MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1001 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) My intro & new book by SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com 2) x-mas and singing and hello by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) 3) Re: Intro & a bunch of other stuff by John Hagen 4) re: that Sylvia person/ tea leaves/ fibre arts/burble by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 5) Re: heyla by "Romylee A. Ejercito" 6) Horses/HTH/Deniz/OAM by singer-+AT+-iglobal.net 7) Bardic/other singers/hello/Carol(not the Brady)/ by DawnRain 8) webpage/Me/Obmisty by Deniz 9) Sylvia/micro intro/languages/Sun and Shadow by "Emily L Cartier" 10) Re: Bardic/hello/Carol/Question/Hth by Katherine M Brielmaier 11) Big ooppps by belrex 12) Anthos by "Hth." 13) Hello / Dragon*Con / Misty Short Stories, etc. by Shdwflt-+AT+-aol.com 14) I'm back/Farsight/Foresight by Hades16-+AT+-aol.com 15) Re: DragonCon by Mat the Cat in Green 16) MO Companion by lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) 17) caring heart by Rose 18) Fiber Arts in Velgarth/Goddess of the Web by singer-+AT+-iglobal.net 19) Oops by Mat the Cat in Green 20) Re: caring heart, language in Valdemar by Katherine M Brielmaier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:14:11 -0500 From: SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: My intro & new book Message-ID: <961204081410_2050055062-+AT+-emout12.mail.aol.com> Hi Guys! I just logged on to this list a few days ago and I am amazed by the volume of mail generated by you guys. Don't you ever eat/sleep/go to classes?...Oh well, I guess I just gave myself away. I have a sneaky suspicion that I'm alot more mature (read older) than most of you. For me, college is so far down the road behind me that it's hardly visible in the rear view mirror. I work full time and manage 3 retail store locations. I also have two teen-aged sons, 15 and 17 hense the initial comment (sounded like your mother I'll bet). I have been reading Misty's books for years as well as Anne McCaffrey, Lois Bujold, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Gordon R. Dickson, etc. And that brings me to the first of the two reasons I dared stick my nose into your conversation. MZB has for years been publishing anthologies under the title "Sword and Sorceress" I think there may be as many as 12 or so. Some of them have short stories of Tarma and Kethry that cover not only "the further adventures" kind of things but also stories of their life among the Shin'a'in when Kethry's children were growing up. I really wish that they could all be gathered in one book to releave my book shelf of many inches of paper, but in the mean time, I thought you may not even know that they exist. Now, as to the second point...I picked up an advertising blerb in Barnes and Noble yesterday, and saw that Misty has edited her own anthology called "Sword of Ice and Other Tales of Valdemar". It's certainly not as good as another in the series, but hopefully since she is the editor it will not be filled with outrageous anamolies. Happy reading, Happy Holidays, PEACE Meg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 08:05:13 -0600 From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: x-mas and singing and hello Message-ID: <199612041402.AA159278158-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu> > >and then wrote: >>>re: heyla - well the spanish use hola, and I'm alwaysgetting my holas >and heylas muddled << > >About that, a little. Are there any languages where the 'hello' salutation >~doesn't~ sound similar to hello? There's always German (I'd love to spell it, but I can only pronounce it) and Italian. Buon giorno means hello in addition to the literal translation on good morning. > >On the same note (sorry :), how many of you like to sing Christmas carols? >I was thinking of doing a tape of them sometime. I think my fav is between >Silent Night and O holy Night. Anyone else? > I love Silent Night and O Holy Night! I also love Adeste Fideles (the Latin sounds _so_ much better) and Gesu Bambino. My dad loves Silent Night, too. He grew up in Austria near the German border not too far from the church where the melody for Silent Night was written. 2. Oh! I know! The performers thing. I was thinking. When Darkwind and Elspeth went to Hardorn, diguised as a group of travelling performers. It occurs to me that it wouldn't have been very good cover if they were the only one's who had ever done it. So there must be some sort of travelling gleemen or something. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When their group went into Hardorn, they joined up with one of the very few remaining troupes left in that country. I don't know if I would call these people gleemen because they seemed to be more like a traveling carnival group. Anyway, the part where Firesong is exclaiming how he's going to be the head of the Great Mage Pandemonium and dress like Skyseeker k'Treva is one of my favorites--it always makes me laugh! Well, so much for my first (if brief) braid. Nina Ehgartner Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management email: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu Phone: (847) 491-3308 Fax: (847) 491-4960 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 09:18:00 -0400 From: John Hagen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Intro & a bunch of other stuff Message-ID: <32A579F0.5559-+AT+-snet.net> Heyla everyone, I'm back from being gone since July. My name is Sara Hagen. I'm a housewife and computer person (you name it, I've used it). I read everything from cereal boxes to history to science to romance (which is fantasy, in my opinion) to sci-fi and fantasy. I've been a Trekkie/er since 1966. I converted my son to Trekdom when he was 5. He's now 14 and reading books for sophmores in college. As far as my appearance, I'm a natural redhead, have blue-green eyes and I'm 5'1" tall. Presently I have psoriasis from my head to my toes literally and it is slowly getting better. As far as the Velgarth books go, I started with the LHM and continued in the order that they were published. I agree that Misty's writing is slipping (maybe because of pressure from her publisher/agent/public?). Heather please come back! I love your posts. They are so well written that they are a pleasure to read. Jake, welcome back. Rainwood, thank you for all the Chanukah gifts. Come December 24, I will be sending out Christmas presents. Deniz, in case you don't have my birthday it is June 6. Concerning voice both music and speaking. I sang in choirs growing up and took drama and acting in HS and after. One thing you must learn in drama is how to project your voice so that it fills a auditorium. This does not mean shouting or screaming. It entails breathing from the diaphragm and forming your lines clearly, with emotion behind them. You need to do the same thing in a choir, obviously depending on the type of song (hymn, love song, christmas carol, etc.) to clue you as to what emotion to express. Of course this must be blindingly obviously to every musician on the list. So, if you're offended, let me know by e-mail. Lady Sara, Dryad extraordinaire "_Resistence_is_futile_!" Data to the Borg Queen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 96 15:42:22 +0100 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: re: that Sylvia person/ tea leaves/ fibre arts/burble Message-ID: <9612041442.AA04798-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> 'lo all, Emily the invisible wrote: > A while back Cennydd said: "Who is Sylvia and what is she, that all > our swains commend her?" > I found it familiar but couldn't place it at all. > He just explained: >>Oops. Now that I said this, I cannot find the reference. The poetry >>book that has it is at home with my mom (it is her book). Anyway, I >>am almost positive that it is Shakespeare, one of his comedies, but I >>can't remember which. > Hmm. That would explain why I found it familiar (McDevitt's senior > English Lit class is called Shakespeare, and I _loved_ it). Since I > found it familiar it is probably in _Merchant of Venice_, _Twelfth > (sp) Night_, _A Midsummer Night's Dream_, _Much Ado About Nothing_ or > _The Tempest_ because those are the "comedies" that I know the best. > I kinda doubt that it's the last two though. It's Two Gentlemen of Verona =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ele asked, > Do we know of any divination skills in Velgarth? I do not mean foresight > as practiced by Heralds, but things like tea leaves reading, or buzios > or Tarot, or something of the sort. Probably not - I mean if there are people who can seriously see/sense the future around, the small time practitioners have some heavy competition. It's also possible, that. like the weather witch, there are those around with bits of talent who never get chosen nor nuffink. So if you can really see the future, why piss around with glass balls, cups of tea and decks of cards? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kessira mused, > Do we see much in the way of the "fiber arts" in Velgarth? There's > the mending scenes in Arrows, (she means weaving, knitting, spinning ..) Well Talia is spinning right at the beginning of Arrows, as she reads I think, and there's the mending room as you say. Fibre arts tend to go with hearth and home, they're quiet, non-heroic, generally bloodless activities, that your average hero/heroine couldn't be doing with. Not macho enough! I always get a sense of serenity from watching people create with their hands - and there's not a lot of quiet creation or serenity in ML's books. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Cen wrote (apparently - I picked this out of Summersong's mail >>>(BTW, for any of you have read _Crystal Singer_, I *WAS* Killashandra Ree!) I like those books - didn't buy the third for ages, 'cos I was convinced it was going to be another example of McC not knowing when to quit, but actually, when I did finally cave in, I really enjoyed it (Crystal Line - I think). It was gentler and more human. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- right, that's me, another thought provoking, stimulating mail from the Low Lands. Hey-ho - I have things to do I don't want to do, so I'm prevaricating, procrastinating, shillyshallying and generally avoiding the issue - , Heard that ooooold hit "It's raining men" yesterday, (being very nicely danced to by 4 nearly naked young men - on the telly, on the telly - honest!), and have been burbling it ever since - I need it for the car! Oh enough enough, get on with it EE, quit stalling. Esmeralda ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:05:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Romylee A. Ejercito" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: heyla Message-ID: > > > >About that, a little. Are there any languages where the 'hello' salutation > >~doesn't~ sound similar to hello? > > Turkish = Merhaba > Arabic = Marhaba > or Sala'am Aleikhum response: Aleikhum Sala'am > Hebrew = Shalom > Chinese = Ni how > > I could go on, but I'll assume that you were thinking *romance* languages. /me grins. /me has noticed that when people say "languages" they mean romance languages. Here's another one: "Kumusta?" (which is a bastardized version of "Como estas) and "Mabuhay". Hmm, guess that actually makes two, but they're from the same language. :) Myles ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M. Ejercito rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu If you are given an open-book exam, you will forget your book. COROLLARY: If you are given a take-home test, you will forget where you live. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:25:49 -0600 From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Horses/HTH/Deniz/OAM Message-ID: On 12/4 Wintershard wrote: >Also, other than the obvious differences, what else is there between a >Companion and a horse? Say, maybe a Shin'a'in? Eh? . Is this really a question, Wintershard? If it is ask again, and maybe I'll give it a shot. Don't worry; not with my bow. :-) 'Long as you don't insult the children, anyway. :-) To Heather (Beloved Grand Dame and Champion): Heather, your last essay was beautiful. I won't try to change your mind about semi-lurking, because you obviously thought about it and you believe you're doing the right thing for yourself, at this moment. But I will miss you, and I hope you will be back soon, in full form! :-) :-) On 12/4, Deniz wrote: >So I *am* regarded as a strong personality? Sorry, I just can't keep the >airhole shut. Well, I'm glad that one person will vouch for our >approachability. Make it two, Deniz. :-) I say to you all, I have always found Deniz's posts, charming, graceful, witty and kind. She is *very* approachable, on and off list. In my experience, she has never been anything but polite and (apparantly) interested! :-) Hmm, same goes for woodlark, but I really have spoken more with Deniz. Thanks for the book nd the peace, Deniz. I really *do* need it right now. (No, I'm *not Reesa, but she did extend it, didn't she? ) May Her light be in your hearts and Her peace fill your tents. Go Gently, Tresta BTW, are there any *men* in the OAM? Just curious; I've only met my Sisters. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%% Tresta shena Jor'ethan "Love must live free." Healer to horses -Shin'a'in Teaching Knight of Amber and Marigold %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "To be tired of horses is to be tired of life; horses are a gift to us." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 11:49:02 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Bardic/other singers/hello/Carol(not the Brady)/ Message-ID: <32A5C79E.4531-+AT+-geocities.com> I said, > > But wait, > >didn't Stef play mostly instrumental music for Randale's court but still > >have the gift behind it? To which Kory said, > That was his Wild Talent. Yeah, but he also used his Talent influence on the courtiers, didn't he? To make them see that Randi was in bad shape? That he didn't make them wait on purpose? EOM/BOM For all the "singing idiots" and such... I'm quite enjoying the technical musical discussion, but I haven't really anything much to contribute. I do sing, although not as much as I'd like these days, but I haven't anything to add to what you guys are saying. Keep it up, though! EOM/BOM Wintershard said... > About that, a little. Are there any languages where the 'hello' salutation > ~doesn't~ sound similar to hello? Well, AFAIK, the Japanese is Konnichiwa, and I don't know about German for hello but my friends always use Guten Tag or just Tag on me... and also: > On the same note (sorry :), how many of you like to sing Christmas carols? > I was thinking of doing a tape of them sometime. I think my fav is between > Silent Night and O holy Night. Anyone else? I LOVE Christmas carols! My favorites are those, Carol of the Bells, and It Came Upon a Midnight Clear...at least this week! EOM/BOM Well, I've come to the end of the comments I'm making for this venture into my mailbox! Have fun! MorningStar -- Kris Bailey--Aka MorningStar, NightFire, DawnRain, and