MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 979

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Pern/injured Companions/1st ML/enough/Jake - we need you!
	by DawnRain <dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com>
  2) attempt at braid about many things...
	by DawnRain <dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com>
  3) Jane Austen/Eric Banyon/shaych women
	by "Hth." <R618-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
  4) Totally Off-topic: Public Apology
	by ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
  5) bilines/"bi"te me!/belly buttons/books/-blinded/belief
	by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
  6) Re/oathblinded
	by lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis)
  7) Re:Shaych Books
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  8) Reply to: Cover Art
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  9) Re: Jane Austen/Eric Banyon/shaych women
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
 10) Re:adresses
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
 11) Reply to: oathblinded
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
 12) Re: Reply to: Cover Art
	by MTimmer430-+AT+-aol.com
 13) Re:adresses
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
 14) Re: bi-stuff, and a little explanation
	by "Cara S. Smith" <nitebird-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net>
 15) Happy Holiday/Fluff/obmisty
	by BudLor-+AT+-aol.com
 16) Brvaes Enters the Realm of Queen Attrib
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 17) Re:Happy Holiday/Fluff/obmisty
	by Jeff Pugh <pgpugh-+AT+-inter-linc.com>
 18) Re: Brvaes Enters the Realm of Queen Attrib
	by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:35:14 -0700
From: DawnRain <dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Pern/injured Companions/1st ML/enough/Jake - we need you!
Message-ID: <3296A932.193A-+AT+-geocities.com>

JAIME HATHAWAY wrote:

> > We also never hear of a Companion surviving it's Herald's death. Only
> > what Sayvil/Savil says to Van when he's first chosen.
> 
> I think a Companion can survive its herald's death, cause doesn't
> Fandes tell van that if he dies she will avenge his death before she
> comes to him?
> Jacquelle

Again, special circumstances and she was only refraining from dying with
him long enough to see him avenged.  Also, Companions usually live long
enough to say their farewells, Yfandes said as much in Oh gosh, which
was it, Mprice or promise??  Um.  Well.  I guess I won't find the
textevd now, but I'll try to find it later, but it was when one of the
Herald-Mages died and the Companion was found dead in a corner of the
Field.

Also, there is another special circumstance of Companion outliving
Herald--The Monarch's Own Companion will chose another, IIRC.

Star

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 01:48:49 -0700
From: DawnRain <dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: attempt at braid about many things...
Message-ID: <3296BA71.142E-+AT+-geocities.com>

I have had a Thought!  Could Korendil count as bi?  He seems to have no
qualms either way, being attracted to both Eric and Beth...  So there's
a yesnomaybe for ya'!
As far as any personal preference goes, I am straight but have no
problem w/gay or bi as long as no one has a problem with my being
straight.  I like to know who's dating whom...  but that's just nosy
curiosity on my part, and I know it!<grin>
I too would like to see more written on bi.  A bi relationship or a bi
trying to find one or...  well...  whatever, it would be an interesting
read.

If I can find something to say, something to reply to, or something,
this will be an attempt at a braid.  Note that I carefully said
attempt--it's fairly late and my brain isn't working at all well. ;)

Lotza people have been talking about MZB and Anne McCaffrey, and I have
to say that while I love McCaffrey books, I never really got into MZB. 
<shrug>  I think that I'll try again w/a different book and see if I
have better luck now, I tend to like different books at different times.

Someone else(apologies for not remembering names...and I don't have it
to hand to quote from) asked about the first Misty book we read.  Mine
was Magic's Pawn, reccommended to me by someone I met in a bookstore who
told me it was a really good book if I didn't mind, and I quote, "The
main character is gay".  I loved the book, loaned it to my
then-boyfriend-now-fiance who loved it as well, and kept reading...

To join the discussion of spending my life's savins in a bookstore, I
admit to being guilty of the habit...  Although the last time I went in,
I only *ordered* a book rather than bought it.

Ok, well, it isn't MUCH of a braid, just joining in ongoing discussions
and not quoting anyone or anything neat like that but I think that I
will try braiding more in the future now that I kinda have a few ideas
for how I can go about it!

