MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1381 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by "K.S." 2) Re: Joan of Arc - History no misty by "Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin" 3) Re: Joan of Arc - History no misty by Chriss Buchanan 4) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by "Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin" 5) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by "QuickStar" 6) Re: Misty Books/Joan of Arc - History no Misty by Sorana Shadowcat 7) Reading by SisterBlueRose 8) Re:You think its just american unis?! by Elizabeth Hoffman 9) What do you think of Karal? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* by "ABSOLUTE POWER, CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY" 10) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by Susanna Warner 11) Re: What do you think of Karal? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* by Varisa Huang 12) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by Varisa Huang 13) Re: Joan of Arc - History no misty by Kenneth Allen Hyde 14) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by Varisa Huang 15) Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! by mdnewton-+AT+-unccvx.uncc.edu 16) Re: What do you think of Karal? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* by Chriss Buchanan 17) more history & an Obmisty by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) 18) RE: more history & an Obmisty by Crystal Hewitt 19) Welcome Jhiend by SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com 20) Re: Hello out there! And I'm back by dprono-+AT+-planet.eon.net 21) What Happened? by Eos419 22) Re: more history & an Obmisty by Catherine A Murdoch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:08:00 -0800 (PST) From: "K.S." To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: he he he.... guilty as charged. just ask my profs, or look at my grades at the end of the quarter. My roommate is astonished at the rate i pack books away. in a good/bad way, reading fast is kind of like cramming, you get through the story fast, but i never remember it very well. all the more reason to re-read it! i am lucky enough to have a friend who has a bunch of Lackey, McCaffrey, and McKinley books, so when i need a fix i just go visit her. good books are addictive, and just as detrimental to the savings account as any drug! ------------------------ "Ff-ff-f-flames. On the side of my face....." (Mrs. White, Clue) On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Heather Shannon wrote: > > Is anybody out there? I checked my mail and I've received a grand total > of 4!!! messages. Is everybody sick or asleep? Anyway, you wouldn't > believe the people at my college. There all like hethens or something, > most of them have never even heard of Mercedes Lackey much less read > anything by her, or Anne McCaffery for that matter. It boggles them how I > can sit down and disregard all else for the equivalent of a day while I > start and finish _By the Sword_. It seems like some people have never > read a good book in their life. They don't seem to know what it is like > to get so wrapped up in a story that you don't want to do anything else > except see what happens next. Am I alone in this? Oh, well. > Lots of Luck, > Rehtaeh > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > Darian/Tuxedo Mask on the Sailor Scouts: "These girls are going to kill > me!" > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:20:01 PST From: "Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Joan of Arc - History no misty Message-ID: <19971031042001.13273.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> > Did you know that at one time in the 1400's there were TWO popes? Actually, yes I did. One in Rome and one in Avignon, France, right? Gwyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:21:01 -0600 From: Chriss Buchanan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Joan of Arc - History no misty Message-ID: <34595CAC.174F-+AT+-nwol.net> Mark, Once again, a very well written post! Thanks for the kind words about how teachers don't have enough time to teach what they would like to teach; we are also told by the government (mostly state and federal) what we are allowed to teach and how we should teach it. This makes for a very biased view of history. My father and mom tried to combat this "fault" in education with teaching us history at home. My dad is especially knowledgeable about WWII and Egypt at the time of the Pharoahs, while my "favorites" were Egypt at the time of Cleopatra and China's Forbidden City. I think that parents should take some responsibility for filling in the gaps in their childrens' education--especially now with the knowledge base increasing so fast. Anyway, thanks for the excellent post! I will be lurking for several days, as I just bought a house and we'll be moving for the next couple of days. Take care! Linda Mark Severson wrote: > > Hello again folks, > > This whole halabalo about Joan of Arc brings up something that has been a > pet peeve of mine for quite some time. That being the fact that the history > taught in school