MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1045

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) ShadowWolf / Country & Casting / name / Kaled'a'in / PiersA
	by Melanie Harris <mmharris-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au>
  2) Once again, I return
	by Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
  3) Something Else
	by Liseth-+AT+-aol.com
  4) Re: sign your mail!/Names/Misty Casting/recordings/end of vanyel and companion sub.
	by "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" <wayaadis-+AT+-inreach.com>
  5) Re: Misty Casting/recordings/end of vanyel and companion sub.
	by "Tasha MacClellan" <xenagoo-+AT+-www.hotmail.com>
  6) Re: Something Else
	by SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com
  7) Re: Misty Casting
	by WinterRobin <wayaadis-+AT+-inreach.com>
  8) de-lurk
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  9) i'm a newbie
	by Jan <janprins-+AT+-mindspring.com>
 10) Re: Misty Casting
	by LCM46-+AT+-aol.com
 11) Names
	by Empress100-+AT+-aol.com
 12) Re: Welcome SHADOWWOLF /Restoree
	by davidt-+AT+-cet.com (D H Tiffany/Shawn Marie Walker)
 13) Re: ShadowWolf / Country & Casting / name / Kaled'a'in / PiersA
	by Jaguar <rholsen-+AT+-gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
 14) trouble in the archives
	by Faranheit-+AT+-aol.com
 15) Re: trouble in the archives/Cennydd's web page too
	by DebMats-+AT+-aol.com
 16) Stuff
	by Morgause Eire <selly-+AT+-geocities.com>
 17) Welcome/Books
	by Beverly Steele <BSTEELE-+AT+-PPP.State.SC.US>
 18) Re: Welcome/Books
	by "Tasha MacClellan" <xenagoo-+AT+-www.hotmail.com>
 19) ADMIN: FAQ stuff
	by Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
 20) Welcome Jayenna/Juno/S&SIII
	by Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
 21) elves/ice skating!/sorry
	by "Emily L Cartier" <ecartier-+AT+-engr.udayton.edu>
 22) ice skating in Velgarth
	by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner)
 23) Re: Something Else
	by Mark Severson <markttz-+AT+-eonet.com>
 24) Re: ice skating in Velgarth
	by Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>

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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:33:07 +1000
From: Melanie Harris <mmharris-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: ShadowWolf / Country & Casting / name / Kaled'a'in / PiersA
Message-ID: <32D04843.10E-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au>

Hugs to everyone who welcomed me back! And "hi" and hugs to moooore newbies! 

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Brian/ShadowWolf said:
> Well, Mel and Cennydd thought that I should pick a name from one of Misty's
> books also they just didn't like the name ShadowWolf.

Errrr... no, actually I quite like ShadowWolf as a name, and quite frankly I 
absolutely *loathe* it when someone picks a character's name straight out of 
a book. (Sorry, Kerowynn, nothing personal - it just pushes one of my 
buttons.) I do, however, like it when someone takes the time to work out 
their own name in the same *style* as the book, so yaaaaay ShadowWolf! <g>

<puzzled look> ShadowWolf, I'm almost certain that this is the first thing 
I've said on-list about usenames, and I *know* I didn't send you any private 
mail... I doubt our Beloved Listmistress Mel would do so, and I don't offhand 
know of any other Mels on the list... and Cennyd says he didn't object to the 
name either. Soooo... either you got your wires crossed and attributed 
someone else's protest to us, or there's someone out there taking our names 
in vain. Hmmmmm. I hope it's crossed wires. Do you still have the message(s), 
or did you delete?

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Kory said:
> --nor can I imagine the horrible thought of defiling Misty with...country!
> <sheeps from Akiko and Ken;>

and Aistes protested:
> Hey that was a low blow.  What would you rather have country or heavy metal
> for Misty music.

Well, those aren't exactly the only two choices! <g> I think Kory wants filk, 
not metal, and I've gotta agree with him (and everyone else who thinks that 
way - last time we had a flurry of "soundtrack for Misty movies" messages, I 
think most of 'em wanted filk. Heather Alexander!!!!!). Country. Ack! (I got 
seriously overdosed on *shudder* BAD country when I visited my sister a while 
ago. She has an all-Country station on ALL DAY as background noise. Ptooie.)

Hmmmm. This got me thinking of casting Misty movies... to the best of my 
admittedly not-perfect recollection, nobody's ever suggested my personal 
favourite ideas. David Bowie as one of the Tayledras! (Starwind? Starblade? 
Iceshadow? I think Iceshadow.) I mean, remember him as Jareth in Labyrinth! 
Yumyumyum! He was even dressed right! And we absolutely HAVE to put Lou 
Diamond Phillips in as one of the Shin'a'in! (I don't care WHO, just so long 
as he's on-screen a lot!) <drool, drool>

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Lydia wrote:
> Hey, I'm trying to come up  with a good Shin'i'in name.  Anybody have some
> serious suggestions, and is willing to help, I'd be most thankful.