Laters, all
Star



-- 
Kris Bailey--Aka MorningStar, NightFire, DawnRain, and names too
darn numerous to include in this list.  E-mail-- morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com
dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com bv165-+AT+-freenet.uchsc.edu kris.bailey-+AT+-sdoct.com
dawnrain00-+AT+-aol.com

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Date:        Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:46:52 CST
From: "Hth." <R618-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Jane Austen/Eric Banyon/shaych women
Message-ID:  <23NOV96.06243895.0067.MUSIC-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>

NightShade, chill, hm?  Kory was *joking,* it should be *obvious* that
any semi-literate cretin is aware that *people have bloody well heard of
Jane Austen.* And Kory is certainly not a semi-literate cretin.  (BTW,
your "I can understand how *you* wouldn't have heard of her" comment
was, shall we say, unnecessary.  At best.)  His downplaying of Austen's
reputation was a lighthearted response to someone's slightly sheltered
query as to whether the movie Sense & Sensibility had been based on a
book.  Get it?  Ha ha?  Well, *I* understood you, Kory.

I didn't get the feeling that Eric Banyon was just realizing his own
bisexuality.  I got the feeling that he was a straight guy who just
happened to be in love with a supernaturally good-looking man.  My point
was that with both he and An'desha, it isn't *men* they want, per se,
it's *one particular man.* I was just rather suspiciously wondering if
Misty used that as a kind of "excuse" for their behavior -- i.e. not
having the common decency to pick a gender and stay put.  Maybe nothing
of the sort was intended.

Hmmm, there's a thought. You know something?  Maybe I *will* write a
book with sexy gay women in it.  It's an idea worth considering.... <g>

Target date for my first book?  'Bout three years -- one to finish it,
one to find a publisher, one for production.  Realistic target date?
Who the heck knows?


HTH
Wand-Sworn Champion to the Ladies of the Pink Wand
Grand Dame of the Order of Amber and Marigold
r618-+AT+-academic.truman.edu

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:42:10 -0500
From: ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Totally Off-topic: Public Apology
Message-ID: <961123104210_1519314275-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com>

Having recieved a couple replies to my . . . hmm . . . hysterical
overreaction? I am going to say publicly: I'm sorry! Jeez, can't a person
make a mistake? I'm quite sure that others on this list have overreacted to
joking posts in the not so distant past . . . Actually, I know that for a
fact. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I overreacted, and I apologized for
it, could we stop rubbing my face in it now please? What, are we going to do,
hang up a neon sign: NightShade Overreacted To Kory's Joke, Isn't *She*
Stupid! Now that we all know that, could we please shut up and move on?
Sheesh, I'm going to need a bodyguard soon, for those occations when I just
can't keep my bloody -+AT+-#*$! mouth shut!

NightShade 

OIB, LotPW, High Priestess Of All Things Nocturnal, & Knight Of The OAM

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 11:08:42 -0500
From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: bilines/"bi"te me!/belly buttons/books/-blinded/belief
Message-ID: <199611231640.LAA06653-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA>

Heather said a lot of great stuff in "bi bi birdie."

What she said.

Cara said (after some comments on the ambiguity of life):
>>>Thank you both for listening!<<<

Both?  I think more than just two people are interested in what you have to 
say.

Actually, there's this scale (I don't remember its name) that measures how gay 
or straight you are.  The distribution on this is like the bell curve, so that 
there are actually very few absolutely completely gay or straight people, 
whereas most people are somewhere in-between.  Somebody help me out, here?  
I've only heard of this thing through the grape vine.

Nightshade encouraged me to expound away on my gripes concerning biphobia.  I 
think a lot of it was covered in Heather's essays (strong as ever, 
girlfriend), but if I happen to find something that she <gasp of horror> 
missed, I won't hesitate to put it out here.  I do wish profoundly that Misty 
would tackle it.

Star said:
>>>I have had a Thought!  Could Korendil count as bi?  He seems to have no
qualms either way, being attracted to both Eric and Beth...  So there's
a yesnomaybe for ya'!<<<

The problem with holding Kory up as an example of being bi is that the 
sceptical reader will say, "Yeah, well he's not even human!"  However, if this 
same reader is thinking that elves are soulless, and that shows that only 
rutting animals are queer or some fuzzy logic along those lines, I don't know 
how they managed to make it all the way through any Misty books without a 
significant change to their outlook.

Heather said:
>>>I was just rather suspiciously wondering if Misty used that as a kind of 
"excuse" for their behavior -- i.e. not having the common decency to pick a 
gender and stay put.  Maybe nothing of the sort was intended.<<<

And, of course, my reaction would be "why is it "common decency" to pick one 
gender and stay put?"  Hopefully enough people saw this sentence the way I 
did, and said "Commen sense isn't," to themselves, and started wondering even 
more why Misty hasn't attacked this "common decency" and shown that one 
doesn't *have* to pick one and stay put.

