MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1019

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) 
	by "Romylee A. Ejercito" <rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu>
  2) Firebird
	by chenchen-+AT+-rgs.edu.sg
  3) BDW/fluff/Gaiman/Tests/Mistys/
	by Deniz<dsarik-+AT+-po-box.mcgill.ca>
  4) GRE <fluff>
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  5) The chocoholic steps in
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  6) Kyree/Wyrsa
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  7) Braid: State of Grace/1st Misty/Sorry/Trek&Troi/Voyager/test
	by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
  8) Re: Gaiman/ Gifted/ Kyree/ cats and hertasi/ chocolate/ Troi
	by "Romylee A. Ejercito" <rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu>
  9) Reply to: chocolate
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
 10) Re: The chocoholic steps in
	by Ken Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 11) thanks/stuff/LotR/SoI/latent Gifts/lifebonds/white chocolate/etc
	by Mat the Cat in Green <mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>
 12) Birthday Greetings!
	by "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" <wayaadis-+AT+-inreach.com>

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:32:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "Romylee A. Ejercito" <rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961214031808.8051F-100000-+AT+-mail.wesleyan.edu>



	Ugh, I really should be studying for my finals (tithe to Mat).
But I got worn out in choir practice today (our concert's tomorrow night,
and we have rehearsals in the morning and in the afternoon.  My throat has
been sorely abused).  We stood for more than two hours, which I guess
isn't _that_ bad.  Unfortunately, I have a problem with my lower back.  I
slipped and fell when I was in fifth grade, and for a month after that,
everytime I bent over or straightened from a bent position, my tailbone
would ache.  And stupid idiot that I am, I didn't tell my mom about it.
Anyway, now it only hurts when I've been standing for far too long, or
when I'l trying to lift something heavy.  So after two hours of
singing....  /me winces and rubs her back, trying to get the aches to go
away.  I don't know how I'm going to stand it tomorrow, b/c I'll have to
wear heels and that's going to aggravate it.  *grimace*  

	Happy birthday to Nina, here's a stress sheep that magically takes
away your headaches, backaches, all aches when you squish it.

~~chocolate~~

>Ken: <snip>Or do you mean that nasty
white food product that passes for "white chocolate" but doesn't really
contain any cocoa products at all?  <snip>

Mylee: How come there are so many "chocolates" that aren't really
chocolate?  And the fake white chocolate must be what I've eaten.  How do
they make it white anyway?  Dark chocolate's the best, sweet and bitter.  

~~END~~
~~Miss Saigon~~

>Emily: <snip>And you expected (from the soundtrack!?) for Chris to be a
_good guy_?!?!? <total disbelief> 

Mylee: I listened to the soundtrack, I hated him.  But I've listened to it
for a long time, so I sort of got used to it, you know?  Then I watched it
and I hated him all over again.  He's a jerk.  

>Emily: <snip>I never really liked Ellen either, you think she could at
least have some feeling for Kim.<snip>

Mylee: Yeah.  I don't know whether she's just acting like a woman who
loves her husband dearly, or if she's a b*tch.  I never like Cosette
either, but that's prolly coz she got Marius (who was a wimp).  Miss
Saigon had several bits that were reminiscent of Les Mis. 
And I think Chris never married her, he just promised her that he would.
The Dju Vui Vai ceremony wasn't binding in US laws I think.  But that was
funny though, it was so obvious Chris had no idea what he was doing, and
that he didn't understand what was going on.

	Oh, I heard that Lea Salonga, who originally did Kim, is coming
back to reprise her role sometime next year.  I think I'd like to see it
again just to see how she'd do it.  

	Half the cast was Filipino or Filipino American (I figured from
the surnames), and I think almost all the Kims were Fil. or Fil-Am.  /me
grins proudly.  

~~END~~
~~Wrede~~

>>Mylee:  Love her.  I've got the whole Enchanted Forest Chronicles.  I
think Talking to Dragons is not as good as the others (Mendanbar's
def.better than Daystar).  There's also one more book, um, shoot, I can't
remember, and the book's 10,000 miles away.  I'll e-mail my sis and ask.

>Emily: I only found the one. Maybe one of the others will show up
there...

Mylee: You can get the four books from SFBC.  Searching for Dragons is the
best, IMO.  (This goes for you too Randi)

~~END~~
~~Gaiman~~

>Deniz: Yes, it's Neil Gaiman.  I absolutely LOVE his stuff.  <snip> I
still haven't finished "The Kindly Ones" arc, yet, because Winter forgot I
hadn't read them and didn't live near a comic store.  Can you imagine
Saudi customs (no pornography) letting in Sandman?  If you think so,
remember Doll's House, when Rose is talking with Morpheus.  About flying.