Well, you want serious suggestions, so I won't say "Fred". <g> (Actually, I'm 
terrible at thinking up names - when I'm writing characters I spend a lot of 
time looking through "unusual name" books.) If there's an animal you 
particularly like, you could use that with something in front - like <g> 
ShadowWolf, or <rummages through memory for names from books> Suncat... 
err... or you take something from nature and add it to something that fits 
*your* nature, like Dawnfire, Skyseeker, Starblade, stuff like that. Have 
fun! Think up several, write 'em down, and see which looks or sounds best to 
you. And ignore anyone who says "It stinks"! <g> If you like it, keep it!

> Re: Kaled'a'in.  I'm a bit confused here.  The Kaled'a'in are the same
> group that Amberdrake and Skan led through the Gate, eventually ending up
> with the Haileigh, right? (Black Gryphon).

The Kaled'a'in were several clans, including Kena Leshya'nay (Spirit Clan). 
When they were evacuating, the Spirit Clan, led by Amberdrake and Skan, ended 
up in a different place from the rest; they stayed Kaled'a'in while the other 
clans split up into Shin'a'in and Tayledras.

> In Winds of Change (p 438) Treyvan explains that the Kena Leshya'nay were
> led by Amberdrake and Skan had been "sent away to find a refuge, and didn't
> use the Gates to evacuate.  Yet Amberdrake, Winterhart, and several others
> did.  And Skan, Aubri, and Kechara escaped from Ma'ar's stronghold through
> a gate to Urtho's tower, and then through another Gate to meet up with
> Amberdrake's party.  So, how did they meet with each other?  It sounds like
> there were two different parties of the Kaled'a'in.  Or conflicting
> stories, anybody have any ideas?

Welllll, it could be that the history Treyvan learnt was distorted over time. 
(Gotta find my copy of Black Gryphon and have a look...) I *think*, from 
memory, that part of Kena Leshya'nay - the noncombatants and some guards - 
were sent away some time before everything fell apart totally, because Urtho 
knew that evacuation would be necessary eventually and wanted to get at least 
part of it done in advance so that there wouldn't be a mad rush at the end. I 
can't remember if they used a Gate or not. Then the assassin got him, and 
there *was* a mad rush, during which the rest of the clan (including 
Amberdrake and Winterhart) went through a Gate to join those that had gone on 
ahead... soooo, at the very least they didn't use the *same* Gates as 
everyone else.

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liha'irden wrote:
> that's all... i'm sure a good fifteen people will disagree with half of
> this post, so i'm bracing myself.

Nope - I agree with almost all of that <g> - except the Piers Anthony thing. 
I think the first three or four of his Incarnations of Immortality series are 
pretty good, yes, but the rest of 'em... *gack*. He ended up just repeating 
stuff he'd written for the earlier books, from a different point of view. 
Verrrry annoying. (Yawn, snore, I read this already...)


Mel the Redcap
Redcap of the Pink Wand
Knight of the Order of Amber and Marigold
Goddess of Supernaturally Scary Socks (not digests!)

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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:56:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Once again, I return
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961230185348.26321A-100000-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>

Yet again I am back.  Who is still here? 

I _finally_ got my hands on Storm Breaking.
Is it me or does this one seem not quite up to par?
I'm really just getting started, and keep hoping it'll 
improve.  (sighs longing for the vintage Misty years)

-Vrondi a.k.a Chrys Amy Dean, a.k.a Free Bard Oriole.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"To light a candle is to cast a shadow..."
-"A Wizard of Earthsea" by Ursula K. LeGuin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/book


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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 19:28:18 -0500
From: Liseth-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Something Else
Message-ID: <970105192817_1190492267-+AT+-emout17.mail.aol.com>

Since David seemed intent on thinking everything I do is wrong, I have to
say...
OKAY! OKAY! I STAND CORRECTED!
It might be that I hardly ever read short stories and I never pay ANY
attention to dates whatsoever period.  It also might be that I never looked
at the digests, so how can I know what was over discussed?  I'm a newbie.
As for backing up under tables, I seem to have a lot to fear if all the
responses to my posts end up like that.

Mat:  There was a sequel to _Mythology 101_?!!!  How did that happen?  When
did that come out?  How did I miss it?  What am I going on about?

Mark wrote
>I think the tortoise died.
Is that supposed to be an oblique reference to Pterry's _Small Gods_?  This
is supposed to be a Misty list.  Anyway, the tortoise was a god, how could he
die.

