MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1029 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Grandmother by Brian Bennett 2) I'm still here! by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 3) Yeah, I'm still here...at least, I THINK so... by Jeff Pugh 4) Braid: MZB's Best of Fantasy/Trek Fluff/Happy Holidays! by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 5) Re: Braid: MZB's Best of Fantasy by mishi 6) Re: Grandmother by Eleonora 7) DT/SoI by "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" 8) Re: Grandmother by Chris & Sean Talbot 9) Rambling Braid with Lots O'Stuff by tygriss-+AT+-juno.com (Sara A Youngblood) 10) hug/CotN/Burning Water/fluff-n-mush by "Dan McEndree" 11) Bday warning + Re: Rambling Braid with Lots O'Stuff by Eleonora 12) B-day gift to Aistes/thanx by tygriss-+AT+-juno.com (Sara A Youngblood) 13) Re: SERRAted Edge, Darkover, DT Books by Empress100-+AT+-aol.com 14) Re: B-day gift to Aistes/thanx by Eleonora 15) Assorted thingys by LCM46-+AT+-aol.com 16) Re: I'm still here!!!!!/Oathbound by "Adrianne" 17) by "Khenta B./ Birgit Hanel" 18) Re: Grandmother by Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com 19) SERRAted Edge/L&W by singer-+AT+-iglobal.net 20) Holidays & Birthdays by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) 21) Re: B-day gift to Aistes/thanx by Chris & Sean Talbot 22) Re: Assorted thingys by Chris & Sean Talbot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:15:09 -0800 From: Brian Bennett To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Grandmother Message-ID: <32BDA4DD.654-+AT+-erinet.com> > Personally, this will be my most difficult Xmas ever, since it will be > the first after my grandmother's death. We always spent these > festivities with my grandparents, and she always gave us the handknit > pieces she had made for each of us along the year. This will also be my first Xmas without my grandmother. She died a little over a month ago of a massive heart attack. We were pretty close because grandma lived with my mom and I for 18 years. My grandma also made hand knit pieces and one of my best memories is of her sitting on the couch crocheting like crazy and talking to me. I'm sorry for your loss and will pray for you. Brian Bennett aka Shadow Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:09:04 -0500 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: I'm still here! Message-ID: <961222130903_1788326582-+AT+-emout03.mail.aol.com> Hello everyone! I'll be here all week, 'cause I've got it off from school. Hahaha! You'll never escape! Okay, enough of that. Guess what? I acutally have some Misty stuff! Okay, one of my best friends got me _Lark and the Wren_ for Christmas. I think it's that one. First Bardic Voices one. How is it? What does everyone think? No spoilers though please! Second. My sister and I were flipping through Storm Warning, and we found something pretty weird. I think it's chapter 4 that has the picture of Karal? Okay, who do you think he looks like? Why do I ask? Because we both think he looks like Mulder from X-Files! A younger Mulder, but still him. Who agrees/disagrees? Kory, are you getting my e-mails? I wrote you two, and haven't gotten a reply. Are you even around any more? Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all! Lady Silvermoon LIG, Leader of the DDMF, Dame of the OAM, LotPW, Goddess of Sensitivity "Do you feel the way you hate? Do you hate the way you feel?" Bush, "Greedy Fly" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:57:40 -0800 From: Jeff Pugh To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Yeah, I'm still here...at least, I THINK so... Message-ID: <32BDBCE4.5FE7-+AT+-inter-linc.com> Heyla yall, and a really really trippy holiday season to all of yas! I just wanted to say that I'm still here too, and will be the whole time. I don't think I've said anything for...*egad* MONTHS, so I'm probably behind, but, yall don't mind...do ya? *grYn* Okay, that's it for now...Later!! -- ___________________________________________________________ | | | | ~ÁmpC-+AT+-t~ | "open doors, oh I walk inside, | |Acolyte of Music And Song| close my eyes, find my place to| | pgpugh-+AT+-inter-linc.com | hide, and I shake as I take it | | | in, let the show begin..." | | | "The House That Jack Built" | | | ~Mettalica | |_________________________|________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:19:45 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Braid: MZB's Best of Fantasy/Trek Fluff/Happy Holidays! Message-ID: <199612222112.PAA07257-+AT+-cdale3.midwest.net> Mishi wrote: >>>I would love to talk about the Serrated Edge books but I haven't read any of them. I would also like to talk about Di books but I have only read Jinx High and a cpuple of short stories in Marion Zimmer Bradley's best of Fantasy Magazine (or somesuch title) books.<<< Okay... I've a tiny bit of a question: Are the books in the series Best of MZB's Fantasy Magazine still in print? I went to Barnes & Noble the other day, and they didn't have it. Nor did they have many Darkover books. Are all of them still in print? Did Michael Whelan do the cover for Stormqueen? Is that book good? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TREK FLUFF ALERT! DS9 SPOILER I just got done watching the episode where Worf and Dax hook up. I taped it when it was first on, but I didn't get a chance to watch it until now. It was a bit disappointing, I think, for a crucial episode like that. Couldn't they have put the sexual tension between Miles and Kira in some other episode? I mean, it seemed out of place in the episode about Quark's Klingon ex-wife, Worf having a crush on Quark's ex-wife, and Dax resolving the crush by being the agressor in the Klingon mating ritual thingy with Worf. It was baffling at most, mainly because I always wish they'd put subtitles in English like they did in the Trek movies. (you can tell I'm desperate for conversation -- everyone's gone!). End DS9 spoiler End Trek Fluff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing to talk about! This sucks! Oh well, anyway, I'd like to wish everyone a happy holiday season, don't eat too much, don't get sick, do have fun, start watching Star Trek, keep grandma out of the reindeer's way, etc. Bye! Love & Logic, Summersong & Spiffy the Cat ************************************** Akiko Hirao "I am *not* jumping twenty stories in a skirt with ratty panties on!" --Doris from "The Owl and the Pussycat" by Bill Manhoff ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:52:41 -0500 From: mishi To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid: MZB's Best of Fantasy Message-ID: <32BDBBB9.30E0-+AT+-mail.ptdprolog.net> miyako hirao wrote: > > Mishi wrote: > >>>I would love to talk about the Serrated Edge books but I haven't read > any of them. I would also like to talk about Di books but I have only > read Jinx High and a cpuple of short stories in Marion Zimmer Bradley's > best of Fantasy Magazine (or somesuch title) books.<<< > > Okay... I've a tiny bit of a question: Are the books in the series Best of > MZB's Fantasy Magazine still in print? I went to Barnes & Noble the other > day, and they didn't have it. Nor did they have many Darkover books. Are > all of them still in print? Did Michael Whelan do the cover for Stormqueen? > Is that book good? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't think they are. Not the ones I have anyway. I picked them up at a used book store. If I see any around I'll let you know, ok. I've seen some of the Darkover books around but I don't remember if it was at the used bookstore or Waldens. I'm not sure who did the cover but I thought the book was good I borrowed it off of a friend. I read it a while ago so I don't remember much about it. Love, luck and lollipops Mishi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:51:21 -0300 From: Eleonora To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <32BDBB68.6C32-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy> Brian Bennett aka Shadow Wolf wrote: > This will also be my first Xmas without my grandmother. She died a little over a > month ago of a massive heart attack. We were pretty close because grandma lived with > my mom and I for 18 years. My grandma also made hand knit pieces and one of my best > memories is of her sitting on the couch crocheting like crazy and talking to me. > I'm sorry for your loss and will pray for you. > I am sorry for you loss too, and will add my prayers so that you and all those of us who have experienced loss can somehow find comfort in the upcoming festivities and beyond. I have a psychic friend who says that the spiritual and energy link with our loved ones is not severed at death and that only teh physical contact is lacking. Looking deep inside myself I have found this to be true. I do not experience the emptiness I would have thought I would. However, when memories come haunting me at night, I cannot stop myself crying. But I know they do not want us to cry, so I try not to. I will email you privately later but I thought I would share parts of a song by one of our pop singers with all of you. It goes something like this: Si me voy antes que vos, si es asi que esta dispuesto, quiero que tus noticias hablen del aire y del sol Si me voy antes que vos y visito tu silencio no temas a la noche que en la noche vivo yo Quiero decirte mi amor, lo que dijimos un dia, y es que la vida misma es un milagro de amor Quiero que sepas mi bien en estas dulces palabras, que cada vez que te ries rio contigo mi amor y cada vez que llores lo sabra mi corazon In English that would be: If I leave before you, if that is how it was meant to be, I want news of you to talk about the air and the sun If I leave before you, and come visit your silences don't be afraid of the night, because that is where I dwell I want to tell you my love, what we said one day, that life itself is a miracle of love. I want you to know my love, in these sweet words, that every time you laugh, I laugh with you, my love and each time you cry my heart will know This song was released a short time after Abueli's death and I try to live by those words. They seem to help. Thought they might help