Mylee: I don't have the books, but my friend had them and I got hooked.
I'm just getting them now.  I have "The Kindly Ones" and I'm getting an
anthology of sorts written by people who love Sandman.  I _think_ Gaiman
edited it, I'm hoping it's good.  I love _Death_.  And yeah, I remember
Rose.  *grin*  I guess that would qualify as porn to some people.  

	You remember that panel with the Death and Dream as little kids?
I love that one.

~~END~~
~~Birdbrains~~

>Khenta: Birds have a differently (simpler, IIRC) structured brain than
mammals. They don't have as much grey matter<?> or neo-cortex<snip>
means that they don't have as much capacity to learn new behaviour
'cause they're running on instincts, mostly <snip> whereas mammals have
to learn most of their behaviour, being ruled by instincts to a lesser
extent than birds or reptiles.

Mylee:  Um, I haven't taken the neurobio class yet (I opted for immunology
for next sem), but I _think_ I read somewhere that bird brains are mostly
cerebellum, b/c they need it for coordination and flying, etc.  I think I
also read an article in Discover magazine that birds are smarter than we
think.  But a horse would def. be smarter than a bird, according to the
human definition of intelligence.

~~END~~
~~Guardians of the Flame~~

Aistes: What is wrong with the Gaurdians of the Flame.  <snip>

Mylee: Nothing.  I can't point out what's wrong, it just didn't grip me.
*shrug*  A matter of taste I suppose.

~~END~~
~~GREs~~

Oh yeah, on the SATs, well I may have gotten good Math scores, but I
almost flunked Calculus.  It just didn't make sense to me.  The only Math
I ever understood was geometry.  Geometry makes sense.  I basically have
problems with very abstract subjects.  I do okay in inorganic chemistry
and physics, horribly in math, and very well in biology.  If I can see a
practical application of the thing, or if it's tangible, I can understand
it.  The SATs were just algebra and some geom, which I understood very
well.  I also think that the SATs are mostly stuff you've learned over the
years.  You can't really study for it, it's something that has to have
been acquired gradually.  Having a large vocab helps of course.  

	So the GRE's are easier?  That's good to hear.  I'm hoping to get
either a scholarship or a hefty chunk of financial aid so I can go to
either grad school or med school, so I need to get a good score on my GREs
and my M-somethings.  

~~END~~
~~

	Uh-oh, I need an ObMisty....   Okay, um, Van had the potential for
the Gifts, right?  But it was blasted open, so he could use them.  So why
couldn't they open the channels of those who were Gifted when there were
so few Herald Mages left?  It doesn't have to get blasted, just opened.  

	Oh, here's another one about bondbirds.  I'm assuming
that the raptors are the "established breeds" and the corbies
(something Darkwind said about corbies barely being bred out of the wild
line) and firebirds are new lines.  So does that mean that the raptors are
smarter b/c they've been evolving that way for a long time?  And it's only
the Tayledras who have birds, right?  

	Why does Kethry say that the kyree are Pelagir creatures but it
says elsewhere that they were created by Urtho?  And how come the mountain
cats in SB were never mentioned before?  Is it just an afterthought or is
Misty planning something with them?  And what _is_ this trauma that the
hertasi got from the Cataclysm?  Or is it the Cataclysm itself that was
the trauma?  (if it's been DTD, sorry, just mail me privately with the
answers)


Mylee, who should be studying organic chem she's on the verge of flunking 
it, but is doing e-mail and Misty stuff instead


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M. Ejercito
rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu

	I have one of the most brilliant minds on earth...
		BUT EDUCATION RUINED IT!!!

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:03:58 -0800
From: chenchen-+AT+-rgs.edu.sg
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Firebird
Message-ID: <199612150403.UAA10223-+AT+-rgs.rgs.edu.sg>

>8. How's the feather jewelry?

I have seen the hair tong, (wildfire brought it to school for Windsong,
Wintersong and me to take a look) the Hawkbrother one, and it looks real
good. You should get it if you can afford it. 

Stormwind

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 96 10:42:18 -0500
From: Deniz<dsarik-+AT+-po-box.mcgill.ca>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: BDW/fluff/Gaiman/Tests/Mistys/
Message-ID: <199612141545.KAA25006-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA>


BIRTHDAYS, BIRTHDAYS, BIRTHDAYS!!!!!<-----(need I point 'em out?)

