MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1585 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Mobile Heartstones by "Kal'enedral Kalen [OIB]" <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> 2) sheep by "Kal'enedral Kalen [OIB]" <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> 3) Re: Nitpicking by "Nadia Pitacco" 4) Re: Nitpicking by "Stephen M. Ross" 5) Free Bards query by Barbara G Jacob-Mcdowell 6) Re: Disney by Melanie Mouck 7) Fwd: Fwd.Poem/ Sort of Fluff, Cancer Research thing by Melanie Mouck 8) Re: Nitpicking by Rochelle4 9) Fare thee well...Entirely fluff, sorry. by Amanda Carlston 10) Re: Disney by Rochelle4 11) Farewell... by "Eve Peters-Campbell" 12) Re: Fwd: Fwd.Poem/ Sort of Fluff, Cancer Research thing by Kris Frye 13) RE:sheep by "Heather Persellin" 14) Re: Technology/Mobile Heartstone by "Brian Bennett" 15) Oops, sorry! by "Heather Persellin" 16) Re: One way Lifebonds... by Seasong ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:49:49 +0100 From: "Kal'enedral Kalen [OIB]" <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Mobile Heartstones Message-ID: <1C9B92E137C-+AT+-ghondr.mmu.ac.uk> > From: DragonFriend-+AT+-webtv.net > I think Firesong was surprized was because a heartstone is something > only the Tayledras are supposed to know how to create. Ye but Van was Tayledras trained. He knew a lot of their secrets. In one of the books it says something about him talking to Moonsong and Starwind about creating a heartstone. Firesong knows about Van because he is related to him so he must know that Van knew a lot of Hawkbrother magic [IMHO] ***************************************** "To be or not to be that is the question" Now the question I have is "TO BE WHAT????? To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: sheep Message-ID: <1C9E2F37126-+AT+-ghondr.mmu.ac.uk> > ~~~SPLOSH~~~ I take it that means you are sort of initiating us. What > is all this about sheep? Ahhhh. The sheep are little gifts we give each other on this list. You can have chocolate flavoured sheep, sheep flavoured chocolates. or any other variety you like. Can't remember how it got started but once it did it took off and after a while everybody started giving them out. > > Vanisa > ***************************************** "To be or not to be that is the question" Now the question I have is "TO BE WHAT????? To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nitpicking Message-ID: <19980512104940.25836.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> > When Tylendel is waking Van up from the nightmare, before they're > lovers, why is Van having a Foresight dream? I don't think it is a Foresight. The dream is very different from the one Vanyel has after his Gifts has been activated. The only trhing in common is the ice, but in the fist case it seem to be a symbol of Vanyel loneliness, in the second it is an element of the landscape. On the subject of Heartstones: I agree you can't build a "traditional" heartstone and move it, but I think you could create a stone to use a power sink. What I mean is that instead of feeding the stone from the ley lines, you could use the mage energy to build a store of power to be tapped when needed. I am not sure how much power coul be accumulated this way. I think an adept could channel a lot of energy, and some stones could be passed down within a mage school (just speculating). Someone can tell me if the idea could work (or why it is not feasible)? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen M. Ross" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nitpicking Message-ID: Hey guys. I am trying to unsubscribe because I am leaving for the summer, and the server won't accept. can someone tell me how to do it again?? thanks... fluffy sheep to all ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbara G Jacob-Mcdowell To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Free Bards query Message-ID: Heyla! I've been lurking so long, you probably don't remember me.... Anyway, I want to pose a question for a friend of mine who is off-list. She is an expert seamstress, and a harper, and is curious as to how people imagine the Free Bards' shoulder knots of colored ribbon look. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help.... --Barra Jacob-McDowell Barra the Bard bj00-+AT+-andrew.cmu.edu Everything will perish save love and music.--Scots Gaelic proverb Harpers have pluck--but don't get strung out.--Barra the Bard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Melanie Mouck To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Disney Message-ID: <19980512160950.21816.rocketmail-+AT+-send1a.yahoomail.com> > > I do not have children. I have not helped raise any children. But it > seems to me that the very intelligent people I know, including my > brother and myself, who were not restricted from TV and movies when we > were children, have turned out none the worse for the experience. There > is no reason that books or TV should be mutually exclusive--a child can > read without having TV and movies excised completely from his or her > life. > > Heyla, and I agree with your ideas. I was taught to read at 3, and had been watching Disney since 1. I was also taught the fact that most of the movies are "Disney-fied", or prettied up in order to make a better movie. I was also taught that taking someone's word for it can get you into some very sticky situations, so as soon as I was old enough I borrowed the books from the library and read the real story. Besides, TV and movies teach us a lot about life that we might not otherwise learn. Granted, books do too, but, well. Zhai'helleva, Melanie _________________________________________________ > == Reality is only for those with no imagination. Duct tape is like the Force; it has a light side, a dark side, and it = holds the universe together. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:15:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Melanie Mouck To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Fwd: Fwd.Poem/ Sort of Fluff, Cancer Research thing Message-ID: <19980512161557.26716.rocketmail-+AT+-send1a.yahoomail.com> ---2138437061-341603450-894989757=:14860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline note: forwarded msg attached. == Reality is only for those with no imagination. Duct tape is like the Force; it has a light side, a dark side, and it = holds the universe together. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---2131474914-341603450-894399082=:12294 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Message-ID: <19980504201458.27238.rocketmail-+AT+-send1c.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.209.58.60] by send1c; Mon, 04 May 1998 13:14:58 PDT Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: megan gartner Subject: Fwd: Fw: Please pass on for Cancer Research To: chelseamorrow-+AT+-yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-2131475428-986468767-894312898=:13684" Content-Length: 5556 ---2131475428-986468767-894312898=:13684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline note: forwarded msg attached. == Megan Gartner Is The Most Beautiful Thing In The World!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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Forsight is part of mind-magic. Also, Vanyel's magic hadn't been ripped open by the gate. If you remember the dream was before 'Lendel and Van became lovers. Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:32:54 -0500 From: Amanda Carlston To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Fare thee well...Entirely fluff, sorry. Message-ID: <199805121632.LAA20246-+AT+-gomer.wiscnet.net> Well, the summer has come, and it is time for all good college students to go home. While I would love to be able to stay on the list and contribute, I am afraid that it just cannot be at this time. I have loved talking to you all, and I'll be on the list for a few more hours at least. This is not good-bye, however. When I have the chance, I plan on being back and making trouble...err, having great conversations with you all again. Can someone keep an eye on the killer brownies for me? The spears are sharp, and I wouldn't want any of the newbies getting hurt. *Ashandra watches as a six-inch high man on a chocolate colored sheep shouts and gallops into a knot of newbies and begins poking them each with his spear. :Umm...I didn't know that sheep gallop...: she thinks.* Oops, sorry about that you guys. You gotta watch out for them. Wind to thy wings, listsibs. Until we meet again. Ashandra (the unbonded) Priestess of the Goddess of Elves Member of the Order of Unsung Heros [Kris, Dirk, Terenil, FX] _____ ____ _____ / ____|/ __ \ / ____| Please help bring all 200 episodes of Sailor | (___ | | | | (___ Moon + the Movies to America by visiting: \___ \| | | |\___ \ ============================================ ____) | |__| |____) | http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/sos/ |____ave\____ur___ailors!============================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:33:02 EDT From: Rochelle4 To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Disney Message-ID: <6701a31a.355879c0-+AT+-aol.com> I definately agree that watching tv and reading is not mutually exclusive. I love to read. I can read seven books a week, yet I also love tv. I don't know why they blame tv for children not doing thier homework. I always did while I was watching TV!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:07:34 PDT From: "Eve Peters-Campbell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Farewell... Message-ID: <19980512170735.2881.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> I expect that few of you remember me, and even fewer will mourn my passage... I have written only a couple of messages to the boards, and a couple more, private answers, to one or two querys about books. I don't even remember which books, except I think that Carbonel the King of Cats was one. But I stray from my purpose. Due to the fact that I have recently had to cut greatly back from my internet time, I am simply incapable of keeping up with the list. I wish that it were otherwise, but I am being reluctantly forced into cancelling my subscription. Anyone may, of course, feel free to e-mail me outside of the list (alestra-+AT+-hotmail.com) but I will no longer be here. Farewell, my friends. Perhaps, one day, I will be able to return. Alestra Ilevrienne (*Alestra closes her eyes briefly, sadly, then opens them once more, and glances down at the tiger by her side. "Are you ready, old friend?" ~Aye,~ a voice in her mind agrees. ~But I will miss this place.~ With a sad nod of agreement, Alestra turns and starts for the doors, Allian by her side as she leaves.*) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:48:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Frye To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd.Poem/ Sort of Fluff, Cancer Research thing Message-ID: Hi everybody, I'm not a Councilor or anything, so I'm probably not the best person to say this, but I'll try to keep it simple and friendly. If you think you're going to be answering more than one post, please read everything first and then answer in one long post (or "braid") rather than multiple short posts. It's much less annoying to readers, and it's easier on the mail server hosting this list. And, on a similar note, if you're ready to send your post and notice that it's under, say, 5 lines, it's probably not worth the bandwidth... remember that everything sent to the list is mailed to hundreds of people. Another good rule of thumb is that if your signature is longer than your post, something is VERY wrong.[0] Lastly, if you EVER receive anything via email that says something like "for every person this email is sent to..." or "Craig Sherigold" or "CASH!" or something similar, do yourself and everyone else a favor: delete it immediately and don't send it on to anyone. Really. Most of the time, these are emails that start out with good intentions, but by the time most people get them, they are out of control. For instance, the Cancer Society is not going to donate any money for cancer research because... it itself is a fund to research cancer. What's it going to do, donate money to itself? Especially, don't ever send anything like that to any mailing lists! For further questions, read the Newbiefest http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/misty/newbiefest.html or Auntie Mel's Rules of Thumb: http://www.herald.co.uk/local_info/rules_thumb.html or ask a Councilor of Mist (these people identify themselves in their .sigs) Anyway, apologies to everyone who already knows this already :) ObMisty: On the subject of one-way lifebonds: I think that, at least in Misty's universe, such a thing wouldn't happen. Lifebonds seem to be a mutual bond between two (or three) people. On the other hand, judging from Van and Tylendel's relationship, the bond doesn't seem to need to be the same for both people. IIRC, Van seems to be much more dependent on Lendel than the other way around. This may have been because of Lendel's other bonds to Gala and to his twin... or it may just have been personality differences. Lendel was certainly much more sure of himself and his sexuality than Van. Isn't there a line in which Lendel's ghost comes to Van and says "I didn't love you enough" or something to that effect? --Laire [0] This includes the "Yahoo" and "hotmail" and other various sigs that many free mailhosts use.