MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1551 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Hummus/small fluff/RJ/Myth by ANDI ODDGEIRR 2) re-greets, questions, and fluffy stuff by Cymrey 3) Wheel of Time/Revenge on the Fallen One! *mostly fluff* by Divine Knight Ámp 4) Good-bye by "Chris Goldbach" 5) Re: Alberich/ by "Jennifer Powell" 6) Re: one very important thing...kinda fluffy / obmisty by katiekins2-+AT+-juno.com (Katie Snyder) 7) Re: truth spell/marriage pledge/unsung heroes by GodesCarla 8) Jinx High by "Eve Peters-Campbell" 9) Re: Other authors by XcGRRLxc 10) Re: Hummus/small fluff/RJ/Myth by XcGRRLxc 11) Re: Jinx High; Fluff by Amanda Carlston 12) High Horse. :) by Darvoso 13) JD fluffiness by "Nelson Greenslade" 14) Re: Other Authors by Nvrtrngbk 15) Greetings to all.... by SirSlvrWnd 16) Re: Other authors by Malkavia Enterprises 17) Re: Jinx High by "Raven Darkblade" 18) Correction by "Raven Darkblade" 19) Re: wheel of time by "John E Morris" 20) Re: Greetings to all.... by "Brooke Polson" 21) Re: wheel of time by "Brooke Polson" 22) First fluff by "Brooke Polson" 23) misty by "Nelson Greenslade" 24) Pooka by LCM46 25) by "Heartsong/Hellcat " 26) braid: valdemar/america; used books;other by Niki Nibbe 27) list of people by lady_fire-eyes-+AT+-juno.com (Sorsha T Al'Lindre) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:49:47 From: ANDI ODDGEIRR To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Hummus/small fluff/RJ/Myth Message-ID: <19980408204948.15731.qmail-+AT+-www06.netaddress.usa.net> Heyla! ~~~Small Fluff~~~ Etain jumps off of her couch and shouts: "IT'S DONE!!! MY STUPID PROGRAM IS DONE AND HANDED IN! YAY!" She starts running around the room jumping for joy, and stops long enough to give some Hummus and stuff to Jeanne. "Here ya go!" Suddenly tired from all her exertions, she goes to take a nap on the extra-large heated waterbed next to the jacuzzi. "Now I can finally sleep!" The last thought she has before drifting off to sleep is :'Hmm... I've been lonely lately. Maybe I need a mindmate. Perhaps a pookah? Hmmm... But how would a pookah find it's way into the halls of Mist....' ~~~end small Fluff~~~ I love Irish myth (as I am sure most of us do), in fact that's what I eventually want to teach. :> My favorite thing was always the cauldron of the Dagdah, you know, the one that was never empty? Heh heh... I think we need one of those in here! Well, I am working on becoming a member of QO, if I ever get the stuff done ::sigh:: but with being a member of the MisticCircle and two other Weyrs besides, plus all my homework It's goin kinda slow. :> (this doesn't fall under the fan-fic no-no does it? I didn't think so..:>) If any of you AOLers are on here, it has a great QO division called Arrows on Line... :) ::sigh:: If anyone knows of a Robert Jordan Support group, let me know? I own all but the last book... :> I have this problem, I read books from the library, then I buy them if I like them... It's a serious problem, and I'm trying to get help... :> Fluffy pitas, fuzzy sheep, sweet rain, green lilypads, and creamy chocolate to everyone! ~Andi Etain Seaward Knight of Fluff Member of the OUH, Devotee of Wren and Savil Member of the Mistic Circle Keeper of Hummus~~"Hummus, anyone?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A singer of these ageless times, With Kitchen prose and gutter rhymes." ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:05:45 EDT From: Cymrey To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: re-greets, questions, and fluffy stuff Message-ID: <51167d74.352be6ab-+AT+-aol.com> Heyla, I introduced myself some time ago, but haven't had the time to write an messages. So I thought I would do so now: ~~~Fluffy stuff~~~ Cymrey wanders about in the Mist catching snippets of conversation now and then. Her head, however, begins to ache after hearing mentions of unicorns and felines and dragons and Gods/Goddesses. Her familiar, a small white finch bird named Raven, nestled quietly in her hair and grumbled in her sleep. Cymrey shook her head and smiled lightly. ~~~End fluffy stuff~~~ hehe, not to good at fluffy stuff yet. On to the questions: I gotta ask, What is the friendship ring? I've only seen one post of it and it looks pretty cool. 