MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1346 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question by "Dawn Patrick" 2) Krebain=Ma'ar?/'Lendel/Falconsbane/Nightflyers by "Angie" 3) La la la by Eos419-+AT+-aol.com 4) Re: music anyone? by TaliaRolan-+AT+-aol.com 5) Re: La la la by Remmington Crothian 6) Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question by "Corinne Kays" 7) Re: La la la by "Corinne Kays" 8) Question by Tiffany_Moore-+AT+-post.wesleyan-college.edu (Tiffany Moore) 9) Re: Question by "ceinwyn the chameleon" 10) Re: Question by jeannie-+AT+-starmail.com 11) Re: Krebain=Ma'ar?/'Lendel/Falconsbane/Nightflyers by "Teresa D. Horne" 12) Re: Question by "Teresa D. Horne" 13) Re: LHM/SB/Fave Character by "Sarah Margaret " 14) Ma'ar, Falconsbane, Learath by dprono-+AT+-planet.eon.net 15) Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question by Stephen Ross 16) Re: Question by Susanna Warner 17) Re: falconsbane by Christie Maas 18) Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question by Christie Maas 19) Re: Question by Christie Maas 20) Re: Question by Heather Shannon 21) Re: Question by "Corinne Kays" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:37:48 +0100 From: "Dawn Patrick" To: Subject: Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question Message-ID: > Amber wrote : > > > > > I wonder if much of how Kris converses > with Tantras is due to Tantras' strengths in the mind gift as opposed to > Kris'. His primary gift is Far Sight, secondary is the mind speaking. > Could it be that Tantras was "boosting" him somewhat? You could be right. Kris certainly didn't have a strong mindspeaking gift because (a) he couldn't do the 2nd stage truth spell which requires a strong communications gift (b) he could have called for help when they were marooned by the storm. Skif also didn't have a strong mindspaeking gift yet he could converse easily with Cymry. Talia, however, obviously didn't have any (I think at one point in AotQ it was mentioned that her secondary gift was farsight). >(though, before I read the comment, I had never given it much thought) Nor me. > A lot of people have discussed: > Vanyel being self centred and whiney He was 16-17 in the first book. Teenagers are supposed to be self-centered and whiney - It's part of the job description. > Christie Maas started a conversation > about human-animal bondings We all have a tendency to anthropomorphise (correct spelling anyone? I'm not a social scientist and I'm too lazy to check a dictionary) our pets actions but I really do believe a friendship between an animal and a human is possible. I recently became an aunt for the first time. My sister and her daughter are living with my parents for a while and I keep getting gooey phone calls from my mother to tell me how well Jasmine is getting on with one of their cats. Apparently they talk to each other all the time in little grunts and googoo noises. >Yvonne wrote : > >At the end of MPawn, that blood > mage gated into the CENTER of the town square. Only the Eastern Empire > knows how to build gates without a terminous! (spelling?) Please explain > someone!!! :) I think you're right there. All through the LHM series whenever a gate was built a doorway or something had to be used at either end except there. And if the mage (I think it was Krebain wasn't it?) was another version of Maar, he can't have known because no other version of Maar did. And I just thought of another thing. Lendal used Van's energy to build a gate too but again only the eastern empire knows how to combine the energy of different people in order to gate, so how did Lendal know? Another question. How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had come accross them before as Krebain and Learath? I'm getting confused now. Dawn I have a quote but it's a little long and rather obscure : "Like a horse to the water, Or a lamb to the slaughter, I'm back with you I'm always the sucker, And you, your the ... well I'm just back with you that's all" Fascinating Aida 1994 (It was either this or orgasms) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:27:37 +0800 From: "Angie" To: Subject: Krebain=Ma'ar?/'Lendel/Falconsbane/Nightflyers Message-ID: <199709281329.VAA20010-+AT+-iron.singnet.com.sg> : And if the mage (I think it was Krebain wasn't it?) was another version of : Maar, he can't have known because no other version of Maar did. Krebain was a version of Ma'ar? *groanz* I thought that if Leareth was Ma'ar, he couldn't be Krebain? (we went through this topic in May) I _could_ be over-reacting here. : And I just thought of another thing. Lendal used Van's energy to build a : gate too but again only the eastern empire knows how to combine the energy : of different people in order to gate, so how did Lendal know? I don't think 'Lendel knew. He tapped through Van because of the bond between them. Because the bond existed, he could use it as a "channel", so to speak. I don't think that 'Lendel would be able to do the tapping thing with people other than his lifebonded. : Another