 11/8/96 >38. Phil Avery; from good old South Windsor, CT; now-+AT+-penn state > university, University Park, PA; age 18, today is 11/8/96 >39. Bob Harscheid; from the most exciting place on earth, South > Windsor,CT; now-+AT+-providence college, Providence, RI; age 18, today >is > 11/8/96 >40. Morgan King;from South Windsor, Ct now -+AT+-Conn College,New London, > Ct, age 18 today is 11/8/96 >41. Julia Greenleaf; from Yarmouth, ME;now -+AT+-Connecticut College, New > London,CT; age 18, today is 11/8/96 >42. Heather Garneau; from Yarmouth ,Me; now -+AT+-University of Maine at > Orono, Orono Me age 18 today is 11/9/96 >43. Sarah Jemeson; from Yarmouth, Me;now at University of Maine at > Orono, Orono, ME age 18 today is 11/9/96 >44. Bethany Lesure; Bedford,MA; now: University of Maine, Orono. > 18 years. 11/9/96 >45. Casey Reever; Ashland, NH; now: Saint Michael's College, > Burlington, VT 18 years. 11/9/96 >46. Amy Laauwe; from Ashland, NH; now: Lynchburg College, Lynchburg, > VA 18 years old. 11/9/96 >47. Wendy Goldsmith; from Chesapeake, VA; now: Lynchburg College, VA > 17 years old. 11/9/96 >48. Bonnie Mahl; from nj, germany,england and Chesapeake VA, now > Virginia Tech VA, 18 years old. 11/9/96 >49. JESSICA WESCHE, from NJ, at Virginia Tech, VA. 18 years old. > 11/10/96. >50. Huma Javed; from Richlands, VA; now: Virginia Tech, VA;18 years > old;11/10/96 >51. Aliza Goldman; from Palatine, IL; now Duke U in Durham, NC; 18 > years old; 11/10/96 >52. Resha Shah; from Hoffman Estates/Schaumburg, IL; now: George > Washington University, Washington D.C.; 18 years old; 11/11/96 >53. Michelle Zietlow; from Hoffman Estates, IL; now: Valparaiso > University, Valparaiso IN; 18 years old; today is 11/11/96 >54. Ellen Goetz; from Ottawa, IL; now: Valparaiso University, > Valparaiso, IN; 18 years old; today is 11-11-96 >55. Lori Harms; from Flanagan, IL; now: St. Ambrose University, > Davenport, IA; 18 years old; today is 11/13/96 >56. Regina Blakley, from Mackinaw, IL; now -+AT+- St. Ambrose University, > Davenport, IA, 18 years old, today is 11/13/96 >57. Amy Oppe, from Canton, IL; now -+AT+- St. Ambrose University, > Davenport, IA; 18 yrs old, today is 11/13/96 >58. Erika Roberts, from Canton, IL; now -+AT+- University of Illinois, > Champaign-Urbana, IL, 18 years old, today is 11/13/96 >59. Nathan St.Clair, from LeClaire, IA; now-+AT+- Luther College, Decorah, > > Iowa, 18 years old, today is 11/13/96 >60. Hilary Hiles, from Bettendorf, IA; now -+AT+- University of Iowa, Iowa > City, IA, 18 yrs old, today is 11/13/96 >61. Vickie Brockmeier, from Warrensburg MO, now of Iowa City IA, 18 > years of age--today is 11-14-96. 62.Michelle Reis, from Baton Rouge,La:Now-+AT+-Louisiana State University,BR,La 18yrs old, today is 11/15/96 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 15:34:03 -0500 From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Medley: Solo again/New Priestess/DragonCon/matya Message-ID: <199611152044.PAA07840-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA> >Lady Sophia just got this last set of messages.... > >No, no, Lady Adrianne, you misunderstood me. Lady Woodlark's CHOIR >DIRECTOR would have been demoted if she hadn't given Lady Woodlark the >solo! Lady Woodlark would only have been demoted if she set up her >audition, and then skipped it! Thank you! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! And I would never commit that kind of sin unless i were kidnapped! Even then, i'd beg the villains to let me go to the audition and *then* they could kidnap me! >Granted! (you may also revert to dramatic sopranodom, if you prefer). I believe I'd prefer the latter, please. >A follower? Hmm... well. Lady Shadra (it is Lady, isn't it?) the >Goddess of Music and Song appoints you as First Priestess of Harp >and Woodwind Techniques, and gifts you with a silver woodwind instrument, >which automatically becomes whatever instrument you happen to feel like >playing at that time. She also gifts you with a set of magical harp >strings, which never break, and never go out of tune. Welcome, Sister Shadra! -+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+- Firemist said: >>I can make everything from Apple-stuffed Porkloin to Zucchini Brownies. I make killer fajitas and have received no less than four marriage proposals for my dessert cooking skills.