Liseth

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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 17:05:54 -0800
From: "Kerowynn k'Sheyna" <wayaadis-+AT+-inreach.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: sign your mail!/Names/Misty Casting/recordings/end of vanyel and companion sub.
Message-ID: <32D04FF2.668B-+AT+-inreach.com>

Liseth-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> There have been an increasing number of unsigned posts landing in my
> mail-box.  How do I know who to attribute remarks to if they aren't >signed?
> 
I admit to having one unsigned post BUT that wasn't my fault, I wasn't
even done with it so I saved it and my husband (I think) accidently sent
it when he checked the mail! But I assure you that it won't happen again
on my part. :)

Melanie Harris wrote:
>Errrr... no, actually I quite like ShadowWolf as a name, and quite >frankly I 
>absolutely *loathe* it when someone picks a character's name straight >out of 
>a book. (Sorry, Kerowynn, nothing personal - it just pushes one of my 
>buttons.)

Geez, why am I the only one that gets picked on?? The name Vanyel is
being used and so is Kory (IIRC from your first post to me when I first
joined)! I don't remember Kerowyn in BTS or the Winds trilogy using the
name k'Sheyna or having TWO 'n's in her name, so technically the name I
chose (months before I joined this list) is not from the book and can't
be considered copyright infringement (in case anyone was wondering).
Lots of people pick names out of books to show how much they like or
want to be like that character. But if using this name causes you so
much distress well then I guess I'll change it.  It just gets confusing
to have people from different places calling you by different names, I
was planning on sticking with two names, my real name, Running Wolf and
Kerowynn k'Sheyna. But Running Wolf wouldn't be original since everyone
and their grandma seems to be using it nowadays. So I'll get a new one
for this list. TINAF

>Hmmmm. This got me thinking of casting Misty movies... to the best of >my 
>admittedly not-perfect recollection, nobody's ever suggested my >personal 
>favourite ideas. David Bowie as one of the Tayledras! (Starwind? >Starblade? 
>Iceshadow? I think Iceshadow.) I mean, remember him as Jareth in >Labyrinth! 
>Yumyumyum! He was even dressed right! And we absolutely HAVE to put Lou 
>Diamond Phillips in as one of the Shin'a'in! (I don't care WHO, just so >long 
>as he's on-screen a lot!) <drool, drool>

This is agreeable! Though I think David Bowie would make a great
Firesong, and Lou Diamond Phillips could be Darkwind. What about Winona
Ryder playing Elspeth? I think that would be cool, she has the young,
bratty look about her. And maybe Glenn Close playing Queen Selenay (she
did a good job in Hamlet). 

Emily the Invisible wrote:
>You don't like different versions differently?! Wow, I like Les Mis and >West
>Side Story cause I found out just how much your understanding of the >song
>improves by hearing it done many different ways, sucessful or not. And
>sometimes nothing will ever top the version you see live, with all your
>friends in it, doing things you _never_ thought that they would _ever_ >do!

I said "usually" not "always", I have seen Les Miz live and I've seen
PTO live, but in both cases the original cast recording was better. 

liha'irden wrote:
>someone asked why vanyel isn't a companion.  i think because his soul 
>is all happy in that little vale or whatever with stefan/tylendel. 
>(mage winds) i mean, if you could spend eternity hanging ot with your 
>lifebonded, wouldn't you?

Yeah I asked that questions and finally got my answer. I had forgotten
that Vanyel was given a choice and he chose to guard the northern border
of Valdemar. And I'm pretty sure he's happy being there :) 


WinterRobin (formally known as Kerowynn k'Sheyna)

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Date: 6 Jan 1997 02:44:08 -0000
From: "Tasha MacClellan" <xenagoo-+AT+-www.hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Misty Casting/recordings/end of vanyel and companion sub.
Message-ID: <19970106024408.24798.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>


>>Hmmmm. This got me thinking of casting Misty movies... to the best of >my
>>admittedly not-perfect recollection, nobody's ever suggested my >personal 
>>favourite ideas. David Bowie as one of the Tayledras! (Starwind? >Starblade? 
>>Iceshadow? I think Iceshadow.) I mean, remember him as Jareth in >Labyrinth! 
>>Yumyumyum! He was even dressed right! And we absolutely HAVE to put Lou 
>>Diamond Phillips in as one of the Shin'a'in! (I don't care WHO, just so >long

>>as he's on-screen a lot!) <drool, drool>
>
>This is agreeable! Though I think David Bowie would make a great
>Firesong, and Lou Diamond Phillips could be Darkwind. What about Winona
>Ryder playing Elspeth? I think that would be cool, she has the young,
>bratty look about her. And maybe Glenn Close playing Queen Selenay (she
>did a good job in Hamlet). 

Oooo, I like the idea of Winona Ryder as Elspeth!  Just one teeny insignificant
problem...one of the things Elspeth's complaining about is the fact that she
thinks she looks plain.  Darkwind echoes this by saying that she doesn't look
good in her Whites.  I'm afraid Winona Ryder isn't plain enough (but we can
definately look over that!)

I also like Glenn Close as Selenay.

I think that Richard Gere (sp?) would be an excellent Skif.  In fact, if you
look at the pic Larry Dixon did of Skif in WoFate, I think he had him in mind
when he drew Skif.  Richard Gere also has that ex-theif/soldier/assassin look
to him.

