MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1385

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: reading
	by "Fam. Verkuijlen" <maddie-+AT+-fly.HiWAAY.net>
  2) Re: reading
	by Stasia <stasia-+AT+-gte.net>
  3) Re: Reading
	by AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
  4) Re: reading and various
	by Varisa Huang <jhiend-+AT+-rocketmail.com>
  5) Re: book collections
	by Elizabeth Hoffman <E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk>
  6) Hiya
	by Hyllarr-+AT+-aol.com
  7) various
	by seltan-+AT+-qinet.net
  8) Re: Tarma/Kethry vs. Xena/Gabrielle
	by AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
  9) Re: reading
	by AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
 10) books, books, and more books!
	by "K.S." <n9582531-+AT+-fozzie.cc.wwu.edu>
 11) Re: book collections
	by Heather Shannon <hshannon-+AT+-arches.uga.edu>
 12) questions
	by Christie Maas <christie-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl>
 13) Re: questions
	by Heather Shannon <hshannon-+AT+-arches.uga.edu>
 14) Re: book collections
	by Elizabeth Hoffman <E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk>
 15) Re: What do you think of Karal?
	by B10nd31 <B10nd31-+AT+-aol.com>
 16) Re: books, books, and more books!
	by "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 17) Re: questions
	by "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 18) Re: reading
	by wooledge-+AT+-kellnet.com
 19) Bond birds
	by "QuickStar" <plidian-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 20) Re: questions
	by "QuickStar" <plidian-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 21) Re: Short stories
	by "Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda" <Ailsa.nhaWinifreyda-+AT+-flinders.edu.au>
 22) Re: more history & an Obmisty
	by SamanthaMS-+AT+-aol.com

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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 21:31:40 -0600
From: "Fam. Verkuijlen" <maddie-+AT+-fly.HiWAAY.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: reading
Message-ID: <345E971C.12A8-+AT+-mail.hiwaay.net>

> 
> now for something completely different:
> 
> does anyone know how "fish" could be spelled "ghoti"?  <-- is supposed to
> illustrate the quirks of the english language......
> 


Hi all,

I'm very new to this list, wanted to lurk a little bit longer, but I
know the answer to this question:

gh pronounced as in enough (f)
o  pronounced as in woman (i)
ti pronounced as in negotiation (sh)

There is one other way to pronounce gothi

gh from though (..)
o from people (..)
t from whistle (..)
i from their (..)

A whole word pronounced as silence

Just being curious: do you all do formal introductions?


take care,

Mariet who reads way, way to much for her own good, judging by the state
of her house....

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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 22:48:44 -0500
From: Stasia <stasia-+AT+-gte.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: reading
Message-ID: <345E9B1C.2E-+AT+-gte.net>

K.S. wrote:

> does anyone know how "fish" could be spelled "ghoti"?  <-- is supposed to
> illustrate the quirks of the english language......

This is one I can answer on the limited time I have tonight <and 26
messages in my mailbox makes it tough!  %^} >  I did this in my EdPsych
class back in my old days of college.  Let me see if I can remember
this... gh is like the "fu" sound in "enough"... I don't quite remember
how the "o" worked into "i" sound, but the "ti" is like the "Sh" sound
in "nation".... Maybe someone else can get the part that I missed!  %^}

All warm and fluffy,
Amber

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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:27:53 -0500 (EST)
From: AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reading
Message-ID: <01IPLA4YQE088ZEG00-+AT+-delphi.com>

Rehtaeh--What you said.  About the only books I get rid of are SF books I
don't like (the Riverworld series is the only set I can remember) and
romance novels.  Most other books I hoarde.  My Dad once asked me why I
didn't get rid of them, just like yours asked.  I told him I like to reread
them.  And I feel as if I'll never see them again if I give them away; I'd
want desperately to go out and buy replacements.  (g)  I guess it's that I
value books.  I value the stories in them, cherish them.  They've given me
many happy hours.  You only get rid of things you don't value--unless you've
become able to give someone else that thing _because_ you've cherished it
and believe that person will treasure it as much.