<< Firemist, will you marry me? In case you're wondering, this is coming from myself, woodlark, and deniz. We both want you. Guess you better make that six. -+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+- Lani said: >>It seems, IMMHO, that there're a ~lot~ of musically-inclined folks on this list, and I had an odd thought creep into my cranium the other day... [I'm being ~very~ careful with it - it's in a ~strange~ place! =)]<< I'm sure you've had thoughts in your head before... hmm... :) >>What if, at the DragonCon, we got together and actually tried ~singing~ some of the filksongs? Sort of a 'DraConale'? It might be a lot of fun...I've got one of the songbooks...<< Aaarrrggghh!!!!!! I wish i were going to DragonCon!!!!! I would love to. Somebody fill me in off-list on the details for DragonCon. I'll see how many classes i can afford missing. Now i *really* want to go. -+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+-%-+AT+- Matya said: >>:hello-man-who-wrote-about-me.-you-say-there-are-other-squirrels-here-?-wher e-where-where-?--by-the-way-do-you-have-any-pecans-by-any-chance-?: I don't know about david, but *I* do! Here, have some chocolate covered pecans. If chocolate is bad for squirrels, then it's a fake chocolate that won't kill your digestive system but still taste good (like a squirrel needs the chocolate rush!) |~| _______________________________________________ |~| | |~| free bard woodlark -- dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA |~| | ~| |_______________________________________________| |~ ~ ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:58:18 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Hyde To: Misty Lackey List Subject: Braid: Gods/Tigana/Archives/Songs/fidelity/Leslac/Music/Huh? Message-ID: First off, I am currently trying to put together a list of all of the named deities. Here is a list of the ones I have, currently (If you are not on it, and should be, let me know soon): Arielle, Goddess of Mispellings (named 96/07/03) Catwoman, Goddess of the Impatient (named 96/07/03) Cennydd, God of Karma (named 96/07/03) David Tiffany, God of Typos (named 96/07/03) Diana Heald, Goddess of the Perpetually Tired (named 96/07/03) Fireheart, God of New Homes (named 96/06/18) Glithoniel, Goddess of Tardiness (named 96/07/03) Herald Michal, God of Useless Information and Irellevant Facts (named 96/07/03) Jake, God of Parody and Top-Ten Lists, Avatar of Humor(named 96/06/13) Jerry, God of Goblins, Killer Penguins, and Annoying Magic Items (named 96/07/03) Khenta, Goddess of Incomplete Vocabulary and Garbled Grammar (named 96/07/03) Kimber, Goddess of Eternal Optimism (named 96/07/03) Korendil, God of All Things Nocturnal (named 96/06/25) Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress and Dry Breakfast Cereal (96/06/10) Lady Dessa, Goddess of Laziness (named 96/06/23) Lady Nightshadow, Goddess of Forgiveness (named 96/07/03) Lady Reesa, Queen of Everything (named 96/06/13) Lady Sara, Goddess of the Four Footed Ones (named 96/07/03) Lady Silvermoon, Goddess of (Over)sensitivity (96/06/10) Lady Sofia, Goddess of Music and Song Mat the Cat, God of Procrastination (named 96/07/03) Michael Weber, God of Lurkers (named 96/07/03) Michele, Goddess of Botanical Blight (named 96/07/03) Mistress Mel, ListGoddess (named 96/07/03) Mishi, Goddess of Hyperness and Overbubbliness. Morgana, Goddess of Things Unseen (named 96/07/03) Sandy (Sandra) K Haas, Goddess of Clenched Teeth of Stress(named 96/06/15) Seranna, Goddess of the Wandering Minds (named 96/07/03) Shadow-Lover, Lord of the Dead (named 96/06/16) Stormcloud (aka Jenna), Goddess of Chat Rooms/Obsessions (named 96/07/03) Sylver Dove, Goddess of Dust Bunnies (named 96/07/03) Thess's Ex, God of Useless Trivia Thess's Mom, Goddess of Chocolate Trouble, Goddess of Trouble (named 96/06/18) Vrondi, Mistress of the Air, One with the Trees (named 96/07/03) As you can see, at least one of the requested domains is taken. There is already a God of Lurkers, so I can't Name anyone to that job (unless they are dead, of course, in which case the position is open). I have a list of everyone's requests and I will be doing some follow-ups on the problematic ones, and then doing a nice Naming Ceremony. -----BOM On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Khenta wrote: > Do you know what the single red gloves in Tigana -Catriana wears one > when she's going to that Ambassador from Barbadior- mean? I couldn't > make out any reference. I have no idea. I only read Tigana once (I didn't particularly like it) and that was several years ago when