MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1349

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Thanx 4 Grove Born
	by Amber <stasia-+AT+-gte.net>
  2) Ma'ar/favs and firsts/Gala-Yfandes
	by dprono-+AT+-planet.eon.net
  3) Re: Shin'a'in steeds
	by Amber <stasia-+AT+-gte.net>
  4) Re: Shin'a'in steeds
	by Tiffany_Moore-+AT+-post.wesleyan-college.edu (Tiffany Moore)
  5) RE: Shin'a'in steeds
	by Crystal Hewitt <mysttree-+AT+-phantomreality.com>
  6) RE: Question
	by "Roesle, Kathy" <Kathleen.Roesle-Blush-+AT+-mci.com>
  7) Re: Grove Born Companions
	by Catherine A Murdoch <ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
  8) Re: Shin'a'in steeds
	by Catherine A Murdoch <ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
  9) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 1346
	by Brujah <brujah-+AT+-idirect.com>
 10) Favourite characters
	by Catherine A Murdoch <ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
 11) Re: Elspeth's abdication & Favs
	by RTeclectic-+AT+-aol.com
 12) Re: just wondering
	by Hyllarr-+AT+-aol.com
 13) Problems...
	by Hyllarr-+AT+-aol.com
 14) HaHaVery Funny
	by "Traci Harriman" <harrimant-+AT+-geocities.com>
 15) Re: Elspeth's abdication & Favs
	by jeannie-+AT+-starmail.com
 16) Gala-Yfandes/
	by MorningStar <morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com>
 17) Re:  Gala-Yfandes/
	by CAZickel-+AT+-aol.com
 18) ADMIN: AOL and Juno mail problems
	by Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
 19) Book Suggestion Question/Owlflight Spoiler
	by Tracy_L_Danberry-+AT+-rohmhaas.com (Tracy L Danberry)
 20) Re: Elspeth's abdication
	by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner)
 21) Re: Song???/fave filk/gala=y'fandes/lammas night
	by "Angie" <heraldtg-+AT+-mbox3.singnet.com.sg>
 22) RE: Owlflight Spoiler
	by Crystal Hewitt <mysttree-+AT+-phantomreality.com>
 23) Games anyone?
	by larsen <larsen-+AT+-voyager.net>
 24) Re: Elspeth's abdication
	by SisterBlueRose <chapmanl-+AT+-lightlink.com>
 25) Braid: Your opinion
	by Ashali9928-+AT+-aol.com
 26) Re: Braid: Your opinion
	by Remmington Crothian <remming-+AT+-ix.netcom.com>

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:13:34 -0400
From: Amber <stasia-+AT+-gte.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Thanx 4 Grove Born
Message-ID: <3430280E.D70-+AT+-gte.net>

Corinne Kays wrote:
>     But to continue the recarnation part, I think its possible that >Gala
> once being  a Herald, thus all of Van's and 'Lendel's imagining seeing >a
> young woman were she stood. (Can anyone think of someone she might >be?)

Not off the top of my head, but then again, we haven't seen/heard of too
many before Van's time that she could have been.  Whereas in AotQ and
beyond, at least we had the many Heralds mentioned from Van's time to
draw on... But, I, too would be very curious to find out the
circumstances of Gala's mortal life.  %^}

Wind to thy Wings,
Amber

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Date: 	Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:17:06 -0700
From: dprono-+AT+-planet.eon.net
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Ma'ar/favs and firsts/Gala-Yfandes
Message-ID: <343036F2.5B5C-+AT+-planet.eon.net>

Heyla All!
	Alright, Ma'ar is most DEFINATLY Leareth. It says so many times 
in the Winds series, but as I dont have my books here, and I cant give 
you exact text. 
	The first Misty book I read was AOQ, and I picked it up because 
there was a "horse" on the cover. I liked it so much that I used to sneak 
it into class to read it. I got in such trouble from my teachers!!! 
Anyone else get in trouble for their "obsession" with the glorious works 
of Mercedes Lackey? ;)
	As for my favorite characters, I think I like Talia the best 
because she's so quiet but she's still really strong. And because she's 
so nice. I also like Kero 'cause she's so STRONG. I like strong women. I 
like Firesong too, and of course Van. (that goes without saying!) ;)
	Gala cant be Yfandes because a) there's so many memories of 
'Fandes, b) Gala couldnt have got through the trauma of loosing her 
chosen THAT quickly, and c)she just couldnt be. (I like reason c) the 
best!!!) :)
		WTTW, Fare thee Well, and Cheezy sheep to all!!!