     Chantal


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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:22:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Varisa Huang <jhiend-+AT+-rocketmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: reading and various
Message-ID: <19971104062241.6319.rocketmail-+AT+-attach1.rocketmail.com>


> > does anyone know how "fish" could be spelled
"ghoti"?  <-- is supposed to 
> > illustrate the quirks of the english
language...... 
> I can take a guess on most of it but I don't know
where the "o" comes in.
> "f" comes before "g"
> "i" comes after "h"
> "s" comes before "t"
> "i" comes after "h"
> I don't know if that'll help or not.
Interesting idea.  But I came accross that thing in
eight grade with my English teacher.
"gh" can be pronounced "f" (lauGH)
"o" can be pronounced "i" (wOmen)yes yes,personally I
say "women" but some ppl say "wimen"
I forgot about the "ti" part though...oh wait.
any word with "tion" at the end...for example,
"oration".  "Tion" sounds like "shion," doesn't it? 
So maybe "ti" can be considered "shi" and then into
"sh"

  sorry for YET another email about "ghoti"!  I just
realized how many ppl have replied to this by the
time I already wrote this email.

So maybe i should add more stuff.  
with the number of novels and japanese comics in the
house, I can practically open a mini library, not
counting all the legal stuff. And some things i read
over and over again, like the Belgariad and
Mallorean, the LHT series, all the jap comics, the
Winds series...

This habit i picked up from my older sister...-+AT+-_-+AT+-

Jhiend
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:00:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Elizabeth Hoffman <E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: book collections
Message-ID: <SIMEON.9711041222.B-+AT+-sghb-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk>

Hi,
 [Please read this with an appropriately melodramatic voice.] 
Give away books once you've read them?!  How could you say 
such a thing.
  Loan them yes.  I try and re-read the earlier books in a series just
before a new one is due out.  Is it just me that makes sure as a first
gesture when I move in somewhere is to find the local bookshop? From 
the sounds of it I'm luckier than most of you poor Americans. I can't 
drive, but at least the bus service is reasonably frequent and goes 
into the main shopping area from near my house.  I have to sympathise 
with anyone who has to rely on lifts to get to the library or 
bookshop, no one else ever wants to spend any time there!  Did 
everyone else get asked why they wanted to take their book collection 
with them when they left home, can't you wait till your somewhere 
permanently?  (like in 10 years time, er no)  I had to rely on a lift 
to leave home and the comments when half my stuff was books....
Now to go to the library and read something rather less interesting 
and I used to think the cornflakes packet great reading.
----------------------
Elizabeth Hoffman
E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk


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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:18:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Hyllarr-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Hiya
Message-ID: <971104081826_-1341486292-+AT+-mrin44.mail.aol.com>

Heyla all
I tried to send a copy of my short story to several of you, but it got
returned )c:
It wouldn't take a single name. Would anyone mind if I posted it to the list?
It isn't finished yet, so it isn't as long as a book. 
Chocolate-flavored sheep to all!

   Amy

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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 22:11:47 +0800
From: seltan-+AT+-qinet.net
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: various
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971104141147.0067500c-+AT+-qinet.net>

for "fish" as "ghoti," pronounce:
"gh" as in "tough" or "enough,"
"o" as in "women,"
"ti" as in "attention" or "solution"

I got that from a section in a book on "Bad Spellers' Nightmare,"
letters/groups that had different sounds depending on the words. However,
I'm to lazy to get up and get the book that is 5 steps away from my seat...

^*^*^*

I think somewhere in Storms it was mentioned that An'desha had to trance to
access the really old memories, and that it was a tedious business. Besides
which -- most people have finite memories, meaning that if they have several
decades(was it centuries?) worth of memories, they probably are going to
forget some of the details, and the older stuff gets buried. A catch though
-- the reason we don't remember stuff from when we were babies has to do
with the fact that we couldn't really form connections in our minds (the
process of learning), but if the memory is from a long way off when the
ability to form connections was present, I don't know if we'd still be able
to remember with the same amount of difficulty as more recent (ie, a couple
of yrs. ago) memories.