'Nother one: How do you get a bondbird? Raven is only my familiar and I dont think she'll get jealous if I have a bondbird. Also: On the Kethry in Valdemar thing~~ I think the reason she was only slightly bothered by crossing the border is that the borders had changed so much from the time that the watcher spell had been set that it was having trouble. I seem to remember someone saying something like that in the Storms books. (dont happen to have my books right now) Well, that's just my .02 (And not very well organized .02 at that!) Thanks fer listenin' to my ramblings! Zhai'helluva, Cymrey Member of the Order of Unsung Heros (Vree! He's so cool, for a bird...) Members of the Wizards guild ~~~AND~~~ Follower of Davar, Immortal of Magic (Sorry if the last two dont make any sense, but its in my scripty thing for other emails.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:19:19 -0700 From: Divine Knight Ámp To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Wheel of Time/Revenge on the Fallen One! *mostly fluff* Message-ID: <352C05F7.342B-+AT+-bscn.com> Yeah, The Wheel of Time is great...I borrowed 1-7 from my aunt and was like "7 books, from 500-something to 900-something pages?!?!?!?!?" and fainted. *LOL* Not every day you find that large a series of good books. Anyone else here really HATE Nynaeve? *gryn* Annoying little crud... <<>> *Ámp glares at the back of Fallenangel* I've TOLD you, keep that...THING...under control...*hysterical Kekfa-esque giggle* Now I'm gonna have to do something bad, I'm afraid...*pulls out a small silver bell and starts ringing it* CID! ATTACK! ... ...*several moments pass* ... Crud...where did he go now...*wanders around the Hall looking for his wyrsa familiar, finally finding him passed out on his back, surrounded by several empty bottles of Jack Daniels* Gods, I TOLD you to keep out of the liqour cabinet! Useless best... *Cid burps and stays passed out* Ah, well...*scowls at FAngel, who's about to bust a gut laughing* Go on, laugh while ya can, missy....you'll get your's...heh heh >;)~ <<>> Now that I look back over it, this post has a lot to do with nothing, and for that I apologize...*peanut butter sheep and downhome punches to whoever wants 'em* I'll try and do better next time. Walk in the Light, now.. ~Ámp Former Acolyte of Music and Song Official Member of the "I Hate Algus" Club Magitek Knight The Almighty Mystic of Food Giant ~And his familiar, Cid the drunken wyrsa~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:40:47 PDT From: "Chris Goldbach" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Good-bye Message-ID: <19980408214047.8025.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Heyla listsibs, I am sorry to say that Safa and I must depart from all of your lovely company because it is getting to be to hard to keep up with the list. I really need to get my own computer but until that happenes or until I have more time and more access I am afraid that I must leave but only for a short time for we will be back but until then it has been an utmost pleasure!! Safa sends tendrils of sadness. I will be on later in the following months. Wind to thy wings Chris and Safa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:16:12 -0400 From: "Jennifer Powell" To: Subject: Re: Alberich/ Message-ID: <01bd6333$8ef5d780$e3a3f0c7-+AT+-accounting.apexcorp.com> >>There is a story about Alberich. It is a short story. I THINK it is >>in >>one of Marrion Zimmer Bradley's compilations. I've read part of it. >>It is >>good. It is actually in a book of short stories about horses, called "Horse Fantastic" Thought you'd like to know ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:06:41 -0500 From: katiekins2-+AT+-juno.com (Katie Snyder) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: one very important thing...kinda fluffy / obmisty Message-ID: <19980408.171254.4310.3.katiekins2-+AT+-juno.com> On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:08:36 +0100 (BST) XcGRRLxc writes: >I think eternal randomity is key to the success of any fantasy writer. Where >else do you suppose they get their ideas? In any case...one excellent book >for any fantasy fan is The Blue Sword buy Robin McKinley. I also want to know >if any of you are suffering throuhg the wheel of time series (as I am) and if >you would like to form a support group (no, jk, but what do you think of it?). >However, I must fly for tis past my bedtime... >Sandania Hessan I agree on all counts. I just re-read The Blue Sword yesterday (for the I-don't-know-how-many-th time ), and re-read The Hero and the Crown two days before that. I love them both. I also enjoyed McKinley's books Beauty and Deerskin. I also read Robert Jordan. I love his books, because I think he creates the world better than just about anybody (especially the history part -- it seems like the world has existed for a long time, that the more recent history is present in everyones' minds, and the distant history is faded and has turned into legends -- just like Earth). I must say, though, that it's getting very long. I re-read the whole series in December, but it's only the second time, because there's just so much to read! But I can't seem to stop, either . . . ObMisty -- AH! I asked all my questions already! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . AH! Here's one. Does anyone know how Jedren got the land that he moved Keth's White Winds school onto? I think it might say in BTS, but I don't remember . . . -Katie Co-Leader of the OoUH _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:46:48 EDT From: GodesCarla To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: truth spell/marriage pledge/unsung heroes Message-ID: <2ad44082.352c0c6a-+AT+-aol.com> ShadowWolf said: << Here's my personal theory. Heralds without mage ability can only cast stage one of the truth spell. Heralds with mage ability can cast both stages. Anyone care to search for Textevd? >> I am sure that ANY Herald can work a first-stage truth spell. I would provide textevd, but Rainbow has already done so. I am also sure that only those with communication gifts can work the second stage (as Rainbow had guessed). I cannot seem to findthe textevd for this, but I am very sure that it's true, so I just wanted to confirm what Rainbow had already put forth. Does anyone else (of school age, esp., but really of any age) just long for a school like the Collegium? It is my dream school to a T: small classes, mature students, and no "Do we have to's?" Also, the atmosphere of a truly caring environment and teachers who, after the class is over, become friends? Too bad there's nothing like it (at least, that I know of). Cymrey said: <> The Friendship Ring was created by Cennydd, the Mage of Green Silences. It is three connected rings of gold, silver, and platinum, and is passed on from member to member each Friday. When a former ring-bearer passes it on, three rings in the image of the Ring appear on the former bearer's hand. Vrondi wrote: <> Go Tiger Balm! I love that stuff! Have you tried Arnica? That's what I keep in my dance bag. Zhai'helleva, Autumnwing, a.k.a. Carla Councilor of Mist GodesCarla-+AT+-aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 18:29:23 PDT From: "Eve Peters-Campbell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Jinx High Message-ID: <19980409012923.1265.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> *Alestra glances about and gasps as she sees everyone speaking at once- sometimes a half dozen things at once, too. Nothin' like being confined to your room for a week due to catching a nasty little virus like chicken pox to make a WHOLE LOT add up.... Folks, I do apologize, but I'm just going to erase all but the most recent of these... It's just too much for me to think about taking on...* Anyway, what I do have a comment about is the Tannim/Jinx high thing. I, too, loved that, except for one leetle thing... Tannim later on says that his first contact with magic was a duel between a witch and a sorceress, the witch being the good gal- so right,this sounds like it fits the bill, and how often can something like that really happen in a relatively small town? So this is prolly his first contact with magic... but he also says at one point that the dragon (fergetting the name- apologies (Clinthliss???)) gave him the name Tannim. So- that's my only complaint, that he prolly shouldn't have had the name yet. But oh well. I loved the book, I loved the fact that he was in it, so I'm not complaining:). Speaking of which- did anybody notice in the Knight of Ghosts and Shadows books that Misty herself showed up? The group of Oklahoma folks who met Eric playing on the street? I thought that was way cool. Anyway, gotta go! *waves and disappears.* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:59:00 EDT From: XcGRRLxc To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Other authors Message-ID: <7033955c.352c2b67-+AT+-aol.com> hey I actually know what a pooka is. isn't it a blue spotted horse like creature from Irish folk tales? pookas are coooool!