MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1529 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Storms/stuff by "Becca Gordon" 2) by "Terrae N. Loucks" 3) re:Quite Fluff by "Terrae N. Loucks" 4) Re: Shadowspun's friend by "Terrae N. Loucks" 5) by "Terrae N. Loucks" 6) More Storms stuff by Rainbow 7) Re: More Storms stuff by Tifalheart-+AT+-webtv.net (April Hunt) 8) companion's mind speach/Empath's by "Kat McKinzie" 9) Re:not getting the list by jmg300 10) Babbling by Javelin 11) Movies/History/Rolan Choosing Talia by "FallenAngel" 12) small Story, stuff by andifairy-+AT+-mindless.com 13) dual names, ObMisty by Ana Cotton 14) Re: Rolan Choosing Talia by Tifalheart-+AT+-webtv.net (April Hunt) 15) fluff-+AT+-}~~~~',~~~~~~~~~{-+AT+- by Tifalheart-+AT+-webtv.net (April Hunt) 16) My first braid :) by Anna 17) Re: More Storms stuff/Movies/History/Chosing Talia/ObMisty by Kago23618 18) Quenten/real or no?/reincarnation/Storms by shadowspun-+AT+-juno.com (Heather A Tomlinson) 19) braid / Hall of Mist by katiekins2-+AT+-juno.com (Katie Snyder) 20) Delurking into the Hall by fenris-+AT+-ptdprolog.net (Taynar Fenrir) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:44:15 PST From: "Becca Gordon" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Storms/stuff Message-ID: <19980320094419.8410.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Seashimmer asked What makes Empathy so different from Mindspeaking or Mage gift in this respect? Earlier in the book it says "anyone can be broken"; why not Empaths? Where did Tremane get this view of Solaris? I have a pet theory about ther difference between the mage gifts and such. IMHO Mabe there are four areas in which a person can have gifts. Healing(mind magic wise) True mind magic, True mage gift, and Empathy. Just like a Healer can't be forced(I don't think it was ever tryed either) nither can an empath be forced. I mean empaths can sence peopls feeling so for thier gift to work their own feelings need to be at least some what stable. Just found Text ev for the second queston. Sr pg 332 * * S P O I L E R * * He did not expact the answer he got- a cat alright , but with the cat was a woman garbed in elaborate robes. It goes on to describe how angery she is about the assasinations. she puts him under a truth spell and finds out why he did it and she also finds out that under the emperial training that he was a good guy. she leaves and dosen't take off the truth spell when she leaves so he is stuck telling the truth. *] * E N D S P O I L E R * * SO thats why he dosen't like her a whole lot*g* NightFire looks over at Becca, Becca gives her a conspiratal (sp) wink and they dash in to the center of the Hall just as some gypsy music decends through out the hall. the two dance as if they had not a care. The gypsy dances so that it makes you think of fire in its purest forms, it's almost as if you could warm yourself. the Tiger-Wolf like a mountain river the two dances compliment and off set each other. Night Fire grabs the troll and Becca grabs the nearest partner and a snowball dance has begun! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:07:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Terrae N. Loucks" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Message-ID: Heartsong removes herself from the Mist with a hesitant step. As she sees Riverwolf waiting in open invitation, she runs and hugs her. Then she mind sends with tears in her eyes: Thank you for the welcome. I thought I was being too much of a pain. I do accept your invitation to come join in and so does Apache Tear. Thank you. With that, Heartsong sends a huge blue mage light to iluminate the hall which gives of rays of warmth and welcome. Then she sends down a shower of Apache Tears that neatly land in each of the listsibs hands. Then she recites the story of the Apache Tear: It date back to rhe Cherokee Indians and is a symbol of power. They are actually obsidian and when held up to the lite can be seen thru like glass. Enjoy with good health. Just as Riverwolf is about to walk off, Heartsong grabs her by the arm and opens her hand. In it she places a special Apache Tear amulet that is surounded in amythest. Then she bows in reverance and head off to join her bouncing familiar in the dance and relvry. She even has a few sheep to hand out later. (wink) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:21:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Terrae N. Loucks" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: re:Quite Fluff Message-ID: Heartsong feels the love of the sheep shaped moose and wants to return the favor. She sits down and thinks trying to find something good. Then it hits her. She smiles and leaps to her feet. She attaches herself to the nearest node and draws forth as much energy as she can contain then she hurls it into the air where it explodes into Hearts the color of purple, blue, red and jade. Then she uses a small amount of energy to form a blue Tiger's eye around NightFire's