for the most part is a farce. This is NOT the teachers > fault! It falls back upon the fact that history is basically a "stepchild" > of education. For the most part teachers are stuck with a very limited > period of time. Think about it. If you are lucky you get 45 minutes a day > to learn about and discuss what has happened over thousands of years! > To even start to teach history properly IMHO the way to start is to teach > only a set period per year rather then trying to stuff centuries, let along > millennium into a single week (or day!) Back in 1971 a friend of mine from > my old home town contacted me. He had the luck of signing up for a history > class which was going to spend the entire school year studying W.W.II and > the events which lead up to it. The reason he contacted me was due to the > fact that I had a better collection of books (150+) on that time period then > was available at the school and this teacher asked him to contact me to see > if they could borrow them! > History, and the details of history are extremely important to all of us. > The old saying that "those who do not know their history are bound to repeat > it" (rough phrasing sorry) is quite true. Joan of Arc's time is a > fascinating time period. History, told properly will keep me spellbound for > hours. Did you know that at one time in the 1400's there were TWO popes? > Pick up a copy of "A Distant Mirror by Barbara W Tuckman (I might have > misspelled the name of the author). She covers the events of one nobles > life. Its a great book. > If you depend on what you are taught in school for your knowledge of > history you are depriving yourself of a vaste store of knowledge, you will > find things that will cause you to run the entire guantlet of emotions. So > I say to you explore - you will be surprised at what you find. > To those of you offended by the "stepchild" comment my apologies. > To those of you bored by history my pity, you don't know what you are > missing. > To those of you concerned with Joan of Arc I suggest you visit your local > library. There are several books written about her and the events of her > life. Read one, or several and you will find out a heck of alot more then > "she was burned as a witch". If you think politics are rough now - Huh! > Check out politics in Joan's time! > My apoligies to all for going on so long. > > Mark the Tax Zombie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:36:40 PST From: "Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: <19971031043640.14362.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> << It boggles them how I can sit down and disregard all else for the equivalent of a day while I start and finish _By the Sword_. It seems like some people have never read a good book in their life. They don't seem to know what it is like to get so wrapped up in a story that you don't want to do anything else except see what happens next. Am I alone in this? Oh, well.>> No, you're not alone in this, I have noticed it too. It is absolutely dismaying when I tell people that I read fantasy how many think I read porno. And the looks of bafflement I got when I my response to what did you do this weekend? was 'read all three Vanyel books and _By the Sword_', were priceless. The worst is when some of my friends think that when I tell them I'll meet them later because I'm in the middle of a book it means that I am mad with them or I don't like them any more. They just can't understand that someone might really rather finish reading a book than go out. They think it's an excuse. Anyway, I guess I've rattled on enough. But I just wanted to let you know that you're not the only one who has noticed the distinct lack of good taste in America's universities ;^) Zhai'helleva, Gwyn'he'far ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:01:43 PST From: "QuickStar" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: <19971031060144.29804.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Anyway, you wouldn't > believe the people at my college. There all like heathens or something, > most of them have never even heard of Mercedes Lackey much less read > anything by her, or Anne McCaffery for that matter. It boggles them how I > can sit down and disregard all else for the equivalent of a day while I > start and finish _By the Sword_. It seems like some people have never > read a good book in their life. They don't seem to know what it is like > to get so wrapped up in a story that you don't want to do anything else > except see what happens next. Am I alone in this? Oh, well. > Lots of Luck, > Rehtaeh Hmm I'd have to say no. I too get very wrapped up and attached to the story. I will if at all possible read until I can't read any more. Unfortunately life tends to get in the way of that :) So I read as much as I can. *********************************************************** Wind to thy wings Quickstar Mover of light Awaiting my bond-bird *********************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:23:26 -0800 From: Sorana Shadowcat To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Misty Books/Joan of Arc - History no Misty Message-ID: <3459795E.79DC-+AT+-olypen.com> Heyla all! Lady Guenevere wrote: > > Also, I was looking in my copy of Owlflight (don't worry, this isn't a > spoiler), and it lists as forthcoming the following bks: > 1. The Black Swan > 2. Phoenix and Ashes > 3. The Gates of Sleep > 4. The Serpent's Shadow > Does anyone have any ideas as to what these could be about? I know, I know! *waves her hand madly* They're remade fairy tales. The Black Swan is Misty's version of Swan Lake, The Gates of Sleep is Misty's version of Sleeping Beauty, & one of the other two is her version of Snow White. >> Did you know that at one time in the 1400s there were two popes<< Yeah! And then in an attempt to get rid of the other two they elected a third one. It didn't work though, so everyone was stuck with three popes for a while. Zhai'helleva, Herald-trainee Sorana Shadowcat, High Priestess of the Goddess of Unicorns, Knight of Amber and Marigold, soon to be (I hope) Goddess of Flions *************************************************************************What is the dark; shadows around you, why not take heart in the new day? Ever and always. Always and ever. No one can promise a dream for you. Time gave both Darkness and dreams to you. --Enya %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- %-+AT+- % And any ending that may seem to come is not truly an ending, but an illusion. For Time does not die, Time has neither beginning nor end, and so nothing can end or die that has once had a place in Time. --from Silver on the Tree by Susan Cooper ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:54:03 -0500 From: SisterBlueRose To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Reading Message-ID: <3459AABA.7EF4-+AT+-lightlink.com> The average person reads one book a year. They are not stupid, they are just doing other things. My close to 1000 is unimaginable to them. They are just other kinds of people. Advice. Only other readers will ever understand you. Don't marry a nonreader, or try to make one a best friend. Always be friendly, but most people won't understand you. You'll understand them, but they won't like that, as they don't understand themselves. Lucinda (COPP) CHAPMAN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:18:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Elizabeth Hoffman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re:You think its just american unis?! Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:14:10 GMT Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin=20 wrote: >But I just wanted to let you know that you're=20 > not the only one who has noticed the distinct lack of good taste in=20 > America's universities ;^) No its not just American Universities where this happens. I found=20 myself too embarassed to admit that the 'more important than going to=20 Amsterdam and getting wrecked' things I wanted to spend money on was=20 Fantasy novels. Whats more Waterstones now stocks 'erotic fantasy'=20 (porn books to the rest of us) next to the sci fi/ fantasy books and=20 does joint table displays. Which reminds me thanks to everyone who sent me the URLs for the=20 internet bookshop and amazon bookshop (anyone wants the emails=20 forwarded?), Waterstones in Southampton tried to tell me they=20 couldn't get Owlflight for less than 22 pound sterling (=A322) so I got=20 it for =A313.50 ish from the internet bookshop, or will have done so=20 when it comes through in the post. McKinley as in Robin McKinley that I used to read years ago and no=20 longer seems to be in stock in UK bookshops? Can I get a list of=20 what she's published? Thanks. Bye Liz ---------------------- Elizabeth Hoffman E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 8:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: "ABSOLUTE POWER, CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY" To: MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK Subject: What do you think of Karal? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* Message-ID: <971031080116.666c-+AT+-uscac1.usc.clu.edu> Hello to all. I'm reading the last of the Mage Storms and I was wondering, am I the only one who thinks Karal is to young to live through all that has happened? I admire the strenght he has, but sometimes I wonder how "real" he can be, I don't think many of us could pull through what that boy has gone through. Anyway I just wanted to know your opinions in the subject. have a nice day, Andros Hanarak ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:48:08 -0700 From: Susanna Warner To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: <3459E198.8DFF6860-+AT+-cadvision.com> Hi All: Heather Shannon wrote: > Is anybody out there? I checked my mail and I've received a grand total > of 4!!! messages. Is everybody sick or asleep? Well, if you check today you will find lots more mail. Sometimes there is lots and sometimes there is only a few. > Am I alone in this? Oh, well. > No, you are not alone in this. For me it started way back in junior high school (when I was 13) and I would get as many as 15 books out of our public library and then take them back, after reading them, 4 days later. Boy did I ever get strange looks. Some weekends, I will sit down and read as many as 6 to 8 books and still have time to go out, get on my computer and sleep too. I will be picking up my copy of Owlflight tomorrow. Zanna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:34:30 -0800 (PST) From: Varisa Huang To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: What do you think of Karal? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* Message-ID: <19971031143430.22456.rocketmail-+AT+-web4.rocketmail.com> ---"ABSOLUTE POWER, CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY" wrote: > I'm reading the last of the Mage Storms and I was wondering, am I > the only one who thinks Karal is to young to live through all that has > happened? I admire the strenght he has, but sometimes I wonder how "real" > he can be, I don't think many of us could pull through what that boy has > gone through. Anyway I just wanted to know your opinions in the subject. Well, how old is Karal exactly? Fifteen? Well it could be because of the upbringing...I mean, most of us do not have a Karsite upbringin where you have to be ultra neat. Also, Karal is a very religious person...and he has gone through some things that have toughened him, prepared him for more things to come. But still, I agree...he's not exactly your average person. Pretty rare sort of guy...but potentially real. yadda yadda yadda...excuse me for saying obvious stuff... Jhiend _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) From: Varisa Huang To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: <19971031144039.2324.rocketmail-+AT+-web1.rocketmail.com> ---Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin wrote: > No, you're not alone in this, I have noticed it too. It is absolutely > dismaying when I tell people that I read fantasy how many think I read > porno. And the looks of bafflement I got when I my response to what did > you do this weekend? was 'read all three Vanyel books and _By the > Sword_', were priceless. The worst is when some of my friends think > that when I tell them I'll meet them later because I'm in the middle of > a book it means that I am mad with them or I don't like them any more. > They just can't understand that someone might really rather finish > reading a book than go out. They think it's an excuse. Anyway, I guess > I've rattled on enough. But I just wanted to let you know that you're > not the only one who has noticed the distinct lack of good taste in > America's universities ;^) Well, I'm another one here who reads alot. Thankfully my friends are more understanding...some of them are also readers!!! Heh. It's really amazing how people can have such one-track minds. How they believe in stereotypes. (Ex. fantasy=porn) Oh well...but here I am, stereotyping non-readers... Gotta listen to my own advice more... Jhiend _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:47:40 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Allen Hyde To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Joan of Arc - History no misty Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Gwyn'he'far shena Tale'sedrin wrote: > > Did you know that at one time in the 1400's there were TWO popes? > Actually, yes I did. One in Rome and one in Avignon, France, right? Nope. There was never one in Avignon, because *he* wasn't the real pope. (hee-hee!) */me runs around giggling madly* Actually, at one point, there were three "papal" courts and three popes. You gave two of them. Anyone know where the third one was? Oh, and in reference to the person who earlier pointed out that JoA was burned as a witch because she wouldn't wear women's clothes, that may be true (it probably was one of the pieces of "evidence" in her trial), but it begs the issue. As my fave history professor was fond of saying "facts are not history! Motivations are history!" By this, she meant that the surface facts about something (the charges against JoA) are not the crucial part of history; the motivations behind those events are the crucial part. Whatever the charges against JoA, the interesting question is "what motivated the English to have her killed?" And I think that James(?) and Mark have put their finger on the key motivation: she was killed to demoralize the French and because she was an enemy (she did sort lead the French army that drove the English out of France, which is why she is one of the patron saints of France). May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd Councilor of Mist Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me //www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/prof/ken.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:53:47 -0800 (PST) From: Varisa Huang To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: <19971031145347.26620.rocketmail-+AT+-web4.rocketmail.com> ---QuickStar wrote: > Hmm I'd have to say no. I too get very wrapped up and attached to the > story. I will if at all possible read until I can't read any more. > Unfortunately life tends to get in the way of that :) So I read as much > as I can. Well, I have something like that here...except I read and read and I don't notice that the sun has gone down and that I need to turn on the light...this explains the glasses when I had perfect vision. -+AT+-_-+AT+- Sometimes I stupidly push myself to finish the book. That happened with David Edding's Mallorean. After that, I had a headache... Well, you're probably wondering why I'm replying with several emails just to say about the same things...I guess it's being new? Yes, I'm new to this list...hmmm....anything I need to know? (other than, obviously, Mercedes Lackey and her books) Jhiend _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:01:56 EDT From: mdnewton-+AT+-unccvx.uncc.