MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1030 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Grandmother by Chris & Sean Talbot 2) good bye and some other notes by "Khenta B./ Birgit Hanel" 3) Valdemar by David Maginnis 4) Re: Assorted thingys by Sandra K Haas 5) Braid: Karal Mulder/Darkover/BW/The Muse & psivamps by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 6) by nomorehappyface-+AT+-prodigy.com (MISS TRICIA ELLIS) 7) Re: Holidays & Birthdays by Chris & Sean Talbot 8) Christmas Deaths/birthdays/name by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: Christmas Deaths/birthdays/name by Chris & Sean Talbot 10) B-day/owwie finger/books&weather by tygriss-+AT+-juno.com (Sara A Youngblood) 11) MZB/ reacuring topics by Rose 12) Re: I'm still here!!!!!/Oathbound by Gene McKeever 13) holiday wishes by awand-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Kimberly) 14) A Warrior's Christmas by "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" 15) Re: Grandmother by Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com 16) Re: Grandmother by Empress100-+AT+-aol.com 17) Chris' Dad by "Adrianne" 18) Lifebonded: Hopeful :-) vs. Bitter :-( by Hades16-+AT+-aol.com 19) Re: Grandmother by Hades16-+AT+-aol.com 20) Re: Chris's Dad by "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" 21) Re: Lifebonded: Hopeful :-) vs. Bitter :-( by "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" 22) Re: Chris's Dad by anderbdm-+AT+-juno.com (Dawn L. Anderson) 23) Re: Chris's Dad by Eleonora 24) Aistes's Bday by Eleonora ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:09:42 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <199612231509.KAA00378-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 10:07 AM 12/23/96 GMT, you wrote: >Just a little note for everyone who lost someone at Christmas Time. Being an >RN I see this a lot. Most people hang on until the Holidays, and then they >just seem to let go. I believe this is because I think the holidays give >them something to look forward to. A reason to live if you will. It seems to happen all the time. Either right before or right after. With my Grandmother it was right after and she was too sick to even know who we were and couldn't even open gifts or see me on my birthday. > >I am going through the same thing myself right now. My father has cancer of >the colon and there is nothing the the Doctors can do for him. Sorry to hear that about your father. > >My family is praying that he will at least make it through this Christmas. Hopefully he will. It would be nice for him to be around for you. Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:56:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Khenta B./ Birgit Hanel" To: Misty mail Subject: good bye and some other notes Message-ID: Ok, this is officially my last post this year and with this address. I'm truly sorry I have to leave. Now I know how being FAFIAted (Forced Away >From It All) feels like. The poll, the poll. No, I haven't forgotten. :) Ok, as it seems, there's no connection between people's first Misty book and each one's favourite Misty book. Roughly, I've been asking "Is the first Misty book you read also your favourite?" and 7 people confirmed this. 23 people negated this, 4 were undecided. I counted multiple namings of favourites _with_ the first one as pro and multiple namings _without_ the first one as contra. It would possibly have looked much different if I'd treated multiple namings differently. But I didn't. So what. :) So there goes my little theory... erm, hypothesis. Ok, as I have nothing else to say (nothing I could say aloud publicly without blushing, anyway ;) No, not what you think! I'm just annoyed that the lab's closed), I'm just going to wish you a peaceful holiday and a happy new year. Take care (meaning, uh, don't eat too much? ;)). I hope I'll be back some time next year, but not before springtime (I'll be, anyhow, still here to read private mails, from time to time). Bye everybody. Walk in beauty Khenta Blaufalk bhanel-+AT+-ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de aka Skyfire k'Vala, Goddess of Incomplete Vocabulary and Garbled Grammar I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty... Bart Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:21:53 +0000 From: David Maginnis To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Valdemar Message-ID: <32BEDBD1.2AA0-+AT+-netcomuk.co.uk> Merry xmas everyone!, Does anyone know if Mercedes Lackey has written or is planning to write about the first heralds,Sunsinger and Shadowdancer? Thanks, David Maginnis,Leeds,England ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:28:19 -0500 (EST) From: Sandra K Haas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Assorted thingys