names too darn numerous to include in this list. E-mail-- morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com dawnrain-+AT+-geocities.com bv165-+AT+-freenet.uchsc.edu kris.bailey-+AT+-sdoct.com dawnrain00-+AT+-aol.com http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9763 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 96 14:03:29 -0500 From: Deniz To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: webpage/Me/Obmisty Message-ID: <199612041914.OAA28046-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA> Okay, This is just a brief blurb saying, "I've uploaded two pages to my site, and am now working on the rest! What I want to know is, can I link to any of your pages, please? If so, please send me your URL, and if you have a spiffy title besides "so-and-so's page" or some short description, send that along, too. One brief warning -- I'm not allowed to link to any sites displaying pornographic material, or that which encourages breaking the law or racism." Come see what I've got right now. If it's ever completely finished, I'll let you all know. Tresta said: >>>Make it two, Deniz. :-) I say to you all,<<< and went on to say many flattering comments along that line. I'm commenting on this so you know I'm not ignoring it or letting it get to my head. I'm touched that you care for me that much. Well, wow, how to respond to something like that? Tresta, you haven't seen me woken up at 3 in the morning by a phone call from my parents! It's a dern good thing I don't post then; I'd give Oscar a serious run for the money! (you can say *that* again!) (Hey, can the comments from the peanut gallery!) (i thought you liked peanut butter ;>) (oooh, I'll get you for that one, just wait'll I get my hands on you...) (*tinkle of laugh*) Speaking of which, is it true that Grover's dead of cancer and that Ernie has AIDS? I felt so out of touch when I heard from a friend. Poor Bert, this must be so hard for him. Obmisty: I, too, like the idea of having all the T&K short stories combined into a novel. Meg said: >>>I picked up an advertising blerb in Barnes and Noble yesterday, and saw that Misty has edited her own anthology called "Sword of Ice and Other Tales of Valdemar". It's certainly not as good as another in the series, but hopefully since she is the editor it will not be filled with outrageous anamolies.<<< Err... is it out yet? And what's this other in the series? I'm confuzled. love, deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |"Perhaps today IS a good to die!"-- Worf of Procrastination, Holy Custo-|"You told him about the statue?" -- Riker dian of the B-Day List, and |"I'm a doctor, not a doorstop." -- EMH Dame of Amber and Marigold. |"Definitely not Swedish." -- Lily dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA | Star Trek: First Contact ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:35:31 -0500 From: "Emily L Cartier" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Sylvia/micro intro/languages/Sun and Shadow Message-ID: <9612041938.AA11582-+AT+-udecc.engr.udayton.edu> Thanks Esme. I'll read _Two Gentlemen of Verona_ over Christmas break. It hasn't been that long since I joined the list, but here's a quick reintro of me . I'm 19 years old, and I'm an electrical engineering major (first year) at the University of Dayton. I'm a Catholic who learns about other religions so she doesn't do things like offer pork to a Jew or Muslim. My little sister (Stephanie/Syber) and my mom (Mary) are also on the list, and when I'm at home I post from their addy (I can't shut up, even for a week). Deniz said: > Turkish = Merhaba > Arabic = Marhaba > or Sala'am Aleikhum response: Aleikhum Sala'am > Hebrew = Shalom > Chinese = Ni how > I could go on, but I'll assume that you were thinking *romance* >languages. Well, I can think of two romance languages where hello doesn't sound like "hello". French= bonjour, bonsoir, bonnuit et salut tout le monde! and Latin= salve (singular), ave (also sing.) or salvete or avete (plural) Latin doesn't have a hello equivelent cause it's a (mostly) dead language and French only uses it on the telephone. To me, hello is a very American English word, and I mostly don't use it (good morning/evening to adults and hi to friends). I really can't figure out why heyla is used on Velgarth... Ok, here's my ObMisty, and it's a good one. First of all, there's a quilt pattern called "Sun and Shadow". It's more usually called "Trip around the World", and it's really pretty. Second half. Has it occured to anyone that Sunsinger and Shadowdancer may be translations of Rothas and Lythe's last names? Cartier comes out as cardmaker/ scribe, and there are lots of other odd (in English) sounding ones that are just occupational names (Scribner, Zimmerman et al). Maybe Misty just translated it from Valdemaren cause she couldn't think up a good imaginary word for the names. She does the same thing with Tayledras names, leaves them in English and sounding really crazy. Emily the invisible ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:47:09 -0600 (CST) From: Katherine M Brielmaier To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bardic/hello/Carol/Question/Hth Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, DawnRain wrote: > I said, > > > But wait, > > >didn't Stef play mostly instrumental music for Randale's court but still > > >have the gift behind it? > To which Kory said, > > That was his Wild Talent. > > Yeah, but he also used his Talent influence on the courtiers, didn't > he? To make them see that Randi was in bad shape? That he didn't make > them wait on purpose? But isn't the question whether or not it works without using your voice? In Stef's case, it looks like it does. > Wintershard said... > > About that, a little. Are there any languages where the 'hello' salutation > > ~doesn't~ sound similar to hello? > > Well, AFAIK, the Japanese is Konnichiwa, and I don't know about German > for hello but my friends always use Guten Tag or just Tag on me... Russian: Zdravstvuytye (as best as can be rendered without the proper Cyrillic characters). When they answer the phone they usually just say their names, last name first i.e. Kaiser, Sa'ra (to paraphrase my Russian roommate, who is awfully handy for practicing my own very rusty Russian skills). But going with the Romance Language--actually Indo-European languages-- theory of similar "hello" forms, I seem to remember an exercise from a linguistics course that showed striking similarities not only in Hello, but in Yes (Ja, Da, Oui, Si, etc.) Cennydd? You must have volumes you can say about this stuff! > and also: > > On the same note (sorry :), how many of you like to sing Christmas carols? > > I was thinking of doing a tape of them sometime. I think my fav is between > > Silent Night and O holy Night. Anyone else? > > I LOVE Christmas carols! My favorites are those, Carol of the Bells, > and It Came Upon a Midnight Clear...at least this week! I'm about to shock you. I don't like Silent Night. I also don't like Amazing Grace too much either, and while I'm on the subject, I detest The Star Spangled Banner too (which is maybe not too surprising since the tune is an English drinking song...just imagine a tavern full of drunks trying to hit "And the rocket's red glare" and you can see what I mean). All time favorite Christmas Carol is God Rest Ye, Merry Gentlemen. Does the echoing silence I have received regarding my question mean that no one knows, or no one is bothering to answer? I'll pose it again. At the end of Arrow's Fall, Dirk and Talia are going to their rooms and they meet Elspeth, who was guarding the door against wedding jokes. She leaves, Talia looks after her and murmurs "'The Caring Heart'" and goes on to say that she'll make a good queen one day. It's obvious from the punctuation that she's quoting someone or something. But what? I don't see any sort of reference to it anywhere. Am I blind, stupid, or just ignorant and misinformed? Well, I am going blind, but it might be those other things too. Help! If I sound grouchy, I'm sorry. It's been a long day, my eyes are acting up again, it's the last week of classes here, and my moods always come out in my writing. Chocolate-almond sheep, all around. :) Hth, I enjoy your posts very much. I respect your decision to semi-lurk for a while, but consider that strong personalities are also needed to keep things moving and keep the discussion flowing. Don't go away for too long. 's e do bheatha, Kaatje ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 14:58:03 -0800 From: belrex To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Big ooppps Message-ID: <32A601FB.115-+AT+-ra.msstate.edu> I an sooo sorry for reposting those two messages. I work in a library on netscape and when i get off of netscape it erases all of my mail. I meant to resend then messages to myself so i could store them on my pine account. I didn't figure out what i had done until i had already sent two of the messages. I offer up golden companion statues to everyone i offended. Please forgive me. Smile, it confuses the heck out of people Belrex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 15:57:13 CST From: "Hth." To: Subject: Anthos Message-ID: <04DEC96.17229980.0099.MUSIC-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU> Heheh. Welcome in, Meg. Hai, we eat and sleep (though often at odd hours), and I think most of us student-types even attend class on occasion! God knows I don't anymore, but that's me. [Side note: someone mentioned Diana once saying "my God" or something, though she usually uses Lord & Lady or Lady Bright for exclaiming purposes. In my experience, that's not all that odd among pagans. After all, my God or God knows or whatever is so commonly heard that it seeps into your consciousness and becomes one of those phrases that sprinkle your speech without you really planning on it. It's like um or well or hitting people on the head with a board. Just part of the speech pattern.] So, does this mean you have a real, live copy of Sword & Sorceress 3? Lock your doors. There are people around here who would chew off their foot at the ankle to