you too. Love, Ele ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:56:49 -0800 From: "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: DT/SoI Message-ID: <32BDBCB1.4ED0-+AT+-inreach.com> The DT book CoTN, was a very good book, I liked it. It isn't one of the best vampire books (my fav being House of Cain, just drew a blank on the author's name) but CoTN was very good for being Misty's first (right?) vampire novel, even though they are a different type of vampire (not gonna spoil anything *grin*). I love vampire books along with the Valdemar series and Star Wars (those by Kahn/Zahn). ----* |___________________________________________________ +-+AT+-XXXXXXXXXXX-+AT+-___________________________________________________ > | ----* SoI question. Where can it be found?!? I went to Walden Books and BDalton yesterday looking for it and couldn't find it. Any suggestions?? Zhai'helleva and Happy Holidays to you all, Kerowynn k'Sheyna Clan Woad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:58:37 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <199612222258.RAA12856-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 06:29 PM 12/22/96 GMT, you wrote: >> Personally, this will be my most difficult Xmas ever, since it will be >> the first after my grandmother's death. We always spent these >> festivities with my grandparents, and she always gave us the handknit >> pieces she had made for each of us along the year. > >This will also be my first Xmas without my grandmother. She died a little over a month >ago of a massive heart attack. We were pretty close because grandma lived with my mom >and I for 18 years. My grandma also made hand knit pieces and one of my best memories is >of her sitting on the couch crocheting like crazy and talking to me. > >I'm sorry for your loss and will pray for you. > >Brian Bennett aka Shadow Wolf > > I also found it hard and very saddening Last Christmas. My Grandmother was sick all through Christmas almost three years ago. She died right after Christmas with not being able to see me at my birthday or even open any gifts. The Christmas after they die was the hardest because you couldn't see them anymore and whenever you went to see other family there was a void. I lost my grandmother to Diabetes. So I know how hard it is to be going to my uncles and not going to see her. Sorry to hear about your loss. It will get better over time though. It will just take a while. Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:59:18 EST From: tygriss-+AT+-juno.com (Sara A Youngblood) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Rambling Braid with Lots O'Stuff Message-ID: <19961222.185740.5127.3.Tygriss-+AT+-juno.com> Okay, this is going to be sort of a stream of consciousness-like braid. Bear with me.... [[[[[[[[[[[HUGS]]]]]]]]] to Ele re: her grandmother. I know you'll miss her a lot and we're hear for you. I've noticed that a lot of us have lost loved ones around X-mas time, usually to cancer. Strange, huh? Continuing the death thread momentarily, did anyone else read about Carl Sagan dying? My mom said something about it last week but I didn't believe her. Okay, talk about no life: I put all my home-made videos in order and made a master list of what on each of them. Top that! And I won't be going to Dragon*Con because I never have any money. Still unemployed and now there's a problem with me registering for the spring semester and I may have to forgo school this spring. *Sigh* One step forward and three back... My 29" TV quit working yesterday and I had to dig out my little 9". Ugh. And in the process of putting the big one away until it's fixed, I smashed the hell out of my pinkie finger on my left hand. I can't bend it too well; I think it's cracked because I heard a crunch when I smashed it. Didn't scream or cry but did get mad. Bet your wondering how I'm typing? Very carefully. ;) We had an early-Xmas at my stepgrandparents house. It was okay, for seeing a bunch of strangers who barely even spoke to me. That was all right; I had taken a book with me. _Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil_ by John Berendt. Very good, too. The characters are hilarious. It was really cold here last week, about -10 below. But today it warmed up to about 55 degrees! And people wonder why they keep getting sick. Arkansas has warped weather. If you don't like it, stay; it will change. I finished _Outlander_ and am anxious to get to the other Claire/Jamie books. But have to wait for the library to open tomorrow. Waaaaahhhh! What will I read tonight? David wrote about the SERRAted Edge series. I really enjoyed them. Sometimes I get stagnated on fantasy and need a different dose of reality and those books and the DT books do that for me. CotN is my favorite and was the 2nd (I think) book I read of Misty's. I didn't particularly care for Burning Water and kind of wondered why I looked for it so hard. Oh, well. Is there anyone else like me that has a terrible habit of starting the second book in a trilogy and then finding out it's a trilogy and start to get totally pissed when you can't find the first book? That was me and the DT series. And the Soulsmith trilogy by Dietz. And AM's Dragonriders. And... Gonna sign off for now. No official ObMisty since there's not much traffic and not much brain to think one up anyhoo. Tygriss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:45:25 -0600 From: "Dan McEndree" To: Subject: hug/CotN/Burning Water/fluff-n-mush Message-ID: <199612230148.TAA11679-+AT+-esper.jc.net> Tygriss, You are such a great giver of hugs, but it seems like you could use one too. Remeber, things always work out in the end (employment, school, t.v., etc.)