	2-DAY WARNING:  Our beloved "What She Said" Heather is turning 21 on 
	December 16th.  Get ready for a wonderful bash!

	3-DAY WARNING:  Our wonderful pointy-eared elf Korendil is turning 14 
	on December 17th.  Put on your gift caps!

I'd just like to say this is the last time this year I'm giving out Birthday 
Warnings.  I'm leaving on the 21st and won't be back 'till the 3rd and won't 
have internet access (much less e-mail), so I'll miss you all, and I'll give 
out gifts-in-advance to all of you people I'll miss... scrounge, scrounge... 5 
of you, eh?  No problem.

(#)%&$)(*&-+AT+-)*$_)*)!$#*%)(#&
Romylee wrote:
>	Ugh, I really should be studying for my finals (tithe to Mat).
>But I got worn out in choir practice today (our concert's tomorrow night,
>and we have rehearsals in the morning and in the afternoon.  My throat has
>been sorely abused).  We stood for more than two hours, which I guess
>isn't _that_ bad.  Unfortunately, I have a problem with my lower back.  I

The temple accepts the tithe, and decides to give out some advice, as well.  
Romylee, thy lower back is a treasure and a source of strength for thy body.  
Thou needs must treat it well, else thou risketh incurring it's displeasure, 
and such a thing, an it occur, bodes not well.  It is in the mind of this 
humble (hah!) Priestess that thou describe thy pains to an athletic trainer at 
thy school.  This one hopes that such an action will prove beneficial to thy 
continued health and happiness.

-+AT+-!)%&$)#&%)-+AT+-!*$#-+AT+-!_(_$*_)#& GAIMAN &)(!&%)$&!(_$(#_!$_+~!#$
>Mylee: I don't have the books, but my friend had them and I got hooked.
>I'm just getting them now.  I have "The Kindly Ones" and I'm getting an
>anthology of sorts written by people who love Sandman.  I _think_ Gaiman

What's it called?  I *think* I've heard of it, but I'm not sure.

>edited it, I'm hoping it's good.  I love _Death_.  And yeah, I remember
>Rose.  *grin*  I guess that would qualify as porn to some people.  
>
>	You remember that panel with the Death and Dream as little kids?
>I love that one.

L'il Death and L'il Dream!  Yes, Teleute is my favorite character.  I think my 
favorite single comic would be "The Sound of Her Wings"-- it's beautiful.

)&)$!&%)#$*)%(*)!*(_) STANDARDIZED TESTING )($(&*!)&)$#-+AT+-_(!_($!&)-+AT+-
Mylee:
>	So the GRE's are easier?  That's good to hear.  I'm hoping to get
>either a scholarship or a hefty chunk of financial aid so I can go to
>either grad school or med school, so I need to get a good score on my GREs
>and my M-somethings.  

MCAT's?

*$#-+AT+-!)(&%)$#%_(_!*_*&_*%_$#*&!)
Yup, it's Mylee:
>	Uh-oh, I need an ObMisty....   Okay, um, Van had the potential for
>the Gifts, right?  But it was blasted open, so he could use them.  So why
>couldn't they open the channels of those who were Gifted when there were
>so few Herald Mages left?  It doesn't have to get blasted, just opened.  

But he didn't *want* his gifts triggered.  The Heralds do have a reputation to 
uphold, you know.

>	Why does Kethry say that the kyree are Pelagir creatures but it
>says elsewhere that they were created by Urtho?  And how come the mountain

Where does it say they were created by Urtho?  I don't remember that...

>cats in SB were never mentioned before?  Is it just an afterthought or is
>Misty planning something with them?  And what _is_ this trauma that the
>hertasi got from the Cataclysm?  Or is it the Cataclysm itself that was
>the trauma?  (if it's been DTD, sorry, just mail me privately with the
>answers)

Are these spoilers?