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:01:59 EDT From: XcGRRLxc To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hummus/small fluff/RJ/Myth Message-ID: <638f4cdd.352c2c1b-+AT+-aol.com> the 7th book is out in soft cover, you can get it at barnes and noble...overcome you subconcious blocks, you can do it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:33:33 -0500 From: Amanda Carlston To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Jinx High; Fluff Message-ID: <199804090233.VAA94208-+AT+-gomer.wiscnet.net> >Anyway, what I do have a comment about is the Tannim/Jinx high thing. >I, too, loved that, except for one leetle thing... Tannim later on says >that his first contact with magic was a duel between a witch and a >sorceress, the witch being the good gal- so right,this sounds like it >fits the bill, and how often can something like that really happen in a >relatively small town? So this is prolly his first contact with >magic... but he also says at one point that the dragon (fergetting the >name- apologies (Clinthliss???)) gave him the name Tannim. So- that's >my only complaint, that he prolly shouldn't have had the name yet. But >oh well. I loved the book, I loved the fact that he was in it, so I'm >not complaining:). Okay, okay...You've pulled me out of hiding. Had to come out soon anyway. First of all, I have never read this book. However, my friend Rillian has, and I've seen the section that they talk about this in. It doesn't mention Tannim's name at all. It just talks about this guy with bright green eyes who asked Diana to dance at the school dance. It was after this that he talked to Chinthliss, and found out that Chinthliss was a real dragon. Too much magic for one night, methinks. And the name Tannim means 'Son of Dragons'...it's a dual play on names. His original last name was Drake, which is a name for a dragon, and he was also like Chinthliss' foster son. It is unknown how long he has had the name Tannim, but it is the only name that he goes by. Even his parents call him Tannim. It would be interesting to find out what his real name is, tho. >Speaking of which- did anybody notice in the Knight of Ghosts and >Shadows books that Misty herself showed up? The group of Oklahoma folks >who met Eric playing on the street? I thought that was way cool. *doh* Okay, I didn't notice this until you mentioned it. Then I went diving for my rather well-worn copy of KoG&S to see if it was true, and low and behold, there she is! *blush* Shows how much attention I've been paying, huh? FLUFF ALERT!!!! =============================================== Several screaming warriors riding chocolate-colored sheep ride into the Halls of Mist. This probably wouldn't be too interesting, except they are all about 6 inches high, and are being followed by a screaming Ashandra. She is now wearing the blue/green robes of a priestess of the Goddess of Elves, and her strawberry blonde hair is going all over the place as she tries to catch up with the brownies. Finally she gives up, collapsing in a chair. She grins at her listsibs and shouts 'Try to stay out of their way. I don't think they are really dangerous, but those spears and weapons are sharp!' She rubs her wrist where she got poked by one. She sighs as she hears something crash to the floor and mutters to herself 'PLEASE let them run out of steam soon...' =============================================== Laters! Ashandra Priestess of the Goddess of Elves Member of the Order of Unsung Heros [Kris, Dirk, Terenil, FX] _____ ____ _____ / ____|/ __ \ / ____| Please help bring all 200 episodes of Sailor | (___ | | | | (___ Moon + the Movies to America by visiting: \___ \| | | |\___ \ ============================================ ____) | |__| |____) | http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/sos/ |____ave\____ur___ailors!============================================ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:26:06 -0500 From: Darvoso To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: High Horse. :) Message-ID: <352C31BE.9C10FBC7-+AT+-fortwayne.infi.net> *galloping away* > On the Kethry in Valdemar thing~~ I think the reason she was only slightly > bothered by crossing the border is that the borders had changed so much from > the time that the watcher spell had been set that it was having trouble. I > seem to remember someone saying something like that in the Storms books. (dont > happen to have my books right now) When did Keth go into Valdemar?!? They were at the border once, but they never went in, if she would have the Vrondi would have driven her *nuts* The protections didn't start failing until after Ancar brutally beat them down, and really, they wouldn't have 'died' perse, as it wasn't a barrier, so much as a very specific coercion spell, with the vrondi using the node