	Yvonne Shadowshape bondmate to Chiti (Spotted-Crested Eagle)

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:21:05 -0400
From: Amber <stasia-+AT+-gte.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Shin'a'in steeds
Message-ID: <343029D1.351A-+AT+-gte.net>

Corinne Kays wrote:
> 
> Okay dokey, I never read the Oath books, but this is about BtS..
> Wasn't the steed Tarma gave Kero a warsteed or was it a very well
> trained warhorse named Hellsbane?

Hellsbane was a battlestead, 4th or 5th of that name, if I'm not
mistaken.  But, due to Kethry and Tarma's sisterhood, and the fact that
Kero was Kethry's granddaughter, that made her clan and able to have
possession of a battlestead.  The good thing about battlesteads was
their training... no one but their trainer/partner/owner (or whatever
would be the best term for that) was allowed to touch them without said
person giving the proper command to the stead.  That is why it was safe
for her to have 'Bane out of the Plains, and why she was allowed to have
him in the first place.  

Wind to thy Wings,
Amber

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:26:59 -0400
From: Tiffany_Moore-+AT+-post.wesleyan-college.edu (Tiffany Moore)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Shin'a'in steeds
Message-ID: <3308453854.15384477-+AT+-post.wesleyan-college.edu>

It was a warsteed, but Kethry was part of the clan so she was entitled to have
one.
										Tiffany




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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:02:23 -0400
From: Crystal Hewitt <mysttree-+AT+-phantomreality.com>
To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Shin'a'in steeds
Message-ID: <01BCCD0A.3CA2CAC0-+AT+-crystalh.phantomreality.com>

Heyla listsibs,
	Remember, Kero is adopted by the Shin'a'in clan of the hawk, and so she 
(like Tarma & Kethry) has the "right" to a warsteed, and thus can take it 
"off" the plains.  And yes she always named her warsteed Hellsbane for the 
sake of convenience, I think she had 2 or 3 before she was finally chosen.
WTTW,
Mysttree
Okay dokey, I never read the Oath books, but this is about BtS..
Wasn't the steed Tarma gave Kero a warsteed or was it a very well
trained warhorse named Hellsbane?

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:22:40 -0600
From: "Roesle, Kathy" <Kathleen.Roesle-Blush-+AT+-mci.com>
To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Question
Message-ID: <F62CCC41EB58D011BDA50000F802ACC20109BB4F-+AT+-omzexch003>

	I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is
the favorite and who their favorite character is and the reason for
their choice.  I have always been curious to know what other people
think make her books so fascinating.

Thought I would chime in with my nickel's worth!  I started out with the
Last Herald Mage trilogy - picked it up at the grocery store as I though
the covers were intriguing.  Although I have enjoyed all of the Valdemar
books (some more than others), I have to say my favorite characters are
Vanyel and Savil.

Why?  They seem so human - fallible, but willing to try, learning from
mistakes (and sometimes not).  Also, in the LHM books, I really like the
character development of the secondary characters.  Again, for their
very real personalities/prejudices/insights.

It seems that it's all too rare for books to contain characters who
could (maybe) be someone we know - all too often the only characters in
a book are either hero's or villains.  Misty's books aren't like that -
obviously there are hero's and villains - but nothing is black and
white.  There is good and not so good qualities to most of her
characters.  Also, the characters change and grow.

Well, 'nuff said.  Back to lurcking...