get a copy of that book. I, of course, have *all* the Sword & Sorceress books , but mine are safe. My guardian spirit is the Badger, and if you've ever seen the jaws on a badger, you won't run around trying to take their toys away in a hurry! (Native American lore also associates Badger, by virtue of the extremely large and powerful jaws, with the art of storytelling, and the power of the word. I learned that recently. I took it as a definite Good Thing for a writer.) BTW, I live in awe and envy of Jake, who has finally gotten a bead on that copy of Keepers of the Flame. Okay, now that the stars are in alignment: who's willing to sell me their Jody Lee print of Magic's Price??? I couldn't be more excited about the Valdemar antho. This is the first Misty-related book I've been hopping on one foot and breathlessly waiting for since...well, since the books that haven't been published, I guess. Arcanum 101 comes to mind, and Beyond the Wide World's End. Diana's one of my favorite characters, and it drives me just crazy that the Kory, Beth, and Eric relationship is left so muddled and unresolved at the end of Summoned to Tourney. I want to *know* if Kory stays or goes. I don't even care which anymore; I just want it settled. (Attention OAM and the LotPW: don't forget, Sword of Ice contains a rare glimpse of Vanyel during a pleasant and private moment, namely his relationship with Jonne, to whom he refers so affectionately at the beginning of MPromise as "the answer to his prayers." Mr. Shepherd promised me *details,* darlings.) Speaking of Mark Shepherd, I don't have many names for DragonCon yet, and I know there are more of you. When I'm communicating with the ConCom and with Misty, I really will want to know about how many people we're talking about. So, if you're going to DragonCon, and if you plan to hang out with us and come to our party and all, *please* drop me a line. I'm surprised to hear that some people don't like short stories. I personally love them, just because in a short format you have so much opportunity to play with the language, in ways that get quite tiresome at 350 pages. At the risk of making you believe I have no life (too late, I know), I keep a running database of short stories, filed under author's name, from the shelves of magazines and anthologies I have at home. This way, when I discover a new author, I can go back and answer that million dollar question: Where have I heard that name before? Just for grins, here are a few of my favorite short stories. Most of them appear in one of the Year's Best Fantasy & Horror anthologies, edited by Terri Windling and Ellen Datlow. The last two I read in a collection of Willis' stories called *Impossible Things,* and in Windling & Datlow's *Snow White, Blood Red* -- is that the title? Err, something like that. "England Underway" Terry Bisson (England begins to float around the world for no apparent reason. Very funny.) "The Woman in the Painting" Lisa Goldstein (Spooky.) "The Erl-King" Elizabeth Hand (Exquisite. Left me literally breathless.) "The Man in the Black Suit" Stephen King (Won a World Fantsy Award, or something else prestigious, can't recall quite what.) "Snow, Glass, Apples" Neil Gaiman (A Snow White story where the witch is the good guy.) "The Last of the Winnebagos" Connie Willis (Another award winner, not fantasy, set in the near future, in a world where all the dogs have died out.) "The Springfield Swans" Caroline Stevermer & Ryan Edmonds (Mixes the tale of the swan princes with a 30s-40s era small-town baseball team.) oh, and one more I forgot to factor in: from Tanith Lee's collection *Red as Blood,* the title story. It's also a bad-Snow-White good-stepmother story, but with vampires and angels. Anyway, all of that was totally unnecessary, but there we are. I've been writing short stories lately, and I always go back and read these, among others, to put me in the right frame of mind before I start a short story, kinda like I read *Firelord* and *Swordspoint* when I get stuck in my novel. HTH Wand-Sworn Champion to the Ladies of the Pink Wand Grand Dame of the Order of Amber and Marigold DragonCon Shepherd r618-+AT+-academic.truman.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:22:20 -0500 From: Shdwflt-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Hello / Dragon*Con / Misty Short Stories, etc. Message-ID: <961204172219_673714537-+AT+-emout20.mail.aol.com> Esmerelda wrote: >>re: heyla - well the spanish use hola, and I'm alwaysgetting my holas and heylas muddled << Wintershard replied: <> *grin* There's plenty.. *remembering his favorite Animaniacs song..* Zdratsvooitye (bad spelling, I know.. I don't have a Cyrillic keyboard) is it in Russian; Ni hoa in Chinese (?), Zravo in Macedonian, Aloha in Hawai'ian, Ya Su, Greece, Servus in Austrian, Namaste in Nepalese, Sabai De Roo in Thailand, U Hali Gani in Swahili.. *grin* plus more I can't remember off the top of my head. ----- 'Reesa *fainting.. .a post from 'Reesa!* wrote: << I'm going. *evil laughter* I've already volunteered my room for the filk circle, and the offer still holds.