neck. She mindsends: It is the stone completely of the Earth and is for strength and spiritual alignment. Then Heartsong smiles and goes to find Apache Tear. Apache Tear pops out of the main group and bouces over to NightFire. Then she moves her paws in a series of intricate patterns and on NightFire shoulders lies a cape of sheepskin that changes colors as NighFire moves. Then Apache Tear disappears in a puff of smoke. Wind to thy Wings, Heartsong and Apache Tear ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:38:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Terrae N. Loucks" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Shadowspun's friend Message-ID: Heartsong see the new pet and smiles. then she mind sends with a tint of laughter: Normal is for people who do not read Misty and I think he is kinda cute. Seems to have a mind of his own though like Furball. Apache Tear glares at Heartsong and flexes her claws. Heartsong laughs and says:See what I mean. No respect. Then she looks at the water and notices Apache Tear sitting with the frog and then he jumps on her back and she dances around while he holds on. This makes Heartsong fall over in laughter. I think we have a conspiracy forming Shadowspun, but I do think they have the idea of it. Let's dance everyone. And with that the music begins and Heartsong dances in time with the music and a mist of rainbow colors. Heartsong Apache Tear ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:44:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Terrae N. Loucks" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Message-ID: Heartsong hears the subtle call of the newbie and witha flick of the wrist she palces a blue ora that will not come off until everyone knows that she is a newbie. Then she mindsends: I left the mark on our newbie, someone better soak her like I got. Yvonne, why don't you try out your new bucket. Then Heartsong goes back to dancing and giggles. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:28:22 +0000 From: Rainbow To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: More Storms stuff Message-ID: <4LOc8HAWqhE1IwD0-+AT+-leightons.demon.co.uk> In message , Ambyrglow writes >Ok, now for more questions from the Storms books. .. on page 211 of SW, it >says ". .. no real Empath would serve Falconsbae of his own free will. No >point in trying to force an Empath to serve, either. It's a Gift that can't >be coerced, though Falconsbane certaily tried often enough." What makes >Empathy so different from Mindspeaking or Mage gift in this respect? Earlier >in the book it says "anyone can be broken"; why not Empaths? I get the >feeling I'm missing something here. . . I got the idea it was because they were so attuned to emotion that as coercerion is a TYPE of emotion, then they'd be able to guard against it and know when it was being used, this is IMHO! >Page 285 SW- "And how they had managed to make an ally of that stiff-necked, >parochail bitch Solaris was completly beyond him [Tremane]" Where did Tremane >get this view of Solaris? It seems to imply at least some contact and talks >between the Empire and Karse- when? Is there more than one reason why Solaris >is so antagonistic to Tremane when she confronts him in SR? > I seem to remember Solaris put a truth spell on Tremane, so he can't lie, can't remember where tho', but I seem to remember him talking about it after he breaks free of the Empire, but just before he becomes the Hardornian King... he wouldn't have a good opinion of her in THAT case! Rainbow Unity! 'If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain' ~~~???~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:10:20 -0700 From: Tifalheart-+AT+-webtv.net (April Hunt) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: More Storms stuff Message-ID: <199803202010.MAA05381-+AT+-mailtod-132.iap.bryant.webtv.net> As I recall, If I recall it correctly, Tremane did not get the truth spell cast on him by Solaris until SB, so the reason he thought her a "stiff necked-bitch" in SW is probably more an Imperial veiw on things than anything else... Thank you John for your informative letter, but I have textevd to prove you wrong at least on the Talia part..ahem..here goes! page 80, my copy, AOtQ "but if you thought your Companion spoke to you when he Chose you, you were right. He did. No matter if yu never have more than a touch of a Gift, your Companion will always speak to you in your heart at that moment-even if he never does so again. It wasn't something you dreamed. And if you have the right Gift, one day you'll learn to talk back." Talia breathed an unconscious sigh of relief, not noticing that all the others except Davan were doing the same." So there we have it! Companion Rolan DID talk to Talia...that lovely I Choose you speech I posted earlier...sorry John! ~although the reason he made her forget, is by common acceptance, the fact that she wasn't ready to be Chosen, IMNSHO, if she hadn't been surrounded by Heralds when she