I also like Adrian Paul as Darkwind (Darkwind's supposed to be around 30,
right?).  That's my yummy.

Okay, that's all I have to say about that.

Icesong (sure that her name was used in a book, but she just didn't know it)


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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 22:08:56 -0500
From: SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Something Else
Message-ID: <970105220856_978187386-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-01-05 19:57:29 EST, Lisith wrote:

<< Since David seemed intent on thinking everything I do is wrong, I have to
 say...
 OKAY! OKAY! I STAND CORRECTED!
 It might be that I hardly ever read short stories and I never pay ANY
 attention to dates whatsoever period.  It also might be that I never looked
 at the digests, so how can I know what was over discussed?  I'm a newbie.
 As for backing up under tables, I seem to have a lot to fear if all the
 responses to my posts end up like tha >>

Whoooo there, take a deep breath and one of these chocolate-chip sheep-shaped
cookies.  I reread David's message, and I kind-of really think he was only
adding some specifics to your thoughts on McCaffrey.  Come on out from under
the table <g> you've just got to build up your confidence a tad.

Those of us who've been around the sci/fi/fantacy world for as long as David
(obviously) and I (definitely) have seen those series develope.  I remember
when there were only 2 dragon books of Pern!!  Now that I have a fantasy
reader in my own family, I have to be careful not to overload him with "read
this, and this, and this, and this!!"  You'll learn the history of your
favorite series eventually, and no one expects you to know it all at once.  I
think it's just that urge to overload the convert with ALL the history all at
once.
 Keep posting.  We love you.

Meg :the self-appointed Warm Welcome Distribution Agent
                            Franchises issued upon request

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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 19:27:56 -0800
From: WinterRobin <wayaadis-+AT+-inreach.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Misty Casting
Message-ID: <32D0713C.188B-+AT+-inreach.com>

Tasha MacClellan wrote:
> 
> >>Hmmmm. This got me thinking of casting Misty movies... to the best of >my
> >>admittedly not-perfect recollection, nobody's ever suggested my >personal
> >>favourite ideas. David Bowie as one of the Tayledras! (Starwind? >Starblade?
> >>Iceshadow? I think Iceshadow.) I mean, remember him as Jareth in >Labyrinth!
> >>Yumyumyum! He was even dressed right! And we absolutely HAVE to put Lou
> >>Diamond Phillips in as one of the Shin'a'in! (I don't care WHO, just so >long
> 
> >>as he's on-screen a lot!) <drool, drool>
> >
> >This is agreeable! Though I think David Bowie would make a great
> >Firesong, and Lou Diamond Phillips could be Darkwind. What about Winona
> >Ryder playing Elspeth? I think that would be cool, she has the young,
> >bratty look about her. And maybe Glenn Close playing Queen Selenay (she
> >did a good job in Hamlet).
> 
> Oooo, I like the idea of Winona Ryder as Elspeth!  Just one teeny insignificant
> problem...one of the things Elspeth's complaining about is the fact that she
> thinks she looks plain.  Darkwind echoes this by saying that she doesn't look
> good in her Whites.  I'm afraid Winona Ryder isn't plain enough (but we can
> definately look over that!)
> 
> I also like Glenn Close as Selenay.
> 
> I think that Richard Gere (sp?) would be an excellent Skif.  In fact, if you
> look at the pic Larry Dixon did of Skif in WoFate, I think he had him in mind
> when he drew Skif.  Richard Gere also has that ex-theif/soldier/assassin look
> to him.
> 
> I also like Adrian Paul as Darkwind (Darkwind's supposed to be around 30,
> right?).  That's my yummy.
> 
That's why I think Winona would be good, she _doesn't_ look good in
white IRL and Elspeth is really kind of pretty, not beautiful but
pretty, and if they put a lot of makeup on Winona they could make her
look plain then throughout the movie they could start restoring her
natural look *smyle* And yeah I just looked at the pic of Skif and he
does kinda resemble Richard Gere. Wasn't Gere in a medieval film
before?? He would be a cool choice for Skif.  What about Sean Connery
playing Daren?! And I think James Earl Jones could do a great job as
Treyvan, if he could learn to stutter (?) well hehe.  Sorry to you guys
if this is an old subject but I think it's fun to think of who would be
the best actor(tress) to play in your favorite book.  I just hope that
if they DO make a movie it doesn't turn out like the movie for Flowers
in The Attic did (shiver).

Wait! You said Adrian Paul?!?!  WOW! I didn't even think of him! hmmmm

WinterRobin

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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 22:28:58 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: Gyrfalcon Gyrfalcon <MSOWERS-+AT+-MENGER.EECS.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>,
Subject: de-lurk
Message-ID: <199701052229_MC1-E34-F8-+AT+-compuserve.com>

Heyla all! Happy new year, etc, etc.