Kathy


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:35:05 +1000 (EST)
From: Catherine A Murdoch <ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Grove Born Companions
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9709300930.A14006-0100000-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>


In my opinion, it would be impossible for Yfandes to be Gala reborn.  
While Yfandes may or may not be a Grove Born Companion, I very much doubt 
she is Gala reincarnated.  Remember, in the second book of the Vanyel 
trilogy, Van mentions that Yfandes had had two foals before she Chose him.  Also, in the first 
book of the Vanyel trilogy, Savil mentions that Yfandes hasn't Chosen in 
ten years, which means she has been around and known to the Heralds for 
at least that long and therefore could not possibly be Gala reborn.

P.S. Please forgive me referring to them as the second book and the first 
book, respectively; I don't have my books here at the moment and the 
titles have momentarily slipped my mind.

Cat Murdoch 


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Catherine Murdoch                  | Internet: ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au
Auchmuty Library                   | Ph  (intl+61+49) 217147
University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833

"When I play with my cat, who knows but that she regards me as a plaything 
even more than I do her?"
Michel de Montaigne, French essayist

  


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:38:30 +1000 (EST)
From: Catherine A Murdoch <ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Shin'a'in steeds
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9709300907.B14006-0100000-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>


Dear Corrinne,

Yes, you are correct in saying that Tarma gave Kerowyn a Shin'a'in 
warsteed.  However, that was a mare not a stallion.

Cat Murdoch

--                                                                       --
Catherine Murdoch                  | Internet: ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au
Auchmuty Library                   | Ph  (intl+61+49) 217147
University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833

"When I play with my cat, who knows but that she regards me as a plaything 
even more than I do her?"
Michel de Montaigne, French essayist

  


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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 20:13:11 -0400
From: Brujah <brujah-+AT+-idirect.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 1346
Message-ID: <199709300013.UAA04556-+AT+-nexus.idirect.com>

>> I wonder if much of how Kris converses
>> with Tantras is due to Tantras' strengths in the mind gift as opposed to
>> Kris'.  His primary gift is Far Sight, secondary is the mind speaking. 
>> Could it be that Tantras was "boosting" him somewhat?  

It said in one of the books that Kris had more then enough of that gift.  AF
had it said in.  While in the storm no other heralds were around so how
could anyone have known they were in danger.  They knew of the resupply
station but they didn't know if that herald was a mindspeaker either.
>I think you're right there.  All through the LHM series whenever a gate was
>built a doorway or something had to be used at either end except there. 
>And if the mage (I think it was Krebain wasn't it?) was another version of
>Maar, he can't have known because no other version of Maar did.  

Maar could have known and just forgotten.  Remember he was years sometimes
finding a body and not all of them may have had that much power to do the
gates.  I believe it said adepts could only.  Well most adepts don't even
know they exist outside of certain areas.
>
>And I just thought of another thing.  Lendal used Van's energy to build a
>gate too but again only the eastern empire knows how to combine the energy
>of different people in order to gate, so how did Lendal know?  

Lendel was a very promising student of magic and didn't know what he was
doing at first.  He muddled it out himself.  It was the lifebond that made
it possible for them to accomplish it.  

>
>Another question.  How come Falconsbane didn't recognise heralds if he had
>come accross them before as Krebain and Learath?
>
He may have forgot about them because it was over 700 years before and we
don't really know if he remembers all the items clearly or just in
fragments.  I believe he forgot though.

>Hello......everyone,
>	I was wondering if anyone would like to explain which book is the favorite and
>who their favorite character is and the reason for their choice.  I have always
>been curious to know what other people think make her books so fascinating.
>					 	Tiffany
>
Okay I love most of her novels.  To choose a favorite character would be
awfully hard.  It depends on if you are talking just Valdemar or any.  I
love the character Lashana from the ElvenBane and Blood books.  I think she
is my favorite non valdemar character just because the story was unique to
me and she was really an interesting character in how she reacted.