<<<<<>>>>>>>. Children of the Night is one of the best vampire/witch novels out there. I admit, it doesn't require a lot of thought, but it is great escape reading. Burning Water, on the other hand, is a book I could have done with or without. It has some great characters but at times seemed too slow. Finally, as you can tell I am still here, I probably won't write that much (like I ever do), but if something just screams for my opinion, you'll definitely hear from me. I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday (whichever it may be) And to those out there who had a personal loss (recent or otherwise) remember, as long as you have friends, you are never truly alone. Blessed Be and Best Wishes, Danyel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:40:34 -0300 From: Eleonora To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Bday warning + Re: Rambling Braid with Lots O'Stuff Message-ID: <32BDF122.658E-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy> Sara A Youngblood wrote: > [[[[[[[[[[[HUGS]]]]]]]]] to Ele re: her grandmother. I know you'll miss > her a lot and we're hear for you. I've noticed that a lot of us have > lost loved ones around X-mas time, usually to cancer. Strange, huh? > Thanks, Tygriss, that helps. I know you are all here for me and for those of us who are in need. > Continuing the death thread momentarily, did anyone else read about Carl > Sagan dying? My mom said something about it last week but I didn't > believe her. > I heard about that, but know no details. > I finished _Outlander_ and am anxious to get to the other Claire/Jamie > books. But have to wait for the library to open tomorrow. Waaaaahhhh! > What will I read tonight? I bought the first 2 books in the series during this trip to NY? How many are there? I couldn't find any others. > > Is there anyone else like me that has a terrible habit of starting the > second book in a trilogy and then finding out it's a trilogy and start to > get totally pissed when you can't find the first book? That was me and > the DT series. And the Soulsmith trilogy by Dietz. And AM's > Dragonriders. And... I have long suffered from a worse problem. Before the Internet and discovering Future Fantasy, Dangerous Visions and similar bookstores willing to ship to Uruguay, I sometiomes got only the first book in a trilogy /me shudders remembering the frustration. I only recently managed to complete 2 trilogies by Louise Cooper of which I had only read the first book in each. They are quite good as a matter of fact, even though I have a serious objection to the plot of the first trilogy. I believe that teh main character had sufficient power at his disposal not to find himself cornered into a certain situation. It is something akin to teh "Did Vanyel have to die?" debate only more so, IMHO. Has anyone read these books? I am referring to the Time Master trilogy and the Chaos Gate Trilogy. The nice thing about them is that the two warring factions of Gods, Order and Chaos are not Good and Evil but have both good and bad things. On another subject, 2 day BDAY warning. Aistes's birthday is on December 24th. get ready!! I hope you will all tell Deniz what a good job I did in her absence ;) Love, Ele ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:42:19 EST From: tygriss-+AT+-juno.com (Sara A Youngblood) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: B-day gift to Aistes/thanx Message-ID: <19961222.214039.5127.1.Tygriss-+AT+-juno.com> Happy Birthing Day, Aistes!!!! On this, your most special day, I give you a calming mantra to help you remain patient and dignified throughout any stressful situation. Enjoy and have a great day! ;) Danyel, thanx so much for the hug. People seem to know when another person needs one. Owwie finger. Ly, Tygriss-+AT+-juno.com Priestess of Large Hunter Cats, LotPW www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/3418 Aquarium - Interactive TV for cats ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:53:03 -0500 From: Empress100-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: SERRAted Edge, Darkover, DT Books Message-ID: <961222225302_575946094-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com> I really like the SERRAted Edge books. I would really like to see more of them come out and explain more about the dragons and those fox things, sorry can't remember what they are called. Has anyone read the Darkover novel that was co-authered by Misty and Marion Zimmer Bradley? I really enjoyed it. However, it left a lot of loose