MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 996 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) did the list die? by "Emily L Cartier" 2) Braid: R&J/First Contact/SB spoiler/Ender's Game / by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 3) Re: did the list die? by Lady Becky of the Hills 4) Nightshade's birthday/books in Valdemar by Eleonora 5) YKYBRTMMW/intro/ by MTimmer430-+AT+-aol.com 6) Re: Fluff for the book of Genesis by shrike-+AT+-cnmnet.com 7) Re: Fluff for the book of Genesis by shrike-+AT+-cnmnet.com 8) NightShade's birthday gift by GRAYMT-+AT+-centum.utulsa.edu 9) Brvaes Taken From Cell--To Where He Knows Not... by Korendil 10) Valdemaran pleasure reading by "Heather D. Wegemer" 11) SKitty/two people/IDIC/a capella/ by DawnRain 12) Re: did the list die?/ SB spoiler discussion by "Emily L Cartier" 13) Re: B-Days/woodlark by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) 14) me!/b-days/music/obmisty by freakola 15) weekdays/SKitty/the 8/anathema :)/ by Khenta Blaufalk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:50:12 -0500 From: "Emily L Cartier" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: did the list die? Message-ID: <9612012053.AA18159-+AT+-udecc.engr.udayton.edu> I've been unpostponed for a coupla hours now and I still don't have any email. Did the list die, or is everyone busy reading their latest aquisition from the bookstore? Over my break, I read A Cast of Corbies. I thought it was OK, but not worth paying good cash for, even in paperback. Good thing I got it from the library . It didn't really seem to fit in all that well with the rest of the Bardic Voices, but it didn't warrant a whole new series name either. Just my $.02. I would recommend reading it if you've run out of new books and your library has it. Otherwise, skip it. I just read the only digest for today, and Kory mentioned putting Leonardo di Caprio on the cast list. I think that's a good idea, but he doesn't really seem to fit in with any of the good roles. We could make him dye his hair black and have him play Karal... If we include directors on the "cast list", I nominate the person who directed R&J. Sorry I don't know their name, but I was too busy discussing how awesome the movie was with Stephie to notice who had done the directing. The director managed to make me like my least favorite Shakespeare play, which is quite an accomplishment (I hate the story of R&J, never could suspend my disbelief at the plotline). Add me to the list of people who saw _First Contact_. I thought it was good, but it felt like they had skipped a good bit of the script. (I refuse to say more... Spoilers would ensue) Emily the invisible, who wishes she was still in PA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:18:31 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Braid: R&J/First Contact/SB spoiler/Ender's Game / Message-ID: <199612012112.PAA18696-+AT+-cdale3.midwest.net> Our resident pointy-eared, but not green blooded, being wrote: >>>Emily asked: >Has anyone else seen Romeo and Juliet Yeppers. AFter the gunfight, it ruled. Leonard Dicaprio deserves a place in the casting list, somewhere.<<< I can't agree with you more. Before this movie, I thought LD was another "pretty boy" of Hollywood, but the man (well, sort of -- too young, perhaps) can act. Let's see.... LD.... A-ha! He needs to be either 'Lendel or Skif (if he can handle the rapid change from mischievous to brooding, that is). He can do obsession, he can do grief, and he can do obsessive insanity. Kory wrote (about First Contact): >>> Take SUmmersong there, for example;> Didn't she just go a second time?<<< Yup. And I'm planning to go as many times as my cash and time permit. Trekkies aren't the only people going either. My brother and my dad went because I recommended it, and they absolutely loved it. I just recommended it to a friend of mine who lives in the KC area, and he plans to see it when some poor shmuck takes him to a theater in KC, and he's the most un-Trekkie person I know. About the critic -- screw the critic! Doesn't he know that hair pieces don't go over so well? Don't get me wrong here -- I do like the original series, but they didn't have a sexy captain (or a sexy android ). Good plot, yes, good movies (yes, even Trek I), yes. But the ugly captain got the girl while sexy Spock stood there and watched. *That* sucked. TOS had its merits, but I think it was more of a rough draft for TNG. But the show did have great episodes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SB spoiler: I just got done with Storm Breaking. I think Misty could have cut down on the chapters about the Empire (bo-ring!) and how Melles killed the assassin, how he handled the situation in the Empire, etc. The only real purpose Melles served was killing Charliss and making himself Emperor. Any schmuck could have killed the crazy emperor. I really didn't give a crap about what Melles did about the town, etc. The only important thing about him was that he plotted to kill Charliss, and he did it. That prevented the Storms from getting worse. The end was rushed miserably. Why