it first came out. I don't remember any other single red gloves that it could be allusive of either. Anyone else, who did like Tigana and has read it more than once? -----EOM/BOM On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Milady Mel of the List wrote: > You've asked, you've begged, now it can be done; those of you who browse > the list archives through the Web will now find that it is a more > pleasurable experience because there are index pages, and stuff split up > by months :) Ah, yes. It is fabulous. Of course, thou didst finish it and install the new version *after* I had been trawling through the archives for some time. One suggestion/question: how hard would it be to set up a tiny little search engine (just a string matching one, for example) that would search the archives? Or is it a case of "it wouldn't be *hard* but it would be costly in terms of computing resources"? -----EOM/BOM On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Tresta wrote: Subject: lifebonded monogomy > I think the same person that wrote about Tale'edras not being monogomous > even in lifebonds used as textev. the the scene in SW when Firesong and > Darkwind are joking in the hot springs, and An'desha is hurt and thinks > FIresong would abandon him for Darkwind. This person (I'm sorry, I > can't remember who :) ) indicated that Darkwind would have considered a > relationship with Firesong, despite being all-but-married to Elspeth. > Now, what Elspeth was trying to do, in that little scene, was assure > An'desha that *no such thing would ever happen*. Darkwind would never > hurt her, and Firesong wouldn't dream of causing hurt to An'desha by > taking another lover. Actually, IIRC, what Elspeth said was that Darkwind wouldn't ever "cheat" on her because he knew that she wouldn't be okay with it. The reason that An'desha was so upset was that he knew enough about Tayledras customs to know that being life-bonded to Elspeth *didn't* mean that Darkwind was "off the market" in Tayledras culture as far as friendly, commitment- free, recreational sex was concerned. Elspeth pointed out that even though the Tayledras were more open in their relationships, *she* wasn't and Darkwind knew that. I will see if I can't find the direct textevd tonight. > What is stated over and over about lifebonds is "not ever wanting anyone > else". Where is this stated? I don't remember it being stated even once, let alone "over and over." > We see this with Talia and Dirk, and Stefen and Vanyel. I can't > think of a lifebonded couple we've seen that was anything *but* > monogomous. I can't imagine Vanyel, Stefen, Talia, Sherril, etc. even > looking at anyone else. Significantly, though, all of those bonds are within cultures that are very like our own in that monogamy is a highly valued "norm" and polyamory is considered either wrong or "not real love." > Nor can imagine it of Amberdrake (this, I think is what > started it.) I don't think he would ever *want* anyone but Winterhart. Really? Amberdrake seems like a normal, healthy (both physically and mentally) human being to me. He is also probably more aware than most of the difference between love and sex. I imagine that he does occasionally desire someone other than Winterhart. Now, whether he ever acts on those desires is another story. After all, Winterhart, like Elspeth was raised in a very restrictive society where monogamy was the only acceptable life-style. BTW, my parents (after 30 years of marriage), who are as deeply in love as anyone, real or fictional, that I have ever seen, have a saying that I have always loved: "I'm married, I'm not dead." It means, that they are in love and committed to each other, but they are still capable of desiring others outside that relationship. They have, however, made a committment to each other to ignore any temptations and remain faithful. That is what marriage is all about. Also, having been in love myself, I can say that it doesn't eliminate extraneous desire. Fortunately my SO was understanding and didn't mind terribly when I strayed, because he knew that whatever else may have been straying it wasn't my heart or my love. I have also broken off relations with a potential bf once, because he couldn't handle the fact that I was attracted to other guys. While I never stepped out on him while we were involved, he still didn't even like the thought that I was attracted and he couldn't believe that it didn't mean I loved him less. I can't