question. How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had : come accross them before as Krebain and Learath? : Dawn Maybe he forgot? ;) OK, I've got a Qn: If Eric needed to summon the Nightflyers (in Urban Fantasies) to actually get the creatures to come into this universe, how did the gaki in DT (COtN) arrive? Through the Jeffries guy? And does anyone know of a David Eddings Mailing List? Thanx! Wind to Thy Wings Angie Mindmate to Raul (who is currently trying to relocate his family!) Elven Archer-Mage of Fairgrove >>~~~~~> Lady of OOPS NoiSe AppReNtice!!!!! /{\ -+AT+-####<-+AT+->:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> \{/ ICQ UIN: 2276722 Visit my homepage at ~> http:/members.tripod.com/~Shadowblade/index.html < self-advertisement, gotta hate it!;) > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 11:04:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Eos419-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: La la la Message-ID: <970928110425_-1195392585-+AT+-emout03.mail.aol.com> Well, I finished Owlflight this morning. My thoughts on it: S P O I L E R F O R O W L F L I G H T I see what you mean about it being juvenile. That's probably not a word I would pick, but it's there just the same. Like her last couple books, it started out OK but I thought the ending was disappointing. Did anyone else notice that it sorta stays on the same level the whole time? The "exciting" parts really weren't. Another thing I noticed about half way through was that almost everything that happens in this book happens in another one of her books at some point. Not that I didn't like it. It was very easy to read, had that Misty flavor. I give it two and a half stars. Good, but great. Is there going to be another one (or two)? It isn't listed as a trilogy. I actually hope there isn't; I think Misty should get out of the Reign of Selenay time period and give us some more history. Zhai'helleva Kaeldra ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 11:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: TaliaRolan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: music anyone? Message-ID: <970928110910_1697942520-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-09-28 01:58:20 EDT, you write: > does any one know the melody to Shadow-Lover or Winds Four Quarters? If so > can you E-mail me and tell me so? > Stormcloud You can order a copy of a CD or tape with the music on it from Firebird Arts and Music. Their mailing address can be found on the copyright page of most Misty books. I believe someone should add this info to the newbiefest...this question seems to come up a lot. hot cocoa-flavored, leaf-pile jumping sheep to all TaliaRolan-+AT+-aol.com Former Lurker, still sorry about the Sheep.exe thing ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:41:24 -0700 From: Remmington Crothian To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: La la la Message-ID: <342E88B4.288F-+AT+-ix.netcom.com> Eos419-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > > Well, I finished Owlflight this morning. My thoughts on it: > > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > > F > O > R > > O > W > L > F > L > I > G > H > T > > I see what you mean about it being juvenile. That's probably not a word I > would pick, but it's there just the same. Like her last couple books, it > started out OK but I thought the ending was disappointing. Actually, I didn't find the ending disappionting, just perdictible. In fact the whole book was easily guessed. Did anyone else > notice that it sorta stays on the same level the whole time? The "exciting" > parts really weren't. Another thing I noticed about half way through was > that almost everything that happens in this book happens in another one of > her books at some point. Not that I didn't like it. It was very easy to > read, had that Misty flavor. I give it two and a half stars. Good, but > great. Is there going to be another one (or two)? It isn't listed as a > trilogy. I actually hope there isn't; I think Misty should get out of the > Reign of Selenay time period and give us some more history. Most of her books seem rehashed, but I still enjoy them. The front of Owlflight listed some titles that were coming out, but what there about I don't know. The book wasn't bad, but wasn't her best either. Her next noel should (I hope) include some of the main characters from her other books. As of now I'm needing a score card to keep traack of everybody. And I also hope more thought is placed into the book with some original happenings. -- On the way back they sang a number of tuneful and reflective songs on the subjects of peace, justice, morality, culture, sport, family life and the obliteration of all other life forms. ................................ Attention, now we will sing the history of the pighead who stopped our beloved Red Baron!! ................................ ICQ 1438388 ................................ Sweet, check this out. I'm so Beefcake I can't get through the door! ................................ Remmington Crothian, 42nd Twit of the Palladium Mailing List ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 08:48:25 PDT From: "Corinne Kays" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question Message-ID: <19970928154826.4555.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> *SNIPPED PARTS OF THE MESSAGE I DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER** >> A lot of people have discussed: >> Vanyel being self centred and whiney > >He was 16-17 in the first book. Teenagers are supposed to be self-centered >and whiney - It's part of the job description. > He wastn't really whinny or self-centered. Vanyel came from a family that really didn't love/understand him, so he was used to taking care of himself. Because his family didn't really cared about him, Vanyel whinning was going to do him about as much good as umm...lemme see... Him whining would be like him acting like a 3 y/o wanting a cookiee and the parents know they don't have one and that the child doesn't need one. He was not self-centered, just very very shy an unsure of himself so he really didn't understand his feelings, BEsides that, if he had been that way, don't you think Yfandes would have mentally smacked him, like she did when Van was being a little punk to Stef. >Another question. How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had >come accross them before as Krebain and Learath? > >I'm getting confused now. > >Dawn > When Ma'ar was around there wasn't even a Valdemar yet, so he never met them that way. And when Kerbain met Vanyel I don't think he knew what the Whites meant. Here's another thing: You're SURE Learath was Ma'ar? I don't think him being able to transfer his spirit from his descendants means that he is responsible for EVERY dark mage in the Valdemar series. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 08:58:43 PDT From: "Corinne Kays" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: La la la Message-ID: <19970928155847.25422.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> >Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 16:24:18 +0100 (BST) >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >From: Eos419-+AT+-aol.com >To: makochanda-+AT+-hotmail.com >Subject: La la la > >Well, I finished Owlflight this morning. My thoughts on it: > > >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >F >O >R > >O >W >L >F >L >I >G >H >T > >I see what you mean about it being juvenile. That's probably not a word I >would pick, but it's there just the same. Like her last couple books, it >started out OK but I thought the ending was disappointing. Did anyone else >notice that it sorta stays on the same level the whole time? The "exciting" >parts really weren't. Another thing I noticed about half way through was >that almost everything that happens in this book happens in another one of >her books at some point. Not that I didn't like it. It was very easy to >read, had that Misty flavor. I give it two and a half stars. Good, but >great. Is there going to be another one (or two)? It isn't listed as a >trilogy. I actually hope there isn't; I think Misty should get out of the >Reign of Selenay time period and give us some more history. > >Zhai'helleva >Kaeldra > I agree, because Van was my fav character and TOO much happened inbetween each novel....she should really get a new Van book about his expolits in the Karse War (GEEZ! Another Karse War?!) BTW I just started reading Stormbreaker and Karal invalid, I tried reading Storm Warning, but had trouble getting into it. (I really didn't want to hear about a Karse demon priest and his apprentice.) Anyway back to my point, if anyone can tell what the *BEEEEP* happened to Karal in the second book I'd really um crap I can't spell, like it or something. Corinne mailto:makochanda-+AT+-hotmail.com Oh another question: Is Firebird Arts the ONLY place to get the ShadowStalker CD? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 12:41:18 -0400 From: Tiffany_Moore-+AT+-post.wesleyan-college.edu (Tiffany Moore) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Question Message-ID: <65501.8940793-+AT+-post.wesleyan-college.edu> Hello......everyone, I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. I have always been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating. Tiffany ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 10:06:34 PDT From: "ceinwyn the chameleon" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <19970928170634.26397.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Hi everybody.. Breaking lurk mode.... Tiffany wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and >who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. It's hard to pick a favourite- her books are so good! But some are definitely better than others. AOQ will always be one of my favs because it's the first one I ever read. Talia is my favourite character(there should DEFINITELY be another book on her) because I can identify so much with her. BTS is another fav. returning to luek mode.. ceinwyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 10:26:52 -0700 From: jeannie-+AT+-starmail.