couldn't she detail Karal's feelings before, during, and after the triggering of the cube maze? I felt that was more important. I liked the cover, except the Barbie horse, marshmallow man, and mutant lobster that was initially cut from an episode of the X-Files because it looked so unscary. Blue and gold, however, really works for Karal. The halos -- nice, but cut the roses. Please. End Spolier ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was reading Ender's Game again, and I've had some thoughts on casting . For Col. Graff, Jonathan Frakes; for Ender's father (I know, pretty minor) Brent Spiner ; for Ender as grad of Battle school going on to Tactical (I think), that kid who played the boy Captain Picard in TNG's "Rascals." Well, maybe not. The kid needs to be muscular, and he's skinny. Oh well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wow! This was short! Anyway, I gotta run.... Gotta read Sarek (Mark Lenard rocks!!!) by A.C. Crispin. Anyone read that? Love and logic, Summersong & Spiffy the Cat **************************************** Akiko Hirao "Tough little ship." -- Riker "Little?" -- Worf "We could use you at tactical, Mr. Worf" -- Picard "You do remember to fire phasers?" -- Riker >From Star Trek: First Contact **************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:09:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lady Becky of the Hills To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: did the list die? Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Emily L Cartier wrote: > I've been unpostponed for a coupla hours now and I still don't have > any email. Did the list die, or is everyone busy reading their latest > aquisition from the bookstore? > No it didn't die, it just kinda slows down a lot during holidays. It will probably do this again during christmas. Don't worry, everyone will be back and yakking in a few days. Or maybe everyone just ate so much during thanksgiving that they're unable to get up and get to their computers :) I almost did :) *--------------------Lady Becky of the Hills--------------------* |Goddess of Tofu and Dry Breakfast Cereals | |Handmaiden of Procrastination | |Lady in Green | |Founder of the AftPoSWT (confused? Just ask.) | |Mailing List Homepage http://www.psnw.com/~deb/becky/misty.html| |beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.com | *---------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 21:12:00 -0300 From: Eleonora To: Mercedes Lackey Mailing List Subject: Nightshade's birthday/books in Valdemar Message-ID: <32A21ED0.5242-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy> Hi, everybody! Hope you all had a wnoderful weekend. Today is Nightshade's birthday and I would like to give her a virtual copy of the Complete Works of Jane Austen. This magical pocket-sized edition, weights nothing at all, is delicately scented of cedar and sandalwood and will open on the novel most suitable for each of Nightshade's moods. Enjoy!! BTW, I almost forgot one of its most important features! It has the added value of bearing in its first page, a special hand-printed edition of Kory's sig., and the God of all things Nocturnal has added his special dedication :) (P.S., Nightshade, I still would like to have your snail mail address :)) ObMisty: do we learn about other books read for pleasure in Valdemar apart from Talia's while she is with the Holderkin?? Not too good, but then I'm out of ideas. Love, Ele Priestess of Karma LotPW Dame of the OAM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 20:52:19 -0500 From: MTimmer430-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: YKYBRTMMW/intro/ Message-ID: <961201205219_1520414265-+AT+-emout10.mail.aol.com> You Know You've Been Reading Too Much Misty When: You're writing an article summary about data modeling, and you use the phrase, "There is no one, true model." ============================================================ Ok, since I'm back at school, I might as well do an intro. I'm Mathew Timmerman, but I prefer to be called Mat. I'm 20 years old, and I come from Brooklyn, New York, USA. At the moment, I'm away at school on Long Island, at Hofstra University. I'm a junior (third year), and a computer science major. I'm also one of the list's gay members. I listen to to the Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, the Cranberries, etc, and lots and lots of filk/folk. Sooner or later, I'll be a member of Heather's Heathens (if my darn package will ever get here! Darn Heather Alexander's shipping skills! ). Other than Misty, I like to read Anne McCaffrey, Melanie Rawn, Diane Duane, Barbara Hambly, Tanya Huff, Katherine Kerr, Robert Jordan, and many others. Onlist, I'm often referred to as "Mat the Cat in Green". This referrs to my affliation with two list/magewar groups, the Cat People, and the Ladies and Champions in Green. I have been designated an Object of Undying Love/Lust by the Ladies of the Pink Wand. I am also the list's God of Procrastination. Oh, and lately, according to several people, I'm the sane, mellow one around here. Scary, isn't it? At the moment, I'm in sort