My favorite Valdemar Character would be Talia just because her gift and the
way things fell together with her after such a horrible beginning.  Plus I
find that the earlier the writing is I like it better.  I believe The ARrows
novels where her first novels.  I also like Tarma a lot just because she is
very able and not needing much help even though she uses it.





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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:02:08 +1000 (EST)
From: Catherine A Murdoch <ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Favourite characters
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9709301105.A16429-0100000-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au>


I must admit my favourite characters tend to be among the non-humans 
(with the exception of Vanyel).  Warrl and Treyvan are my preferences.  
Particularly Treyvan.  His sense of humour appeals to me.  Darkwind at 
one stage says he (Treyvan) is a crazy bird who would laugh at his own 
funeral.  I can imagine Treyvan doing just that.

 Cat Murdoch 

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Auchmuty Library                   | Ph  (intl+61+49) 217147
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"When I play with my cat, who knows but that she regards me as a plaything 
even more than I do her?"
Michel de Montaigne, French essayist

  


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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:12:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: RTeclectic-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Elspeth's abdication & Favs
Message-ID: <970929231050_-94387666-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-09-29 10:25:34 EDT, you write:
Nina said:
  Or does the Valdemarian monarchy continue on through the
>  eldest Chosen offspring of the royal family?  
>  
Probably the oldest chosen because they have to have someone thats chosen and
if it's the oldest you get the most time to train them in- unless the oldest
would be better somewhere else, then the companions would probably arange to
get the most suitable choesen first and into training before picking the
others.
RT

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:30:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hyllarr-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: just wondering
Message-ID: <970929220157_1923939799-+AT+-emout02.mail.aol.com>

My cat, Sox gets very upset when he can't come with us (the cat actually like
car rides!!!). He will sit at the door and meow, unless we give him a treat,
shut him in the bedroom or take him with us!!
 Sorry for the short post!!


     Amy

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:53:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hyllarr-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Problems...
Message-ID: <970929234948_1031186999-+AT+-emout18.mail.aol.com>

Heyla

 Sorry for bringing this up, but I seem to be getting alot of double
messages. Sometimes I'll even get the same message 3 or 4 times!! I'm getting
a little tired of have to push the next button several times to see new text!
Anyone know why this is happening? Sorry for complaining!


    Amy

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:50:09 -0500
From: "Traci Harriman" <harrimant-+AT+-geocities.com>
To: "Mercedes Lackey List" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: HaHaVery Funny
Message-ID: <199709300420.VAA25214-+AT+-geocities.com>

Heyla all!!!!
I think this thingie bout the sheep is funny. I think I finally caught on.
Zhai'helluva
--------------
Traci Harriman
harrimant-+AT+-geocities.com

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:55:46 -0700
From: jeannie-+AT+-starmail.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Elspeth's abdication & Favs
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970929215546.007c8a90-+AT+-mid-ga.com>

> It seems to me that most kingdoms on Velgarth favor the practice of
primogeniture, where the first born son will become the next monarch.
>Selenay became queen because there was no male heir.  Now, Elspeth
abdicated in favor of her younger brother, but did she really have to?
>Even though she is older, he is the first and only male heir.  So,
wouldn't he automatically become the heir apparent once
>he is Chosen?  Or does the Valdemarian monarchy continue on through the
eldest Chosen offspring of the royal family?  


You raise an interesting point.  I think I need to argue it -- sorry if
offend!  Since Valdemar requires the heir be chosen, I don't think they can
be that picky about male/female.  Also, Elspeth did not exactly abdicate in
favor of her younger brother...  "I, Elspeth, daughter of Queen Selenay and
Heir to the throne of Valdemar, hereby renounce my claim to the throne of
Valdemar, in favor of my siblings, the Princess Lyra and Prince Kris."

So I would think there was no problem with the being son/daughter....my
impression has always been that whoever was most suited AND chosen would be
the next monarch.  Possibly just coincidental, or maybe deliberate, this is
the first time I can recall there being even the possibility of more than
one choice for the throne....remember in LHM books Randale was Heir long
before his time because his father died unexpectedly?  There was no mention
of other siblings at all....maybe the rulers just often didn't have large
numbers of offspring?  
Wind to thy wings!