Oh, and I'd like to make a quick apology to Brvaes.  Sorry.  There, that's 
over.

love,
Deniz Sarikaya, High Priestess of |"Perhaps today IS a good to die!"-- Worf
Procrastination, Holy Custodian of|"You told him about the statue?" -- Riker
the B-Day List, Dame of the OoAM, |"I'm a doctor, not a doorstop." -- EMH
and Demon of Deceitful Aliases.   |"Definitely not Swedish." -- Lily
      >dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA< >freakola-+AT+-geocities.com<
         >http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/9359/<

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:52:04 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: GRE <fluff>
Message-ID: <199612141754_MC1-D31-B828-+AT+-compuserve.com>


>Mylee:So the GRE's are easier?  That's good to hear.  I'm hoping to get
>either a scholarship or a hefty chunk of financial aid so I can go to
>either grad school or med school, so I need to get a good score on my GREs
>and my M-somethings.  

well, I dunno. Personally I thought the GRE was the SAT with a Logic
section thrown in (GRE has Math, Verbal, and Logic) I got basically
the same Math and Verbal scores on both SAT and GRE <660 each>,
but got a 790 on the Logic <everything is still scored out of 800>. 

Firemist

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:48:25 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: The chocoholic steps in
Message-ID: <199612141749_MC1-D35-7529-+AT+-compuserve.com>

>Ken: <snip>Or do you mean that nasty
>white food product that passes for "white chocolate" but doesn't 
>really contain any cocoa products at all?  <snip>

>Mylee: How come there are so many "chocolates" that aren't really
>chocolate?  And the fake white chocolate must be what I've eaten.  How 
>do they make it white anyway?  Dark chocolate's the best, sweet and bitter.  

ahhh, mylee <tsk, tsk> as goddess of made from scratch foods,
I have to have some passing familiarity with ingredients, and let me
tell you something: white chocolate NEVER has any cocoa in it. Ever. Which
is what dear Cenny was trying to tell you <g>It's made largely from sugar, 
cocoa butter <and you thought it was only good for lotion!> milk, and 
vanilla. Why is it called chocolate if it never has any cocoa in it? Maybe
they thought cocoa butter was close enough to cocoa to pass ::shrugs::
And I agree, chocolate with the highest cocoa percentage is the best
-> preferably around 60% <we're talking Lindt Dark, or Verkade Puur 
(which is unavailable in the U.S. since it is a Dutch brand)>

Firemist

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:03:58 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Kyree/Wyrsa
Message-ID: <199612141810_MC1-D37-5043-+AT+-compuserve.com>

>	Why does Kethry say that the kyree are Pelagir creatures but it
>says elsewhere that they were created by Urtho?  And how come the mountain

>Where does it say they were created by Urtho?  I don't remember that...

Urtho cannot have created the kyree because it says in SG that a mage
created the wyrsa as an analog to the kyree long before Ma'ar and Urtho
ever existed

textevd: SG p 269 HB Daw version
   "One of the old Adpets, before Ma'ar, made things to mimic kyree and
called them wyrsa .... Long before Ma'ar and the War."

which seems to imply that Urtho did not make them. the again, on p 200
it says "The makaar had been analogs of gryphons; had there been analogs
of hertasi, and kyree? the tervadi and dyheli were natural creatures..."
so that means the kyree were created, but not by whom. 

seems like misty either confused her notes again, or just isn't doing a proper
job of making things clear; anotherreason why these books should only be 
read for fun and not expect the world in ways of neat plot threads, etc.
Although she does do a better job then I do! <g>

Firemist

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:43:37 +0000
From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Braid: State of Grace/1st Misty/Sorry/Trek&Troi/Voyager/test
Message-ID: <199612150236.UAA12867-+AT+-cdale3.midwest.net>

Khenta wrote:
>>>Recently I was listening to Billy Joel's _Storm Front_ and I thought that
_State of Grace_ (partially, at least) kind of fitted for Van and Stef:

"Don't you see, you lived a different life than me
It doesn't mean you have to be afraid of how
We're not the same, don't leave me now

But darling there you go, slipping away
How can I get you to stay where you are
Keep you from going too far
Holding you here is so hard to do... I'm losing you"<<<

Duh! Why *didn't* I think of that? I knew that song fit in with Misty's
characters somewhere... The good thing about this song is that I think
what's quoted up there could fit either of them depending on the situation.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Khenta also wrote:
>>>1) What was the first book by Misty you ever read?<<<

The Oathbound. I loved it, and I was hooked. 

>>>2) What is your favourite Misty book?<<<

Hasta be either Magic's Pawn or Magic's Price. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sorry about that Pern crossover question -- I was in a hurry (and in a
furious rage because my buds are playing "Hello Dolly!" with me), and I
guess I skimmed over it since now I get my messages in digest mode.
Chocolate covered sheep, anyone?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kory wrote:
>>>grrr...well..was I right about Bev commanding?<<<

Lemesee... I think Riker was in command, because Bev was out by the sickbay
evacutating the people to safer places in the saucer section.