found out she probably would have run away...i.e. my statement that she could hardly believe SELANY! the QUEEN, for cripes sake... Heralds are notorious for making people feel comfortable, and believing them...thank the Havens...or else little Talia may have not agreed to stay on~remember how Sherril and Selany and Housekeeper were the deciding factors in her being (not quite sure) that this was the right place for her, but she was going to stay, and she longed to trust (Sherril/Elcarth) but wasn't quite sure if Heralds were as trustworthy as the Books said! Expecially to make an unworthy holderkin farm girl like herself, in her opinion, one of them! April-Jeanne Riverwolf, Disciple of Textevd,Hall of MIST Avatar of Hikaru, Hall of Cephrio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:18:08 PST From: "Kat McKinzie" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: companion's mind speach/Empath's Message-ID: <19980320201810.21251.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> There were other companions who did not have mind speach/very good mindspeach with their chosen:Magic's Promise, HBedition pg.426.; 'Lores looked up, his face twisted and tear-streaked. "I-didn't know. I couldn't-I don't feel anything from Jenna, not really, I-my gift-it's fetching. I don't mindspeak even with her, much-I-told her what to do, but she didn't do it...' You also have to remember, companion's are very stubborn beings, they do what they want to do, remember at one point in TLHM vanyel found out that companions can mind speak whoever they choose, it doesn't have to be their chosen, it's just like the secrets that they keep, maybe Rolan had a reason for not speaking with Talia. Empathy is somewhat harder to control, someone who is evil could not coerce an empath into working with them, because that empath would feel the victim's pain, almost physically, everything that one of the victim's went through, the empath would go through- it would end up dring the empath insane, or they would kill themselves to escape it. wind to thy wings- Kat ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:29:56 -0600 From: jmg300 To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re:not getting the list Message-ID: <199803202043.PAA20300-+AT+-smtp1.erols.com> Fallenangel, I've sent out a request to join and to get the list. I haven't received anything yet. list contact is LadyJ, e-mail addres is jmg300-+AT+-erols.com Thanks. >If you haven't received any response from either me or Carson about the >story lately, please contact one of us. > >If you don't see your name on the list or if your e-mail address is wrong, >please contact me or Carson. > >Thank you, >FallenAngel > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Kathryn Shannon >Lady of OOPS >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/9421 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:54:34 -0800 (PST) From: Javelin To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Babbling Message-ID: <19980320205434.19796.rocketmail-+AT+-send1b.yahoomail.com> >Now for some Misty FAQ's~did you know that E.A. Poe has a short story >called "The Facts of M.Valdemar's Case"? NO? One wonders if this is >something that Misty got the name from or if its something she read and >the name just stuck in her head, without her realizing where it came >from...I do that all the time Just thought I’d add to this, there was also a King of Sweden called Valdemar. These are the two things that block up my search results if I do a ‘Valdemar’ search. Umm, this post has no real reason except I have changed Email addresses and want to make sure it works. And of course adding that little snippit above*G*. Wind beneath your wings Javelin Knight of Fluff _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:34:21 -0000 From: "FallenAngel" To: Subject: Movies/History/Rolan Choosing Talia Message-ID: <003201bd5426$6cb47c60$c47d1b26-+AT+-skkohnkedelta.edu> Shadowblade wrote: Yes! Only mine is so much more weird. You know "Titanic"? Well there was this part when a man was jumping off the sinking ship and hit the propeller and boinked into the sea? Then the ship fell on him? yeah, I laughed to myself there. It was just so funny. (And Jack's death scene too, I mean shouldn't he try to tread water more to keep heat in his body?) Exactly! I was giggling to myself when that guy bounced. Quietly. My boyfriend went with me and I didn't want to give him TOO bad of an impression of me! *grins* I was wondering why Jack didn't climb up on some other piece of the ship. There were a couple floating not to far from Kate Winslet. (can't remember her movie name) But then I thought that they acted pretty stupid in the movie Romeo and Juliet, too. I mean, she was going to run away with him anyway - why didn't she just go? her father would have disowned her and that would have been the end of it. Don't get me wrong - I like these movies, it's just the actors. *smile* My friends and I sat in the back of the theater and laughed all