~~Jeannie, wanna-be-a-Knight in the 0rder of Amber & Marigold~~
     ICQ #2285439

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:43:30 -0600
From: MorningStar <morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Gala-Yfandes/
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970929234330.006a61c8-+AT+-mail.geocities.com>

Ele said:(about Yfandes being Gala)
>Well, while possible, I think it highly unlikely, specially since Gala had
>just "died" under very stressing circumstances and I don't think even a
>Companion's spirit would have been able to return so soon without needing
>first some time to get over the trauma, so to speak. This is of course just
>idle speculation on my part. =)

(still thinking it's very unlikely...) Couldn't Gala have had some time to
get over it?  After all, when Van almost died he was able to stay with the
Shadow Lover for a time before he went back...  (just playing devil's
advocate, here. :) )

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

erf...and nothing more to say...

MorningStar


MorningStar, AKA DawnRain, NightFire, and many others.
E-mail:  MorningStar-+AT+-poetic.com, dawnrain00-+AT+-aol.com,
bv165-+AT+-freenet.uchsc.edu, and others.
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Mail checked...sometimes!

ICQ UIN: 1425359

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 02:26:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: CAZickel-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:  Gala-Yfandes/
Message-ID: <970930022611_2032017243-+AT+-emout08.mail.aol.com>

Well, while possible, I think it highly unlikely, specially since Gala had
>just "died" under very stressing circumstances and I don't think even a
>Companion's spirit would have been able to return so soon without needing
>first some time to get over the trauma, so to speak. This is of course just
>idle speculation on my part. =)

>(still thinking it's very unlikely...) Couldn't Gala have had some time to
>get over it?  After all, when Van almost died he was able to stay with the
>Shadow Lover for a time before he went back...  (just playing devil's
>advocate, here. :) )

Yfandes was ten when Gala died...wasn't she?

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:22:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
To: mercedes-lackey, lois-bujold
Subject: ADMIN: AOL and Juno mail problems
Message-ID: <199709301122.MAA02653-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>

Hi folks,

Both AOL and Juno seem to be having mail problems in the last day or so. 


AOL have had at least one spate of bouncing mail with a message

550 <name>-+AT+-aol.com is temporarily unavailable while we upgrade our system

which is a spectacularly stupid thing to do (if you can't currently accept
mail, refuse connections, you fools)


Juno seem to be having problems with their user database and were bouncing mail
'User unknown' for, well, just about everyone.


Either of these problems can cause you to be unsubscribed from the list. I
believe I have caught and resubscribed everyone who was dropped this morning,
but if it all suddenly goes quiet, you may want to check your subscription
status if you're subscribed via AOL or Juno.

Cheers

Mel
Listmistress



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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:44:20 -0400
From: Tracy_L_Danberry-+AT+-rohmhaas.com (Tracy L Danberry)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Book Suggestion Question/Owlflight Spoiler
Message-ID: <00130EE2.1306-+AT+-rohmhaas.com>

Bright the day, listsibs!  I had a thought (a good one, I think) about what 
Misty could write about that would keep us satisfied and her in $$$ forever.  
Did anyone ever read Piers' Incarnations of Immortality?  For those that say 
no, it's kind of the same story told in seven (?) different viewpoints.  
Wouldn't it be great to have even short stories of Talia's perspective on the 
Winds and Storm books; Seleny's perspective on Arrows, Winds & Storm; 
Orthallen's evil plottings during and pre-dating Arrows???  I know that Misty 
covers some of their thoughts and feelings as part of the regular novels, but 
it wouldn't be hard, and it would CERTAINLY be interesting, to read the other 
perspectives.  Any other opinions? 
        Trae, mindmate to Sax and Jaxom
O
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Well, as a Misty story, I liked it.  All the characters were nice, the ending 
was happy.  As a major work, no way.  There was no 'spice'.  Even though it 
makes me sick to think of what Talia went through, and I cried when Kris died 
and left the maiden's hope for Talia & Dirk, those provoking /sad 
/tension-packed events made Arrows so good!  Yeah, Justyn died - but (callous 
thought), he was kind of old, and his character wasn't very developed.  The 
townspeople were enslaved, then freed, and still were a**es.  Darien was 
unhappy, ran away, found friends, rescued town, lived happily ever after...  
yadada yadada yadada.  I guess if I had to rate it, "FLUFFY, YET ENJOYABLE - 
GOOD FOR YOUNGER READERS" would be it.