>>>Hmmm, there's a thought. You know something?  Maybe I *will* write a
book with sexy gay women in it.  It's an idea worth considering.... <g><<<

CONSIDER, please?  In fact, do more than consider.  I'm very interested, and 
would actually pay the $30 CA for a hardback book of yours.  Especially if it 
were autographed... :)

:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~

I've noticed quite a few people saying things like, "I've never known any 
queer people before."  At first, my reaction has been, "That's hard to 
believe, we're all over the place, and it's hard to be that well closeted."  
Then, I thought back to where I grew up, and realized that's not necessarily 
true.

SAPPY PERSONAL STORY WARNING

The town I grew up in (in Saudi Arabia) is pretty conservative, and a lot of 
people are ultra-fundamentalist-Christian in response to the repression from 
the government (heck, we've got a few born-agains).  It's also a very small 
town, 500 people?, and everyone knows everyone.  All I knew was that "gay" was 
for guys and "lesbian" was for girls, and these were insults.  Then, when I 
came to boarding school in the States, Winter gave me the LHM books to read.  
I read those, and at first, I was saying, "People can feel that?  I never 
thought of that at all."  Of course, due to the way Misty handled it, I didn't 
come away believing being queer was evil.  Of course, when one of my friends 
then told me she was shaych, I realized it happened in real life, too, and 
actually started questioning my own sexuality.  I would join in on the 
discussion about reactions to coming out, and so on, but I'm still closeted 
where it counts (family).  I don't try to change my personality or anything, 
and if someone asks if I have any boyfriends, I'm as likely to say, "No.  No 
girlfriends, either."  If someone asks me point-blank, I won't lie.  But I 
don't go out of my way to say anything.  But then again, I don't think my 
natural personality is something that stands out and screams, "Gangway!  Queer 
woman comin' through!"  If you actually made your way through that 
muddle-headed statement, I'm impressesed.

:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~
Sandy said:
>>>Now, I know that when Deniz wrote the following she was talking about
personality types, but I laughed right out loud.  I think our next
discussion should be about belly buttons :)<<<

LOL.  Real cute.  So, what do you think about Savil?

:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~
Firemist said:
>>>Is the next one she's doing with Misty called _Return to Darkover_?<<<

Hai.  As far as I remember.  I just found that MZB collection that had the Di 
at the Writers' Con. story, and MZB mentioned it in the blurb about Misty.

Kory said:
>>>deniz said:
>When was it out in the States?  In Canada, it's still in hardback.

Um, I think it came out when SB came out in hb.<<<

Dang, then I've still got a while to wait, eh?  I think that when SB comes 
out, I'm gonna go to the bookstore everyday for an hour or so and read the 
whole damn thing!

>>>There, deniz. A whole braid with attribs;><<<

I'm forever grateful.  Or at least will be as long as you keep it up.  I'm 
sure I'm not the only one who was glad to be able to trace who said what 
throughout the whole thing.

Erika Plajer said:
>>>   Aha! Here I can help. There is one book, I do not remember the author,
but the title I believe is _Fires of Agar_, or somesuch like that. I read
it a year ago, and I liked it... the entire story is basically about
shaych females. I picked it up to read because it had a wolf on the
cover. :) But it really is a good book.<<<

Agar?  As in the stuff that reeks like chicken that you cultivate bacteria on? 
 AAAAAaaaaaggggghhhhh!!!!!  Run away!!!!!

Actually, if I find it, I'll give it a whirl.  Sounds interesting.  Here's one 
suggestion I have to add to the slowly growing list.  There's a collection of 
sci fi stories with queer characters out, called _Worlds Apart_.  You know, I 
still haven't finished it ('cause I kept lending it out) but what I read was 
really funky.  Ask Winter about it. ;>

Star said:
>>>Lotza people have been talking about MZB and Anne McCaffrey, and I have
to say that while I love McCaffrey books, I never really got into MZB. 
<shrug>  I think that I'll try again w/a different book and see if I
have better luck now, I tend to like different books at different times.<<<

You know, I've never really been able to get into the Darkover books.  I've 
read something with Hammerfell in the title, the one with the Amazon 
Priestesses, and Landing?, but I never could make it through Sharra's Exile, 
and am completely lost on where to start.  "...Help angels, make assay."  
(Where does that come from?)

While we're on the subject of literature (when aren't we?), how many people 
here are into poetry?  Are you interested in forming a writing group?

:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~
Jake said:
>>>*dusting off FAQ ADMINISTRATOR beanie with spiffy winged propeller.* Let me
just put this on and say it to the list at large --

=======================================================
THE SKINNY ON OATHBLINDED
=======================================================<<<

Jake, it was really hard to pay attention to what you were saying when there 
was this pattern of sheep jumping a fence all the way around your beanie.  Can 
I borrow it at some point in time?

:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~
Mat the Cat in Green said:
>>>Mat
(in AOexiLe)<<<

To you, my God in Agonies Of exiLe, I offer a fresh procrastination of 
studying for my finals which start in a week.  Hey, I've got a week, right?

Jacquelle said:
>>>...all the bad procrastionation<<<

Who is thine God, that thou feelst moved to name my God and my livelihood as 
"bad"?  Thou needst ever be mindful there is "no one true way."

love,
deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |But she had the trick of making a little
of Procrastination, Holy Custo-|island right in the middle of time, and of
dian of the B-Day List, and    |your knowing, which is what time does to
Dame of Amber and Marigold.    |you.    --   Robert Penn Warren
                 dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:56:11 EST
From: lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re/oathblinded
Message-ID: <19961123.115757.10606.0.Lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com>

On the 21 Lady Becky wrote
<<<<:Yaaaaaaaay! I just got Oathblinded today! I finally get to read it!
:)
Wooohooo!! And no, no one can borrow it, it's mine all mine!! :) <g>
*lol*
Aren't you all jealous?? <g>>>>>
	What is Oathblinded may I ask?  Have I missed something really
important?  Did I miss a Misty <panicked expression bordering on
psycho-ism>

I'd also like to thank Firemist for explaining the Tashir/Tashira thing. 
It makes it a *whole* lot easier to undetstand.

The best way *I* could think of for topping Van would be in some yummy
dark chocolate.  <wipes off drool from mouth.>

Lightstorm, Lady of the Pink Wand, Dame of the Order of Amber and
Marigold
"Thought is barred in this City of Dreadful Joy and conversation is
unknown."-
Aldus Huxley


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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:22:25 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: Re:Shaych Books
Message-ID: <199611231322_MC1-C4D-1D01-+AT+-compuserve.com>

The trigger happy delete key finger strikes again!

someone said in response to Heather:
>Now that I think about it, you're right. I have yet to see a single book
>devoted to shaych females that is as open about their sexuality as the 
>books women writers write about shaych men.  

Having only Misty's books to go by (sheeps away from Heather - i'll read
swordspoint! I promise!) I would have to say that Camilla's relationship with
Magda and Jaelle ... hmmm... I was under the impression that they were all
shaych, but Magda and Jaelle both married Peter ... but the Magda and 
Jaelle became freemates... AGH I'm in Thendara House Hell Somebody help
me! I'm meeeellllting <g> Well, anyway, my point was going to be that MZB
did deal with shaych females like Misty deals with shaych males, but now
I am utterly confuzzled and have no idea what I'm blabbing about. 

feeling contrite, I dole out chocolate mousse to everyone who put up with
this post (for those of you who don't like chocolate, there are peanut
butter cookies in the oven. if you don't like either than you must be insane
=)

Firemist, Goddess of Made From Scratch Foods
 

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:27:21 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: Reply to: Cover Art
Message-ID: <199611231327_MC1-C59-4B9B-+AT+-compuserve.com>


Mat wrote:
 >Firemist wrote:
 > And I will reiterate my profound desire to see Whelan do Misty <er, do
 > Misty Cover Art. not 'do' misty. oh bother!>
 
 > Nightshade responded:
 ><g> I am *not* going to say it, not one word . . . I . . . Will . . . Resist
 >. . . oh, heck with it! I'll say it anyway. Eeeewwwww!!!!!!!! <g> Sorry,
 >'mist, couldn't help it <shrugs, then grins>.
 
>Mat replied
><blink> You don't like Whelan's art NightShade?  <blink*2>  What's wrong
>with him?  We know that the complaints against Sweet are valid, but
> Whelan?