Message-ID: Hi gang! Am here until 5 today, then gone until the 2nd! Yippee!! Anyway I have a really stupid question. There has been so much about the Monty Python Holy Grail movie that I finally saw it, and laughed much more than probably appropriate because I was finally getting some of the jokes around here. Anyway!!! I don't remember the line that our Laundry Goddess quoted. When did that happen?? May each and every one of you get lots of rest and reading done over the break!! And, if you are one of those that don't get breaks: nurses, doctors, police, etc. Bless you thrice over. You are doing jobs that we take for granted and really shouldn't. See ya next year! Sandy > Later, Lorraine > Goddess of Domesticity/Laundry > > But I'm not dead yet! > MP/Holy Grail > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:02:33 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Braid: Karal Mulder/Darkover/BW/The Muse & psivamps Message-ID: <199612232056.OAA07583-+AT+-cdale3.midwest.net> Lady Silvermoom wrote: >>> Second. My sister and I were flipping through Storm Warning, and we found something pretty weird. I think it's chapter 4 that has the picture of Karal? Okay, who do you think he looks like? Why do I ask? Because we both think he looks like Mulder from X-Files! A younger Mulder, but still him. Who agrees/disagrees? <<< *flipflipflip* Oh my! By all that is paranormal! I agree!!!!! I've always thought Karal's pictures were the best next to Amberdrake, but I didna notice that he looked like Mulder. *drool* David Duchovny.... Didja know that there's a book out, about DD, called "The Duchovny Files" or something like that ? I wanted to get it, but it would've cost me $15, so I didn't get it. Yes, I still love Brent Spiner, Bruce Boxleitner, and occasionally Patrick Stewart. But David Duchovny is still sexy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David wrote: >>>Has anyone read the Darkover novel that was co-authered by Misty and Marion Zimmer Bradley? I really enjoyed it. However, it left a lot of loose ends. I had heard earlier this year that there was a sequel coming out and haven't heard anything sense. Has anyone else heard anything?<<< I HAVE! It was great, even though at the end, I was like "So? What happens then?" It was sort of like The X-Files set in Darkover without Mulder & Scully without anything weird happening. In a sense, nothing weird happened, but the conflict was still unresolved. *Is* there a sequel to this? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Burning Water Spoiler David wrote: >>>After Di "beats" the evil god and rescues her friend the man who was supposed to become the god gets away. We then find out that he has kidnapped two other women who were wearing white clothing. Di treats this with a VERY cavilear attitude and I didn't like that at all. I realize there was nothing that she could have done, but as a gaurdian I really didn't like how the situation was handled. Opinions?<<< IIRC, she isn't that casual about this, but more of a resigned manner. I think the point here is that she could separate herself from them because she had no personal connections, no group affiliated connections, she wasn't there when they were killed. I thought that was kind of sick, considering how disoriented she became when that car crashed on the highway. I guess if Misty had more pages to work on, Di would have handled it better. End Spoiler ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Happy early B-day, Aistes! May all your birthday wishes come true, and may no one cut down on your presents because you're b-day is Christmas Eve. Okay, that's it for today.... Oh yeah. I saw the DS9 episode "The Muse" in re-re-rerun last night. If you know what I'm talking about, do you recall anything like that feeds on a creative mind? I thought it was rather like the psi-vamps from CotN. Love & Logic, Summersong & Spiffy the Cat ************************************* Akiko Hirao "Captain, I believe I speak for everyone here when I say ... To hell with our orders!" -- Lt. Cmdr. Data from Star Trek: First Contact ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:30:29, -0500 From: nomorehappyface-+AT+-prodigy.com (MISS TRICIA ELLIS) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Message-ID: <199612232030.PAA21372-+AT+-mime2.prodigy.com> hades, sweetie, you are waaaaayyyy overdramatic. but you knew that already, didn't you? ok. uh... i guess there's a poll going around? i really don't have time to read every letter here.. plus, prodigy mail is less than easy to deal with... it flips out when i get 300 pieces of mail at one time... imagine that... aaanyway.. 