the way through my favorite movies, Star Wars Trilogy. It was great. Shadowspun & Hobgood wrote: It's Disney, what can I say? I just didn't like anything else but the animals and Mother Willow. I know what you mean. I mean, I love Greek History and have studied it (I wouldn't go so far as to say in depth, but close). Then I watched Hecules. Through the whole movie, I swear, I was in agony. They were SO FAR from the legend that it wasn't even funny. To Anna, Muranog, and April, and John E. Morris for their answers about Rolan making Taila forget: Thanks, it helps to have some idea, but it STILL doesn't really make sense! I mean, even other times (I seem to remember some text from one of the MPawn trilogy) when Companions Chose youngsters from out-country (for Example) they knew nothing about Heralds, and yet the Companion didn't make them forget. I do have to admit that Talia probably would have run away, thinking herself not worthy, but then again, she dreamed about being Chosen, so she might not have.*wandering off to bang her head into the wall* I can't STAND things that are illogical!!! Thanks, FallenAngel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:55:09 -0500 (EST) From: andifairy-+AT+-mindless.com To: Misty Subject: small Story, stuff Message-ID: <199803202255.RAA06969-+AT+-web02.globecomm.net> Heylas guys! ~~~~~~~~ Etain accepts the towels from Jeanne Riverwolf gratefully. She wasn't soaked or pounced when she was a newbie, so she supposes she is on the list...:) She wanders around reintroducing herself and meeting the newbies, generally getting into the relaxing nature of the Hall. 'Ahhhh...", she sighs, 'It's good to be back among friends." She wanders about a bit longer watching the gypsy dance with interest. "Gypsy dances are so wonderful! I wish I could see more of them!" Suddenly hungry, she extends her silver wings, flicks them slightly, and a container of fresh hummus and wheat pita appear in her hand. "Hummus and Pita, anyone?" she offers. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :) :) Actually the Talia/Rolan thing always troubeled my mind, but I always had the impression that the Holderkin saw the Companions as Demons or such, and even though Talia was desperate to escape, would she go with an animal she had been brought up to fear? But then again she idolized the Heralds and wanted to be one... I'm just full of contridictions today... Someone (I forget who and I have to delete all my old mail) commented that the books after LHM were less developed. I agree. With Arrows and LHM the books are focused on one character, or one character and a minor character directly related (not that Stephen is a minor character... you know what I mean). I really knew Van and Talia really well. With all the others the focus is on two different characters (or more) and the story jumps in between. I found myself reading about Elspeth, and then just before something REALLY exciting happend, it would swich to Darkwind. That was sort of annoying and confusing. Now, I love all the books, but the two series I read most are Arrows and LHM. I own most, and yet I reread those the most. I think that says something... I'm really attached to Talia and Van, both are going to college with me... :) Well, that's all for today... ~Andi Etain Seaward Knight of Fluff Silly-Type-Person Member of the Mistic Circle Located in the Hall of Mist --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:51:46 -0800 (PST) From: Ana Cotton To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: dual names, ObMisty Message-ID: <19980320225146.23700.rocketmail-+AT+-web1.rocketmail.com> Anna wrote: >I've also noticed that there is another Ana who posts here. > Would it be to confusing if I post as Anna too? >>> Nahh, we would know who we were! > Should I go by another name? >>> Unless people claim it gets tooo confusing, but we're all intelligent people, I don't think that'll happen... At least there are only 2 right now... We could have 3 or 4, like another list I'm on ('cept it's Beckys there). > I really hope this question doesn't sound as stupid as it sounds to >me, they _are_ spelt differently. >> *shrug* wasn't stupid. And they are spelt differently. And hey, if it gets *really* confusing, I'll start posting as Lyssa, and that should take care of it. (unless there are some more Lyssa's on this list..) Oh, and Welcome to the list! ---------------------------------------------- ObMisty: Someone mentioned not liking Winds as much as the others. Personally I liked Elspeth, so I loved Winds. I didn't think Storms was up to Misty's standard. And I will always love Van best of all. :) As for the music-I like it. But then I like just about everything, and have no taste whatsoever (or so I've been told ;>). My fave is the Shadowstalker songs, with the 2 HHH and LLL right behind it. Anyone think it would be intersting to at least have a short story with Quentin in it? Maybe on the school. (Quentin was Kero's company mage in BTS, he started a mage school, at Bolthaven) I always liked Quentin, so I could enjoy this. On a slightly different subject: what about a book makes you read it? do you like it if it has normal day to day routines in it? Does it have to have a lot of adventure, fights, etc.? I'm curious, 'cause sometimes I'll love reading about normal everyday occurances. === Hugs, Ana, proud Knight of Fluff. Listee for JC Jointly owned subsidary of a dog, and her sister's cat who thinks crawling all over her aunt is the way to read any list. "Is there room in your life, for one more trip to the moon?"