ends. I had heard earlier this year that there was a sequel coming out and haven't heard anything sense. Has anyone else heard anything? The DT books are not a trilogy. There are five books. Only three were published due to low sales. There are two that take place inbetween the the times of CoTN and BW, if you notice they take place roughly twenty years apart. I don't remember were Jinx High fits in but I believe it is closer to BW. The other two books are called Arcane 101 and I think The Triangle Room, but I am not sure about the second one. I had heard that the rights to these had been bought by a new publisher and would be published but I am not sure. I had a problem with the end of BW. SPOILER After Di "beats" the evil god and rescues her friend the man who was supposed to become the god gets away. We then find out that he has kidnapped two other women who were wearing white clothing. Di treats this with a VERY cavilear attitude and I didn't like that at all. I realize there was nothing that she could have done, but as a gaurdian I really didn't like how the situation was handled. Opinions? David PS: That is the longest note that I have ever written. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:00:12 -0300 From: Eleonora To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: B-day gift to Aistes/thanx Message-ID: <32BE03CC.534F-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy> Sara A Youngblood wrote: > > Happy Birthing Day, Aistes!!!! On this, your most special day, I give > you a calming mantra to help you remain patient and dignified throughout > any stressful situation. > > Enjoy and have a great day! ;) > I hate to point this out Tygriss, but Aistes Bday is on Dec. 24. You are a bit ahead of the date, or are you just making sure you don't forget? ;) I saud 2 day warning ;) > Danyel, thanx so much for the hug. People seem to know when another > person needs one. Owwie finger. > I'd like to join in that hug, Tygriss, and also offer you a tray of my patented virtual chocolate eclairs. They have even made Kenny overlook my misuse of lingustic terms ;) and Kory overlook the fact that I use a PC ;) What's owwie finger, BTW? Love, Ele Priestess of Karma LotPW Dame of the OAM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:29:11 -0500 From: LCM46-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Assorted thingys Message-ID: <961222232858_1654178193-+AT+-emout16.mail.aol.com> First of all---Aistes--a birthday greeting--enjoy your day as much as possible, and don't do anything you don't HAVE to do--make sure you sit down and relax at some point in the day, contemplate your navel, if necessary, but, just relax and enjoy yourself. I find that if YOU don't take care of yourself/your "inner being", no one else is going to do it for you. Since it is also the season for "over-indulging", have an extra scoop of ice cream in the flavor of your choice, and DO NOT feel guilty! re: Darkover--I think (?) I read it but cannot bring a thing about it from the recesses of my memory. re: DT novels--I read CotN and JH--liked CotN, as I am a vampire story fan also--LOVED Ann Rice's vampire series, and all of her other books, too. Chesea Quinn Yarbrough (sp?) has several books concerning one vampire, through the ages, and I liked those, too. There is also another set of books with vampires as main characters, but I cannot think of the author--one is "Those Who Hunt The Night", I think. Anyone read these? re: tygriss/owwie finger--here's a long-distance kiss to make it feel better ---X---! (That works with little kids--hope it works for you!) HEY--America on Line has a "Yule Log" screen--like I'd waste time watching that--I think that's going a little bit too far. re: Carl Sagan--yes, he did die--Thursday or Friday, I think---he had been treated several times for a form of cancer, somewhere in Washington state, and had just been released and returned to Cornell---got pneumonia, and that was that. I remember seeing his "Cosmos" program on PBS, many, MANY moons ago--a really brilliant man-- re: Claire/Jamie--Outlander is the first book, Dragonfly in Amber is the second, Voyager is the third, and Drums of Autums is due out 12/30, or 1/3, depending on which bookstore you believe. I LOVE THOSE BOOKS! I have read the first three at least 5 times each, and cannot wait to get the 4th--I have any Xmas $$ already spent at the bookstore. I think that covers what I've read tonight--no great opinions to put forth for discussion,as I HAVE to descend into the bowels of this house again, for MORE LAUNDRY. Later, Lorraine Goddess of Domesticity/Laundry But I'm not dead yet! MP/Holy Grail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:12:57 +0000 From: "Adrianne" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: I'm still here!!!!!