1st ML book: either Magic's Pawn or Oathbound... i forget exactly. fave book: Oathbound!! fave character:: Kethry (notice a trend here?) or Jadrek (yup, definately a trend) or skandranon (well, every trend ends somewhere. ) ok, i haven't had a chance to read anything but certain notes, so if anyone has anything directed toward me, be it insult, death threat, whatever, give me a reason to look twice at the subject line please.. thank ye kindly ---liha'irden -----personal tormenter illegitimate god of misconstrued theories, etc., who should BE the god of misspelled words. the name's LIHA irden, not LIHRA, but i'll let you live 'cuz i love ya.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:51:58 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Holidays & Birthdays Message-ID: <199612232251.RAA01309-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 03:19 PM 12/23/96 GMT, you wrote: >Well, I'm still here, although it's just for today. The only drawback of >taking an extended holiday is that I won't be anywhere near a computer. So, >I'll take this time to wish all of you a very happy and safe holiday >(whichever one you celebrate). > >Also, Happy Birthday Aistes! My gifts to you are a backpack that's always >filled with your favorite books so you can read them whenever you want no >matter where you are. And, the backpack will always be light, so you won't >hurt yourself! *g* Also, I give to you a double-fudge birthday cake. (If >you don't like chocolate, the cake can be any flavor you wish). Thankyou it is very nice of you to wish me a happy birthday. I appreciate the gift so I don't have to lug around all my books anymore. Chocolate is fine I guess but I don't need a double fudge, just a single fudge will be fine. Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:14:28 -0500 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Christmas Deaths/birthdays/name Message-ID: <961223181427_1888323687-+AT+-emout04.mail.aol.com> I offer a big hug to everyone who has lost someone this past year. Seems like a lot of grandparents to cancer. I know how it is, this will be the first Christmas without my grandfather. He died this Feb. of stomach cancer. The hardest part was that we didn't know that he had so little time left. The doctors didn't realize it was cancer until he was gone. This was a few days after they said he had 2-6 months left. Sigh. Stupid stupid. So, (((((((hug))))))) to everyone out there. Now something happier. Happy Birthday Aistes!! For your birthday I give you a silver ring with a moon on it. Whenever you need to give words of comfort to someone, it will provide you with the perfect thing to say. :) Chris...hmmm...a name? Well, what type of name are you looking for? Tayldras names are pretty easy. There are the ever popular wind, star, moon, winter, sun words to add in there. Try different combinations. Look for a different end half though. If you want a variation on your real name, try switching the letters a bit. You could be Kris, Cris, Krys, Crys, Chrys, Cryss...you get the idea. Lady Silvermoon LIG, Leader of the DDMF, Dame of the OAM, LotPW, Goddess of Sensitivity "Do you feel the way you hate? Do you hate the way you feel?" Bush "Greedy Fly" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:45:05 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Christmas Deaths/birthdays/name Message-ID: <199612232345.SAA15533-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 11:40 PM 12/23/96 GMT, you wrote: > I offer a big hug to everyone who has lost someone this past year. Seems >like a lot of grandparents to cancer. I know how it is, this will be the >first Christmas without my grandfather. He died this Feb. of stomach cancer. > The hardest part was that we didn't know that he had so little time left. > The doctors didn't realize it was cancer until he was gone. This was a few >days after they said he had 2-6 months left. Sigh. Stupid stupid. So, > (((((((hug))))))) to everyone out there. Now something happier. > >Happy Birthday Aistes!! For your birthday I give you a silver ring with a >moon on it. Whenever you need to give words of comfort to someone, it will >provide you with the perfect thing to say. :) Thankyou I have recieved so many birthday wishes that I must simpy reply to every message and thank the person who sent it. Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:45:31 EST From: tygriss-+AT+-juno.com (Sara A Youngblood) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: B-day/owwie finger/books&weather Message-ID: <19961223.174430.5327.0.Tygriss-+AT+-juno.com> On Mon, 23 Dec 1996 04:31:08 GMT Eleonora writes: >I hate to point this out Tygriss, but Aistes Bday is on Dec. 24. >You are a bit ahead of the date, or are you just making sure you >don't forget? ;) I saud 2 day warning ;) Sometimes I forget to wish folks a "happy birthday" so I'm doing it a little early. >I'd like to join in that hug, Tygriss, and also offer you a tray of my patented virtual chocolate eclairs. They have even made Kenny overlook my misuse of lingustic terms ;) and Kory overlook the fact that I use a PC ;) Mmmmmmm.... fank you for 'e 'ug. *swallow* Great ecalirs! >What's owwie finger, BTW? Klutz that I am, I accidentally smashed my left pinkie between the door of the closet and my 29" TV when I was trying to put it away until it's fixed. I heard a small crunch and now it's black and blue and I can hardly bend it. All I know is that it hurts. I finally got to the library and got _Dragonfly in Amber_ and _Voyager_ so I can finish Gabaldon's series on Claire/Jamie. Yaay! Now I'll have something to do while a tornado blows the house away. Tornado and severe thunderstorm warnings in our area tonight. But I'd rather have that than earthquakes (we sit on the New Madrid fault). You can get away from a tornado, not an earthquake. No obMisty because I'm too hungry. I've really got to quit eating one meal a day and that one's pretty light! Maybe a Misty-mention later. Love ya'll, Tygriss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:57:01 -0500 From: Rose To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: MZB/ reacuring topics Message-ID: <32BF1C4D.7609-+AT+-ctol.net> Summersong wrote: >Okay... I've a tiny bit of a question: Are the books in the series Best >of MZB's Fantasy Magazine still in print? I know Bradly's anthologies are notorious for shortsited printing, but I swear that the Best Of's are still in print, either that or the B&N near me juat overstocked. But, knowing me if I ever went and outright looked for them, they wouldn't be there. David wrote: >Does anyone know if Mercedes Lackey has written or is planning to write >about the first heralds,Sunsinger and Shadowdancer? Speaking of which, since there are a lot of new people, and many of the regs have postponed, it would probably be a good time to get the topics out that seem to crop up often, the above being one of them. Also reincarnated Heralds, Talia dreaming? and lifebonds. Kawryathen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:57:41 -0500 From: Gene McKeever To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: I'm still here!!!!!/Oathbound Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961223184725.00694804-+AT+-dalco.net> Brightest Blessings to You All! Happy Solstice! This is my first post to this list. To Lady Adrienne - your daughter's comment about ML is true, but the most inportant thing is that while you may be sobbing most of the time it is with an unfettered joy. Later, s'Gene At 09:38 AM 12/23/96 GMT, you wrote: > Eleonora wrote: >> I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. >> Personally, this will be my most difficult Xmas ever, since it will be >> the first after my grandmother's death. We always spent these >> festivities with my grandparents, and she always gave us the handknit >> pieces she had made for each of us along the year. So, I apologise in >> advance in case I become either too silent, subdued, irksome, impatient, >> or downright bitchy, as Xmas Eve approaches. I'll try not to, I >> promise. >> > >Hey, Ele, if that's how you're feeling then that's fine. Xmas is a >hard time for a lot of people for many reasons and surely on this >list we can allow our listsibs to be themselves even when they're >hurting and needing support. I'll be thinking of you and sending >soothing music to bring you comfort and to ease your grief. ><> - to you, Ele, and to our other listsibs who need >hugs right now, including Shadow Wolf. > >BTW, I'll be here the whole time, too, since I'm online from home. >And I'll have the next ten days child-free while they holiday with >their father! Mind you , I have to get a magazine to the >printer by the 6th January so I'll be spending the time after Christmas >at the computer doing all the typesetting - busy time. > >Obmisty: My daughter just finished the Arrows series and she >commented on how sad it was. (She's 12). I warned her that Oathbound >is a bit sad too and she said, 'A bit sad? With ML a bit sad means >weeping and boo-hoos and lots of tissues!' I have given her another >author for Christmas (which we had yesterday since they go away >today) so that she has a chance to recover her spirits!! I know there >was discussion on the list some time ago about the use of rape in >Misty's books and I must admit, having just finished Oathbound, that I >found the scene of Tarmir's rape by the soldiers was just a tad too >casual. I don't believe in hitting people over the head with graphic >details, especially that young girls are reading these books too; but >I think this scene went to the other extreme - almost verging on >condoning their actions, IMHO. > >Christmas greetings to you all. My round of performances