Mat, dear, I think she was referring to the image of Whelan 'doing' Misty with
sexual connotations <g> Not to mention what Larry would do. Or say. Or
draw .... <smyrk>

BTW, The only way a person couldn't like Whelan's stuff is if they are legally 
blind and have no vision aides at all <that's IMO, of course>

Firemist

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:14:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Jane Austen/Eric Banyon/shaych women
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.961123103602.16092A-100000-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Jake wrote:

> That one person is Lady Becky, who gets four days of no one laughing at her
> jokes for confusing newbies again! *giggle*


        Ahhhhhh, no fair! I really tried not to, but I *just* couldn't
help it :) It's okay, my jokes aren't funny anyways, so there <g> :)

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On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Hth. wrote:
> His downplaying of Austen's
> reputation was a lighthearted response to someone's slightly sheltered
> query as to whether the movie Sense & Sensibility had been based on a
> book.  

	That slightly sheltered person being me, thank you for the 
delicate way you put that Heather :) I personally would have used 
imbecile <g> Actually, I understood Kory was being sarcastic, even 
slightly sheltered me has heard of Jane Austen, I just wasn't sure where 
that movie came from, it seemed to be based on a book, and thinking about 
it now, seems in Austen's style. I'm really not an idiot!!!!!<--hee hee :)
<stepping up to the soapbox (mine's blue!) and hoping not to fall off>

	Okay I realize I'm probably going to sound like a repeating 
record here, (or possibly my mother) but this is just one more example of 
jumping to conclusions and assuming things about what people thought was 
said. You'll notice please, that Kory had a  ;> (I think, or some smilie) 
at the end of the little hack writer sentence. That generally implies 
that someone is joking, kidding, laughing, lighthearted, or sarcastic 
when they "say" it. Please everyone, let's keep our tempers here, please 
don't flame peole before you find out what it is really going on. Before 
you flame anyone, send a quick note saying, is this really what you 
meant? If they say yes, then flame away to your heart's content, *but* do 
it privately!!!!!!(<--oooh, look, there's 6! :)) There is no reason to 
flame a person on the list. The only reason it has is to humiliate and 
belittle the person, and that's not very nice. And sending them a big 
nasty flame with a sentence at the end which says if that's not what you 
meant, then I'm sorry, isn't very polite either. It only takes a 
fewminutes, but just ask the person what they really meant. Please?
</soapbox, whew! I didn't fall off!>

****************************

	Okie dokie, that's it, notice I braided? Pretty fancy eh? Good 
afternoon to everyone, and have a nice day!


*--------------------Lady Becky of the Hills--------------------*
|Goddess of Tofu and Dry Breakfast Cereals                      |
|Handmaiden of Procrastination                                  |
|Lady in Green                                                  |
|Founder of the AftPoSWT (confused? Just ask.)                  |
|Mailing List Homepage http://www.psnw.com/~deb/becky/misty.html|
|beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.com                                           |
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:37:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:adresses
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.961123113451.16161E-100000-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>

On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> And of course, I'll want yours, so I can send you one : ). 
> 
Becky Christensen
5167 E. Townsend
Fresno, CA 93727


Oh yeah, and just a quick question that I feel kinda silly asking, what's 
your real name, it might confuse whoever you live with (if anyone) to get 
something adressed to ShadowJaz, or Nightshade. I have the feeling I know 
this, isn't it Melissa, or amI going crazy?



*--------------------Lady Becky of the Hills--------------------*
|Goddess of Tofu and Dry Breakfast Cereals                      |
|Handmaiden of Procrastination                                  |
|Lady in Green                                                  |
|Founder of the AftPoSWT (confused? Just ask.)                  |
|Mailing List Homepage http://www.psnw.com/~deb/becky/misty.html|
|beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.com                                           |
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:26:20 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: Reply to: oathblinded
Message-ID: <199611231426_MC1-C53-7A00-+AT+-compuserve.com>

>What is Oathblinded may I ask?  Have I missed something really
>important?  Did I miss a Misty <panicked expression bordering on
>psycho-ism>

Well, Oathblinded is the sequel to Oathbifocused and... <g> sorry. I'll
just assume that you sent that before reading Jake's post on there being no 
such thing as OathBlinded <g> It's one of the imaginary books that got
written on this list at one point in time or another... along with the book
that features Skiff <with 2 f's> <skif reincarntaed as a boat, wasn't it? I missed
out on that one> It belongs right next Magic's Pupil, Magic's Paradox,
Magic's Passion, Magic's Pink-n Purple Porno Palace of Proverbial Pleasures,
and some others too. . .