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Helloooooo Out There!!! Message-ID: <009BC96C.7BE1D3C0.5-+AT+-unccvx.uncc.edu> HAPPY HALLOWEEN FOLKS!!! Sorry I haven't posted lately mid-terms:( Anyway I'm working through Queens Own to become a herald:) Have to go study! Later, Dave (Herald Wannabe, addmirer of Vanyel, and Lord of Fluff*smilez*) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:17:03 -0600 From: Chriss Buchanan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: What do you think of Karal? *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* Message-ID: <3459F66F.22B5-+AT+-nwol.net> Andros, Heyla. No, I don't find it hard to believe that Karal lived through all that "stuff" at his age. I know too many youngsters (I teach secondary students) and I know several who have gone through tons of "stuff (car wrecks, diabetes, terminal illnesses)." The general consensus seems to be "I'd rather not go through this, but you do what you have to do." I know one girl who has had major things happening in her life for about ten years, and she seems to cope better than her parents. I do find it hard to believe that he isn't rewarded in some major way to attempt to make up to him what he has lost, and I hope Misty won't leave it that way. Linda ABSOLUTE POWER, CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY wrote: > > Hello to all. > > I'm reading the last of the Mage Storms and I was wondering, am I > the only one who thinks Karal is to young to live through all that has > happened? I admire the strenght he has, but sometimes I wonder how "real" > he can be, I don't think many of us could pull through what that boy has > gone through. Anyway I just wanted to know your opinions in the subject. > > have a nice day, > > Andros Hanarak ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:05:48 -0600 From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu (Nina Ehgartner) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: more history & an Obmisty Message-ID: <199710311708.LAA26786-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu> At 03:19 PM 10/31/97 GMT, Kenneth Allen Hyde wrote: > >Actually, at one point, there were three "papal" courts and three popes. >You gave two of them. Anyone know where the third one was? Pisa, Italy Because of the "great Western Schism," a general church council met in Pisa to elect a new pope in the hopes of unifying the church. Alexander V was elected and Gregory XII and Benedict XIII were deposed. However, the now ex-popes in Rome and Avignon (respectively) refused to step down, so there were three popes (well from 1409-1410, anyways). As for motivations being the real story behind history, I tend to agree. Facts don't speak for themselves. They are the result of people's actions and motivations (which, IMESHO, make the past much more interesting). For example,(and keeping on schism theme), the Reformation didn't come about because Martin Luther's theses or general church corruption. Yes, these were factors,but so were the German princes. They didn't want to pay tithes or be submissive to a foreign church. The church had lots of land (and land=power) which the princes wanted for themselves. Now, for an ObMisty: By Winds, we know that Tarma has died. I'm also assuming that Kethry passed on as well. Now, because of the bond that they shared did they die at the same time (i.e., like a lifebond where if one partner dies, the other suicides or, like Sherrill goes on to a deep/permanent trance-like state) or did they die when it was their respective time? Nina Ehgartner Admissions Assistant-Office of Admissions and Financial Aid J.L. Kellogg Graduate School of Management email: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu Phone: (847) 491-3308 Fax: (847) 491-4960 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:21:23 -0500 From: Crystal Hewitt To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" Subject: RE: more history & an Obmisty Message-ID: <01BCE610.ACBC0640-+AT+-crystalh.phantomreality.com> [Crystal Hewitt] Nina scribed in the sands of time: Now, for an ObMisty: By Winds, we know that Tarma has died. I'm also assuming that Kethry passed on as well. Now, because of the bond that they shared did they die at the same time (i.e., like a lifebond where if one partner dies, the other suicides or, like Sherrill goes on to a deep/permanent trance-like state) or did they die when it was their respective time? [Crystal Hewitt] I also wonder about Warl, he once said that he and Tarma had joined so closely that he thought maybe the Star-eyed would take him with her when she (Tarma) died. 