help but think that it is too bad he was so caught up in the "carnal fidelity = love" mentality. We might still be together, instead of separate and, in his case, lonely. -----EOM/BOM On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Mishi enthused: > Hey CENNYDD!! ( *squeal* POUNCE *giggle*) Hey MISHI!!!! *POUNCE* "Hello, Rabbit!" =) > Let's see about the songs. I think that I think its called 'Always, > Forever'. you know it goes 'I love you always forever' and 'you've got > the most incredible blue eyes'. I think that that song would be perfect > for when Yfandes Choses Vanyel. The line about the blue eyes is what > made me think about it. Mishi! Really! Just because thou art so bouncy that this song probably sounds slow and dirgelike to thee, is no excuse. =) Seriously, I think "I Love You, Always, Forever" is just a little too upbeat for background music in a storm-wracked, bleak, night-time scene following a series of escalating tragedies, and leading up to Van's suicide attempt. Words or not, it just doesn't fit. Next thing, thou'lt be wanting Van to sing "Walking on Sunshine" (the Kristina and the Waves hit) to Stef in the Kyree caverns as he is healing from the rape. =) Oh well, I suppose thou art just doing thy job, O goddess of Overbubbliness. > Well that and those cute stock boys Cennydd told me about. Do you > realize Cennydd, that you were the one that a was talking with about the > men in white speedos? But of course. =) Although, I think thou said that they actually were mostly wearing blue ones? -----EOM/BOM On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Shadra wrote: > After reading your comment, I began to wonder... Maybe we're not giving > Leslac enough credit. Could it be possible he created such phenomenal > drive on purpose? It certainly earned him a reputation. What if that was > his intent all along? Oh, here's a thought. Maybe we should extend this logic to Misty and the Di Tregarde series? After all, Leslac's work was only drivel if you knew the real stories upon which his songs were based. After all, his songs apparently spread quite a ways and were fairly popular and that is not the sign of a badly crafted song. Similarly, the Di mysteries are only annoying if you know anything about the reality on which they are based (for example, if you are familiar with the real Jenks, or have actually studied Meso-American and Japanese mythoi). The only problem is that while altering the truth about T&K may have made Leslac's songs more interesting and popular, I can't see that Misty's playing fast and loose with the background info in anyway improved the Di books. -----EOM/BOM On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Glithoniel wrote: > clearly but Roland is worried because the princess hasn't been Chosen. > He is the one who takes action to bring Gwena to Valdemar. Actually, the only reference that I can find, off-hand, says that it isn't clear *why* Rolan is worried (AFlight, p. 19). And I never got the feeling that he was "taking action." I got the feeling that he was, at most, assisting with Gwena's arrival, not instigating it. And to be honest, that is only the most liberal reading I can get. My own interpretation is that he is just an observer, caught up in the miracle of Gwena's "birth." -----EOM/BOM On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Emily the Invisble wrote: > is in code, that's why it's so nonsensical). Our idea of music and > song being solely for entertainment is a pretty recent development, > and some people still don't agree with it (like me). The use of music > in the Pern books was really good, cause it had a purpose and it was > realistic for that kind of society (the rest of society wasn't too > realistic, but this isn't the McCaffrey list). I am not sure that I agree with this (the purpose of music thing). I also grew up on folk music and I have studied Music History a bit (back when I was a Music Major) and there is one big problem with this theory that most (or a lot of) music was designed to encode useful instructions and information. To whit, almost none of this music has actually survived. If you look at folk-songs, for example, they aren't about actual historical events; they are mostly fictional. They also doen't generally have instructions for how to do things, or lists of rules, etc. which is what the Pernese teaching ballads were. This is the problem I have always had with "harpers" or "bards" or what-have-you