I think Jake has records of all these <g> Jake, I want you to know that
I am womanfully restraining myself from the 'B' word. Must.... resist....
<sheer genius, Jake! we are not worthy>

Firemist

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:37:53 -0500
From: MTimmer430-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reply to: Cover Art
Message-ID: <961123143752_1683249435-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 96-11-23 13:45:20 EST, Firemist wrote:

<< 
 Mat, dear, I think she was referring to the image of Whelan 'doing' Misty
with
 sexual connotations <g> Not to mention what Larry would do. Or say. Or
 draw .... <smyrk>
>>

Woops.  I totally missed that one.  <g>

<<
 BTW, The only way a person couldn't like Whelan's stuff is if they are
legally 
 blind and have no vision aides at all <that's IMO, of course>
 >>

Nod.   <g>

Mat
(almost out of AOexiLe)

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:05:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:adresses
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.961123120321.16161H-100000-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>



	DOH! I'm sorry about that last post, I thought I sent it private, 
sorry!!! I offer each of you a gold plated cereal bowl, and breakfast in 
bed. Sorry!!!!!


*--------------------Lady Becky of the Hills--------------------*
|Goddess of Tofu and Dry Breakfast Cereals                      |
|Handmaiden of Procrastination                                  |
|Lady in Green                                                  |
|Founder of the AftPoSWT (confused? Just ask.)                  |
|Mailing List Homepage http://www.psnw.com/~deb/becky/misty.html|
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:07:28 -0500
From: "Cara S. Smith" <nitebird-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: bi-stuff, and a little explanation
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961123200728.006b12d8-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net>

deniz wrote:
>Cara said (after some comments on the ambiguity of life):
>>>>Thank you both for listening!<<<
>
>Both?  I think more than just two people are interested in what you have to 
>say.

Sorry, dears (I call everyone dear).. was joking.  Twas my feeble attempt at
humor, I forget sometimes people don't automatically understand what I'm
saying.  (I REALLY gotta start using smilies.. eventually.. one of these
years)  Anyway, that is a sign off for one of my favorite DJ's in No. VA...
(I'm in So. VA now).  I always liked it..

Ok.. So I'm starting the Velgarth books again.  Just curious, do people when
they re-read, do they re-read in Velgarth chronological order?  Or in
publishing date order?  Or do they just kinda pick up and read what they
feel like?  I just have this thing for series (I don't like single book
stories.. unless the book is REALLY long), and attempt to re-read them in
chronological order of the universe they are set in, rather than publishing
order.  Other people have looked at me funny when I say that.. but then most
people look at me funny when I tell them I re-read.  "Why bother?  You know
who the book will end."  Kind of comments.  Ok, so I'm starting to babble, I
do that occasionally, (well more than occasionally, bear with me) and I try
to stop it before it begins, but it doesn't always work..

Thank you both for listening! ;P (see?  put one in there this time!!)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Cara Smith
nitebird-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net
Relina, Queen of Teyle
Riana, journeywoman Woodcrafter
M'ril, rider of brown Liamith

http://www.geocities.com/area51/5777


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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 17:47:00 -0500
From: BudLor-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Happy Holiday/Fluff/obmisty
Message-ID: <961123174700_1917304059-+AT+-emout06.mail.aol.com>

To everyone----------Happy Thanksgiving---please enjoy yourselves at the
dinner table, don't worry about getting the dishes done right away, and have
lots of good conversations.  (Those that don't celebrate---enjoy the day
off--put your feet up and relax for a while!)

                 If you are traveling, please drive safely (both ways)
..
I, for the first time in years (!), am NOT cooking--am taking youngest
daughter to
Tarrytown, NY for the Eastern Regional Irish Step Dancing Competition--will
eat our
dinner at the "world-famous" (?) Roscoe Diner, in Roscoe, NY.  Wish us (esp.
Molly) luck! 

               Those of you that are students, if you're having
mid-terms--GOOD LUCK!


obmisty(My first--go easy on me)-----It's been a while since I've read the
Valdemar books--but I don't really recall any holidays mentioned---other than
Sowan, for remembrance, soooooo--do they or don't they have holidays ?  And,
if they do---what
were they?
           

                                                Lorraine
                        Almost-Goddess of Domesticity/Laundry



But I'm not dead yet!
       MP/Holy Grail  

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 18:03:44 -0500
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: "Misty List" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Brvaes Enters the Realm of Queen Attrib
Message-ID: <9611232309.AA25468-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

Dawnrain said:
>I have had a Thought!  Could Korendil count as bi?  He seems to have no
>qualms either way, being attracted to both Eric and Beth...  So there's
>a yesnomaybe for ya'!