>> *Well, at least she didn't remember I volunteered her...* I is going to Dragon*Con too.. *grin* gots my room OFF the Party Floor, for sleeping. But I'll probably be in 'Reesa's all weekend anyway. *pouting about her description* You didn't mention ME! Heather HTH mentioned something about people mailing her about Dragon*Con, but I lost the post.. can someone fill me in privately over email about that? ----- Anyhow, on to serious Misty posts... 1 -- Someone asked about SKitty stories. Well, I've got a complete list of ALL of Misty's short stories here on the Magic FAQ in Progress disk, so if you want them, lets me know. 2 -- Digest 1000. Whoo hoo. Yay. Hooray. All that rot. <-- ObCelebration. Blessed Be, Jake -- Jake Adamo (Shdwflt-+AT+-aol.com) Mercedes Lackey Informational FAQ Administrator Vice-President, Staten Island Science Fiction and Fantasy Association "Honey, I have a confession to make... last night, while you were sleeping, I drugged you, made a plaster cast of your body.. and sold it to an inflatable doll company.." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:24:46 -0500 From: Hades16-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: I'm back/Farsight/Foresight Message-ID: <961204172444_939890836-+AT+-emout17.mail.aol.com> I have missed you all so much. (Sorry if I get a little emotional...I am listening to the Evita soundtrack which has that effect on me) In case you forgot, I am the Illegitimate God of Farfetched Theories and Misconstued Ideas. Wait! I don't remember whether or not I was approved by the Goddess of Nomenclature. If I wasn't I do apologize for my transgression, but I am pretty sure I was...maybe another one of my delusions. I could not resist the pull of this splendid little list. I would like for someone to clarigy Farsight for me. I know it is when you can see far away, hence the name. That particular Gift does not get much spotlight. I know that it was used by Ashke after Savil (also another contraversy...right spelling?) was killed. I am sorry if this was already discussed and I was either not paying attention or I was not there. Foresight, did anyone have it besides Ashke (who had just about anything but that is another controversy) His was not extrodanairy strong. The only thing I remember him using it for was his death (which is also another issue). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:29:35 -0500 (EST) From: Mat the Cat in Green To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: DragonCon Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Hth. wrote: Ack, meant to reply before, but the Tomes are hitting hard right now. Finals Ho! (1 week left before them) > So drop me a note if you're going. Tell me if you're going to be there > all weekend, or if not, how long you will be there. Tell me if you've > made hotel reservations, if you need a roommate(s), if you're willing to > acquire a roommate, and anything else you need that we might be able to > help you out with. Well, I'm going. As it stands, I'm rooming with Kerry. We don't have a room yet though. Haven't done any reservations. :) > (P.S. remember to include your real name if you don't go by it, as well > as your listname. I dislike the idea of making arrangements and not > really knowing for whom I'm making them. It's a quirk, I guess.) Well, I use my real name. If you really want, my full name is Mathew Timmerman. :) Mat Cat Person, Champion in Green, |"The blue rose, rare, one cannot Adept, God of Procrastination | gain, if glove or guard be worn. Heathen #???, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | 'Tis only when, one risks the pain, mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | of flesh against the thorn." http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ | --- Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 17:33:46 EST From: lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com (Michelle N Reis) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: MO Companion Message-ID: <19961204.163519.10686.0.Lightstorm-+AT+-juno.com> I'm sorry if this is a repeat of something anyone said. I took this out of MPromise. It explains what happens with the MO Companion's bond."Yfandes gueses that if she needs training, between the ages of 8 and 10. Remember, for the presumtive King's Own, that won't be a bonded Choosin--she won't bond until, until she gets the office. Then she'll bond with Taver." (pg 48) And the one Chosen doesn't seem pre-ordained. There are certain factors that are plusses in a Monarch's Own. When Chosen exhibit these qualities, they are considered for the position. Lightstorm, Lady of the Pink Wand, Dame of the Order of Amber and Marigold "Thought is barred in this City of Dreadful Joy and conversation is unknown."