Mylee wrote:
>>>>Summersong: Pilot, as in helm. It's Deanna Troi. Think about it -- she
crashed the
Enterprise on her first turn at the helm. Hee-hee.

Mylee: Hey!  I _like_ Troi!  Some of my fave episodes are those where
she's given a real role, not the girly roles she ends up playing.  I think
Troi could have been done so much better, if she was given more
"Troi-as-Starfleet-officer" instead of all those Troi-as-gorgeous-babe"
roles.  <<<

I didn't mean that I didn't like her! When I saw that scene right after I
watched "Clueless", Troi's turn at the helm reminded me of that driving
test scene, so I couldn't resist mentioning it. Methinks that you don't
know me as well as you think you do -- I love every cast member of TNG
(yes, even Worf, Mat!), and I was glad Troi got to be more than a Barbie
doll. I just couldn't help making that summarization focusing on Troi. I'm
sorry if I offended you, but Couselor (Commander) Deanna Troi is one of my
favorite characters. 
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Jake wrote:
>>>Just as long as PENPAL GREETINGS! doesn't give me a virus like the macrovirus
from Voyager this week.. *shudder*  but *slurp* to Kate Mulgrew in the
Alien-esque outfit!  And the phaser FN-FAR-esque rifle.. yum.<<<

I *knew* someone was going to say that! I almost killed my brother for
saying "Is that Rambo in drag?" But that was a fabuloso episode, and she
looks a lot tougher than Lois Lane is supposed to be. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I
DON'T LIKE LOIS LANE FROM LOIS & CLARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you.
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My turn to brag on SAT/ACT scores: My last time at the ACT (October of this
year), I got a 30 composite, 34 Reading Comprehension, 32 Math, 29 English,
and 26 Science Reasoning. That's pretty darned good, even if I were a high
school senior. On my SAT, I had 720 on Math, 710 Verbal the first time I
took it (last year -- I was 14). But this time around, I didn't do as well
-- 690 Math, 640 Verbal. 
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All right, people. Bad news. I'm majorly pissed at my so-called "best
friend" right now, and I don't want to snap at anyone and create a flame
war -- in other words, I'll be lurking until this passes over. Will someone
please take over the Data-ogling duty <g>?

BTW, the new Reba CD rocks!!!!!!!

Love and Logic,
Summersong & Spiffy the Cat
************************************************
Akiko Hirao <myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net>
"There wouldn't be a sky if the dreams we've been given
weren't supposed to fly" -- "State of Grace" by Reba McEntire
from the album _What If It's You_
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:04:37 -0500 (EST)
From: "Romylee A. Ejercito" <rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Gaiman/ Gifted/ Kyree/ cats and hertasi/ chocolate/ Troi
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961214230044.23572D-100000-+AT+-mail.wesleyan.edu>



	Yep, procrastinating again.  It's what I do best.  *grin*  Wow,
only 19 messages today, I
usually get at least thrice as much.  Are people unsubbed for the
holidays?  Or is it final exams that's behind the dearth of messages? Oh
hey, is saying "thrice" funny? Everyone I know laughs
when I say it, coz they say no one says it anymore.  Is it _that_ archaic?

	My mind is wandering.  Well, I just came in from the concert
choir.  Why is that formal
occasions require women to wear heels?  /me rubs her aching feet.  There
is nothing worse than
standing for hours while wearing heels.  My feet hurt, my back hurts, and
tomorrow, I get to hurt
all over again!  The orchestra was very good though, and most of our songs
were good, except for
a couple of pieces that we hadn't practiced as much as the others.

	Feliz cumpleanos a Heather y Korendil.  For Heather, here are
heels that change to
whatever color you want them to, so they match whatever you're wearing.
These shoes also have
a built in massage thingie that rubs your feet while you're standing and
wearing them, and your
feet will never hurt in these.  To Kory, a thin, transparent ski mask that
keeps your face (and
pointy ears) warm but allows you to see and be seen.

	Oh yeah, sorry about last night's post.  I forgot to put the title
in.  BAA!


~~Gaiman~~

>>Mylee: <snip>I'm getting an anthology of sorts written by people who
love Sandman.  <snip>

>Deniz: What's it called?  I *think* I've heard of it, but I'm not sure.

Mylee: "The Book of Dreams," I think.  I'll tell you if it's worth it.  :)

>Deniz: I think my favorite single comic would be "The Sound of Her
Wings"-- it's beautiful.