"attracted?" I thought it was slightly more than "attracted." IMO, the 
<mockTreesaMode:ON> Californian Elven Culture <mockTreesaMode: OFF> is 
pretty much like the tayledras (except less exotic. WHen you borrow from 
everyone, it's hard to be, since everyone wouild see *something* 
familiar, usually, right?), in this respect. So to him, loving someone 
for who they ARE, and not for what sex they are, is what's important. 
(Mwehehhe...used incorrect grammar;> someone and they;> I'm happy.) I say 
he's equally in love with Eric and Beth, 'cept they toned it down in book 
2. 

Becky Wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Jake wrote:
>
>> That one person is Lady Becky, who gets four days of no one laughing at her
>> jokes for confusing newbies again! *giggle*
>
>
>        Ahhhhhh, no fair! I really tried not to, but I *just* couldn't
>help it :) It's okay, my jokes aren't funny anyways, so there <g> :)

And anyway, Jake, I did it a lot too. I even got a newbie privy mailing 
me wanting to know when oathbifocused and oathblinded came out;> It's 
fun;> I sent them that parody of Gyr's old sig that I made; the one about 
B*ppy says one of the things He believes in is Trolling.;> Long Live the 
List Herald Mime! That List was a typo, but I like it. THe Last Herald 
Mime is dead! Long Live the List Herald Mime! bwehehehe--hey..I didn't 
say his NAME, you know..

Becky understood:
> Actually, I understood Kory was being sarcastic

Wow...you mean SOMEONE did? And it was actually the person I was writing 
it to? Amazing;>

>this is just one more example of 
>jumping to conclusions and assuming things about what people thought was 
>said. You'll notice please, that Kory had a  ;> (I think, or some smilie) 
>at the end of the little hack writer sentence.

:>'s a smirk, actually. A winking smirk. I guess it's too small for 
people to see. Or everyone's gotten used to me putting one after almost 
every sentence, even if it isn't funny;> See, look? Ok..I'll stop...And 
anyway, at least the most severe of the "flamers" (and the only one I was 
really shocked at) apologized...

Cara asked:
>Ok.. So I'm starting the Velgarth books again.  Just curious, do people when
>they re-read, do they re-read in Velgarth chronological order?  Or in
>publishing date order?  Or do they just kinda pick up and read what they
>feel like?

Well, I just reread what I'm in the mood to reread. So every once in 
awhile I'll go pick up Pawn, or BTS, or Storm Warning, and reread. 
STrangely enough, those are the only ones I really do very often...well, 
AotQ and AFall, too. That's the just Velgarth ones. OTOH, I've never 
reread any MWars, Oathbreakers (though Oathbound and Oathcensored(NC:17 
edition) are recurring favorites), or others which I can't remember.

Heather(What She Said) made sue I knew:
>well, *I* understood you, Kory.

Wow. Two whole people. Which negates the two who didn't. I'm happy;> 
(see, guys? A SMIRK!;)

>Target date for my first book?  'Bout three years -- one to finish it,
>one to find a publisher, one for production.  Realistic target date?
>Who the heck knows?

Realistic, prolly, but not FUN:( well...we'll wait....and when it comes 
out, eagerly devour it and buy lotsa copies for friends so you can have a 
bestseller;>

Deniz scared us oldies by mentioning;> (a SMIRK. I WASN'T SERIOUS) :
>Actually, there's this scale (I don't remember its name) that measures how 
>gay 
>or straight you are.

Oh gods. Not this. Sigh...guess it fits into the Statute of Limitations 
On Bloody OverWorked Subjects, but still....I was never involved closely 
in this, what was it? Kinnesey, or something?

>And, of course, my reaction would be "why is it "common decency" to pick one 
>gender and stay put?"

Um..I think Heather meant this in a sort of sarcastic manner...since 
she's one of us WANTING  abook about a truly bi character, she wouldn't 
say it showing her mindset. The idea was that possibly Misty isn't 
writing about bi's because that what SHE feels, or that the general 
public will take it that way...

Roz said:
>Mat, dear, I think she was referring to the image of Whelan 'doing' Misty 
>with
>sexual connotations <g> Not to mention what Larry would do. Or say. Or
>draw .... <smyrk>

<look of false shock> All these dirty minds! Heather and Roz and Esme and 
Nightshade...why...why...<gryn>

Lorraine asked:
>obmisty(My first--go easy on me)-----It's been a while since I've read the
>Valdemar books--but I don't really recall any holidays mentioned---other than
>Sowan, for remembrance, soooooo--do they or don't they have holidays ?  And,
>if they do---what
>were they?