--The Cure,'Wrong Number' "We danced in the graveyard with vampires till dawn."- -Tori Amos, 'Little Earthquakes' http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/6573 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:49:36 -0700 From: Tifalheart-+AT+-webtv.net (April Hunt) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Rolan Choosing Talia Message-ID: <199803202349.PAA22859-+AT+-mailtod-131.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Sorry , FallenAngel, but as we all know, this was Misty's first Heralds of Valdemar book...so there are obviously a few bugs in the system....although I feel that Heralds Chosen out of the country would have needed the extra bits of information, as not living in Valdemar, they would have not known where to go and needed to get there as quickly as possible (see:Alberich) Talia was another case altogether, not only was she unknowing of Companion's Choice(which admittedly the out of Kingdom Chosen may have not known either) and her insecurities...Also there is a pattern for out-Kingdom Choosing...it seems that the Chosen themselves have to be in mortal danger to be found by a Companion and rescued, as it turns to Valdemar's advantage! Talia was not in any immediate physical or mental danger, but Alberich and(what's that kid's name from MPromise? Tashir?)were, and in both cases it proved to be for the definate advantage of Valdemar-Alberich later thwarts the assasination attempt on Selany, becomes the weaponsmaster of the Collegium, and introduces Talia to Solaris, thereby cementing an alliance to thwart the Hardorn/Empire/what's left of Hardorn after Elspeth pays Ancar a visit, and then because of that alliance, they gain an ally inSPOILER(iftel) and in Tashir's case, his lands become part of Valdemar in a time when they are very needed...also um, Neave was Chosen out Kingdom at a time when he was contemplating murder/suicide and he was going through great amounts of physical and mental abuse and HIS abilities showed Talia her true ability, Empathy(and he may have become an integral part of the Heralds, with his rare and weird ability in the Gift of Progection)which without Talia, all the good (and bad) stuff in QO and Winds trilogies would possibly not have happened...Anyway, that just goes to show that Companions have certain rules for Choosing OutKingdom~Savyil couldnt Choose Kerowyn until she showed up in Valdemar because she really wasnt about to be killed...but the instan Kero shows up in Valdemar...bammm! And Daren too! Ahem, anyway, what do you think of that ? I think I am right, but I could possibly be wrong..somebody find a Herald Chosen Out-Kingdom that wasnt in grave danger and didnt later do a great service to Valdemar and I'll show you a furiously blushing face! Who has had the Ring thus far? I know Niki and Typodragon did, but who else has had it? Current bearer is of course, our Troll-Adept, but I know I forgot at least two of the Bearers...oh dear...what's the URL for the story again? I'll just have to go read it...again... April-Jeanne Riverwolf, Disciple of Textevd,Hall of MIST Avatar of Hikaru, Hall of Cephrio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:11:55 -0700 From: Tifalheart-+AT+-webtv.net (April Hunt) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: fluff-+AT+-}~~~~',~~~~~~~~~{-+AT+- Message-ID: <199803210011.QAA29059-+AT+-mailtod-131.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Jeanne Riverwolf stops dancing long enough to collect the gifts of Heartsong and her Apache Tear, giving her a thoughtful :Thank you!: She says :Your'e Welcome: to StarFire and Etain, watching with wide green eyes at the fairie who is much larger than her friend Jareth's Dese bond, Cheylasa. :Hummus and Pita! Yum I am starved! You know what would go good with this?: She asked, conjuring up Mozarrella cheese with tomato slice snacks. : Yummy yum yum!: She looked warily at both Etain and StarFire, noticing that both had Black Hair and Green Eyes...:hmmm...maybe I ought to change my coloring again?: she wondered. With another wave of her hand, she promptly turned her hair a subdued purple and her eyes back to a silvery color. :There, now we won't have everyone in the Halls calling us The Triplets or some other such nonsence!: Clover came up behind her, demanding some of that lovely snack her mistress was eating, and Jeanne could not deny her beloved yellow sheep the taste of tomato-cheese-pita-hummus all in