Mylee: Is that the one where they show her getting the souls of people who
were going to die?  I'm
really bad at remembering titles.  If that's the one, then yeah, I love
that.  I think it must've been
painful for her to have to "collect" Dream's soul.

~~END~~
~~Gifted~~

>>Mylee: <snip>So why couldn't they open the channels of those who were
Gifted when there
were so few Herald Mages left?  It doesn't have to get blasted, just
opened.

>Deniz: But he didn't *want* his gifts triggered.  The Heralds do have a
reputation to uphold, you
know.

Mylee: Oh, I didn't mean Van.  I mean, yes, but, he was my example and I
was thinking of others,
and....  Um, wait, that sentence just did _not_ make sense.  Okay, um, Van
shows us that people
with mage potential can become mages if the channels are opened.  I'm sure
there must've been
other Heralds with the potential.  So why couldn't their channels be
opened by the other mages so
that there would be more HMs?  I'm sure that at least some of them would
be willing to have it
opened, if it's for the good of Valdemar.

~~END~~
~~Kyree~~

>>Mylee: Why does Kethry say that the kyree are Pelagir creatures but it
says elsewhere that
they were created by Urtho?  <snip>

>Deniz: Where does it say they were created by Urtho?  I don't remember
that...

>Firemist: Urtho cannot have created the kyree because it says in SG that
a mage created the
wyrsa as an analog to the kyree long before Ma'ar and Urtho ever existed

Mylee: Oh, okay.  :)  I haven't read SG yet (still waiting for SFBC to
send me my copy).  Maybe I
just assumed that they were created by Urtho b/c they were in Urtho's
camp.

~~END~~
~~cats and hertasi~~

>>Mylee: cats in SB were never mentioned before?  Is it just an
afterthought or is Misty planning
something with them?  And what _is_ this trauma that the hertasi got from
the Cataclysm?  Or is it
the Cataclysm itself that was the trauma?

>Deniz: Are these spoilers?

 Mylee: Erm....  The cats in SB thing, maybe.  But all it did was mention
that they existed, they
weren't in the story or anything.  And the trauma thing, I think it's in
Winds or in SW or SR.
Something about the hertasi being timid because they were traumatized
during the original
Cataclysm.  I was just wondering what did it, if it was the magestorms, or
if it was b/c Urtho died,
or whatever.

~~END~~
~~Chocolate~~

>Firemist: <snip>white chocolate NEVER has any cocoa in it. Ever.

Mylee: Then why the heck do they call it chocolate????  The manufacturers
lie!!!  (oh gee, big
surprise)  Cocoa butter is NO substitute for cocoa.  Where's the caffeine?
The flavor?  Sorry if
that was what Cen was saying, and I didn't understand.  What can I say?
I'm dense, really, you
can ask my friends and they'll all say yes.  :)

>Firemist: And I agree, chocolate with the highest cocoa percentage is the
best preferably around
60% we're talking Lindt Dark, or Verkade Puur <snip>

Mylee: Lindt, ummmmm....  I'm hallucinating about chocolate now.

~~END~~
~~Troi~~

>Summersong: I didn't mean that I didn't like her! <snip> Methinks that
you don't know me as well
as you think you do -- I love every cast member of TNG (yes, even Worf,
Mat!), and I was glad
Troi got to be more than a Barbie doll. I just couldn't help making that
summarization focusing on
Troi. I'm sorry if I offended you, but Couselor (Commander) Deanna Troi is
one of my favorite
characters.

Mylee:  Oh no!!!  It takes much much more than that to offend me.  I just
thought you were
laughing at her, and I felt obligated to defend her.  *grin*  I love the
TNG crew too, although I
prefer Picard, Troi, Dr. Crusher, Data and Worf.  I don't like Riker and
Geordi too much.  The
Worf-Troi relationship thing is inconsistent with what they said about
Klingons in earlier seasons,
so it's kinda funny.  Also, I never found "Imzadi" (P. David) as wonderful
after that relationship
developed.



Mylee, whose voice now sounds like a croak
rejercito-+AT+-wesleyan.edu
http://www.dragonfire.net/~kaiserina




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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:52:43 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: Reply to: chocolate
Message-ID: <199612142352_MC1-D17-BB1-+AT+-compuserve.com>

>Firemist: <snip>white chocolate NEVER has any cocoa in it. Ever.