I'm in the midst of changing mail servers since WOW is to be discontinued
on the 31st. new addy will be rozanm-+AT+-juno.com

does anyone know if the unsub/sub commands for the mage-war are the same
as for the misty list?

Firemist

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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 23:08:18 -0500
From: Jan <janprins-+AT+-mindspring.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: i'm a newbie
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970106040818.00683ed0-+AT+-pop.mindspring.com>

Hey, y'all!  I'm Jayenna.  I'm a newbie- Ive read all Misty's stuff except
SoI and SB.  I also like McCaffery's Dragons, all of MZBradley, and Ann
Rice's Vampire stuff.  
  
to Kerowynn K'Shena------NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!Dont change your name.
Ive been lurking for a while , and am just starting to figure out who is
whoand I will get TOTALLY confused if you do.  Besides, I think its a cool
name.:)

                                        Jayenna


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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 23:17:08 -0500
From: LCM46-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Misty Casting
Message-ID: <970105231707_1723179435-+AT+-emout13.mail.aol.com>

Hi all-------
           Richard Gere as Skif??????????????NONONONONONO!!!!!!!
Gere is all of 48 years old-----MUCH TOO OLD to be playing Skif-----granted,
he ain't too bad looking, and given the miracles that can be done with
makeup--he's still too damn old!  (I graduated high school with one of his
sisters in '64, and my sister graduated with him in '67---he was a geek with
a pocket protector at that time.)  My
other "claim to {near} fame" is that another of my classmates married Loni
Anderson (and she dumped him for Burt Reynolds), and another is an astronaut.
 (Good old North Syracuse High School--the fond memories------YECCHHHHH!!!!!!
 Tom Cruise is
also from my area---got any ideas for him????????  I am very un-imaginative
tonight--it's been a long day, so faces and characters aren't matching up in
my head very well.    Gere could be Prince Daren, or some other such "mature"
character, huh???

Descending once more into the damnable basement, where the washer and dryer
are,  I remain                      

                   Lorraine
Goddess of Domesticity/Laundry


But I'm not dead yet?
    MP/Holy Grail

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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 23:27:48 -0500
From: Empress100-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Names
Message-ID: <970105232747_1622193670-+AT+-emout16.mail.aol.com>

I also have to say that I don't think you should change your name Kerowynn.
 I like it just the way it is.

Zhai'helleva,
David
(whose name has been used in many books but is just to stubborn to change.
:->  )

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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:33:17 -0800
From: davidt-+AT+-cet.com (D H Tiffany/Shawn Marie Walker)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Welcome SHADOWWOLF /Restoree
Message-ID: <arH0ywHqhZJZ088yn-+AT+-cet.com>

SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 97-01-04 18:27:11 EST, David wrote:
>
><< BTW, am I the only one who wishes that, since Ms McCaffery seems to only 
> be interested in revisting old stories these days, that we could get some 
> more set in the "Restoree" novels universe? >>
>
>Wasn't that a great tale??  Yup, I'd love to read more about that universe
>and it seems to me (tho I haven't read it in a while) that there were strings
>left dangling which could lead to a new book.    Aaah, what is life with
>nothing to hope for!

I'd really llove to see her brothers faces when they found out what happened
to her-if the louts even noticed she was gone!

OBMisty: Had one just he  other day, now what was it????? Oh yeah, Who did
Elspeth the Peacemaker make peace with? I was rereading LHM the other day
and it occurred to me that I didn't know how she got that title. Not by  
making peace with the Karsites, obviously, so who??

David Tiffany, God of tyops

(Boy am I gonna feel dumb when the textevd rushes in on *that* one!)


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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:28:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Jaguar <rholsen-+AT+-gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: ShadowWolf / Country & Casting / name / Kaled'a'in / PiersA
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970106001853.21498A-100000-+AT+-gateway.us.sidwell.edu>

On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Melanie Harris wrote:

> Hmmmm. This got me thinking of casting Misty movies... to the best of my 
> admittedly not-perfect recollection, nobody's ever suggested my personal 
> favourite ideas. David Bowie as one of the Tayledras! (Starwind? Starblade? 
> Iceshadow? I think Iceshadow.) I mean, remember him as Jareth in Labyrinth! 
> Yumyumyum! He was even dressed right! And we absolutely HAVE to put Lou 
> Diamond Phillips in as one of the Shin'a'in! (I don't care WHO, just so long 
> as he's on-screen a lot!) <drool, drool>
> 
	Hmm.. now where is that.. <Jaguar pokes around> A-ha! <dons Keeper
of the Master Cast List> David (turning 50!! Happy b-day Bowie!
<long-distance POUNCE! on DB>) Bowie was nominated and seconded for
Firesong, and if you look in.. I think it's Swarning, but I'm not sure, he
really looks like DB! As for Lou Diamond Phillips... oh, hell, anyone want
me to post the cast list again, say so. 