in fantasy and science fiction. I really don't think that they are portrayed realistically. While it is true that wandering troubadors etc. were one of the main sources of news in the Middle Ages, I don't think that it was via their music. I think they just gossiped a lot. Otherwise, I am sure that more of these type of songs would have survived. Similarly, if the kind of instructional songs had existed and been important, it seems to me that they would have been recorded at the same time that the purely entertaining ones were (such as the Childe collection). -----EOM/BOM On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Hades wrote(?): > if I am some kind of totally homicidal maniac (and in case you are > wondering ((which I know you are)) what the difference between a totally > homicidal maniac and a partially homicidal maniac, I just happen to have > the answer....[snip of more stuff] What *was* this? I don't mean for this to sound like a flame, but did anyone here understand what the point of this post was? I read it twice and it was completely incomprehensible both times. All I did get was that Hades apparently has a 70 page manuscript? that he wants to show to a publisher? (Why, I can't imagine, since it can't be complete at that length). I can't help but think that this post may have raised off-topic to an artform, since I can't even tell if it stays on its own topic. =) Oy! May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me **http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html or .../kenny/green.silences.html** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:00:03 -0600 (CST) From: "V. Brockmeier" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: careful who u invite. he might show up/aimed at infodyn Message-ID: About getting published, I've had a couple friends try (and get there). Both the successes went to their local library and checked out a nifty little resource called. . . oh, I *think* the name is The Writer's Resource. It's a list of publishers, addresses, and usually a summary of what they want and their submission guidelines--one of the librarians should know the name for sure just from the description. Find it, type up a form letter that says, here I am, brilliant author, I have this great piece of work, what are your detailed submission guidelines? and send it to anyone and everyone who sounds like they would print your book. Then sacrifice a ballpoint pen and notepad to the Muses or some other deity of creativity (is there one on this list?) and hope. Also, the line "For I have miles to go before I sleep" is I believe from Robert Frost's poem "Stopping by woods on a snowy evening." (now, watch, i've posted this publicly, so of course i'm completely wrong. . . .) Good luck to you and everyone else with publication! --vix ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:27:37 -0600 (CST) From: GRAYMT-+AT+-centum.utulsa.edu To: MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK Subject: mostly heavy fluff, but some good stuff too. Message-ID: <961115152737.22b794e7-+AT+-centum.utulsa.edu> Jake surrendered: >So, in the interest of fairness, 'Reesa, Lee, Dax. . . . I name you ALL >clergy. Go forth and spread humor. Titles matter not. Although I probably >will favor 'Reesa. Just because she brought chocolate syrup! (don't ask. >Please.) So, Ladies... I claim the title of Evangelist of Low Humor and will adminster puns as necessary both as medication and pun-isment! Okay? To Lee and all those who answered correctly: >Oops. The *tutor* was Istal, the Herald was Seldasen. I just remembered. You're right! You've won an all expense paid vacation to virtual Hawaii Where the Surfing is great! And you will be Leied upon arrival *grin* (puns intended, see above) HTH: >The worst are the Unseleigh from the urban fantasy series. They hatch >these demonic plans. Someone says, "Of course, you realize thousands of >humans will die." Someone else says, "Yes, but they're only humans." >Every dang time. It's cheesy and it's absurd and it's predictable and >I'm sick of it. That's why I haven't been able to force myself to read >half of those books. The Unseleigh even show up and ruin what would >otherwise be perfectly good books -- like Bedlam Boyz, which I thought >would have been fabulous as just the story of a healer trying to cope >through a gang war, but there had to be cheesy Evil Elves in the >bargain. (I know Misty didn't write that one, but I assume she