>Mylee: Then why the heck do they call it chocolate????  The manufacturers
>lie!!!  (oh gee, big surprise)  Cocoa butter is NO substitute for cocoa.  Where's >the caffeine?

firemist <again: no caffeine; that's why Kory could have white-chocolate
covered strawberries in KoGaS <at least, I *think* that's the one
where the Trio go to the Faire...>

>mylee con'td': The flavor?  Sorry if that was what Cen was saying, and I 
>didn't understand.  What can I say? I'm dense, really, you can ask my
>friends and they'll all say yes.  :)

gee, does that mean you don't float well? <ducks/sheeps/kittens/other
livestock & rlh>

Firemist

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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:10:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: The chocoholic steps in
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961215010228.24790A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote:

> ahhh, mylee <tsk, tsk> as goddess of made from scratch foods,
> I have to have some passing familiarity with ingredients, and let me
> tell you something: white chocolate NEVER has any cocoa in it.

Tsk, tsk, Firemist, I expect better of thee.  Of course, real white
chocolate has cocoa products in it, the cocoa butter in it is the same as
in "real" chocolate and is what gives genuine white chocolate its
haunting, delicate chocolate flavor.  The color and intensity difference
is due to the fact that white chocolate doesn't have any "chocolate mass,"
the dark heavily-flavored solid extract of the cacao bean.  While I
certainly love dark and milk versions of chocolate, I have to admit to a
profound preference for white chocolate (the real stuff).  My main
question (and warning) for Mylee was that if thou art allergic to cocoa
products, thou must needs be wary of white chocolate too, since sooner or
later thou wilt no doubt be offered the real stuff, which contains at
least as much cocoa butter as its darker cousins.  For someone who is
highly allergic, this could have drastic results.

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me

**http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html or .../kenny/green.silences.html**


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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:18:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Mat the Cat in Green <mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: thanks/stuff/LotR/SoI/latent Gifts/lifebonds/white chocolate/etc
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.961215003818.1951A-100000-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>

Ah, I'm procrastinating from the Mighty Tomes and hiding from the Spectres
of Finals.  Not to mention the multiple Research Paper dragons.  

==========================================================================
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 Shdwflt-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> THE WIZARD OF SPEED AND TIME was a low-budget sci-fi/fantasy film of the
> 80's, I believe, available on video. Now, where is Microsoft Cinemania..
> *click click* Here we go:

Thank you Jake.  That had been bothering me. :)

========================================================================
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Kaatje wrote:

> Certainly does--speaking of which, we've got that going on right now, and 
> they've been showing Riverdance concerts!!  

I've never seen them myself, but I did see a Riverdance video on the shelf
in a video store in the mall yesterday.

> Sam is my favorite character in all of Fantasy.  And you're right, he was 
> truly a Perfectly Ordinary person, with nothing but the clothes on his 
> back (well, he was Ringbearer for a little while, but not long enough for 
> it to do anything to him).  There is nobody like him.

You know, once I use up my to-be-read stack, I should reread LotR again.
I haven't done it in over a year or two, and the details are beginning to
fade.

> There's something about Tolkien's world that is so...bleak.  So 
> empty.  I visualize it all in muted watercolor tones, drifted in fallen 
> leaves and thin sunlight.  And in the end, even though the war is won, 

Funny.  I have this LotR poster that I found in the campus bookstore last
year, and it's done all in tones of brown.  Kind Thomas Canty-ish
actually.  Although the characters all look old, thin and decrepit. (Sam
looks like he's on his way to Gollum-hood.)  It's a pretty cool poster,
and the color(s) really capture the bleakness for me. :)

============================================================================
On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote:

> Misty? or Rose? somewhere/sometime/someone said that Misty
> is an electrical engineer, so she should *know* these things. She'd
> have been *much* better of saying "just as electricity won't flow through
> WOOD or DIRT," after all, even Rose would have known that...

I don't think she's an EE.  She was a computer programmer at one time
though.

=============================================================================
On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, JAIME HATHAWAY wrote:

> You can order, and 
> they even have books that haven't been released that you can be put 
> on the waiting list for, inc. the Valdemar anthology that'll be 
> released soon.  You can search by author, title, keyword, subject.  

Hmm.  This hasn't been anounced to the list-at-large.  The Bookstore
Queen, the Bibliomancer of the Ladies of the Pink Wand has revealed
that _Sword of Ice_ is out!  She already has it.    Of course, I had
no luck finding it in Barnes and Noble today. :(

=============================================================================
On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Chris & Sean Talbot wrote:

I said:
> >The Guardians of the Flame series, by Joel Rosenberg.  I liked them when I
> >first read them, but I can't stand to reread them.  Ick.
> What is wrong with the Gaurdians of the Flame.  There is also a 7th book out
> now by him for the that series and has been out for quite some time the name
> is "The Road Home"  I believe that is the title.