^*^*^*

"Just one more page..." I know 'bout that. Afterwards: "Whoops, it's nearly
12 midnight, and I still haven't done my math homework!" Other thing is I
then suffer from lack of sleep causing bad temper and headaches. And I can't
clear my room of books to resist temptation -- there's no place elsewhere!
Hoarding books is another thing I'm familiar with: visiting friends describe
the greater area of our basement as a library. Both my parents are great
readers, plus every year we probably buy at least 50 books. (And I think the
number's been growing...)

^*^*^*

Sometime in July/August, I handed my sister the 3 DT books, since she's
interested in witchcraft and that kinda thing. Last weekend, she *finally*
picked up CotN, read it through, and the next night kept asking me for
assurances that there were no such things as psivamps or Guardians.
Something of a victory, though I doubt I could get her to touch Misty's
other series. 

=+=+= That is all for now, sorry I didn't mention the starters of any threads.

-Selene
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selly-+AT+-geocities.com|seltan-+AT+-qinet.net
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8121/
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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:27:58 -0500 (EST)
From: AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Tarma/Kethry vs. Xena/Gabrielle
Message-ID: <01IPLA53CHY68ZEG00-+AT+-delphi.com>

Hm!  I hadn't thought of that similarity before.  I think it fits better
with Tarma and Xena than with Kethry and Gabrielle, but I can definitely see
what you're talking about.


     Chantal


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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 23:28:04 -0500 (EST)
From: AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: reading
Message-ID: <01IPLA574LMS8ZEG00-+AT+-delphi.com>

On  3-NOV-1997 18:10:59.1 mercedes-lackey said to AERDEN
 me>********************************
 me>I've also been thinking alot about Karal.  I have come to a conclusion.
 me>I think that it's hard for a lot of us to imagine the kind of life Karal
 me>was used to.

I agree completely.  He'd lived like a monk for a lot of his life, and he
was a stableman's son (I think) before that.  So he learned before he came
to Valdemar how to be studious and tough, and how to work hard.  I'd have
been hard put to have been that disciplined as young as Karal was.

 me>does anyone know how "fish" could be spelled "ghoti"?  <-- is supposed
 me>to illustrate the quirks of the English language......

Yep.  :)  'gh' as in 'enough', 'o' as in 'women,' and 'ti' as in 'nation.'



     Chantal


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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:44:52 -0800 (PST)
From: "K.S." <n9582531-+AT+-fozzie.cc.wwu.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: books, books, and more books!
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.971104083750.3151C-100000-+AT+-fozzie.cc.wwu.edu>

on the subject of books, i think the first fantasy book i ever picked up 
was a mccaffrey, i believe it was moreta(?) and i was in the fourth 
grade.  for some reason the PTB decided that it was childrens book.  i 
just remember the scantily clad lady on the cover and my mother wondering 
why in the world i would want to read something like _that_
does anyone ever look back to when they were a kid and think: man, i 
really had it together, what in the world happenend?!

Now for some misty
in magic's promise van is in the forest and he thinks offhand about how 
the first time he went through the forest it almost scared him silly 
because of the magic that was rollin around.  my question is did he have 
a potential mage gift?  and does everyone have the _potential_ for gifts 
or do just a few?  and if he was sensitive enough to sense the magic, why 
didn't savil pick up on that when she tested the family before van got 
sent to havens?  
yikes!  have to run, just looked at the clock

------------------------
"Ff-ff-f-flames. On the side of my face....."
    (Mrs. White, Clue)


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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:05:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: Heather Shannon <hshannon-+AT+-arches.uga.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: book collections
Message-ID: <SIMEON.9711041209.A-+AT+-ucns.cssites.uga.edu>


On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:14:26 GMT Elizabeth Hoffman 
<E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> I can't drive, but at least the bus service is reasonably frequent and goes 
> into the main shopping area from near my house.
My problem is, I try  to do my work and errands during the morning as my first class doesn't 
start until 2:20, but my last class doesn't end until 6:40 and, get this, the city buses 
stop running at 6:00, even on the weekends.  Is that stupid or what?