approved >it; I can't imagine that she wouldn't have. And she made up the cheesy >Evil Elves.) HTH, ow, you have stepped upon my toes! The Evil Elves are Supposed to be uncreative...it says so right in CC. And anyway, I think they are supposed to be the expression of True Evil which is different than ordinary evil. Because True Evil is adept at taking the Good and restating it a half shade off... (Carrach buts in..) I disagree, I think the Cheesy Evil Elves haven't the creativity to emulate any True Evil or even close. I think they just copy stereotype pattern of simplistic Mortal evil and do it on a nuclear missile level of magnitude because they are Elves after all. Of course, I really don't mind villians like that. It doesn't tax my imagination to figure out how to thwart them! (Dax returns..) And is the statement of the doom of humanity any different than the 2x4 statement? Perhaps a trademark? Like Arnold's "I'll be back"? (Carrach threatens with large-bladed sword...and I flee for help) (Liar! Foul Varlet! MEANIE!) Thank you for all of the birthday wishes dear folk. I spent my birthday writing an appellate argument brief (NOT an accurately descriptive word) down amongst the volumes of a la library. The tomes therein wern't even dusty and so lacked in character.... Still, the argument that I get to make before a panel of lawyers-acting-as-judges types tomorrow (the oral half of the process but I don't get graded on that part) is of the kind of arguments that could be vital to really helping some deserving person someday get their fair due. I could, also, easily use it to garner undeserved wealth/power for an unscrupulous person (incl. myself) and so that version of thought concerning two edged swords, and our innate responsibility for the level of destruction we make ourselves capable of is very clear in my thoughts. I believe, fervently, however, that no person or lawyer no matter how erudite, can forever elude some of the intrinsic laws of our multiverse. I get a great deal of comfort from this. Three times three always returns to thee.. sooner or later. Various other expressions of this sort of law also hit the same point. Sorry, folks, just my scorpio side taking a brief breath before reemersion in the depths of the old primordial subconscious..... My favorite flowers, by the way, are the white rose (which is evocative of the good aspects of purity to me) and a field flower often found in hedges as well called Queen Anne's Lace. I never really played as much with other kids when I was little as wander by myself through fields and meadows, seeing rows of new growing things, playing with the corn left over after the harvest, playing at hiding in the foliage, testing myself against whatever new challenge weather, man, good old mother nature presented. Trees to climb (tall poplars with thin branches!), explosives made from shotgun shells...testing the ways of destruction, once, when I was seven or eight I killed a water moccassin near our garden with a rake so it couldn't hurt my little brothers, and I can remember finding little critters (groundhogs, squirrels, rabbits, and such) who's mothers were killed by something or someone and taking them home to try to take care of...and it sometimes even worked. Any way, for parts of the year (I love the fall I was born for misty overcast days and wet green stuff all around) Queen Anne's Lace was always there, big huge looking flowers, that were really thousands of little flowers it seemed. Like we are sometimes seen by ourselves and others as one recognizable entity, but if we were to look closer, maybe we are made of a million memories, ours and of those before us, which form an us like a picture made of dots..... maybe. Nuff. Love, hugs and kisses to all of ye Folk. (Yes I mean everybody). ;) As for me, perhaps I am but a dreamer of childs dreams...but I often only want a villian to do one thing... be there being bad so the hero can have some reason to be extra good. Can lead to all sorts of problems with a limited world view I know.... but there it is. Maybe I am too close to my own capacity for real evil.... and when I stand on the brim of that canyon it is a serious time. I used to need books to see the good in the worlds.... now I have My Tiffanie Dax and 5 sweet little faithful I'll always love you generators.... still, I could revel in the dark all to easily. STILL, I am an avid proponent of the really full villian.... I have to admit that Misty's