MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1449 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Recommended authors by "marty l. adkins" 2) Kestra'chern (sort of) by Sorchafyr 3) Re: braid by Riyan699 4) response and questions by Vicky Drinnen 5) Recommended authors by GrobuHit-+AT+-t-online.de (M. Grob u. S. Hitzler) 6) Fast Question by Beth Cavanaugh 7) Re: response and questions by "Raven Darkblade" 8) Re: Fast Question by Skandranon 9) Heyla to the list! by "Brighthawk K'Treva" 10) Re: Fast Question by "Brighthawk K'Treva" 11) Re: response and questions by "Delilah" 12) Sword of Ice by Susan Read 13) Book recommendations by "marty l. adkins" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 06:12:34 -0500 From: "marty l. adkins" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Recommended authors Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980106061234.0068fe64-+AT+-pop.mindspring.com> Some excellent authors have already been recommended for Skyfire's delectation. Don't forget Andre Norton, however. The Prime Mover for generations of authors and fans, she's still the best. Also, Robin McKinley, Patricia McKillip, Charles de Lint, and Steven Brust are of interest. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:53:58 EST From: Sorchafyr To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Kestra'chern (sort of) Message-ID: <583185f.34b21b58-+AT+-aol.com> Heyla Listsibs, Boy, leave the list for a weekend and look what happens to your mailbox! Regarding kestra'chern Heartspring writes: << There's a fear that exists, borne from your own (or my own as the case may be) insecurity and inferiority complexes, that you aren't enough--or maybe he's looking at someone else. The doubt always exists because now, you not only have your sex to compete with, but the other sex as well... >> That started me thinking (the major reason for subscribing to this list). I personally don't suffer from the fault of jealousy (don't get me wrong, I do suffer from many OTHER faults, just not this one). So, as objectively as a human can be (which, admittedly is not very) it seems to me that jealousy is more of a control issue, or possiveness issue with a bit of self-esteem problem thrown in. Given that people who seek use a kestra'chern's services have problems that need to be healed, I would think that a sexual involvment with one would (or could) lead to more problems than it fixes. I do believe the kestra'chern to be professional enough to recognize when that would be a factor, and not involve sex in the treatment, but that leads me to wonder how often they truly use sex, and how much is exagerated by sensationalism on the part of the client (or those who are jealous they aren't the client, sour grapes and all that). The Griffon series is the only Misty thing I don't own so I can't look up textual evidence, which I'm very big on. Just wanted to throw this thought into the air and see where it landed (if it does come down anywhere). And I also apologize for the excessive use of parentheses, sometimes I have those days. There seems to be enough fluff on the list for now, I'll leave this as a serious (or semi-serious) post. And thanks to Dax and Carrach for the jokes. Shade and Sweet Water, Sorchafyr Knight of Fluff by Decree of LadyoftheSummerSunshine ************************************************************* This is the essence of an english major; he will throw his papers to the floor in a fit of pique...then write a poem about them. ************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:29:59 EST From: Riyan699 To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: braid Message-ID: <46cf5b75.34b29448-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-06 00:09:21 EST, you write: << Yes, Skywolf. Have you tried Guy Gavriel Kay yet? Or Marion Zimmer Bradley? Anne McCaffrey? Peter S. Beagle? Julian May? CJ Cherryh? Joel Rosenberg? David Eddings? Try some of the above authors if you haven't already. They're all pretty good. >> I would suggest Melanie Rawn to anyone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 16:03:54 -0500 From: Vicky Drinnen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: response and questions Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980106160354.0069ba10-+AT+-cncacc.cn.edu> I will apologize in advance-the message I'm responding to was sent to me on 12-14. I've been away from school for three weeks and I am just getting around to reading the mail(204 messages!!) Having said that, Raven Darkblade wrote: ME TOO! I still haven't been able to get a hold of the LHM books or the Arrows books. I sat down and read By the Sword in one night and immediatly read it again to make sure that I didn't miss anything. Two questions: 1) Who or what is Haighley(sp?)