finished >last night (15 in the last three weeks!!) so I'm looking forward to a >well-deserved break - from singing, that is. Now I'll maybe have some >time to record some backings in preparation for next year! May this >Christmas be all you could desire. > > >Lady Adrianne, High Priestess of the Goddess of Music and Song, First Bard >of all Bards, & Renunciate >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >'Laugh for me. Joy is in the ears that hear.' >Foamfollower, First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >ajfabbey-+AT+-powerup.com.au > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:28:56 -0500 From: awand-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Kimberly) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: holiday wishes Message-ID: Gene McKeever wrote: >Brightest Blessings to You All! Happy Solstice! > >This is my first post to this list. ::smile:: Hullo there, then, and welcome in. Don't hesitate, just jump in, since we're already squashed ;) Hope you don't mind, I'll just use this post to do a little obligatory hugging, and everyone try and pretend that the Solstice wasn't technically on Saturday so we can ignore how late I am. ::faint blush:: Please? I've been scrambling about sideways in the mad holiday rush (gods, you should see the lines at the post office, stores) and trying to keep up my math, so I don't have any real excuse, but I wanted to wish everyone holiday happiness. It seems almost superfluous, since everyone here's open enough to be able to share their sadnesses, and holiday wishes, too, but I thought if I joined in, maybe some of the cheer might penetrate more to everyone who's lost someone they loved. It's always worth a try, anyway, and I know that the holidaty wishes on-list seem more genuine, and more warm than a lot of the tired, harassed thoughts that I got IRL. And I wanted to say thanks, too, for all of you that posted, because somehow it made things seem less lonely than the season was before. Hugs for Ele, and Shadow Wolf, and anyone else I missed... Blessed Be, Kimberly awand-+AT+-mail.idt.net Goddess of Many Names ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:35:04 -0800 From: "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: A Warrior's Christmas Message-ID: <32BF5D78.3169-+AT+-inreach.com> Here is a poem posted by one of the member's of Clan Woad. This is for those who are else where in the world fighting for peace and who cannot be with family for Christmas (or whatever holiday they celebrate this time of year). May they all come home safely. -Kerowynn k'Sheyna of Clan Woad T'was the night before Christmas, he lived all alone, In a one bedroom house made of plaster and stone. I had come down the chimney with presents to give, And to see just who in this home did live. I looked all about, a strange sight I did see, No tinsel, no presents, not even a tree. No stocking by mantle, just boots filled with sand, On the wall hung pictures of far distant lands. With medals and badges, awards of all kinds, A sober thought came through my mind. For this house was different, it was dark and dreary, I found the home of a soldier, once I could see clearly. The soldier lay sleeping, silent, alone, Curled up on the floor in this one bedroom home. The face was so gentle, the room in such disorder, Not how I pictured a United States soldier. Was this the hero of whom I'd just read? Curled up on a poncho, the floor for a bed? I realized the families that I saw this night, Owed their lives to these soldiers who were willing to fight. Soon 'round the world the children would play, And grown-ups would celebrate a bright Christmas day. They all enjoyed freedom each month of the year, Because of the soldiers, like the one lying here. I couldn't help wonder how many lay alone, On a cold Christmas Eve, in a land far from home. The very thought brought a tear to my eye, I dropped to my knees and started to cry. The soldier awakened and I heard a rough voice, "Santa don't cry, this life is my choice; I fight for freedom, I don't ask for more, My life is my God, my Country, my Corps." The soldier rolled over and drifted to sleep, I couldn't control it, I continued to weep. I kept watch for hours, so silent and still, And we both shivered from the cold night's chill. I didn't want to leave on that cold, dark night, This Guardian of honor so willing to fight. Then the soldier rolled over, with a voice soft and pure, Whispered, "Carry on Santa, it's Christmas Day, all is secure." One look at my watch, and I knew he was right, Merry Christmas my friend, and to all a good night. Share this with someone you know, for we all have friends who will be securing freedom somewhere in the world over Christmas. May the Lord bless them and keep them safe this Christmas season.