of lurking, as finals are drawing ever nearer (eek, only a week and a half of classes left!). Normally, I'm at my school account (mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu), but at the moment, that server seems to be crashed. Sigh. If any newbies have any questions that they don't want to ask the list at large, they can mail me at my school account, or here (mtimmer430-+AT+-aol.com) with their questions. I've been onlist for a loooooong time, so it's quite likely that I'll know the answer. :) ============================================================= Ah, back to lurking. :) Mat the Cat in Green, etc. etc. (in AOexiLe) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 21:25:13 -0600 From: shrike-+AT+-cnmnet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fluff for the book of Genesis Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961202032513.0069e0d0-+AT+-cnmnet.com> >THE CREATION: >>> In the beginning there was the computer. And God said c:\Let there be light! Enter user id. c:\God Enter password. c:\Omniscient Password incorrect. Try again. c:\Omnipotent Password incorrect. Try again. c:\Technocrat And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Sunday, March 1. c:\Let there be light! Unrecognizable command. Try again. c:\Create light Done c:\Run heaven and earth And God created Day and Night. And God saw there were 0 errors. And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Sunday, March 1. And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Monday, March 2. c:\Let there be firmament in the midst of water and light Unrecognizable command. Try again. c:\Create firmament Done. c:\Run firmament And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors. And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Monday, March 2. And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Tuesday, March 3. c:\Let the waters under heaven be gathered together unto one place and let the dry land appear Too many characters in specification string. Try again. c:\Create dry_land Done. c:\Run firmament And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors. And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Tuesday, March 3. And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Wednesday, March 4. c:\Create lights in the firmament to divide the day from the light Unspecified type. Try again. c:\Create sun_moon_stars Done c:\Run sun_moon_stars And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors. And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Wednesday, March 4. And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Thursday, March 5. c:\Create fish Done c:\Create fowl Done c:\Run fish, fowl And God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that creepeth wherewith the waters swarmed after its kind and every winged fowl after its kind. And God saw there were 0 errors. And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Thursday, March 5. And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Friday, March 6. c:\Create cattle Done c:\Create creepy_things Done c:\Now let me make man in my image Unspecified type. Try again. c:\Open God_database Database opened c:\Use Human_nature Table loaded c:\Create man Done c:\Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth Too many command operands. Try again. c:\Run multiplication Execution terminated. 6 errors. c:\Insert breath Done c:\Run multiplication Execution terminated. 5 errors. c:\Move man to Garden of Eden File Garden of Eden does not exist. c:\Create Garden.edn Done c:\Move man to Garden.edn Done c:\Run multiplication Execution terminated. 4 errors. c:\Copy woman from man Done c:\Run multiplication Execution terminated. 2 errors. c:\Create desire Done c:\Run multiplication And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in Garden.edn Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors. c:\Create freewill Done c:\Run freewill And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in Garden.edn Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors. c:\Undo desire Desire cannot be undone once freewill is created. c:\Destroy freewill Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed. Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help. c:\Help Desire cannot be undone once freewill is created. Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed. Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help. c:\Create tree_of_knowledge And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in Garden.edn Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors. c:\Create good, evil Done c:\Activate evil And God saw he had created shame. Warning system error in sector E95. Man and woman not in Garden.edn. 1 errors. c:\Scan Garden.edn for man, woman Search failed. c:\Delete shame Shame cannot be deleted once evil has been activated. c:\Destroy freewill Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed. Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help. c:\Stop Unrecognizable command. Try again c:\Break c:\Break c:\Break *** ATTENTION ALL USERS: COMPUTER GOING DOWN FOR REGULAR DAY OF MAINTENANCE AND REST IN FIVE MINUTES. PLEASE LOG OFF. c:\Create new world You have exceeded your allocated file space. You must destroy old files before new ones can be created. c:\Destroy earth Destroy earth: Please confirm. c:\Destroy earth confirmed COMPUTER DOWN *** COMPUTER DOWN. SERVICES WILL RESUME SUNDAY, MARCH 8 TH 7:00 AM. YOU MUST SIGN OFF NOW. And God logged off at 11:59:59 PM, Friday, March 6. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 21:29:26 -0600 From: shrike-+AT+-cnmnet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fluff for the book of Genesis Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961202032926.006a4da8-+AT+-cnmnet.com> oops, i wrong destination. I apologize profusely for my mistake. I was trying to edit it and send it to me and i forgot to change the address *grins sheepishly* i offer a hand made silver chainmail sheep doily for recompense shrike somethings are impossible to find ....until you stop looking ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 22:19:07 -0600 (CST) From: GRAYMT-+AT+-centum.utulsa.edu To: MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK Subject: NightShade's birthday gift Message-ID: <961201221907.22c2ef52-+AT+-centum.utulsa.edu> Hello All, I've not been on-list for a while, but my Dax keeps me updated. She and I are certainly 2 seperate people but we act like one..... I am cramming for finals and writing a law journal paper on mediation in the PRC (mainland China) and.....procrastinating and stressing badly. Still, happy birthday and a box of chocolates to each whose name I do not know, chocolates which are silk and velvet to the mouth, and sweet like the soft of a baby's rosy cheek and kitten's softest playful fur... Still, as we saw in the Frost poem in this discourse a while back, I have promises to keep, and NightShade to keep them too...... To NightShade ..... the coolness well known in brief respite beneath boughs of green shade is sanctuary of body and heat stressed mind... but look to the cool of the shadows of night to cloak in some comfort the well deep pained soul of angst and, perhaps, despair. To some, the bower of night a cover beneath which to elude the throes of apathy or depression or both.... but to others, just precisely that stage state of light which, enhanced in synchronicity with the way of the moon, engages reflection impossible in the direct light of day... reflection needed to provide the dorr of self shadow where dim memory meets deep pools of soul's darkest night and brings into the shaded and cooly cradled protections of night the denizens of those depths to shy and in eternal pain to approach at another time.....do they not need love and play to proceed upon the wheel of an eternal I to a new birth into, perhaps the shade of night o itself. Oh to you the cool shade of that night, that night wherein your own shadows may come out to play....telling you their whispered secrets full of Power and Art, telling you your very fears...fears only acceptable, only accessible, only transmutable from the velvet gray stage of nights cool, spruce scented wet shadows.... Blessed Be to thee NightShade, and to all of you beyond my immediate visual pale out there in listland. Carrach (perhaps diety of mediation etc.) If interesting then perhaps the same of provocation as well......) "Be nice.....until it is time Not to be nice." RoadHouse "I, assembled hosts, shall say "when" " ;) Carrach ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 96 23:21:33 -0500 From: Korendil To: Subject: Brvaes Taken From Cell--To Where He Knows Not... Message-ID: <9612020427.AA01134-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> Emily asked: >I've been unpostponed for a coupla hours now and I still don't have >any email. Did the list die, or is everyone busy reading their latest >aquisition from the bookstore? I'd been wondering too, for awhile. Just a really, really, really, really, really light load...I was seriously scared when no new posts had come for 9 hours... Summersong said: >I can't agree with you more. Before this movie, I thought LD was another >"pretty boy" of Hollywood, but the man (well, sort of -- too young, >perhaps) can act. Let's see.... LD.... A-ha! He needs to be either 'Lendel >or Skif (if he can handle the rapid change from mischievous to brooding, >that is). He can do obsession, he can do grief, and he can do obsessive >insanity. Heh. I'd never seen him before, but he was *good*...yeppers..he could do Lendel or Skif, but lessee...hmm....An'desha? He could do An'desha, maybe...I forget what he looks like, though. Ele said: >Today is Nightshade's birthday and I would like to give her a virtual >copy of the Complete Works of Jane Austen. The dedication, btw, reads: "To keep thou busy on the late-night vigils with nothing to do--Worshippers and Pilgrims go to sleep after the Service. Thou dost not. Now thou havest something to do waiting for dawn. Enjoy, High Priestess Mine." Well, there's Ele's gift...now for mine;> Nightshade, on this remembrance of thy birthing day, I would gift thee with Power. As thou hast served me in truest faith, and Korendil