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970928102652.007b6e30-+AT+-mid-ga.com> >At 05:11 PM 9/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >*SNIPPED PARTS OF THE MESSAGE I DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER** well, thanks. I for one appreciate it and will try to do the same! >Here's another thing: You're SURE Learath was Ma'ar? I don't think >him being able to transfer his spirit from his descendants means that >he is responsible for EVERY dark mage in the Valdemar series. True, but in *this* case, he was Ma'ar. From Winds of Fury, Falconsbane thinks this thought...."After that, he might well think about all the blighted ambitions of Leareth and Ma'ar. All the plans he had laid that could actually be brought to fruition...." So if Falconsbane had been both Leareth and Ma'ar, they were the same as well. Wind to thy wings! ~~Jeannie, wanna-be-a-Knight in the 0rder of Amber & Marigold~~ ICQ #2285439 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:41:47 -0400 From: "Teresa D. Horne" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Krebain=Ma'ar?/'Lendel/Falconsbane/Nightflyers Message-ID: <342E96DA.F33C32C2-+AT+-ldl.net> Angie wrote: > : And if the mage (I think it was Krebain wasn't it?) was another version > of > : Maar, he can't have known because no other version of Maar did. > Krebain was a version of Ma'ar? *groanz* I thought that if Leareth was > Ma'ar, he couldn't be Krebain? (we went through this topic in May) I > _could_ be over-reacting here. > I didn't think that Krebain was a version of Ma'ar. I thought there was some textevd in Winds somewhere about Leareth... there were dark mages unconnected with Ma'ar, right? And I hadn't subbed yet when this was discussed previously, I don't think. If so, I don't remember it... > : And I just thought of another thing. Lendal used Van's energy to build a > : gate too but again only the eastern empire knows how to combine the > energy > : of different people in order to gate, so how did Lendal know? > I don't think 'Lendel knew. He tapped through Van because of the bond > between them. Because the bond existed, he could use it as a "channel", so > to speak. I don't think that 'Lendel would be able to do the tapping thing > with people other than his lifebonded. > Is it possible that he found out through that book that he had Van get from the Library or from Savil or something? Of course, I can't locate the books I need to back up this evidence... Windfire -- "But Vanyel, what makes a Herald is the _heart_. A caring heart, that cares for others before itself. And _you are_ a Herald." --Savil (Magic's Pawn) -- "Heralds might be pure of heart and soul, but that doesn't mean they're pure of body as well!" --Traisa Fiazn -- FireCat on IRC -- ICQ # 1613753 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:51:48 -0400 From: "Teresa D. Horne" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <342E9930.66E933C3-+AT+-ldl.net> Sorry about the two posts in a row, but I didn't receive this until after I sent off the last one... Tiffany Moore wrote: > Hello......everyone, > I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and > who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. I have always > been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating. Ah, an opporunity to ramble about my favorite subject... and my favorite character and books are kind of related... My favorite character is Vanyel... from the very beginning, I found a part of myself in the person who had problems with their family because he wasn't what they wanted him to be. I react a lot like Vanyel, though I didn't recognize this until a fellow Misty fan pointed it out to me when I couldn't figure out the reasons why I liked him so much. He's never been "whiny" to me. Misty made Vanyel real, and even now, I find myself crying over him :D Hence, it's pretty obvious what my favorite book is... "Magic's Price"... The characterization... the things that happened to my favorite character that made my heart ache... I _felt_ the book, and that's rare to find a book series (or author) that can touch me like that... Running off-- Windfire -- "But Vanyel, what makes a Herald is the _heart_. A caring heart, that cares for others before itself. And _you are_ a Herald." --Savil (Magic's Pawn) -- "Heralds might be pure of heart and soul, but that doesn't mean they're pure of body as well!" --Traisa Fiazn -- FireCat on IRC -- ICQ # 1613753 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:51:39 -0400 From: "Sarah Margaret " To: Subject: Re: LHM/SB/Fave Character Message-ID: <199709281751.NAA01588-+AT+-mail.eclipse.net> From: Dawn Patrick : > > A lot of people have discussed: > > Vanyel being self centred and whiney > > He was 16-17 in the first book. Teenagers are supposed to be self-centered > and whiney - It's part of the job description. > I think I should take offense at that.. We aren't _all_ whiney.. Just kiddin'... > >Yvonne wrote : > > > >At the end of MPawn, that blood > > mage gated into