characters don't really get very deep into the things I could see the seeds for within myself.... I think we probably need the villian archtypes to work with as well as the hero(ine) ones as well. Without them.... dangerous cripples perhaps. One nice thing about being made of a million memories...... I can always find at least one which shows me how I and anyone else I meet are alike...and gives me a common ground from which to be of use to that person, and maybe even understand them a little. I am working on a herald persona for QO. I am an aggressive, even combative type I know.... but maybe enough of the little memories are of sweet things and love and acceptance and forgiveness.... that I could manage. Yesh! I wrote a book again. SORRY. Skim it or nix it at yer pleasure maties! Carrach waiting with patience and feral guile and a smile to be (Deity of Mediation, Alternative Dispute Resolution, reserving the right to resort to large heavy cutting and smashing things...) (be Nice......until it is time Not to be Nice....) Cennyd, Avatar of Nomenclature, Greetings and Salutations! I do most Humbly petition Thee in the Bounty of Thy most Noble Grace to Grant my Request and to Determine Thy Servant's Case Favorably from within the resort of Thy most Able and Judicial Wisdom, such Request being hereinafter Elucidated, and Dispense and Bequeath to Thy most Grateful Servant, before this Assembled Host, and before the Exalted Eyes of This great pantheon's Dieties and well beloved Gentle Folk, Diefication as the Diety of Mediation and Alternative Dispute Resolution Methods including Recourse to application of Large Cutting, Smashing, and otherwise Mass Damaging things. For Which Grant Thy Servant doth Stand Forth before those same Eyes and Declare that He shall Uphold the Lofty Services incumbent upon and incident to that Office with all the Honour which has been Bequeathed to Thy Servant, and Yea, doth stand Ready to Prove the Truth of These Claims, Through careful consideration and Service to those Disputes brought before Thy Servant, Through any Means, Judicial, Advisory, or other Desirable Method, and Yea, even Through Recourse to Arms should so Terrible and Unhappy Recourse be Required of Thy Servant, that Thy Glory, the Glory of Those Personages Whom Thy Servant Humbly Petitions to be placed amongst, and the Glory of the Assembled Host, shall Forever be Increased, and Made to Swell, even as the Heart of Thy Servant doth Swell at the Opportunity to Serve Thee and Those assembled in such Capacity as Thy Servant herein doth Request. May it Please Thee O Avatar of Nomenclature and Most Noble Cennyd to Grant such Request, Thy Servant doth beg, Humbly, With Recourse to Much accumulated good Karma in Thy Servants Favor and In Reverence to Thine Own Most Grand and Wise Office. Forever Yours, In Service and in Well Meant Deed, Carrach (Dax returns with unicorns with sharpened horns and Elves with sleep poisoned arrows) Quick, use a net! Got him? Great, drag him off and lock him back up with the Tomes! Who was supposed to be on watch? Ah, now where was I? Deniz I emote with you about sharing a keyboard. (Its MY Account! Oops. This is known as a Positional stance in negotiations and is associated with the unmoving and curmudgeonly and greedy..... Oh Dearest Dax. I am honoured to lend you my account. In fact, let us consider it OUR account... and in return, I only ask the smallest of trifles... please do not malign me, your dearest and beloved RIGHT AFTER I MAKE AN IMPASSIONED PLEA OK?!!!!!...... Thank you my little violet..... (benign smile......)) Aak! use more sleep poison I said! Kory! Help! OOH I love Legend, how could I not? It's about elves and Unicorns! Todays Mistrivia: What are the ingredients in Vanyel's Miracle cream and how many times is it mentioned? (Don't cheat) Dax the Eternal, Lady of the Unicorns Soon to be Goddess of Elves and Equines Proud Evangelist of Low Humor (Low Humor.... That's Like the good Humor truck, only on roller skates and sells ( things We ought not ingest instead isn't it Dax? heh heh heh.) He escaped again! If ya want something done, ya do it yourself... "The Lion beat the Unicorn all around the town" - Anon (Hey! I'll offer to mediate! Really! ....ok did he use gloves or swords or maces, or spears. or.. Ha! Got him...hit him with a Constitutional Law book! (Wails of the damned ensue) ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 951 *********************************