does not ignore his Followers. In the mortal world power is coming to thee with thy 21st year, and so in this world of My Making. I free thee from the need to bow to other Gods and Goddesses--Mind thee, be respectful, tithe if thou feel a want, but never shall it be required. And thou also gets a nice piece of Night Chocolate (like Dark Chocolate but inkier), shaped as a Holy Sheep, with no special properties whatsoever, except it tastes good;> Summersong critiqued: >SB spoiler: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I just got done with Storm Breaking. I think Misty could have cut down on >the chapters about the Empire (bo-ring!) and how Melles killed the >assassin, how he handled the situation in the Empire, etc. The only real >purpose Melles served was killing Charliss and making himself Emperor. Any >schmuck could have killed the crazy emperor. I really didn't give a crap >about what Melles did about the town, etc. The only important thing about >him was that he plotted to kill Charliss, and he did it. That prevented the >Storms from getting worse. The end was rushed miserably. Why couldn't she >detail Karal's feelings before, during, and after the triggering of the >cube maze? I felt that was more important. Well, I *don't* think that we've seen the last of Melles. The stuff about the EMpire, I think, serves to give us a really good idea of the culture in one fell swoop, since she wants to right more about 'em. The killing the assasin part, minus the really-kewl-in-a-sick-way-factor, shows what he's like, what he doesn't have qualms about doing. Now that we know how he handled the situation, we know he can do the job he's gonna do. He's more important than jsut killing Charliss. Melles is the Emperor now, and I think he's gonna play an important role ASAMWM(As Soon As Misty Writes More--After my success with , I thought I'd try and add something else to the list;>). And while the end was rushed, I don't think all the Empire stuff should have been cut--ok, some of it could have been, but I actually *liked* that part. Rather, she should have paced the writing better. She was trying the mulkti-point-of-views-at-once that GGK does, but she ran out of time. And I want more of Karal and Natoli. We should have had parts about Natoli, too. And the conversations they had (It's amazing..a Misty ROmance that's evenly paced and not going super-fast;>). -+AT+-LIDNEROK___________/ KORENDIL-+AT+-ICUBED.NET \_____________KORENDIL-+AT+- I|Korendil, Knight of the Order of Amber & Marigold and Elfhame |I C|Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Envoy to Elfhame |C U|Misthold, Magus Minor, One In Black,Firstborn Child of Danaan,|U B|God of Night and All Things Nocturnal, Champion of the Ladies |B E|of the Pink Wand, Acting Master of Dreams, and Ailurophile. |E D|.NET______________/NAME THE MIME AND DIE!!\_______________TEN.|D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:13:30 +0000 From: "Heather D. Wegemer" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Valdemaran pleasure reading Message-ID: <9612020509.AA25982-+AT+-flash> Eleonora wondered: > Do we learn about other books read for pleasure in Valdemar > apart from Talia's while she is with the Holderkin?? We certainly do, though the books are Karsite in origin. (From Storm Warning, page 165:) >[Ulrich] smiled. "I saw some of your books; I do not think you will >have any trouble passing the time. > >Karal flushed, because fully half of his books had been nothing more >enlightening than popular romances and tales of high adventure. Two pages later, the Tale of Gregori is mentioned as an example. Although I dwell by choice in realms Ephemeral as phosphor glow It is a life -- it is _my_ life -- As real as aught you know. H. Wegemer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 01:41:03 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: SKitty/two people/IDIC/a capella/ Message-ID: <32A2961F.5B3B-+AT+-geocities.com> dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA(the woodlark one) wrote: why is it SKitty, as opposed to Skitty, or skitty? > is there a reason for this? is it something i'd have to have read the other > Catfantastics or a Darkover or a Ship or What-Have-You for? or is it simply > random? IIRC, it's 'cause the cat's full name is real long and formal, so she got known as Dick's Kitty, which just got shortened to sKitty. I'd go look... but I'm doing twenty different things, as ever... so textevd upon request. AND.... > *grin* i'm amazed even two people were taken in. the only reason i came out > to you all was because it was getting hard trying to keep the distinction > in my private mail. but on the list, we're different people still, so respect > that, please. You caught me, too, 'cause I met you as two different people, so.... Next note... Aikiko wrote:(re IDIC) > YES! I try to live by it as well. I find it perfectly logical that to > coexist peacefully, we must first understand and accept our differences. > It's a beautiful concept that needs to be put into action more publicly. I > wonder how many people were actually inspired by that. I