? I think I saw a reference to it in a post and maybe in Storm Breaking, but after the first 150 mailings I lost track! 2) Is Owlflight a part of the Valdemar books and does anybody know what it is about? Thanks! Vicky *************************************************** * Knight Vicky of the Fluffian Order * * vmdrinnen-+AT+-cncacc.edu * * Carson-Newman College * * Jefferson City, TN * * Visit the Knights of Fluff at: * * http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/4991/ * *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:47:24 +0100 From: GrobuHit-+AT+-t-online.de (M. Grob u. S. Hitzler) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Recommended authors Message-ID: Heyla, > Have you tried Guy Gavriel Kay yet? Or Marion Zimmer >Bradley? Anne McCaffrey? Peter S. Beagle? Julian May? CJ Cherryh? Joel >Rosenberg? David Eddings? Try some of the above authors if you haven't >already. They're all pretty good. I agree with most of these. But please, not Joel Rosenberg! I read his "Guardians of the Flame" series and was so sickened that I gave up after the third volume. Too much violence and machoism for my taste. His female characters were just good enough to be raped and get pregnant, his males didn't do much else than kill. My sister continued till volume 6 with gritted teeth and confirmed that it was a big waste of time. I personally also don't like MZB as an author but all I have read are "The Ruins of Isis" which had a disappointing ending and "The Mists of Avalon". Of the latter I can't remember much after all those years (10 to be precise) - which is always a bad point for a book IMO. It didn't impress me then and I wouldn't re-read it now because I am bored by all those Arthurian rewrites. (SORRY!!! Please no flames!!! The goodies are yet to come!!!) I liked both Peter Beagle and Guy Gavriel Kay. Beagle's "The Last Unicorn" are a classic and his "A Fine and Private Place" a must. The only Kay I read so far was "A Song for Arbonne" which is excellently written fantasy with some nice scenes, good characterizations and a nice plot. Nothing outstanding but good. CJ Cherryh created one of my fav characters, Ishade (Thieves World) and did a good job with "The Goblin Mirror". The others I can't judge cause I haven't tried anything by them yet. (McCaffrey is on my shelf but one of the Dragon books is still missing!) My recommendations include Susan Dexter's "Allaire" cycle, anything by Susan Cooper (young adult fantasy, set in real world with magic working and celtic elements), Barbara Hambly (Darwath trilogy plus two follow-ups, Antryg Windrose trilogy), Patricia McKillip's Cygnet duology (makes up her own myths which she incorporates as Jungian-like symbols), Jane Yolen's Great Alta trilogy (haven't read book 3 yet), anything by Terry Pratchett if you like humorous fantasy, Tanith Lee's Unicorn books (didn't like "The Blood of Roses", too much gritty magic and violence and religion and perversion). I also like Diane Paxson's Westria books but my sister didn't make it past book one for she disliked the characters. If you like vampires (like I do) try Barbara Hambly ("Those Who Hunt the Night" aka "Immortal Blood" and "Travelling with the Dead") or "Burying the Shadows" by Storm Constantine. Most of those have strong female characters. Most have non-standard plots and/or made me laugh and/or cry. Wind to thy Wings Shantaya Autumnleaf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:29:43 GMT From: Beth Cavanaugh To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Fast Question Message-ID: <199801062329.XAA29438-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> I posted this onec, but only got one reply, and I think, unless some one knows exactly what it is, this could make a good topic.... What is a perchi? (From BG) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 16:18:27 PST From: "Raven Darkblade" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: response and questions Message-ID: <19980107001828.11595.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Skywolf wrote: <> I strongly recommend Dennis L. McKiernan and the duo of Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, in particular the Dragonlance books and the Rose of the Prophet trilogy. Tamora Pierce's Song of The Lioness Quartet is good, and if you can handle non-happy endings the Ravenloft book Dance of the Dead by Christie Golden is a good choice. I liked Elaine Cunningham's Forgotten Realms books Elfshadow and Silver Shadows, and Madeleine L'Engle's books. If you like sci-fi, Orson Scott Card's book Ender's Game is excellent. ********************************************************************** Vicky wrote: <<1) Who or what is Haighlay(sp?)