	But guys, seriously. Please keep the casting suggestions to a dull
roar (or at the very least just send them to me, I keep a record.. Jake,
do you need an update for your page?) You know, that really should be on
the list of Previously, On The List topics if it isn't already. </any
whining noted in the last paragraph, sorry, I'm really starting to feel
old now!> <half-sheepish gryn>

			Blessed be,
			    Jaguar


Leader of the Cat People      J: "You're robbing a govt installation,
Goddess of Large Hunter Cats  Isn't that treason or something?"
Chronicler of the Mage Wars   K: "Your point is what?"
Lady in Green 		          -- Det. Jordan and Kermit
Knight of Amber and Marigold      Kung Fu: The Legend Continues




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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 03:15:20 -0500
From: Faranheit-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: trouble in the archives
Message-ID: <970106031519_1558871358-+AT+-emout20.mail.aol.com>

  I've been trying to go through some of the digests that I didn't get a
chance to read before.  I went to the mailing page and clicked on the adress
for the archives, only I got a message saying  
        
                       USER IDENTIFICATION FAILED
                        Sorry but your screen name could not be validated by
the web software. Please try again in a few minutes
                
   I've tried several times and I keep getting this message.  Has anyone else
gotten this and might know what is going on?

Peony





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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 03:42:46 -0500
From: DebMats-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: trouble in the archives/Cennydd's web page too
Message-ID: <970106034245_1123443951-+AT+-emout20.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-01-06 03:32:01 EST, Peony wrote:

> I've been trying to go through some of the digests that I didn't get a
> chance to read before.  I went to the mailing page and clicked on the
adress
> for the archives, only I got a message saying  
        
 >                      USER IDENTIFICATION FAILED
 >                      Sorry but your screen name could not be validated by
>                       the web software. Please try again in a few minutes
                
>   I've tried several times and I keep getting this message.  Has anyone
else
>   gotten this and might know what is going on?

I've gotten this error too.  I was visiting Cennydd's web page & every time I
clicked on 
an icon (ie Mercedes Lackey page) from there, I got the above message.
Is it an AOL problem?  (both Peony & I are on AOL)  Anyone else getting the
error?
..
deb

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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 18:32:32 -0800
From: Morgause Eire <selly-+AT+-geocities.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <32D1B5C0.33DF-+AT+-geocities.com>

Well, I'm just putting in my $0.02 worth here, but I think they should
get Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice to do the music for the Misty movie.
Oh well, that's just my opinion

Has anyone read Secret of the Sixth Magic by Lyndon Hardy? I think its a
great book (I got in a used bookstore in Wellington). I wish I could find
the book its a kind of sequel to, Master of the Five Magics. I haven't
seen it anywhere but in used  book stores in New Zealand, and I don't
know if we're going back there. Amazon.com doesn't have it (I checked). I
think I read some book somewhere which had a good explanation of mind
magics and that kind of stuff, but I can't remember who it was by, what
it was called or even what the plot was! AHHHHHHHHH!

                                                        Gotta Go Now,
                                                        Morgause

PS Oh yeah, I was thinking of changing my name to "Catchfire"

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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 09:31:10 -0500
From: Beverly Steele <BSTEELE-+AT+-PPP.State.SC.US>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Welcome/Books
Message-ID: <s2d0c585.053-+AT+-gw.state.sc.us>

Heyla everyone!

First off, Welcome to all the Newbies!!  I'm somewhat of a newbie myself,
but I'm sure you'll enjoy it here.

The Brainless one (that's me) is delurking for a moment.  (Since I get my
access through work, my silly boss thinks I should be WORKING instead
of doing interesting stuff like reading the list.)  Anyway, I'm brainless
because I went to the bookstore this weekend to get more Misty books (I
borrowed all the ones I read, now I want my own copies.)  And there
they were.... [dramatic music on] both volumes of the OathBound books. 
I have one, I only need the other.  So which do I buy?  [dramatic
crescendo]  THE ONE I ALREADY HAVE!!!!!!!!!!! (<--note the number!)
[dramatic music off]

So the  jist of this is that I have a copy of the first volume of the
Oathbound series available if anyone wants it.  I figured some of you
students who are "financially challenged" for books might like a freeby. 
Anyone who would like it, please just E-mail me privately, and I'll pop it in
the mail to the first asker.   (Bevie bangs head on wall and mutters "I will
carry list of books I own at all times.  I will carry books I own at all times.)

Obmisty:  (Doesn't the book count?  Oh well, let's see)  Something that
has always bothered me (and unfortunately, me-+AT+-work, books-+AT+-home)
about Knights of Ghosts and Shadows -  Eric saw the "bad elf" (who's
name escapes me) riding in a limousine.  His daughter was also driving a
car.  Now it mentions in the second book that it was painful (but not
mortally so) for Kory to ride in the mostly plastic car.  Now I could
assume that the limo was an elven steed, but Misty never mentioned
anything about Rhia (? the daughter) having one.  IIRC the Savannah
Elves said there was a big deal made when one was given an Elven
steed, but Rhia was never accepted by the elves in California because
she was partly human.  So I don't really see her being given an steed.  I
could be wrong, have been before, will be again.