- Aldus Huxley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 17:38:17 -0500 From: Rose To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: caring heart Message-ID: <32A5FD59.31F6-+AT+-ctol.net> Kaatje wrote: >At the end of Arrow's Fall, Dirk and Talia are going to their rooms and >they meet Elspeth, who was guarding the door against wedding jokes. >She leaves, Talia looks after her and murmurs "'The Caring Heart'" and >goes on to say that she'll make a good queen one day. It's obvious >from the punctuation that she's quoting someone or something. But >what? I don't see any sort of reference to it anywhere. With the 'Caring Heart', I don't know where it came from exactly, but Talia could be reffering to Elspeth as the archytypical caring person. That could be why the quotes. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:42:01 -0600 From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Fiber Arts in Velgarth/Goddess of the Web Message-ID: >Kessira mused, >> Do we see much in the way of the "fiber arts" in Velgarth? There's >> the mending scenes in Arrows, (she means weaving, knitting, spinning ..) Talia was carding wool in AotQ. Kessira, don't forget the Shin'a'in weavers. And I feel pretty sure that there were professional weavers in Haven, in both an artistic and a functional capacity. And they'd be members of the Weaver's Guild. Lady Wyrist was the head, I believe. Shin'a'in also know about quilting-remember the clothes? Good luck being the Goddess of the Web; when I read that, I thought it was *really* cool. :-) Go Gently, Tresta %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Tresta shena Jor'ethan "Love must live free." Healer to horses -Shin'a'in Teaching Knight of Amber and Marigold %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "To be tired of horses is to be tired of life; horses are a gift to us." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:56:09 -0500 (EST) From: Mat the Cat in Green To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Oops Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Mat the Cat in Green wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Hth. wrote: > > Ack, meant to reply before, but the Tomes are hitting hard right now. > Finals Ho! (1 week left before them) Doh! Meant to reply to Heather alone on this. Oops. Mat Cat Person, Champion in Green, |"The blue rose, rare, one cannot Adept, God of Procrastination | gain, if glove or guard be worn. Heathen #???, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | 'Tis only when, one risks the pain, mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | of flesh against the thorn." http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ | --- Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:10:31 -0600 (CST) From: Katherine M Brielmaier To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: caring heart, language in Valdemar Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Rose wrote: > Kaatje wrote: > >At the end of Arrow's Fall, Dirk and Talia are going to their rooms and > >they meet Elspeth, who was guarding the door against wedding jokes. > >She leaves, Talia looks after her and murmurs "'The Caring Heart'" and > >goes on to say that she'll make a good queen one day. It's obvious > >from the punctuation that she's quoting someone or something. But > >what? I don't see any sort of reference to it anywhere. > > With the 'Caring Heart', I don't know where it came from exactly, but > Talia could be reffering to Elspeth as the archytypical caring person. > That could be why the quotes. I wondered if it couldn't be something like that. Or maybe that's what the names means, like how my formal name, Katherine, means "pure" in Greek (i heard that! no laughing! ;> ) So I thought maybe Elspeth would mean "the caring heart" in whatever Valdemar uses for its name-sources. Speaking of which, this opens up a whole new set of theoretical ideas. We don't know what Valdemaran sounds like, right? I mean, because ML obviously uses English to represent Valdemaran. We get a feel for the Rethwellan (lots of syllables, probably very smooth and musical sounding), and we see foreign phrases from the Shin'a'in and the Hawkbrothers and stuff like that. And the language of Karse is described as unusually beautiful "liquid gabble". But we don't get a clue about how Valdemaran might sound to outsiders, except for the names, which seem to be short and sort of abrupt and...non-musical, for lack of a better word. I mean, we get Talia, Kris, Dirk, Sherrill, Keren, Teren, Skif, Vanyel, Stefen, Savil, Elcarth, Elspeth, Kyril, Jadus...they all seem to run along those lines. The more flowing ones are Tylendel, Selenay, Orthallen, maybe Destria and a couple of others. So given that, maybe you can assume that Valdemaran would sound a bit choppy, with lots of consonants and syllables running around. (This is where you ask yourself: what is she babbling about, and why does she even *care* what Valdemaran sounds like? Silly Kaatje, it sounds like English!) Any other thoughts? There are few, if any, words we see that are non-English *and* Valdemaran. I can't think of any off the top of my head...anyone else? Good lord, two posts in one day? What is the world coming to? ;) 's e do bheatha, Kaatje ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1001 **********************************