? I think I saw a reference to it in a post and maybe in Storm Breaking, but after the first 150 mailings I lost track!>> The Haighlei are a culture of black-skinned people who live across a sea to the very south. They're mentioned in BG and possibly other books, and turn up in WG to play a large role in general. <<2) Is Owlflight a part of the Valdemar books and does anybody know what it is about?>> It is, and I'm not sure. You can read an excerpt from it at http://firebirdarts.com/ Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves \ \\ \%, ,' , ,. \%\,';/J,";";";;,,. \%;((`);)));`;;,., ,`;))((;`,`((;(;;);;,` ;`((```))`~ ``; );(;));;, `-+AT+- `(( `), (;;);;;;` / `) `` /;~ `;;;;;;;);, / , ` ,/` / (`;;(;;;;, (o /)_/` / ,);;;`;;;;;`,, `~` `~` ` ``;, ``;" ';, `' `' `' abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ http://dragonlance.justbecause.org/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:10:30 EST From: Skandranon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fast Question Message-ID: In a message dated 98-01-06 18:44:10 EST, you write: > I posted this onec, but only got one reply, and I think, unless some one > knows exactly what it is, this could make a good topic.... > > What is a perchi? (From BG) > My guess from the context is that perchis are the equivalent of prostitutes. Barb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 17:50:13 PST From: "Brighthawk K'Treva" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Heyla to the list! Message-ID: <19980107015013.25864.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Heyla all! My name is Brighthawk and I'm new to the list. I've been reading Misty for about five years now. I read the Valdemar series books, Bardic Voices books, and Diana Tregarde books, although I'm building my collection to include all of Misty's universes! I can't wait to get involved with the list, so don't be surprised if I show up a lot in your email. ;) Bright Blessings, Brighthawk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 17:56:10 PST From: "Brighthawk K'Treva" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fast Question Message-ID: <19980107015610.29159.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> I agree... I believe Drake discusses the perceived indistinction between perchi and kestra'chern as that kestra'chern used sex for healing as well as pleasure where as perchi simply gave pleasure. Brighthawk > >In a message dated 98-01-06 18:44:10 EST, you write: > >> I posted this onec, but only got one reply, and I think, unless some one >> knows exactly what it is, this could make a good topic.... >> >> What is a perchi? (From BG) >> >My guess from the context is that perchis are the equivalent of prostitutes. > >Barb > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:44:11 -0500 From: "Delilah" To: Subject: Re: response and questions Message-ID: <199801070349.WAA18513-+AT+-post1.fast.net> Skywolf wrote: > [I] would like to know of some good authors to read. Any suggestions?> Sharon Shinn's Archangel and Jovah's Angel were really good. R.A. Salvadore's Drow series are good reads to. My favorite fantasy novel was Neverending Story by Michael Ende. It's actually better in book form then in the movies. -Delilah- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 23:27:30 -0700 From: Susan Read To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Sword of Ice Message-ID: <34B32052.E94723AC-+AT+-connect.ab.ca> I would appreciate it if some one could provide me with a review of some of the stories in this book. Thanks in advance Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 02:02:57 -0500 From: "marty l. adkins" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Book recommendations Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980107020257.0068c42c-+AT+-pop.mindspring.com> You list-sibs have mentioned many intriguing choices. Here are a couple more goodies: Tanya Huff, Anne Logston, and Patricia C. Wrede [the latter two especially known for humorous, but thoughtful fantasy]. Holly Lisle, Elizabeth Moon, and Ardath Mayhar are also highly recommended. I'd suggest you pick up an anthology with a theme you're interested in [such as _Chicks in Chainmail_ edited by Esther Friesner], notice which authors have stories you especially enjoy, and start looking for their stuff. That is, after all, how many of us got hooked. Good luck, and good reading!--Jerrie, who, excited about [re]organizing all the books on all the shelves, asked her husband to share her enthusiasm. His riposte, "Isn't that like rearranging the deck furniture on the _Titanic_?" [years before the movie came out] ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1449 **********************************