So, does being partially human give her some protection from the allergy
to iron?  (Weak I know, but since it's keeping me up at night, I though I'd
ask.)

Bevie
BSTEELE-+AT+-PPP.STATE.SC.US

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Date: 6 Jan 1997 15:48:10 -0000
From: "Tasha MacClellan" <xenagoo-+AT+-www.hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Welcome/Books
Message-ID: <19970106154810.18099.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Alright!  Something I ~know~ about!!!

>Obmisty:  (Doesn't the book count?  Oh well, let's see)  Something that
>has always bothered me (and unfortunately, me-+AT+-work, books-+AT+-home)
>about Knights of Ghosts and Shadows -  Eric saw the "bad elf" (who's
>name escapes me) riding in a limousine.  His daughter was also driving a
>car.  Now it mentions in the second book that it was painful (but not
>mortally so) for Kory to ride in the mostly plastic car.  Now I could
>assume that the limo was an elven steed, but Misty never mentioned
>anything about Rhia (? the daughter) having one.

The limo may or may not have been an elvensteed.  If you'll recall, elves can
protect themselves from Cold Iron by silk.  Every time iron is handled
(including by the human mage Tannim, which is another question entirely) the
handler has silk-lined gloves or the iron is wrapped in silk.  Whoever was
elven in the limo could have just been wearing silk, like Tannim wears his
armor underneath his clothes.
  
>IIRC the Savannah
>Elves said there was a big deal made when one was given an Elven
>steed, but Rhia was never accepted by the elves in California because
>she was partly human.  So I don't really see her being given an steed.  I
>could be wrong, have been before, will be again.
>So, does being partially human give her some protection from the allergy
>to iron?  (Weak I know, but since it's keeping me up at night, I though I'd
>ask.)

It might have protected her in part, but I think that she probably still had
some aversion to iron.  That's probably something you can't escape, even when
you're partially elven.  And I don't think that the Powers That Be in the elven
world would let a child, be it all elf or partially, go without the protection
of an elvensteed.

Anybody wanna try?  Why does Tannim have to use silk gloves to handle iron if
he's a human mage?

Hope this helps!

Icesong


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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:20:37 GMT
From: Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
To: mercedes-lackey
Subject: ADMIN: FAQ stuff
Message-ID: <199701061620.QAA01659-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>

Could those of you who've expressed interest in writing FAQ bits and pieces
please drop me a line off-list? I'm trying to keep track of who's doing what
and when. I think this applies to Jake (information), Cennydd (frequently
questioned answers :)) and Cindy (bibliography) at least, and possibly
others (who's got the Acronym list these days? Mishi? Jerry, should we add 
something to the FAQ about reviews?)

Cheers

Mel

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:54:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Welcome Jayenna/Juno/S&SIII
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961231135329.30105C-100000-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>

Jayenna wrote:
>Hey, y'all!  I'm Jayenna.  I'm a newbie- Ive read all Misty's stuff
>except SoI and SB.  I also like McCaffery's Dragons, all of MZBradley,
>and Ann Rice's Vampire stuff.

Well come you are to the list!
_____________________________________________________________________
Firemist: 
Another Juno enthusiast! Is that program great or what? I certainly love
it!
_____________________________________________________________________
Since I've been off-list for a couple of months, I don't remember what I
was talking about when I left! So, I finally got my hands on
S&SIII!!!!!!!!  "Sword Sworn" was simply terrific! One of those misty
things that grabs you and holds on. everyone should endeavor to find that
one. Maybe if _every one_ of us wrote begging letters Misty'd re-publish
it?
_____________________________________________________________________

-Vrondi a.k.a Chrys Amy Dean, a.k.a Free Bard Oriole.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"To light a candle is to cast a shadow..."
-"A Wizard of Earthsea" by Ursula K. LeGuin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/book


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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:24:47 -0500
From: "Emily L Cartier" <ecartier-+AT+-engr.udayton.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: elves/ice skating!/sorry
Message-ID: <9701061928.AA11595-+AT+-udecc.engr.udayton.edu>

OK, I'm now back at my UD addy! My roommate moved out over break so 
it took me two forevers to get all my stuff back in the room (ouch!). 
And now that classes have started my shoulders are SORE! Then I came 
back and found 379 emails in my mailbox... listproc didn't like me 
putting in No Subject for a subject on my postpone message. Has 
anyone else had the same prob?

Bevie said:
>Eric saw the "bad elf" (who's name escapes me) riding in a 
>limousine.
Perenor. He's Ria's dad.