the CENTER of the town square. Only the Eastern Empire > > knows how to build gates without a terminous! (spelling?) Please explain > > someone!!! :) > > I think you're right there. All through the LHM series whenever a gate was > built a doorway or something had to be used at either end except there. Now, how I had read it was slightly different; the only thing a mage really _needed_ to build a gate was a place (s)he had seen before, and knew in memory well, but it was much better if the other end was shielded. It seemed in Magic's Pawn, both Savil and 'Lendel can Gate perfectly well without shielding, so long as they both had a picture of the place they wanted to Gate to, then in Magic's Promise, they suddenly needed a shielded Gate terminus -- ie, the church. > And if the mage (I think it was Krebain wasn't it?) was another version of > Maar, he can't have known because no other version of Maar did. Well, we don't know that no other version of Ma'ar did this -- most likely, Ma'ar did, himself. We didn't learn all that much about his powers, even in the Mage Wars. And, how could Krebain be Ma'ar if Leareth is also Ma'ar -- and we do know Leareth is Ma'ar, due to a line in Storm Warning from An'desha -- if Leareth was around before Elspeth the Peace Maker took the throne? I'm pretty sure even Ma'ar didn't know how to warp time to _that_ degree. Krebain was just an evilish plot-device mage, in my mind.. > > And I just thought of another thing. Lendal used Van's energy to build a > gate too but again only the eastern empire knows how to combine the energy > of different people in order to gate, so how did Lendal know? Savil says that the Herald Mages can't figure out how it was possible-- but they're guessing it was because they were lifebonded, and Van was a mage-potential. Plus, when you're insane, you aren't thinking linearly -- which leads to the most amazing inventions of the mind... Maybe 'Lendel figured it out But, it isn't the same thing as the Eastern Empire's Gates, IMHO -- I don't think they were lifebonded pairs doing that.. > > Another question. How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had > come accross them before as Krebain and Learath? > That's a good question. Even if he wasn't Krebain, Leareth knew _all_ about the Heralds... Oh, for a copy of winds -- Tiffany wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and >who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. Well, my favorite book trilogy is LHM, right off the bat. The characters are deep, interesting, and, at least to me, very real. The situations are used as a backdrop, and a very good one at that, it follows through well -- but not as a central focus. It's the _characters_ who you are looking at in the entire book. The books are entirely moving -- I was at the point, and past, of tears in many times in all three books... I love books that can make me unhappy..er.. whatever. My favorite character is... huh. It _should_ be Van, but it's not -- I'll have to say Talia is my favorite character. I identify with her, somehow. (Stop laughing this instant, ke'chara. ) In the very begining of AotQ, she's day dreaming -- something we haven't seen _any_ of the other characters truely do -- and something I do constantly. Even through all the hardships she's endured, I'd give practically anything to be her, to have the chance to help as she does... Well, we all do have that chance -- we just have to look much harder for it, hmm? No white spirit horses are coming up and choosing us, no matter how much we wish it! Sarah Margaret _______ windrider1013-+AT+-rocketmail.com catarina-+AT+-innocent.com windrider-+AT+-beloved.com cherenac-+AT+-mail.eclipse.net marigold-+AT+-thevortex.com http://www.eclipse.net/~cherenac/index.htm http://members.tripod.com/~slide_romantics/ ---- MiSTie, Misty Lackey Fan, Slider, X-Phile, Romantic, SL-Romantics, XF-Romantics, XPRA, LackeyX, MSSMB #2, XPA #02242, Baby Moonie of The_Ra. Cat Sister, PWNUSTIEETXF, FFA, IRCAA, ELIGHT, EP, XFCT, XFC, The Fringe, GenX ---- :Love now -- a good solid love is something infinitely rarer and more difficult to maintain, because you *don't* know everything your partner is feeling. Love takes work. Love means being able to apologize and mean it when you blunder. Love is worth fighting for!: - Stefen, Winds of Fury ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 11:52:44 -0700 From: dprono-+AT+-planet.eon.