under haven as 'food', until Van took them down, or the energy was all gone, which was what was happening [1,000 years will drain any good node :)], but *that* problem was solved by the energy transfer of Firesong's Proto-Gate to Haven's lil heartstone. The only reason that Van and 'Fandes took down the protections is that mages were needed *so* badly, not so much for Ancar, although that played a large part in it, but for the enroaching Mage-Storms. :):) <> I do beilive it was a royal grant of some sort or another, although I'm not as sure as that as I am on my previous statement. :) Okay, coming down from *my* high horse...:)... Winternight A Member of the Order of Unsung heroes (Urtho! Lashan {Need!}) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:49:10 -0300 From: "Nelson Greenslade" To: "Misty" Subject: JD fluffiness Message-ID: <01bd6351$4ee25b00$LocalHost-+AT+-epzfbrwg> << << Unsung hero favorite: FX, he's funny, he's smart, he tries really hard, and he does the dangerous thing when its required with out a thanks from anyone. He really cares. >> Glad someone else thinks FX is amazing. With a name like Foxtrot X-ray, and a habit of appearing as James Dean, how could one go wrong! He really added a lot of humor to the books he graced with his presence.>> *squeals in joy* JAMES DEAN?!?!?!?!?!?!?! *squeals again, then slides off Potato's back, drags over her knapsack, unzips it, and hauls out a humongous beach towel featuring a lifesize terrycloth picture of the Rebel Without A Cause himself. Hugs it and then says* Idn't 'e da vreatetht??? (Translates as "Isn't he the greatest???") *launches into song with Potato humming low,rumbling backup* Where ya goin boy, I see your legs twitchin, (Jimmy,Jimmy! Ohhh,Jimmy,Jimmy!) My daddy says ya just need a good lickin! (Jimmy,Jimmy! Ohhh,Jimmy,Jimmy!) Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh whhhyyyyyy Do fools fall in love with fools like you? (Doop doo doop,doop doo do wah wah!) *crones unintelligibly to the towel for a few minutes, then falls back against Potato's side and sighs dreamily, gazing starry-eyed into space with an idiotic grin plastered across her face* Well, I just have to find these nearly-impossible-to-get-books-whose-titles-cause-librarians-to-give-innocen t-people-like-me-strange-looks!!! Great, now I have Madonna stuck dans ma tete.*sighs* Oh,well. It's an improvement; before it was Blondie!!! Potato & Elsa Member of M.I.T.H. Member of the Vanyel Fan Club Dame in the Knighthood of the True Fiancee ((hopefully)) future member of the Order of Unsung Heroes Devotee of the Wandering Ryoga ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., "I love rock'n'roll! So put another dime in the jukebox baby! I love rock'n'roll! So come and take your time and dance with me! Yea!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:14:19 EDT From: Nvrtrngbk To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Other Authors Message-ID: <45d0c2df.352c3d0e-+AT+-aol.com> Speaking of Celtic mythology...has anyone ever read Gael Baudino's "Strands of..." series, and her wonderful elves? --Pam (the mapless) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:57:11 EDT From: SirSlvrWnd To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Greetings to all.... Message-ID: <8e1fe57b.352c4719-+AT+-aol.com> Greetings to all here on the list.... I have just discovered the list and have been reading the past few days of messages. I have been a fan of Misty ever since I met her at a small Science Fiction / Fantasy convention about six years ago. And since then I've infected many more people with the Misty virus... ;) I would have to say my favorite characters have been the Diana Tregardie stories and the Oath series. I'm afraid I don't have anything "Fluffy" to say besides my introduction though... I'm a bit of a newbie about some of the online fan activity and the letters I sent to Queens Own a number of years ago went unanswered. I'm looking forward to participating... Silverwind ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:08:41 -0400 From: Malkavia Enterprises To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Other authors Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980409000840.00696a70-+AT+-pop.mindspring.com> Yes. They are also a type of Faerie. At 03:08 AM 4/9/98 +0100, you wrote: >hey I actually know what a pooka is. isn't it a blue spotted horse like >creature from Irish folk tales? pookas are coooool!!! > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:26:46 PDT From: "Raven Darkblade" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Jinx High Message-ID: <19980409042649.27958.