She continues:
>His daughter was also driving a car.
<snip stuff about elves and Cold Iron>
Well, I can see it a coupla ways. In BtR, Keighvin can touch iron 
with only a few problems, and there are a couple of other local elves 
with the same ability. Apparently they mmm... gave themselves 
"allergy shots" against Cold Iron. Ria's half human, so that could 
makes the iron allergy less of a problem (or it could make it 
_worse_). Or Ria could've been given an elvensteed.

Icesong said:
>If you'll recall, elves can protect themselves from Cold Iron by 
>silk.  Every time iron is handled (including by the human mage 
>Tannim, which is another question entirely) the handler has
>silk-lined gloves or the iron is wrapped in silk.
Well, in other magical systems (Deryni especially), anything can be 
wrapped in silk as a kind of cheap, nonmagical protection. I remember 
Tanimn kept his enchanted crowbar wrapped in silk, and all weaponry 
on the Fairgrove site was wrapped in silk too. And I remember someone 
warning Sam that all iron should be wrapped in silk as a kind of 
insulation. They probably didn't say the insulation part out loud, 
but I heard it as a kind of subtext. 

Tygriss said:
>Third:  I watched Too Hot to Skate on CBS this evening and was 
>wondering if there were any skating competitions held in Velgarth. 
>Possibly down near Lake Evendim?
Ooh! Another skating fan! I didn't get back here til late yesterday 
cause Mary and I wanted to watch Too Hot to Skate. It was worth it 
too. I have no idea if there are skating competitions on Velgarth. I 
would think that you would need a largeish lake that freezes pretty 
solidly to even get started skating. An ice fishing lake would 
probably work...

Jake said:
>Emily, I would like to say that I take issue with your 
>denunciation of astrology.  Sure, you may not believe in it, but it 
>is kind of intolerant to debunk it in front of the list, since a 
>goodly number of us are of the pagan persuasion and out of that a lot 
>of us believe in it.  Don't mark us off as silly.  
This bit caused a lot of thinking, and then I went back and 
looked at what I wrote again. What I was thinking of when I chose 
astrology was those little two or three sentance horoscopes in the 
daily newspaper, or in just about every woman's magazine in creation. 
I also purposely discarded tarot, palmistry and I Ching cause I know 
that some of the pagans onlist may use them. Try replacing astrology 
with calculus or physics and see if your reaction is warrented, Jake 
(because I'm fairly sure that at least one of the early users of 
calculus believed it could be used for predicting the future...). And 
I _don't know_ much about neopagans! If I screw up, don't scold me 
like I should know better. Tell me so I don't make the same mistake 
again, and explain _why_. I've spent half my life explaining 
Catholicism to Protestants, and it would be nice if others would 
explain their religions to me.

Emily the invisible, who doesn't want to touch off anything



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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 13:43:35 -0600
From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: ice skating in Velgarth
Message-ID: <199701061941.AA151649692-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu>


>Tygriss said:
>>Third:  I watched Too Hot to Skate on CBS this evening and was 
>>wondering if there were any skating competitions held in Velgarth. 
>>Possibly down near Lake Evendim?

IIRC, didn't Talia go skating during one of the midwinter breaks at the
collegium?  The first break she spent with Jadus, but I swear skating is
mentioned somewhere in AotQ?  Texevd anyone (books-+AT+-home).

Nina Ehgartner
Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid
J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management
email:  nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
Phone: (847) 491-3308
Fax: (847) 491-4960


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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 12:21:57 -0800
From: Mark Severson <markttz-+AT+-eonet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Something Else
Message-ID: <32D15EE5.6042-+AT+-eonet.com>

Liseth-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> Mark wrote
> >I think the tortoise died.
> Is that supposed to be an oblique reference to Pterry's _Small Gods_?  This
> is supposed to be a Misty list.  Anyway, the tortoise was a god, how could he
> die.
> 
> Liseth

  I presume the above comment was a rebuke or flame?  Whatever.  To set the record straight "the 
tortoise" I was referring to was the extremly slow pace (ONE YEAR +) it took for the post office 
to deliver a letter to me.  While I am still a newbie I have noticed that there are other 
subjects touched on besides Misty's works.

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:20:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: ice skating in Velgarth
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961231151858.30798A-100000-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>

>Tygriss said:
>>Third:  I watched Too Hot to Skate on CBS this evening and was
>>wondering if there were any skating competitions held in Velgarth.
>>Possibly down near Lake Evendim?

>Nina Ehgartner replied:
>IIRC, didn't Talia go skating during one of the midwinter breaks at the
>collegium?  The first break she spent with Jadus, but I swear skating is
>mentioned somewhere in AotQ?  Texevd anyone (books-+AT+-home).

It was Talia's second winter break, and She and Keren and Sherril, and
someone else went skating.

-Vrondi a.k.a Chrys Amy Dean, a.k.a Free Bard Oriole.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"To light a candle is to cast a shadow..."
-"A Wizard of Earthsea" by Ursula K. LeGuin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/book


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