one bite...Clover ate her snack contentedly, presenting all of the feasters with a dessert of fresh clovers. Four leaf clovers. Jeanne said:Thank you silly sheep:and promptly devoured the clovers. They were absolutely delicious! Pulling her trademark quarterstaff weapon out of thin air, she used it as a walking stick to get her now-stuffed body to a lounging couch located in an isolated corner of the hall, so that she could think of what she should do next. "HMMMmmm maybe I should open a magical portal into the next dimensions and pull through my promised guests, besides, They are so much more fun than Usagi-chan" Usagi: I heard that! Jeanne(thinking):UH-OH! Sailor Moon: Moon Crystal Power! (Jeanne hides behind couch) Mars:Hey, where did she go! Ive got a score to settle with that sheep-loving maniac! Sailor Moon: Wahhhhh!!!! I want to go home! (She promptly disappears) Sailor Mars: Hey, Where'd Usagi go! I want to go home too! Wahhhhhh!!!!! (She also promptly disappears) (Jeanne comes out of hiding, with a big sweatdrop on her face, Super-D style) Jeanne:Next time it is going to be RPG characters, for sure...They should be easier to control than those anime girls...hyper they are! Aerith: WHAT!!!!! Tifa: WHAT!!!! Yufi:WHAAAAAAATTTT!!!!!! (Jeanne goes back to hiding) Jeanne(whispering):looks like I spoke too soon. April-Jeanne Riverwolf, Disciple of Textevd,Hall of MIST Avatar of Hikaru, Hall of Cephrio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:32:16 -0400 From: Anna To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: My first braid :) Message-ID: <35130A90.4CB644AA-+AT+-nbnet.nb.ca> I think I've gotten all of the water rung out my clothes. Duck shaped towel? Isn't that what I was supposed to do? Duck? Thank-you Ambyrglow for the greeting. Cheese-cake sheep for all.... I heard today that sheep represent love, interesting how it is passed around so much here. Hmmm, how do I go about presenting myself to the group? My first introduction to Misty was as a Christmas gift from my brother, (the sweet boy). He gave me _Arrows Flight_. Funny though, I didn't like the cover so I left it to last. I hate to admit it, but I did learn my lesson. "Never judge a book by its cover." My favourite trilogy is The Last Herald Mage. I'm reading it again as I type. This time though, I started to cry way before way before the "incident" in the first book and did not stop until Vanyel got to the Vale. I'm such a baby. Of course, The Heralds of Valdemar comes in a close second. Actually, I just ordered them from my book club. Yeah, hardcover...... Ana Cotton wrote: > And hey, if it gets *really* confusing, I'll start posting as Lyssa, > and that should take care of it. (unless there are some more Lyssa's > on this list..) That funny you suggest Lyssa. I was going to suggestthat I could post as Liza, as my first name is really Anna-Liza. That is almost close enough to be a coincident. BTW: If someone switched, it should probably be me as I am the newbie. The Rolan/Talia thing.. Yeah, I guess I was wrong. When I read that part, I just assumed he was making her fall asleep. Then when she woke-up, she was just confused..... My friend in army once told me that they cannot be help responsible for anything they say when they are just woken up. Guess I thought this sort of thing was happening again. Since I plan to read the books again, I'll have to keep my eyes open. Quentin... I always liked Quentin to. I think it was him. :) I don't have the books with me right now. Was he the one with the red hair? You can probably guess I liked the Marion Zimmer Bradley books for the same reason. I have red hair. Now, I like her books for other reasons too, but having a red-headed hero who is not Anne of Green Gables is sooo refreshing. I have to agree about the books after the LHM. I think I could have liked Elspeth more if they just focused on her more. I know I loved Skan in the BG but thought the last one, the SG, was lacking, like a contract had to be filled or something... Well, I should go. Let me know if I can add anything so everyone can know who I am.... Wind to thy Wings & Blessed Be! -- hard-core lurker anna The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but rather, 'hmm.... that's funny...' - Isaac Asimov ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:47:19 EST From: Kago23618 To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: More Storms stuff/Movies/History/Chosing Talia/ObMisty Message-ID: Hiya Folks, Just had some stuff I decided to respond to before I go back to lurking :) >~although the reason he made her forget, is by common acceptance, the >fact that she wasn't ready to be Chosen, IMNSHO, if she hadn't been >surrounded by Heralds when she found out she probably would have run >away...i.e. my statement that she could hardly believe SELANY! the >QUEEN, for cripes sake... Someone did tell Talia that she was chosen before she got to Haven, although it evidently didn't have a big effect on her. (Here comes the Textevd) on page 34 (of my book, it's this wierd compilation of the arrows of the queen series called "Queens Own") of "Arrows of the Queen" a guard in the town after SweetSprings ( I can't find a name) says: "Totally forgets that you may be Chosen, but you're also just a chile. And you're no better, Rolan" she added over her shoulder. "Men!" - -------- >>Ok, now for more questions from the Storms books. .. on page 211 of SW, it >>says ". .. no real Empath would serve Falconsbae of his own free will. No >>point in trying to force an Empath to serve, either. It's a Gift that can't >>be coerced, though Falconsbane certaily tried often enough." What makes >>Empathy so different from Mindspeaking or Mage gift in this respect? Earlier >>in the book it says "anyone can be broken"; why not Empaths? I get the >>feeling I'm missing something here. . . >I got the idea it was because they were so attuned to emotion that as >coercerion is a TYPE of emotion, then they'd be able to guard against it >and know when it was being used, this is IMHO! I don't know if I'd call coercion a *type* of emotion, but definatly dependant on them, making someone feel trust, etc... but I agree with your comment about being intuned... the empath would probably have a better idea about what was theirs and what wasn't. this is also IMHO :) -------- I thought I was the only person that laughed at the guy bouncing off the propeller! I'm glad to know I'm not a sick-o *snicker* As for Jack treading water... would that have really helped? I mean they said it was afew degrees above freezing, and assuming that by treading water he could somehow keep himself warm *&* heat the water in the immediate vincinity, he'd still be moving the water around so he'd freeze to death... ya know? He *should* have climbed onto another piece of wood, but that wouldn't have been dramatic About Romeo & Julliette, it was a whole different time, They might have been able to live without their parents blessing, but I don't think so. Oh well... 'twas the way good ol' Willy wrote it. ;) ----------- >ObMisty: Someone mentioned not liking Winds as much as the others. >Personally I liked Elspeth, so I loved Winds. I didn't think Storms >was up to Misty's standard. And I will always love Van best of all. :) I agree, I loved LHM, even if the people that live near me & I talk to hated it. So there I liked Storms though.... that brings up a question.. why is it that almost every civilization that one incounters in fantasy books has lost the great magics (and/or Technology)? The Aes Sadai of Robert Jordan, the Bard people of Misty's Free Bards series, The "Dark Sword" of Weis & Hickman... the list goes on... It seems to me that it might be interesting to be *at* the age of legends (well maybe a little after, right at the inception of the war of shadow when they *had* all those abilities). As for the story with Quentin in it, what about a book telling everything from Quentin's Prospective, might be intersting. They did mention Quentin in one of the Stories in "Sword of Ice" but nothing more than a passing thing. I think he's ready for stardom... anyone else? Someone mentioned a map. I like that idea as well, would it just be a map or an atlas like the "Atlas of the Dragon Lance World". I know if it was an Atlas I'd buy it. (Cheezl looks around & notices how much he's been talking and slowly backs into the shadows from whence he came, blushing the entire time) :) ------------ Cheezlbub of Undernet at your service! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:21:54 EST From: shadowspun-+AT+-juno.com (Heather A Tomlinson) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Quenten/real or no?/reincarnation/Storms Message-ID: <19980320.192027.6375.1.shadowspun-+AT+-juno.com> Ana wrote: >Anyone think it would be intersting to at least have a short story >with Quentin in it? Maybe on the school. (Quentin was Kero's company >mage in BTS, he started a mage school, at Bolthaven) > I always liked Quentin, so I could enjoy this. Read Sword of Ice _The School up the HIll_. Has a story w/Quenten in it. Pretty cute story. Here's a question, are we taking the stories in SofI as true to the world? What I mean is, are we accepting these stories as actrually having happened in Velgarth's real life? Some of them were written with Misty, so I assume they are, but about the others? Someone mentioned there were rules for reincarnation. Don't remember who. If you can, please give me a breakdown and where you got them from. I only know what *sounds* right/logical to me. Haven't read any books on it. -Storms spoiler, sort of- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I really liked Karal. He was so unsure of himself, it was rather endearing. I will admit that he could have used a little more spine, but he has plenty of time to get one. After all, he will be stuck around Kero and Natoli for the rest of his life. If they can't do it, noone can. But I like her characters not always perfectly confident of everything. There is some reflection