really was. It just makes SENSE... and it keeps me from killing my family and some of my co-workers. I also really loved McCoy's speech in Spock's World. For someone who's a "doctor, not a public speaker," he certainly spoke well. and then in the same note wondered: > ObMisty: Do a capella vocal groups of Bards exist in Velgarth? I'm > listening to "The Longest Time" by Billy Joel and I love that song. It > would be so neat if there were groups like that, traveling around. I don't know about Bards forming a capella groups but wasn't there something that Kero said to Talia and Dirk when she was groaning about "Kerowyn's Ride?" Ok, well, that's it for now, short but there. Later! Star -- Kris Bailey--Aka MorningStar, NightFire, DawnRain, and names too darn numerous to include in this list. E-mail-- morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com bv165-+AT+-freenet.uchsc.edu kris.bailey-+AT+-sdoct.com dawnrain00-+AT+-aol.com http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9763 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 08:42:21 -0500 From: "Emily L Cartier" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: did the list die?/ SB spoiler discussion Message-ID: <9612021345.AA21180-+AT+-udecc.engr.udayton.edu> I just thought it was sorta strange because while I was at home in PA the list was only a little quieter than normal. Then I get back here and no one says anything for hours and hours! Scared me. I thought maybe the Internet link had gone down somewhere or that Vanyel was sick. I want to put my two cents in about SB so... Hmmm. I think that this is good enough. Re: Melles and the Storms tril I think that he is really important to later books BUT we didn't need 1/3 of the book to be about him. An'desha was really important in the Storms tril, but he didn't get a full 1/3 of WoFury! I think that if Misty had cut it back to the fact that Melles existed, he did a few things (like the bit with the baby and the assasin) and he became emperor, the whole book would've been a lot better. She might even have had enough extra material that the ending wouldn't've been that horrible cliffhanger thing. She also should think about going to longer books. There was enough material in the Storms tril for close to 1500 pages at the very least. Misty tried to do it in about 1200! I think that there isn't enough plot left to have made another book, but there was definitely enough plot to make a _much_ longer set of three. She also _really_ needs to write the story of how Talia got made a Sunpriest. I get the feeling that Misty knows Solaris very well, yet Solaris seems a very off stage sort of character. She's there. She does lots of things. If we saw her for more than 50 pages in the Storms tril I'd be very surprised. Yet Misty _seems_ to know a lot more about Solaris than can be explained by what's in the book. Very strange. I could be wrong about this. I only read SRising once before I gave it to Mom, and I haven't seen it since! A F T E R S P O I L E R S P A C E Does anyone else remember that red robed priestess that Kero and Eldan saw in Karse? She had blonde hair and was described as looking like a flower. She also apparently was able to notice Need. Anyway. I noticed her when I reread BTS and thought that maybe this was Solaris. No evidence, she just seemed to fit the basic description of Solaris and was rather vividly described. If she is indeed Solaris, I wonder if Kero and Solaris have ever met face to face? Emily the invisible ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 13:06:56 -0600 From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: B-Days/woodlark Message-ID: <199612021904.AA281563459-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu> > >2-day birthday warning for... > > Nightshade, turning the big two-one on the 2nd, and... > Emily Snodgrass, turning 22 on the same day (anybody seen her around > lately?) > Happy Birthday to both Nightshade and Emily! To Nightshade, I give a bottle of vintage champagne with which to celebrate your 21st birthday. It's bottomless, so you can share it with all of your family and friends. To Emily, I give you a bouquet of your favorite flowers...they won't wilt or dry up, and you can keep them forever. Nina Ehgartner Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management email: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu Phone: (847) 491-3308 Fax: (847) 491-4960 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 14:07:02 -0800 From: freakola To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: me!