>Did everyone else get asked why they wanted to take their book collection 
> with them when they left home, can't you wait till your somewhere 
> permanently?  (like in 10 years time, er no)  

Actually, like I said, my mom is pretty good about it.  We've been trying to find the 
hardback combinations of books so that I don't have to take so many paperbacks.  The only 
one I have right now is Piers Anthony's first three books combined into one massive book, 
kind of like the Belgarid (sp probably) which I do also have now that I think about it.  Of 
course these way at least ten times more than the paperbacks adn do take up more room, but 
oh well.  Also, whenever I go home I take books I've already finished reading and bring back 
more.  Oh, in case any of you are bored and looking for a quick read, I found a series of 
books called _Diadem_ for juveniles-preteens, but I'm 18 and I like them.  They're also only 
about $3 which is nice.  Right now there are four out, and I'm waiting for the next two to 
come out so I can run out and but them.  
								Lots of Luck,
									Rehtaeh



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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:19:40 +0100
From: Christie Maas <christie-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: questions
Message-ID: <345F673C.6617-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl>

Hi everybody,

I have a few questions, and they are -very- puzzling.

first: in the outhbound, Kethry hints that there are some spells, that
need not so much the gift, but more training.
I think this is true, but I'm not sure.
for example the vrondi, truth-spell is done by non-mages.

the more impotant question is: in Outhbreakers, Tarma is calling The
Star Eyed, and Roald joibs her, and The Star Eyed says 

'this is well met, and well met again.This is a good land , yours. ...
 Do we not all serve to drive back the Dark, each in his own fashion?
So  I cry-well met, Children of My Other Selfe!'

I think this implies that an other face of The Star Eyed is implicetly
involved in Valdemar, but again, I'm not sure. Has anybody a clearer
point of vieuw ?

chrisje.

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:56:38 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: Heather Shannon <hshannon-+AT+-arches.uga.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: questions
Message-ID: <SIMEON.9711041238.A-+AT+-ucns.cssites.uga.edu>


On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:29:52 GMT Christie Maas 
<christie-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl> wrote:

> the more impotant question is: in Outhbreakers, Tarma is calling The
> Star Eyed, and Roald joibs her, and The Star Eyed says 
> 
> 'this is well met, and well met again.This is a good land , yours. ...
>  Do we not all serve to drive back the Dark, each in his own fashion?
> So  I cry-well met, Children of My Other Selfe!'
> 
> I think this implies that an other face of The Star Eyed is implicetly
> involved in Valdemar, but again, I'm not sure. Has anybody a clearer
> point of vieuw ?

Personally I think that you're on the right track.  The Star Eyed was IMHO was very overtly 
saying that she did play a role in more lives than just the ones that worshiped her as her 
(does that make sense?).  I especially liked when she reversed the colors of Tarma's adn 
Roald's uniforms (black to white and vice versa); it just proved to me more that she did 
have a hand in more things than were obvious.  Kind of like a big cosmic (god) joke.
							Lots of Luck,
								Rehtaeh


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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:47:40 +0000 (GMT)
From: Elizabeth Hoffman <E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: book collections
Message-ID: <SIMEON.9711041840.A-+AT+-sgha-08.sucs.soton.ac.uk>


On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:24:17 GMT Rehtaeh wrote:

>Oh, in case any of you are bored and looking for a quick read, 
>I found a series of 
> books called _Diadem_ for juveniles-preteens, but I'm 18 and I like them.  They're also only 
> about $3 which is nice.  Right now there are four out, and I'm waiting for the next two to 
> come out so I can run out and but them.  