/Oathbound Message-ID: <199612230913.JAA16394-+AT+-enterprise.powerup.com.au> Eleonora wrote: > I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. > Personally, this will be my most difficult Xmas ever, since it will be > the first after my grandmother's death. We always spent these > festivities with my grandparents, and she always gave us the handknit > pieces she had made for each of us along the year. So, I apologise in > advance in case I become either too silent, subdued, irksome, impatient, > or downright bitchy, as Xmas Eve approaches. I'll try not to, I > promise. > Hey, Ele, if that's how you're feeling then that's fine. Xmas is a hard time for a lot of people for many reasons and surely on this list we can allow our listsibs to be themselves even when they're hurting and needing support. I'll be thinking of you and sending soothing music to bring you comfort and to ease your grief. <> - to you, Ele, and to our other listsibs who need hugs right now, including Shadow Wolf. BTW, I'll be here the whole time, too, since I'm online from home. And I'll have the next ten days child-free while they holiday with their father! Mind you , I have to get a magazine to the printer by the 6th January so I'll be spending the time after Christmas at the computer doing all the typesetting - busy time. Obmisty: My daughter just finished the Arrows series and she commented on how sad it was. (She's 12). I warned her that Oathbound is a bit sad too and she said, 'A bit sad? With ML a bit sad means weeping and boo-hoos and lots of tissues!' I have given her another author for Christmas (which we had yesterday since they go away today) so that she has a chance to recover her spirits!! I know there was discussion on the list some time ago about the use of rape in Misty's books and I must admit, having just finished Oathbound, that I found the scene of Tarmir's rape by the soldiers was just a tad too casual. I don't believe in hitting people over the head with graphic details, especially that young girls are reading these books too; but I think this scene went to the other extreme - almost verging on condoning their actions, IMHO. Christmas greetings to you all. My round of performances finished last night (15 in the last three weeks!!) so I'm looking forward to a well-deserved break - from singing, that is. Now I'll maybe have some time to record some backings in preparation for next year! May this Christmas be all you could desire. Lady Adrianne, High Priestess of the Goddess of Music and Song, First Bard of all Bards, & Renunciate ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Laugh for me. Joy is in the ears that hear.' Foamfollower, First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ajfabbey-+AT+-powerup.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:18:33 +0100 (CET) From: "Khenta B./ Birgit Hanel" To: Misty mail Message-ID: Waaaaah! This will probably be my last post to the list, I'm going to unsubscribe tonight (well, now it's morning over here and I'll be coming back to the lab tonight to look after the rest of the mail that'll arrive in the course of the day and to keep the withdrawal symptoms as small? as possible :) since the lab will be closed for a week and I will be unsub'bing anyway... but I'm babbling... hey, it's SNOWING outside! Seems as if we're going to have the first white christmas in oh-how-many years!) Tygriss writes: >Is there anyone else like me that has a terrible habit of starting the >second book in a trilogy and then finding out it's a trilogy and start to >get totally pissed when you can't find the first book? That was me and >the DT series. And the Soulsmith trilogy by Dietz. And AM's >Dragonriders. And... Usually I get totally pissed when I can't find the LAST book of a trilogy. Since I refuse to buy book #2 of a series when I don't even know book #1, what you described rarely happens to me (just once with a Baudino book, _Shroud of Shadow_; haven't read it yet and am thinking about taking it back to the second-hand shop unread). But back to my point, not being able to find the last book of a set is just as worse, IMO. Happened to me with the absolutely wonderful _Sorcerer's Duel_ trilogy by Jo Clayton (which was written in the early 80s) of which I found only this year (yes, just recently!) the last book. Whew. David writes: >After Di "beats" the evil god and rescues her friend the man who was >supposed >to become the god gets away. We then find out that he has kidnapped two >other women who were wearing white clothing. Di treats this with a VERY >cavilear attitude and I didn't like that at all. I realize there was >nothing >that she could have done, but as a gaurdian I really didn't like how the >situation was handled. Opinions? IMO she was so relaxed about the whole thing 'cause she realized that he wouldn't survive all this. But I could be wrong about this. Hmm, I'm going to look it up and post about it tonight. Oh, I almost forgot the poll! Well, I'm going to post about this as well. And maybe put something up on the bulletin board on Lady Becky's list-homepage. Hasta luego! Walk in beauty Khenta Blaufalk bhanel-+AT+-ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de aka Skyfire k'Vala, Goddess of Incomplete Vocabulary and Garbled Grammar I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty... Bart Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 04:36:33 -0500 