/b-days/music/obmisty Message-ID: <32A35306.5FF2-+AT+-geocities.com> i apologize in advance if this was sent out twice. i clicked "Stop" as soon as i could ('cause it wasn't quite perfect), and i'm not sure if it was sent out or not. :) guess what? first off, though i appreciate moments of contemplative silence, i felt that this was getting ridiculous. well, i have news. deniz and i just got a site for a homepage and a new e-mail address. i'm still working on uploading my homepage correctly, and all, but i just wanted you to know so you can check it out when it's really working. +++++ Lady Nightshade -- i'm deeply apologetic for not having sent you birthday greetings yesterday, but am finally sending you a bubble-jar, whose bubbles gleam and glisten and swirl the colors you wish, and when they pop, you can hear bells (or whatever other instrument you'd prefer). Emily Snodgrass -- on this, thy birthday, may you hear not the squeak of shoes on wet pavement, but rather, the song of souls crying joy. (does that make sense?) ----- a while ago, some people were discussing how they experienced music (ie: colors, pictures...) well, i've been considering this a whole ton during this past week, and am proffering my observations. when i hear music, i can see the colors, taste/feel the texture, and i can feel it somewhere in my body -- listening to a wonderful singer, i can feel my soft pallet rise, and my whole throat relax, whereas listening to someone who isn't that great will give me knots in my throat, stomach, back, wherever they're probably tense. and i can also feel where they're placing their notes not by the sound quality, but by feeling it in my head. funny, huh? ===== ObMisty: hoo boy, i've used up quite a few fluff points, haven't i? ok. er... is there a public transportation system set up in Valdemar yet? if not, is it because the population hasn't urbanized enough to need it? would urbanization be a bad thing when they're environmentally conscience and have magic? -- |~| ______________________________________________ |~| | |~| free bard woodlark -- freakola-+AT+-geocities.com |~| | ~| |______________________________________________| |~ ~ http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/9359 ~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:15:32 +0100 (CET) From: Khenta Blaufalk To: Misty mail Subject: weekdays/SKitty/the 8/anathema :)/ Message-ID: Oy, forgot to mention in my reintroduction-post that I'm on this list since the last days of January this year. That would make it 10 months? ;) ======================================================================= Firemist writes: >quick lesson: Mandag would literally be Man-day man=man, dag=day. >Maan = moon. see if you can guess zondag, maandag, dinsdag, >woensdag, donderdag, vrijdag, zaterdag. Sunday, moonday, have no idea >where dins came from, IIRC the german "Diens" in Dienstag (= tuesday = dinsdag) is derived from the term "Thing" (no, not that thing! :)), the gathering of all people in council at the "Thingstaette" (= Thing-place). This goes back to Germanic tribes and is no invention of 3rd Reich ideologists (although the Thingstaette here at Heidelberg was build in the 1930s -- those of you who have read Erica Jong's _Fear of Flying_ have read about that place). > free-day (sticky here because vrij is also the 1st person >singular verb form of vrijen which means to make love, so it could be >sex day :) IIRC, it is derived from Freya, norse goddess ("Freya's day") =========================================================================== Deniz writes: > i read the "A Tale of Two SKittys" today when i >was there -- real cute. why is it SKitty, as opposed to Skitty, or >skitty? is there a reason for this? AFAIK, it was an abbrev. of sorts for Dirk's kitty -> SKitty (Dirk? huh?) ========================================================================== Korendil writes: >Speaking >of books my parents have recomended to me, anyone read The Eight, by >wosshername? Deals with chess and alchemy, sort of. Not as epic a scale >as Physcian, but good. For a book your parents make you read;> Yes, great book (by Katherine Neville, I wonder if she has ever written something else), still one of my favourites. Although I have no idea of either music or chess, I enjoyed it nevertheless. Sort of alternative history. ====================================================================== Kawry writes: >Thats kind of the way I feel now with all the Christmas preparation. >With all the people(s) in the world who do not celebrate Christmas, I've >always wondered how it's gotten so public. Well, we can always blame it on Coca-Cola, can we not? As one of my classmates told me today, Santa Claus (Weihnachtsmann to speakers of German) was an invention of said company. She said originally he was one of their employees, clad in red-and-white. I do not know what to think of that, I certainly haven't heard that theory before. ===================================================================== Romylee (cool name, btw!) writes: **Re: Americanocentric** >However, I think it's fair to say that every country >_is_ ethnocentric. It's just natural to think that your country is the >center of everything, and to think of global events in terms of how they >affect your country. No. I. Will. Not. Even. Start. On. This. Thread. :O ;) ======================================================================== Walk in beauty Khenta Blaufalk bhanel-+AT+-ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de aka Skyfire k'Vala, Goddess of Incomplete Vocabulary and Garbled Grammar ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 996 *********************************