Theres a series out in the UK too, point fantasy, published by 
Scholastic books.  I still buy the ones by Tamora Pierce, going into 
the childrens or teenage section is embarrasing (especially given 
that people have been know to underestimate my age by 10 years!) but 
well worth it. Thanks for the reminder, I haven't checked for new 
books in that series for ages.
----------------------
Elizabeth Hoffman
E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk


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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:41:00 EST
From: B10nd31 <B10nd31-+AT+-aol.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: What do you think of Karal?
Message-ID: <1ae7624.345f7a20-+AT+-aol.com>

i thought that i may as well add my tuppance worth (£0.02d).

childhood is a recent concept, at least in the western world.
in the 19th centuary, boys as young as 12 served in the Royal Navy as
midshipmen and many of them fought and died for their country in the naplionic
wars as well as ensign offices in the army, then you also had cabin boys and
drummer boys dying in battles.
also children both boys and girls worked down mines carrying water and lunch
for miners, among other things, earning money to help support their families,
some of them died in mining accidents and children that worked in weaving
mills.
and children working with chimmery sweeps.

what i am getting at! 
is that less then a hundred years ago, children had greater
responceabilities and their fore greater maturity, then they do now.

Shas Ellion


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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 14:37:57 PST
From: "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: books, books, and more books!
Message-ID: <19971104223759.19801.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

K.S. wrote:
<<on the subject of books, i think the first fantasy book i ever picked 
up was a mccaffrey, i believe it was moreta(?) and i was in the fourth 
grade.>>

I had read children's fantasy often, but the first real fantasy novel I 
read was By The Sword. I'd been browsing our local bookstore and gotten 
out of the children's section somehow, and picked up BTS because (I 
wonder if I should be ashamed to admit) because of the 'pretty white 
horse' on the cover. I was immediately hooked. After BTS came The 
Oathbound and Oathbreakers, then the Winds trilogy, then LHM, then 
Arrows... I had them all out of order, but I didn't care. Now I've 
caught up with the series and have to wait for each book to come out, 
groan! Somewhere along the way I got into Dragonlance, and from there 
any fantasy novel I could get my hands on was legal prey. If I can read 
it all the way through, I generally keep it--my grandfather had to build 
a new set of shelves for me after my own overflowed.

About the Tarma-Kethry/Xena-Gabrille...I suppose it work with Tarma and 
Xena, but Gabrielle is more of a sidekick than anything, whereas Tarma 
and Keth are partners. Kethry is not a master swordswoman, but she 
doesn't need to be--she's a mage, and a powerful one at that, and with 
Need helping out she can take care of herself pretty well.

Zha'hai'allav'a,
Raven Darkblade
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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 15:03:17 PST
From: "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: questions
Message-ID: <19971104230330.14972.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Chrisje wrote:

<<first: in the outhbound, Kethry hints that there are some spells, that 
need not so much the gift, but more training. I think this is true, but 
I'm not sure. for example the vrondi, truth-spell is done by 
non-mages.>>

Yes, as far as I've seen the Gift is not precisely necessary for 
magic--although the power must come from somewhere. Blood magic is a 
good example of this; although (shades of Ma'ar/Falconsbane) Gifted 
mages can and do use it, it is also frequently used by those who want to 
use magic but have no Talent. 

<<the more impotant question is: in Outhbreakers, Tarma is calling The
Star Eyed, and Roald joibs her, and The Star Eyed says 'this is well 
met, and well met again.This is a good land , yours. ... Do we not all 
serve to drive back the Dark, each in his own fashion? So  I cry-well 
met, Children of My Other Selfe!'

I think this implies that an other face of The Star Eyed is implicetly
involved in Valdemar, but again, I'm not sure. Has anybody a clearer
point of vieuw ?>>

I don't think when the Star-Eyed said "Children of My Other Self" she 
meant that another face of Herself was active in Valdemar, though I 
suspect She meddles there when She sees fit. I think She meant more that 
the ruling power in Valdemar is another aspect of Good. The way She 
speaks of Valdemar and the Heralds ("This is a good land, yours...") it 
sounds to me as though She is looking at it as belonging to someone 
else, or at least not belonging to Her.