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Ma'ar, Falconsbane, Learath Message-ID: <342EA77C.CB9-+AT+-planet.eon.net> Heyla All! Dawn asked: >How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had > come accross them before as Krebain and Learath? Accually, he did remember heralds and such. On p.398 of WoF when Falconsbane is staring into his scrying crystal while he is holding Dawnfire captive: "There was something about "heralds," though what that would have to do with anything, she had no notion. There was nore about "Valdemar" and a "queen;" "Hardorn" and "Ancar." " Alright, I amit, he COULD have scryed all that info, but since it was all a fabrication why should he? He must have scryed Ancar's name, but the rest he already knew, so why waste Mage-Power on it? He would have been thrilled if he could fool Dawnfire without even creating illusions, and so all he had to do was mutter to himself. :) WTTW, Fare thee well, and Cheezecake sheep to all! (low fat ones to those who are on diets) Yvonne Shadowshape bondmate to Chiti (Spotted-Crested Eagle) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:32:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Ross To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question Message-ID: > the Whites meant. Here's another thing: You're SURE Learath was Ma'ar? I > don't think him being able to transfer his spirit from his descendants > means that he is responsible for EVERY dark mage in the Valdemar series. > Ma'ar was DEFINITELY laereth. He says so himself in the second book of Winds series. He names people he's been since Ma'ar, and he died by Vanyel's Final Strike. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 12:31:44 -0600 From: Susanna Warner To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <342EA290.4A8530BB-+AT+-cadvision.com> Tiffany Moore wrote: > Hello......everyone, > I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and > who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. I have always > been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating. > Tiffany Trying to pick one favorite book or character is one of the hardest things for me to do. Every book about Valedmar is a favorite of mine and in each trilogy I have one or more favorite characters. In The Mage Wars my favorite characters are Amberdrake and Skandranon. There is a something that Zhaneel says "He (Skandranon) loves you as if you were a nestmate," she insisted. "Perhaps he does not say so, but all the camp know that Amberdrake and Skandranon might as well have come from a single mother." The relationship between Amberdrake and Skandranon is complex and interesting in how they accept each others strengths and weaknesses. Vanyel and Savil are my favorite characters in The Last Herald Mage trilogy. The relationship between them and the other characters is fascinating and you know that they like each other, because of the jokes they make about one and other. Now in the Vows and Honor books, how can you not like Tarma and Kethry. They compliment each other and such a friendship is hard to find. The Heralds of Valedmar has so many good characters, but I really like Talia. Following her growth from when she is first chosen to her marriage to Dirk makes for a great story. Choosing a favorite character from The Mage Winds is difficult, I like Need, Elspeth, Darkwind and of course Firesong. Need is a person we should all have in our lives. Someone who will tells us the truth about ourselves no matter what. Karal and Natoli are my favorites in The Mage Storms trilogy. I really like the way Karal and his religion are shown in this trilogy. Also, Natoli shows us that not all the Blues are "bad". The first book of Mercedes Lackey that I read was By The Sword and this story about Kerowyn and what happened to her is really enthralling. Luckily I had the time to read it, because I couldn't put it down once I started it. I can't wait to read Owlflight. My order is in for it at my favorite book store. Up here in Canada books don't show up in our stores at the same time they do in the States. I should be getting Owlflight within the next couple of weeks. Zanna Lady with Books ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:37:29 +0200 From: Christie Maas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: falconsbane Message-ID: <342EB1F9.5BFA-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl> Dawn Patrick wrote: > And if the mage (I think it was Krebain wasn't it?) was another version of > Maar, he can't have known because no other version of Maar did. > sorry, he wasn't. there already was an incarnation af maar alive at the time (leareth). this brings me to an interresting question though: what would have happened if two (or more) decendents of maar's decided at the same time to light a mage-fire???? > Another question. How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had > come accross them before as Krebain and Learath? > > I'm getting confused now. > don't be: falconsbane was insane. I think that the more incarnations maar went through, the more he forgot, or the more insane he went. i believe that this explanation is also mentioned in either the winds-trilogy, or in the storm-trilogy, but i'm not sure. seems logical though;^) BTW: to bring nack a subject of longlong ago: I would like to be a character in one of tanith lee's books: Simmu. Misty's characters always end up either disgustingly happy, or dead. the former is boring, the latter ..... never mind. christie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:51:17 +0200 From: Christie Maas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: LHM/Bardic/SB/Question Message-ID: <342EB535.683F-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl> Corinne Kays wrote: Hello, > When Ma'ar was around there wasn't even a Valdemar yet, so he never met > them that way. And when Kerbain met Vanyel I don't think he knew what > the Whites meant. Here's another thing: You're SURE Learath was Ma'ar? Yes i am sure: says so in storm warning (page 248: An'desha did start looking at some of the older memories.He was already past the life of a strange creature that had called himself simply "Leareth"(which meant "Darkness" in the hawkbrother tongue),..... I > don't think him being able to transfer his spirit from his descendants > means that he is responsible for EVERY dark mage in the Valdemar series. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:56:51 +0200 From: Christie Maas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <342EB683.755-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl> Tiffany Moore wrote: > > Hello......everyone, > I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and > who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. I have always > been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating. > Tiffany just to be very much like a lot of other people: i like magic's pawn the best, but i really do not know exactly why. maybe because van is such a vulnerable person, who does make mistakes, and the events are so tragic. maybe just because it was the first book os Misty I ever read.. i dunno. i don't have a special person i like best... maybe stef... christie. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 12:45:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Heather Shannon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 17:59:01 +0100 (BST) Tiffany Moore wrote: > Hello......everyone, > I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and > who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. I have always > been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating. > Tiffany Hey! The first Lackey book I actually read (I didn't know it was by her) was the Diana Tregard book _Children of the Night_. I really liked it, I still read it every-now-and-then, but part of it is because I have a thing for good vampire (as in nice guy) stories. I also like the Vanyel series. I first started reading them when I was in my mid-teens. You know, going back to what somebody said about it being a teens job to be whiny and annoying, I never really found him annoying at all. The only bad thing about the books is that the first and last make me cry, and I hate crying over books. I also like _Eagle and the Nightinggale_ (sorry about spelling), the third bardic magic book. Well, that's all for now. Lots of Luck, Rehtaeh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:33:36 PDT From: "Corinne Kays" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <19970928203336.11144.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> >Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:30:24 +0100 (BST) >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >From: "Teresa D. Horne" >To: makochanda-+AT+-hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Question > >Sorry about the two posts in a row, but I didn't receive this until after I sent off the >last one... > >Tiffany Moore wrote: > >> Hello......everyone, >> I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and >> who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice. I have always >> been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating. > >Ah, an opporunity to ramble about my favorite subject... and my favorite character and >books are kind of related... > >My favorite character is Vanyel... from the very beginning, I found a part of myself in >the person who had problems with their family because he wasn't what they wanted him to >be. I react a lot like Vanyel, though I didn't recognize this until a fellow Misty fan >pointed it out to me when I couldn't figure out the reasons why I liked him so much. He's >never been "whiny" to me. Misty made Vanyel real, and even now, I find myself crying over >him :D > >Hence, it's pretty obvious what my favorite book is... "Magic's Price"... The >characterization... the things that happened to my favorite character that made my heart >ache... I _felt_ the book, and that's rare to find a book series (or author) that can >touch me like that... > >Running off-- >Windfire > >-- >"But Vanyel, what makes a Herald is the _heart_. >A caring heart, that cares for others before itself. >And _you are_ a Herald." > --Savil (Magic's Pawn) >-- >"Heralds might be pure of heart and soul, but that >doesn't mean they're pure of body as well!" > --Traisa Fiazn >-- >FireCat on IRC -- ICQ # 1613753 > > >Heylas all! Hehe, my fav character would HAVE to Vanyel as well, I LOVED his series, and thus is the reason I want more of them. I cried in Pawn and Promise.. but the second book seemed unrealated to me..sooooo anyway, Darkwind follows at a close second with An'desha at his heels. Heh, silver hair kicks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1346 **********************************