-Owain ab Arawn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:42:46 -0500 From: Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <961223234244_35504186-+AT+-emout03.mail.aol.com> Sorry to drop a bomb on everyone, but Dad got worse. May not make it through today. So please all of you who do this, Please pray for him. He just does not want to let go. Fighting very very hard. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:13:23 -0500 From: Empress100-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <961224001323_1042139682-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com> Chris you and your father are both in my prayers. Zhai'helleva, David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:02:24 +0000 From: "Adrianne" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Chris' Dad Message-ID: <199612240602.GAA09339-+AT+-enterprise.powerup.com.au> > Sorry to drop a bomb on everyone, but Dad got worse. May not make it through > today. So please all of you who do this, Please pray for him. He just does > not want to let go. Fighting very very hard. > > Chris > Chris, Our thoughts are with you. It's a really hard time, I know, and there's really not a lot that anyone can say. Just know that even though we've never met face to face, we're still here for you. Adrianne ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Laugh for me. Joy is in the ears that hear.' Foamfollower, First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ajfabbey-+AT+-powerup.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:13:06 -0500 From: Hades16-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Lifebonded: Hopeful :-) vs. Bitter :-( Message-ID: <961224011306_743852095-+AT+-emout16.mail.aol.com> I bring to the floor the question of what effect the whole concept of lifebonds has on all of you. My apologies if this subject has already been talked over to death and I missed it (probably something to do with the mental hospital I was in not allowing residents on the internet...just kidding :-)). As far as I can guess, reading about lifebonded people could either make a person feel hopeful and happy that such relationships are indeed imaginable or bitter that they know that such relationships can only exist in fiction books. There of course is the possibility that you never gave serious thought to the matter. If not, please do so now. To all those people who are Misty purists, I am aware that lifebindedness and love can easily be seen as being two distinct, different things. But for conversation's sake, let's bend the definitions a little if need be. Again for all those Misty purists, I could provide examples of scenes with lifebonded people from books but you probably know many more than I do so I will leave it up to you. The thought of lifebonds might bring someone a feeling of giddiness. He/she might think of his/her loved one with warmth...of how he/she spent winter nights cuddling or other such romantic cliches. It might make someone happy to be exposed to such ideas of close intimacy. Or perhaps he/she might think of someone he/she hopes to be close to. However, people could easily react to reading about lifebonds with bitterness. They might think, in this world that is increasingly cynical about the endurance of love, of how he/she will never meet the perfect person because of his/her own personality quarks and inadequacies(spelling?).....of how lifebonds work as one, but in the real world the lovers are individualistic in their aspirations and dreams....of how he/she had been betrayed by someone who he/she thought she could trust and even love.....or perhaps of how he/she had betrayed someone that he/she had cared for but not loved and felt his/her self of not deserving love because of past mistakes he/she had made. Personally, I am a mixture of the two as I would guess most people are to varying degrees. The idea of two people bonded so closely as to be "lifebonded" together can make me smile in an absent way. Also, it can make me feel a little depressed that I am not the type of person to have such intimate relationships. Thank the gods that Lihra' irden and myself will get married in about twenty-four years if neither of us is married already. Of course if either of us die beforehand we wont get married. Um, I hope that I remembered to mention that to her. Please, I would like to know all of your thoughts on the subject. No need to e-mail me through the list if you are either afraid of needlessly clogging the list or would simply rather e-mail me personally. You can tell me if I am certifiably crazy. If you do, please have the common curtesy to recommend a good shrink for me. Live well Hades ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:17:25 -0500 From: Hades16-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grandmother Message-ID: <961224011724_1042144840-+AT+-emout06.mail.aol.com> I do not pray anymore, buy I do still hope. May your loved ones heal and yourselves have a happy solstice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:16:07 -0800 From: "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Chris's Dad Message-ID: <32BF9147.759D-+AT+-inreach.com> Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > > Sorry to drop a bomb on everyone, but Dad got worse. May not make it through > today. So please all of you who do this, Please pray for him. He just does > not want to let go. Fighting very very hard. > > Chris Have hope friend, our thoughts and our hearts are with you. You have us all to talk to if you need it. Just have faith that things will get better. Kerowynn k'Sheyna Clan Woad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:38:20 -0800 From: "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Lifebonded: Hopeful :-) vs. Bitter :-( Message-ID: <32BF967B.1662-+AT+-inreach.com> Hades16-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > > "I bring to the floor the question of what effect the whole concept of > lifebonds has on all of you." I believe that there is such a thing as a lifebond in real life, as in soulmates. A lifebond to me is when two people come together and just "know" they are the right ones for each other, then go on to lead a (hopefully) long, happy life with one another. Knowing this gives me hope and happiness, knowing that there is someone out there for everyone, though it may not happen in this lifetime or it may happen several times in your life if your soulmate were to pass on but at that time there is a GREAT feeling of loss, more than you've ever felt for anyone, though this may be hard to believe, I believe that when you do meet your mate and lose him/her the feeling of loss can be greater than losing a family member, because your spirit has once again broken in two. This is the only bitter part of the whole idea. But the spirit of your mate is always with you until the actuall meeting where the two combine as one. It seems like something out of a faerie tale, but I believe in lifebonds/soulmates wholeheartedly. Even though I'm married, I know my husband is not my soulmate/lifebond, but I really love him. Who's to say I will meet my soulmate in this life? If I were to meet my soulmate/lifebond later in life, there would be nothing I could do to save my marriage, the feeling would be so strong that nothing could stop the joining of the souls. Call it fate or call it destiny. To me it's a lifebond. And I get really excited just thinking about it. It may be cruel to my husband for thinking this but he also believes this to be true. Kerowynn k'Sheyna Clan Woad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 05:58:17 EST From: anderbdm-+AT+-juno.com (Dawn L. Anderson) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Chris's Dad Message-ID: <19961224.045732.20310.1.anderbdm-+AT+-juno.com> Chris I will be praying very hard for you and your father. I am so sorry you are going through this. Sorceress Iris/Dawn On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:40:25 GMT "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" writes: >Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com wrote: >> >> Sorry to drop a bomb on everyone, but Dad got worse. May not make it >through >> today. So please all of you who do this, Please pray for him. He >just does >> not want to let go. Fighting very very hard. >> >> Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:20:29 -0300 From: Eleonora To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Chris's Dad Message-ID: <32BFBC7D.23E2-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy> > > Mrocro-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > > > > Sorry to drop a bomb on everyone, but Dad got worse. May not make it through > > today. So please all of you who do this, Please pray for him. He just does > > not want to let go. Fighting very very hard. > > > > Chris > My prayers are with you, Chris. Hope things turn out well for you. We are all here for you. Love, Ele ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:20:38 -0300 From: Eleonora To: Mercedes Lackey Mailing List Subject: Aistes's Bday Message-ID: <32BFBC86.2A61-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy> Happy Bday Aistes. May you enjoy yourself a lot and have your share of Bday and Xmas presents. I would like to give you a magical videotape. It willplay whatever movie you want. Even our Misty list compiled dream cast movie for a Misty movie. You will even have the songs we suggested as background. Love, Ele ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1030 **********************************