I dunno.  They seem to generic or something.  I can't really explain it.
I really liked them when I read them the first time (I have up until
_The Road to Ehvanor_), but when I tried to reread them, I got totally
stuck.  Just couldn't get into them.  <shrug>

==========================================================================
On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Romylee A. Ejercito wrote:

> 	Uh-oh, I need an ObMisty....   Okay, um, Van had the potential for
> the Gifts, right?  But it was blasted open, so he could use them.  So why
> couldn't they open the channels of those who were Gifted when there were
> so few Herald Mages left?  It doesn't have to get blasted, just opened.  

The problem is that they don't know *how* to do it.  Savil says so
somewhere in MPawn.  The thing with Van was a freak accident caused
by Savil shutting down Tylendel's Gate.  It seems that the only reason
it did what it did was the lifebond.  So, even if they could repeat
the accident (which I doubt they could), I doubt that they would.
And they probably can't do it without the accident.  

Oh, something that's bothered me about MPawn for a while, but I keep
forgetting to mention.  (Hmm.  Should have saved this for an obMisty.
Oh well.)  The formation of lifebonds seem to be different in MPawn
than in all the other books.  According to MPawn:

MPawn, p234-5
"	'Gods!' he [Andrel] looked up from his plate with the expression of a
stunned sheep. [me: wow, I never noticed that sheep reference before!]
'Vanyel and Tylendel--*lifebonded*?'[emphasis Misty's]
	She [Savil] nodded unhappily.  'I'm pretty damn sure of it; what's
more, so are Mardic and Donni, and if anyone would recognize a bonding,
it would be another bonded pair.'"

So, that's the proof that they were bonded.  But earlier:

p185.
"	Tylendel nodded.  'So I think we're linking.  I think it happened
sometime between when I started the fit and when I came out of the
backlash coma.'"

It's odd.  Always before, we're told that lifebonding is at first sight.
But here, 'Lendel says that it's only after Staven dies that they
lifebond.  Do you think that maybe they were bonded before, but it was
just inactive?  Or did it happen when they think it did?
(<g>  I needn't have included the first quote.  It's just that I thought
that the second was part of the first.  I realized after I'd typed the
whole first part that I was thinking of another quote.  So I left it.
The more textevd, the merrier. :) )


> 	Yep, procrastinating again.  It's what I do best.  *grin*  Wow,

Ah, thou art a most devout worshiper Mine Acolyte. :)

(hijaking from Mylee's post since I accidently deleted the original)
> >Firemist: <snip>white chocolate NEVER has any cocoa in it. Ever.

Wait a sec Mist.  I think Cenny was saying (and seems to be wrong!  Wow.
<g> ) that white chocolate (is that anything like a White Coconut? <g>)
_does_ have chocolate in it.  That's why he asked how Mylee could still
eat it.  I guess that you're just shocked by Cen being wrong for once. <g>

> as you think you do -- I love every cast member of TNG (yes, even Worf,
> Mat!), and I was glad

Bleh.


Mat
Cat Person, Champion in Green,     |"Hey diddle-dee, answer me this riddle,
Adept, God of Procrastination      | hey diddle-do, tell me what you will.
Heathen #149, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | Dance all day with the Cat and the
mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu         | Fiddle. Come and lay with the Heather
http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/  | on the hill"   --- Heather Alexander


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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:12:28 -0800
From: "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" <wayaadis-+AT+-inreach.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Birthday Greetings!
Message-ID: <32B3A4DC.7BEE-+AT+-inreach.com>

Deniz wrote:
> 
> BIRTHDAYS, BIRTHDAYS, BIRTHDAYS!!!!!<-----(need I point 'em out?)
> 
>         2-DAY WARNING:  Our beloved "What She Said" Heather is turning 21 on
>         December 16th.  Get ready for a wonderful bash!
> 
>         3-DAY WARNING:  Our wonderful pointy-eared elf Korendil is turning 14
>         on December 17th.  Put on your gift caps!
> 
Birthday greetings to Heather and Korendil, hope everything goes well :)

Wind to thy Wings,
Kerowynn k'Sheyna
Warrior mage of Clan Woad
http://www.owo.com/uo.html

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