From: Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <961223043633_1754861762-+AT+-emout05.mail.aol.com> Just a little note for everyone who lost someone at Christmas Time. Being an RN I see this a lot. Most people hang on until the Holidays, and then they just seem to let go. I believe this is because I think the holidays give them something to look forward to. A reason to live if you will. I am going through the same thing myself right now. My father has cancer of the colon and there is nothing the the Doctors can do for him. My family is praying that he will at least make it through this Christmas. My thoughts and prayer are with all of you have lost a loved one during the Holidays. Chris Olson (still working on name) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:28:41 -0600 From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: SERRAted Edge/L&W Message-ID: Sorry I can't join in on the SERRAted edge discussion, or Diana Tregarde. I started Children of the Night, but it got awfully creepy (I had to put it down; it just became too much)and just glancing through one of the Edge books did Dark and Dire Damage to my Physical and Emotional Well-Being. It took me awhile to recover; I can't imagine what would have happened if I had tried to *read* it. No, these books are not for me. I am going to try reading the Kory/Beth/Eric books, though. I have been assured by a trustworthy source that they will not do me emotional harm, and I have heard from others here that KoGaS is quite good. It is on my list to be read next. I read Bardic Voices when it first came out, and I enjoyed it. I didn't have interest in the second and third books, though, so I haven't read them. From what Heather and others have said in the past, I may not have missed much. Now, Velgarth, of course, is quite another matter. Yesyesyesyesyes. So there it is. My hesitantly tendered opinion on DT and The Edge. I thought I'd stay quiet on this, but as one of the few remaining, I suppose I feel I have a duty to discuss. Go Gently, Tresta %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Tresta shena Jor'ethan "Love must live free." Healer to horses -Shin'a'in Teaching Knight of Amber and Marigold %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% To be tired of horses is to be tired of life; horses are a gift to us." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:00:47 -0600 From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Holidays & Birthdays Message-ID: <199612231458.AA181043110-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu> Well, I'm still here, although it's just for today. The only drawback of taking an extended holiday is that I won't be anywhere near a computer. So, I'll take this time to wish all of you a very happy and safe holiday (whichever one you celebrate). Also, Happy Birthday Aistes! My gifts to you are a backpack that's always filled with your favorite books so you can read them whenever you want no matter where you are. And, the backpack will always be light, so you won't hurt yourself! *g* Also, I give to you a double-fudge birthday cake. (If you don't like chocolate, the cake can be any flavor you wish). Nina Ehgartner Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management email: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu Phone: (847) 491-3308 Fax: (847) 491-4960 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:09:38 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: B-day gift to Aistes/thanx Message-ID: <199612231509.KAA00349-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 04:02 AM 12/23/96 GMT, you wrote: >Happy Birthing Day, Aistes!!!! On this, your most special day, I give >you a calming mantra to help you remain patient and dignified throughout >any stressful situation. Thankyou. It will be quite strange. I now have a girlfriend of 7 months who wishes to plan something for my B-day which I am not used to. Tommorrow however I will be 19 years of age so that should make me happy. > > Thanks Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:09:40 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Assorted thingys Message-ID: <199612231509.KAA00370-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 04:58 AM 12/23/96 GMT, you wrote: >First of all---Aistes--a birthday greeting--enjoy your day as much as >possible, and >don't do anything you don't HAVE to do--make sure you sit down and relax at >some point in the day, contemplate your navel, if necessary, but, just relax >and enjoy yourself. I find that if YOU don't take care of yourself/your >"inner being", no one else is going to do it for you. Since it is also the >season for "over-indulging", have an extra scoop of ice cream in the flavor >of your choice, and DO NOT feel guilty! Thankyou for the early B-day wish. I would never feel guilty about eating ice cream. MMMMMMMM Ice Cream. Now I have a craving for ice cream. Now see what you made me do. :) I must be in a strange mood so close to the holidays now. I feel very strange. > Thanks Aistes ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1029 **********************************