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Yes, I'm new to this list...hmmm....anything I need to know? (other than, obviously, Mercedes Lackey and her books) >> Welcome to the Misty List. Since you are new to the list I thought I'd say hi, and point you to a web page that contains useful info both about list etiquette and background (i.e. list jokes, the sheep thing, etc.).(You'll notice this when you've bben with us for a while) http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/misty/newbiefest.html the following URL contains a list of abbreviations commonly used on the list http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/misty/abbrev.html If you need help or have any doubts, please email me or any of the people with Councilor of Mist in their sigs. We are there to help. =) One thing that Mel (the list mistress) requests that we do is combine replies to several messages in one bigger message (what we call braiding). All that is explained in the URL I pointed out, but let me know if you need to have anything clarified. Welcome! we hope you will enjoy yourself with us. Meg ~Councilor of Mist~ Assistant to the God of New Homes specializing in Neighborhood Welcoming Committees Knight of Amber and Marigold Knight of Fairgrove (in training) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:35:02 -0800 From: dprono-+AT+-planet.eon.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hello out there! And I'm back Message-ID: <345A7936.405B-+AT+-planet.eon.net> Heyla there! Yes, I'm still alive, and I'm sorry for neglecting you! Betcha missed me! ;) Or not. :( I've been buisy with school, work, and sleeping, and dull stuff like that. Me? A social life? HA! So I checled my mail today and saw this... > Anyway, you wouldn't > believe the people at my college. There all like hethens or something, > most of them have never even heard of Mercedes Lackey much less read > anything by her, or Anne McCaffery for that matter. It boggles them how I > can sit down and disregard all else for the equivalent of a day while I > start and finish _By the Sword_. It seems like some people have never > read a good book in their life. They don't seem to know what it is like > to get so wrapped up in a story that you don't want to do anything else > except see what happens next. Am I alone in this? Oh, well. > Lots of Luck, > Rehtaeh Rehtaeh, I agree with you completely. Most of the people I know a) have a life, or b) Dont read. Most of the people I know dont read, and therefore a) dont have a clue what I'm talking about, or b) Think I'm a bit of a nerd. Which I am NOT. (Icewind, stop laughing!!!) So I'm in the same sort of boat you are in. I think that it's sad that people dont read. Reading challenges the imagination and makes you think. Sitting like a lump infront of the tv does not. Reading helps you broaden your horizons and understand the world around you. Even fantasy novels teaach people things, like how people think and react in different situations. And I dont have the actual quote, but someone brought up the fact that fantasy tends to be steriotyped. It is almost my personal crusade to distroy steriotypes when I find them. And I hate the fantasy steriotype woth a passion. Most of the time, when I say that I'm an avid reader of fantasy, I can SEE people visualising the really trashy fantasy. And there is alot of trashy fantasy out there, but with fabulous authors like Misty out there too, who cares?! I say if they want to be narrow minded, let them. Just dont turn fantasy into something it's not. WTTW, Yvonne Shadowshape bondmate to Chiti Goddess presumptive of Kelpies, Selkies, and othher Water-Borne Appreciator of Penguins Knight of Fluff (the origional) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 19:13:35 EST From: Eos419 To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: What Happened? Message-ID: <215acc18.345a7402-+AT+-aol.com> I got unsubscibed!! I suppose it had something to do with that aol error a couple days ago. I didn't check my mail yesterday, so I have no idea how long I've been unsubscribed for. Anything interesting happen over the past couple days? Kaeldra ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:05:37 +1100 (EST) From: Catherine A Murdoch To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: more history & an Obmisty Message-ID: I would like to know what happened to Warrl when Tarma died. Did he go back to his clan to become "my-famous-cousin-Warrl," or due to the bond between him and Tarma, did he die at the same time? At one stage, in one of the books, I think it was Oathbreakers, he said he thought that the Shin'a'in goddess might take him with Tarma when she died. It is possible that the Star-Eyed has a kyree who is s lesh'ye kal'en'a'dral? -- -- Catherine Murdoch | Internet: ulcam-+AT+-dewey.newcastle.edu.au Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 217147 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 "When I play with my cat, who knows but that she regards me as a plaything even more than I do her?" Michel de Montaigne, French essayist ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1381 **********************************