Well, there's Midsummer's Day/Eve/whatever...and I suppose Winter 
wossname...prolly more seasonal than religious, considering the "One True 
Way" thing, and that the Kaled'a'i-root people would prolly have season 
related ones, too.

I found Mort and Pyramids at the library, so I'm HAPPY!









 

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 18:15:13 -0800
From: Jeff Pugh <pgpugh-+AT+-inter-linc.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:Happy Holiday/Fluff/obmisty
Message-ID: <3297AFB1.16E3-+AT+-inter-linc.com>

BudLor-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> It's been a while since I've read the
> Valdemar books--but I don't really recall any holidays mentioned---other than
> Sowan, for remembrance, soooooo--do they or don't they have holidays ?  And,
> if they do---what
> were they?
> 
> 
>                                              
> 
> 

I recall that they celebrate Midwinter and Midsummer, but other than that, I can't think 
of anything.
-- 

~AmpliFireCat~ (or just Ampli)
-Acolyte of Music And Song

   "Well, to fit in on the Seattle scene, you gotta do something
they ain't never seen, so we was sitting around one day and decided
to be the only band that wouldn't play a note. Under any circumstances.
Silence- music's original alternative."
                                "Talkin' Seattle Grunge Rock Blues"
                                      -Tod Snyder

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 18:45:02 -0500
From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Brvaes Enters the Realm of Queen Attrib
Message-ID: <199611232355.SAA07408-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA>

Korendil wrote:
>And anyway, Jake, I did it a lot too. I even got a newbie privy mailing 
>me wanting to know when oathbifocused and oathblinded came out;> It's 
>fun;> I sent them that parody of Gyr's old sig that I made; the one about 
>B*ppy says one of the things He believes in is Trolling.;> Long Live the 
>List Herald Mime! That List was a typo, but I like it. THe Last Herald 
>Mime is dead! Long Live the List Herald Mime! bwehehehe--hey..I didn't 
>say his NAME, you know..

What about Oathbewildered?  And which one has Skippy the cat?  And could you 
send me that parody, please?  Oh, and by the way, I get my mail in MIME 
format, if that'll add fodder to your puns.

>Becky understood:
>> Actually, I understood Kory was being sarcastic
>
>Wow...you mean SOMEONE did? And it was actually the person I was writing 
>it to? Amazing;>
<snip>
>Heather(What She Said) made sue I knew:
>>well, *I* understood you, Kory.
>
>Wow. Two whole people. Which negates the two who didn't. I'm happy;> 
>(see, guys? A SMIRK!;)

Actually, I did, too. :) I just didn't want to make an off-topic post saying, 
"Kory was being sarcastic.  He does that a lot.  Get to know him a little 
better and you'll learn to take everything he says with a grain of salt." ;>

>Deniz scared us oldies by mentioning;> (a SMIRK. I WASN'T SERIOUS) :
>>Actually, there's this scale (I don't remember its name) that measures how 
>>gay 
>>or straight you are.
>
>Oh gods. Not this. Sigh...guess it fits into the Statute of Limitations 
>On Bloody OverWorked Subjects, but still....I was never involved closely 
>in this, what was it? Kinnesey, or something?

Yeah, I think that's it.  Why, have you guys discussed this before? 
(ISD&RLWBoPaAM)  err... that's (Innocent Smile, Duck, & Run Like Wild Beasts 
of Prey are After Me)

>>And, of course, my reaction would be "why is it "common decency" to pick one 
>>gender and stay put?"
>
>Um..I think Heather meant this in a sort of sarcastic manner...since 
>she's one of us WANTING  abook about a truly bi character, she wouldn't 
>say it showing her mindset. The idea was that possibly Misty isn't 
>writing about bi's because that what SHE feels, or that the general 
>public will take it that way...

Uhh... I believe that my post was acknowledging that, and saying that Heather 
phrased it in such a way to *make* us question SOCIETY's definition of "common 
decency."  I wasn't assuming SHE thought that way.

>Brvaes Enters the Realm of Queen Attrib

You know, that was one of the clearest, easiest to follow braids I've read in 
a while.  Thank you. :)  Keep it up! (no, no, no... not THAT... the WORK) ;>

love,
deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |But she had the trick of making a little
of Procrastination, Holy Custo-|island right in the middle of time, and of
dian of the B-Day List, and    |your knowing, which is what time does to
Dame of Amber and Marigold.    |you.    --   Robert Penn Warren
                 dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA

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