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:32:19 -0500
From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Elspeth's abdication
Message-ID: <199709301334.IAA21119-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu>


>You raise an interesting point.  I think I need to argue it -- sorry if
>offend!  Since Valdemar requires the heir be chosen, I don't think they can
>be that picky about male/female.  Also, Elspeth did not exactly abdicate in
>favor of her younger brother...  "

True, but at one point in WoFate, Elspeth does mention that Kris would bet
he next monarch and Lyra would be the new monarch's own.  Now, up until her
abdication, Elspeth and the Companions were the only ones who knew for
certain that the twins would be Chosen.  I guess that my question really is
that if she didn't abdicate and the twin were Chosen, would she have to
relinquish her position as heir apparent?

Nina Ehgartner
Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid
J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management
email:  nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
Phone: (847) 491-3308
Fax: (847) 491-4960


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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:57:29 +0800
From: "Angie" <heraldtg-+AT+-mbox3.singnet.com.sg>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Song???/fave filk/gala=y'fandes/lammas night
Message-ID: <199709301400.WAA05985-+AT+-copper.singnet.com.sg>

: >Just wondering, does any1 've the tunes to the songs behind MPrice and
AF?
: >E,g, Kerowyn's Ride, My Lady's Eyes etc........ I would really like to
: listen to them!
: > mail me!!!!!
: 
: >Thanx.
: > Stefen Hoo -+AT+- Moonwind k'Sheyna...........
: >Lackey enthusiast, Singapore...........
Heyla!
Well, stef, u can always order the cassettes or CD at firebirds arts and
music (http://www.firebirdarts.com) _or_... you live in singapore right?
Where do you live? If it's near my place maybe I can pass to them to you.
If you wanna buy it, I think the price for cassette is US$10 not including
tax or transport fee...

BTW, what're you guys fave song? Mine's 'Hawkbrother' or something like
that...my tape disappeared. It's with m'friend. You know, the one with "Oh
memories are unfaithful things,/ they bind the strongest will."? 

On the gala/y'fandes thing,
I don't think y'fandes would nudge the heralds' minds like what Gwena did
to the heralds. 'sides she's too old!

hmm, what do u guys think of Lammas Night? How do you think it should end?
the song i mean. 

hmm, i don't think i'll be touching the computer until after the
"o"-levels. my prelim results are back, and they suck. like if i pass the
prelim, i'll go vegetarian for half a day. hear that gods? thank you.
so, bye bye 4n!

Wind to Thy Wings
Angie Mindmate to Raul (who is currently trying to relocate his family!)
Elven Archer-Mage of Fairgrove >>~~~~~>
Lady of OOPS
NoiSe AppReNtice!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:41:30 -0400
From: Crystal Hewitt <mysttree-+AT+-phantomreality.com>
To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Owlflight Spoiler
Message-ID: <01BCCD9E.359DEB80-+AT+-crystalh.phantomreality.com>

Greetings Listsibs,
Tracy scribed in the sands of time:
Wouldn't it be great to have even short stories of Talia's perspective on 
the
Winds and Storm books; Seleny's perspective on Arrows, Winds & Storm;
Orthallen's evil plottings during and pre-dating Arrows???  I know that 
Misty
covers some of their thoughts and feelings as part of the regular novels, 
but
it wouldn't be hard, and it would CERTAINLY be interesting, to read the 
other
perspectives.