Zha'hai'allav'a,
Raven Darkblade

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:16:04 -0500
From: wooledge-+AT+-kellnet.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: reading
Message-ID: <19971104191604.10196-+AT+-phoenix.kellnet.com>

K.S. (n9582531-+AT+-fozzie.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:

> I mean, we have everything we could possibly need all 
> around us, we really don't have to worry about our world suddenly being 
> demolished by a force greater than us <unless you think there is a race 
> of aliens out there destined to destroy us, and in that case, well, we 
> don't know about them yet>.

You've forgotten one important aspect of late-20th-century life: the
shadow of nuclear war.  We tend to ignore it now, but 20 to 40 years
ago the American people (including children) were absolutely *terrified*
of it.

-- 
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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 16:14:19 PST
From: "QuickStar" <plidian-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Bond birds
Message-ID: <19971105001419.23405.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Excuse for the short post.  However I had heard a rumor from others on 
the list that there is an indvidual who raises and delegates bondbirds.  
I was wondering if anyone would claim to be that person or would be able 
to give their address I would appreciate it.
Thank you

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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 16:23:14 PST
From: "QuickStar" <plidian-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: questions
Message-ID: <19971105002314.28781.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>




>Hi everybody,
>
>I have a few questions, and they are -very- puzzling.
>
>first: in the outhbound, Kethry hints that there are some spells, that
>need not so much the gift, but more training.
>I think this is true, but I'm not sure.
>for example the vrondi, truth-spell is done by non-mages.
It was my understanding that these are the spells that involve 
other-planer creatures.  Such as the Vrondi, however it seems to me that 
there are other that are just a simple manipulation of the magical 
fields but not to the extent of someone who has the gift.


>the more impotant question is: in Outhbreakers, Tarma is calling The
>Star Eyed, and Roald joibs her, and The Star Eyed says 
>
>'this is well met, and well met again.This is a good land , yours. ...
> Do we not all serve to drive back the Dark, each in his own fashion?
>So  I cry-well met, Children of My Other Selfe!'
>
>I think this implies that an other face of The Star Eyed is implicetly
>involved in Valdemar, but again, I'm not sure. Has anybody a clearer
>point of vieuw 

It was my thought though I'm not sure I have any support for this that 
there are two gods one of the female that is amoung other things the 
goddes of valdemar and the shin'a'in and the Tayledras.  And a male one 
that is the god of iftel and Karse and others maybe even Rethwellen.  I 
think this was some what indicated when Kethry had a run in with The 
Star Eyed one who then said something to the effect of, nonsense I am 
but another face of you goddes ,I forget the name, so of course I know 
you.  
This I think is how they are arranged and my take on the situation with 
the goddess of valdemar and the Shin'a'in



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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 10:26:29
From: "Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda" <Ailsa.nhaWinifreyda-+AT+-flinders.edu.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Short stories
Message-ID: <3.0.2.16.19971105102629.3357403a-+AT+-bilbo.cc.flinders.edu.au>

At 12:08 AM 4/11/97 GMT, you wrote:
>Heyla
> I'm an 8th grader from Oklahoma. I'm working on a short story, only on the 4
>or 5th ling right now, though. Would someone be willing to read it and
>possibly critique it? It's going to be from a deer's or horse's point of
>view. Anyone willing to suffer through it? Thanks in advance!!
>
>       Amy
>
Amy, if you want an Australian perpective, I would be honoured to read it!

Warm regards, 

Aili & Zika (my virtual bondbird - goshawk)

Herald healer, Dragon-friend and Renunciate
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:48:21 -0500 (EST)
From: SamanthaMS-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: more history & an Obmisty
Message-ID: <971104201849_1568910545-+AT+-mrin47>

<<Now, for an ObMisty:  By Winds, we know that Tarma has died.  I'm also
assuming that Kethry passed on as well. Now, because of the bond that they
shared did they die at the same time (i.e., like a lifebond where if one
partner dies, the other suicides or, like Sherrill goes on to a
deep/permanent trance-like state) or did they die when it was their
respective time?  >>

Remember in Storms when that Shin'a in warrior says to Elspeth "Student of my
Student" that was Tarma she's not dead yet. Just had to add my two cents.
                        Samantha Schacter Bard in training

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