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> <> Okay... textevd... /Funny, when I was a kid, I'd thought the things I "saw" were nothing more than oddball hallucinations, entertaining as hell, but no big deal. Like an imaginary friend, only better, some a lot sexier than any imaginary friend a high school kid would imagine. I just chalked it up to puberty, but they're still on my mind. Hell, back then I even thought Chinthliss was an "Imaginary friend," and I figured that still seeing him just meant I had a better imagination than everyone else. Until the spring dance, I never knew it was all real./ (Lackey 2) "Okay," Joe said, although he didn't sound very sure. "Uh, if you don't mind my asking, what kind of a name is 'Tannim'? I never heard anyone by that name before. And why don't you use your last name?" Tannim chuckled. "I use it, because one of my teachers gave it to me. 'Tannim' isn't the name my folks gave me, but I guess it must suit me since they started calling me by that right after I started using it. And I don't use my last name because I really don't need it." He shrugged. "Peaople remember a guy who only goes by one name, and in this business sometimes you need people to remember you." /I'm not gonna bring Chinthliss up unless I have to, and that is the only way I can tell him where the name came from. Kid's got enough to cope with already. He's got Fox; he sure as heck doesn't need Chinthliss./ (Lackey 49-50) The first selection tells us that Tannim had encountered Chinthliss long before the events in Jinx High; the second tells us that Chinthliss was involved in Tannim's change of name. We can assume that, since Tannim says "one of [his] teachers" renamed him, Chinthliss was responsible for naming him "Tannim." Since Tannim met Chinthliss prior to the spring dance at Jenks High, it's a safe guess that Chinthliss gave him the name before Tannim realized that Chinthliss was real. Works Cited Lackey, Mercedes. _Chrome_Circle._ New York: Baen, 1994. (Excuse unneccessary quoteage and MLA form... I have research-paper sickness.) Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, Card-Carrying Bitch, Member of the Mistic Circle, Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes, Advocator of Eldan and Champion of Kethra and Hyllar; and Mor the raven, her familiar. \ \\ \%, ,' , ,. \%\,';/J,";";";;,,. \%;((`);)));`;;,., ,`;))((;`,`((;(;;);;,` ;`((```))`~ ``; );(;));;, `-+AT+- `(( `), (;;);;;;` / `) `` /;~ `;;;;;;;);, / , ` ,/` / (`;;(;;;;, (o /)_/` / ,);;;`;;;;;`,, `~` `~` ` ``;, ``;" ';, `' `' `' abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ http://dragonlance.justbecause.org/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:30:01 PDT From: "Raven Darkblade" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Correction Message-ID: <19980409043001.28809.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> I made a mistake my last posting. The correct citation for Chrome Circle would be: Lackey, Mercedes and Larry dixon. _Chrome_Circle._ New York: Baen, 1994. Raven and Mor Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Sheep! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:46:51 -0400 From: "John E Morris" To: Subject: Re: wheel of time Message-ID: <01bd6372$834990e0$7c109cd1-+AT+-default> --- Most of the women in the book are characterized as petty, >hypocritical, manipulative and basically dumb. I don't like that at all >since, being a girl, I like the whole girl power thing (but not the spice >girls!). The only female characters i really like are Morgase and Min. I strongly disagree with this! If you look closely at the characters, you will find that the women who are most disagreeable are all Aes Sedai. Now, if you agree with the old adage that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, you will have to admit that it is not inconceivable that a society of all-powerful women would develop some very unpleasant members over the course of several centuries. I think one of Jordan's strengths is his protrayal of strong women who are actualizers instead of folowers. John E. Morris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:57:24 -0500 From: "Brooke Polson" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Greetings to all.... Message-ID: Welcome to the list!! It is always nice to see another devoted Misty fan. I also find myself choosing the Oath series as my favorite. Good choice and good luck staying "dry" as a newbie. Wind to thy Wings, Chayla Master Healer of the Desert Sunrunner and my trusty steed, "Tempest". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:50:43 -0500 From: "Brooke Polson" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: wheel of time Message-ID: In reference to women characters of Robert Jordan: I have to agree with John on this one. Jordan builds up the strength of his women characters the way that Misty does. They may have their faults, but then any character with "character" does. (forgive my bad pun.) Also, I feel that the Maiden's of the Spear and the other Aiel warriors are very like the Shin'a'in. Like the Shin'a'in, they were given objects of power to guard. Any thoughts on this? Chayla Master Healer of the Desert Sunrunner and her trusty steed, "Tempest". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:05:26 -0500 From: "Brooke Polson" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: First fluff Message-ID: -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- -+AT+-,--'-- A figure in tight-fitting silk robes the shade of a twilight sky stood quietly in the shadows sipping of a cup of Earl Grey tea. Her hair a deep brown and hung thickly to her waist. Green eyes slid around the room, landing lightly upon the strange but beautiful sights around her. Dragons caught her attention and brought with them the memory of home and the desert, where caves of gold gave birth to new dragonlets every season. A single tear flowed down a pale cheek. 'Enough of this,' she thought to herself. 'It is time to go out there and enjoy yourself, silly healer.' She released her thoughts into the air, drawing on the light from the candles around the Hall. The colors projected by everyone were brilliant to her sunrunner sight. She pulled back into her body and opened her eyes to her true sight. Taking a deep breath and a single step out of the shadows she thought, 'Here goes nothing. . .' Chayla Master Healer of the Desert Sunrunner and her trusty steed, "Tempest". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:49:30 -0300 From: "Nelson Greenslade" To: "Misty" Subject: misty Message-ID: <01bd639c$caac9d40$LocalHost-+AT+-epzfbrwg> <> Seriously? Misty lives in Oklahoma? (Gee, I pay a lot of attention to te About the Author sections...) I knew she'd put that in for a reason, but I figured it was a tie in with another book... Sorry so short... Potato & Elsa Member of M.I.T.H. Member of the Vanyel Fan Club Dame in the Knighthood of the True Fiancee ((hopefully)) future member of the Order of Unsung Heroes Devotee of the Wandering Ryoga ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:43:19 EDT From: LCM46 To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Pooka Message-ID: Greetings, all--- XcGRRLXC writes: > hey I actually know what a pooka is. isn't it a blue spotted horse like > creature from Irish folk tales? >From my copy of "Dictionary of Celtic Myth", Peter Berresford Ellis, Constable and Company Limited, London, 1992: Pooka--see Puca Anglicised as Pooka. A mischievous spirit who led travellers astray or performed other devilment. It occurs in later legend and seems to have no basis in myth. It could well be an import through the Danish settlements in Ireland, taken from the Norse puki. It also went into Welsh as pwca and into English as Puck. Doesn't say a think about appearance, tho-- Apology for no Misty content. Have been to busy to read much, and I have a nice new hardcover Misty waiting for me to take a break with! Lorraine Goddess of Domesticity/Laundry Appreciator of Penguins But I'm not dead yet! Monty Python/Holy Grail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:59:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Heartsong/Hellcat " To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Message-ID: Heartsong runs out of the Mist and disappears. She reappears in fromt of Chayla and gives her a huge hug. "I am glad there is sucha dragon fan. My SkyDancer loves praise and memories of other dragons. Maybe you could tell him stories sometime. He was brought here when he was just a babe and has not learned much of hs culture." A large blue head appeared over her shouldr and nudged her. She laughed,"This is my baby, SkyDancer and the little guy over there in Woosa. He is a miniature dragon from my home country. He was my first teacher. Also Chenci, a white hawk and Apache Tear, my overgrown furball. Anytime you need anything, yell. I have not been home in a long time either." Apache Tear nuzzles Chayla's hand and places an Apache Tear necklace in it. Woosa shakes her hand and gives her a hug, while SkyDancer nuzzles her face and mindsends: Anytime you would like a ride. Feel free to ask, my bonded does not give me enough exercise. He looks to Heartsong and she blushes. Then she and the others head off to cool off in the water fall. She gestures for Chayla to come. Then she hears the troll warning and watches out for them. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++End of Fluff I want to know if anyone likes the mixed styles when Andre Norton and Lackey write together? I think they make a wonderful team. Also Does anyone know if they have cowritten in any other books? Wind to thy Wings, Heartsong Apache Tear Woosa SkyDancer Chenci ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:24:33 -0700 From: Niki Nibbe To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: braid: valdemar/america; used books;other Message-ID: <352D1261.6C53-+AT+-earthlink.net> Hello, all! I'm only through my Saturday messages, so I have no idea where the list's really at right now...but if I don't send a message now, I'll probably get too buried to do so later. *g* Quickly on the subject of comparing Velgarth countries to Earth countries -- I agree that they're probably -loosely- based on existing countries...or, at least, American preconceptions of existing countries and peoples...but I really can't see Valdemar as America. I mean, I haven't seen any royalty around here, and we really are supposed to have that whole balanced government thing....Keep in mind also that many (most) of Velgarth's countries are in approximately renaissance or post-renaissance times as far as their economic structures, so that's gonna make it really hard to compare any of them to America...unless she throws in some colonies somewhere *g* I suspect there may have been some conscious modeling of the varios countries to get a "variety" like we really have, but beyond that, she's mostly trying to create a unique and different m.o. for each country...in RL, nothing's quite that black & white ... and her imagination probably plays a large part in creating the tapestry she's looking for. Hmm.. I have more to say, but I'll stop here, 'cause when I tried to say it, it didn't make sense. Um, just a little reminder, since a few of you have been seen doing this...when you reply to a message, please include ONLY the relevant part of the message you're replying to. I know your mail software might have pasted all of the message..it's up to you to delete the rest. I won't go into the reasons for why you should snip (common courtesy; makes it expensive for some people; etc.); I'll just appeal to your sense of right and all that fun stuff. *g* Okay, enough of that serious stuff.. Can't help anyone with really current books...however, for anybody looking for older, used books...I work in a used bookstore sometimes, and if anybody has a book or books they've been trying to find, perhaps I could keep an eye open. As far as mailing them, I can tell you that Winds books, sent from L.A. to N.Y., cost $2.95 to mail (I my extra Misty books to Carson). Hardcovers would probably cost more, and mailing to other countries might also be more expenseive...but if there's a book you really want, it might be worth it. As for the books themselves, prices are pretty reasonable. Anyway, if you're interested, email me privately -+AT+- madlink4-+AT+-earthlink.net. (Please DO NOT reply to this part on the list..prretty please?) Okay, guess that's it for now. Sorry there wasn't too much Misty content. Lady Niki FBotFR, Councilor of Mist, Future (hopefully, if I ever get off my butt and send in a request) Acolyte of the Order of Unsung Heroes, Princess of Procrastination ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:35:28 -0500 From: lady_fire-eyes-+AT+-juno.com (Sorsha T Al'Lindre) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Cc: lady_fire-eyes-+AT+-juno.com Subject: list of people Message-ID: <19980409.123528.3966.1.lady_fire-eyes-+AT+-juno.com> Hey, maybe we should get a list together of who is a God or Goddess of what. Everyonek eeps asking is there a god of Cats, unicorns, and other such stuff. It would be a good thing to post everyonce in a while or put on the webpage. Just MNSHO. Sorsha Tiana Al'Lindre "Women and cats will do as they please and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea" ~R. A. Heinlein Anyone else ever read Heinlein? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1551 **********************************