I Definitely agree, it could be very interesting if done right!  I 
especially like the idea of having Talia's viewpoint, especially with all 
the foreigners and trying to calm everyone during the panic caused by the 
Mage Storms.  If Misty could once again capture the magic like she did in 
AOTQ or LHM.
O
W
L
F
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G
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Well, as a Misty story, I liked it.  All the characters were nice, the 
ending
was happy.  As a major work, no way.  There was no 'spice'. Yeah, Justyn 
died - but (callous
thought), he was kind of old, and his character wasn't very developed. I 
guess if I had to rate it, "FLUFFY, YET ENJOYABLE -
GOOD FOR YOUNGER READERS" would be it.

I agree completely, this is not one of Misty's books that I'll read over 
and over.  I was so excited to finally get it, and read it within 24 hours, 
but even though I was happy to get a new Misty "fix" I was slightly 
disappointed.  This is definitely not one of her better works.  Maybe she 
needs to take a break, instead of trying to crank out the material so fast 
that her work suffers.
JMHO,
WTTW,



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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:45:53 -0700
From: larsen <larsen-+AT+-voyager.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Games anyone?
Message-ID: <34317311.3114-+AT+-voyager.net>

Does anyone wanna stage a battle, like the mage wars or something?

Brownhawk Kal'enedral with warsteed FoxFire

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 15:18:42 -0400
From: SisterBlueRose <chapmanl-+AT+-lightlink.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Elspeth's abdication
Message-ID: <34315092.16C1-+AT+-lightlink.com>

Elspeth abdicated because her duties as heir were in direct oppostion
to her duties as Herald Mage. If something happened to her sister and
brother she would still be in line for the throne, if they didn't have
anyone better.  
	Lucinda (COPP) CHAPMAN
Nina Ehgartner wrote:
> 
> >You raise an interesting point.  I think I need to argue it -- sorry if
> >offend!  Since Valdemar requires the heir be chosen, I don't think they can
> >be that picky about male/female.  Also, Elspeth did not exactly abdicate in
> >favor of her younger brother...  "
> 
> True, but at one point in WoFate, Elspeth does mention that Kris would bet
> he next monarch and Lyra would be the new monarch's own.  Now, up until her
> abdication, Elspeth and the Companions were the only ones who knew for
> certain that the twins would be Chosen.  I guess that my question really is
> that if she didn't abdicate and the twin were Chosen, would she have to
> relinquish her position as heir apparent?
> 
> Nina Ehgartner
> Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid
> J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management
> email:  nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
> Phone: (847) 491-3308
> Fax: (847) 491-4960

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:54:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ashali9928-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Braid: Your opinion
Message-ID: <970930164825_978983585-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com>

Let's play pretend:

If you were a character in one of Misty's books, what peeves or faults would
you have?  Would you be impolite, lazy, randy, prejudiced, whiny or what?

Savarana Sappharine

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:11:03 -0700
From: Remmington Crothian <remming-+AT+-ix.netcom.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid: Your opinion
Message-ID: <34318707.300C-+AT+-ix.netcom.com>

Ashali9928-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> 
> Let's play pretend:
> 
> If you were a character in one of Misty's books, what peeves or faults would
> you have?  Would you be impolite, lazy, randy, prejudiced, whiny or what?

Can't resist this one.  I'd be pessimistic and blunt.  I'd be frank about 
all the stupid things that happen, like the huge lack of comminacation 
between everybody.  All the countries so far presented have been 
isolationist xenophobs.  It's wierd.  

-- 
On the way back they sang a number of tuneful and reflective songs on the
subjects of peace, justice, morality, culture, sport, family life and the
obliteration of all other life forms.
................................
Attention, now we will sing the history of the pighead who stopped our 
beloved 
Red Baron!!
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ICQ 1438388
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Sweet, check this out.  I'm such a Beefcake I can't get through the door!
................................
Remmington Crothian, 42nd Twit of the Palladium Mailing List

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