of real-life there. IMO (I'm rarely humble), no adolescents/young adults are entirely sure of themselves unless they're utterly nuts. Or at least obsessed with something. I also liked that Van, Stef and 'Fandes finally got a vacation. I didn't like seeing them go, but let's face it. They were stuck in the Forest for about 600 years. Surely they needed a break. I imagine we'll see them again, though. (Please, please, please?) Maybe even Need will be back. Wouldn't that be cool? I wonder what she'd want to come back as, though. You know, if she and Savil were both human at the same time, they'd either be bitter enemies or best friends. That would be a fight to see, wouldn't it? Shadowspun & Hobgood *****A book is the only place in which you can examine a fragile thought without breaking it, or explore an explosive idea without fear it will go off in your face..."--Edward P. Morgan***** _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:31:37 -0600 From: katiekins2-+AT+-juno.com (Katie Snyder) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: braid / Hall of Mist Message-ID: <19980320.193250.6462.0.katiekins2-+AT+-juno.com> On the Talia / Rolan mindspeach thing: Talia did Mindspeak with Rolan when she was Chosen, and it states rather clearly somewhere else (yes, I know I should have textevd for this, but I'm somewhat busy, and so I'm not going to look it up just now) that Talia *can* Mindspeak with Rolan, but she can only do so in deep trance. This doesn't explain why Rolan made Talia forget being Chosen, but I tend to agree with others that she would have been scared off . . . ***************************************************************************************** >>Shadowspun & Hobgood wrote: >>It's Disney, what can I say? I just didn't like anything else but the >>animals and Mother Willow. >FallenAngel replied: > I know what you mean. I mean, I love Greek History and have studied it >(I wouldn't go so far as to say in depth, but close). Then I watched >Hecules. Through the whole movie, I swear, I was in agony. They were SO FAR >from the legend that it wasn't even funny. I agree with the sentiments about not following the actual stories, etc., but I still can't help liking Disney. They didn't ever claim that they were following the storylines . . . And although I was somewhat annoyed by the Hercules legend being butchered, it is geared to little kids, and I realized they couldn't say that Zeus slept around a lot, and Hercules was always being hunted because Hera hated him because he was Zeus' bastard son . . . I don't think many parents would have been happy . ****************************************************************************************** Etain said: >Someone (I forget who and I have to delete all my old mail) commented that the >books after LHM were less developed. I agree. I agree as well. I *do* really like all the books, but I must say I was so much more attatched to Talia and Van, and Kero as well. I feel what they're going through, and I can relate to them . . . ****************************************************************************************** Ana said: >Anyone think it would be intersting to at least have a short story >with Quentin in it? I think that would be interesting. I think that Quenten/White Winds/other mages Kero's related to would be interesting to hear more about . . . ****************************************************************************************** Well, I never oficially introduced myself in the Hall, and since Spring Break just started, I thought I'd make up for lost time . . . As the gypsy music begins, a girl on the edge of the Hall looks up from the book she's reading in confusion. :Looks like I've been out of it for a while again. But this looks like fun: With a grin, she jumps up and joins in the dance. -Katie _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:16:11 GMT From: fenris-+AT+-ptdprolog.net (Taynar Fenrir) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Delurking into the Hall Message-ID: <199803210316.DAA24860-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> >As the gypsy music begins, a girl on the edge of the Hall looks up from >the book she's reading in confusion. >:Looks like I've been out of it for a while again. But this looks like >fun: >With a grin, she jumps up and joins in the dance. > >From a dark corner of the mist a tall person slowly steps into the light. He is wearing simple clothes with a green hooded cape covering his features. "I am Taynar Fenrir", he says with a simple smile and bow, " and these are the twins, Beltain and Samhain." >From the mist two wolves step forward and bow thier heads to one and all. Picking a spot where he can observe the dance and music Taynar sits whith each hand carefully stroking his two companions. Taynar Fenrir I "If it wasn't for reality we wouldn't fenris-+AT+-ptdprolog.net I be needing all this fantasy." ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1529 **********************************