[1] [1] Yes, this is my pet peeve :) __________________________________________________________________________ | Kris Frye | "These are not the droids we are looking for." | | kfrye-+AT+-reed.edu | http://www.reed.edu/~kfrye | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:23:07 MST From: "Heather Persellin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: RE:sheep Message-ID: <19980512192307.7346.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Heyla all, I'm also sorta a Newbie, and I also want to know what all this is about sheep please... Heather ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:24:55 -0400 From: "Brian Bennett" To: Subject: Re: Technology/Mobile Heartstone Message-ID: <19980512192515.AAA22542-+AT+-daisy> Star said: > IMO, if and when that happens, the Companions would probably become more > like the Elvensteeds of the SERRAted Edge books, able to BE cars but still > sentient beings in their own right. Just my opinion, of course. :) I could see Companions taking the form of house pets in a world with the same technology as ours. They would cetainly be less conspicuous than a large white horse walking down the street. On the other hand, maybe a world with our level of technology inhibits magic from flowing freely so that Companions would be rare or not exist at all. I've been thinking lately that introducing new technology at all is a mistake. Perhaps you could have an isolated "crazy" inventor come up with something new once in a while without upsetting the balance. However, I now think tech. should be introduced EXTREMELY slowly. There was one series where I thought technology and magic were woven together well. It was the Castle Perilous series by John DeChancie. I found Lord Incardine's computer intriguing. For those that haven't read the Castle perilous books his computer was described as something of a cross between Dr. Frankenstein's machine and equipment in a torture chamber. It was magically powered since electicity doesn't work reliably in Castle Perilous. > > From: Aramina2 > > wouldn't it be interesting if the mages > > could trap a few of the smaller ley lines in a globe that could be carried > > around with them? I believe our beloved Vanyel was the only mage that could muck about with heartstones by himself without the use of blood magic. IIRC the Hawkbrothers always worked with the heartstones in teams. If a team of mages worked on a portable heartstone, who would get to use it? Mages are not generally inclined to work on something together that would give only one of them an advantage. ShadowWolf, God of Stupid Chess Moves Founder of OOPS, Knight of Fluff Bonded with Wesak and Waszzy "My mind is going...I can feel it." --HAL-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:48:10 MST From: "Heather Persellin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Oops, sorry! Message-ID: <19980512194811.10681.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> I appologize for all spellin' and grammer in advance!!! I'm sorry, I forgot to introduce myself. =-( I'm Heather, a freshman at Tucson High School in (duh!) Tucson, AZ. I have been reading Fantasy/Science Fiction since I was 12, and started reading Mercades Lackey when I was 14. (I'm the 15 and 1/2 year old). As a subject of discussion, there was recently results put out that reading Fantasy/Science Fiction books actually increased one's thinking and creative abilities, especially in adolesents and teenagers. A stated example went like this. Two children were tested at the same grade level (6th), both are the same age, both are female. One child read only Fantasy/Science Fiction books in class assignments, and one read a little of everything EXCEPT Fantasy/Science Fiction. There was no outside reading coaching or anything of the such. In one year, the girl who read only Fantasy/Science Fiction was at a grade 10 reading level, and was doing more creative projects of all subjects than the other child. The child reading no Fantasy/Science Fiction was at grade level 7. Interesting? From personal experiance, I am at a reading level roughly equal to that of someone Mastering in Literature at a University. Chance? Heather Heyla!!! Check out the newest RPG on the net!!! High ranking positions are available!!! Here's PENANGALE!!! www.geocities.com/area51/lair/9529/index ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You have been mailed. End of message. Goto Penangale to procede. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:16:54 -0400 From: Seasong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: One way Lifebonds... Message-ID: <3558BC45.BBF1E277-+AT+-nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> --------------E9DDCC87113AD1AE2283C003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beth Allan wrote: > > But, on to my Misty question... > > > > While sitting in Math class today, I was thinking about a problem a > few = > > of my closer friends as well as I have. Do you think it's possible > to = > > have a sort of "one way" lifebond? One person being bonded to > someone = > > while the other is totally oblivious to it? I thought that it would > be = > > interesting to hear your opinions on it! > > > Heyla :-) I think that to have a one-way lifebond like that would be impossible. Partly for the reason already mentioned that it goes both ways and the two halves complete the whole, but also because the definition of a lifebond means that it is felt in some way by both individuals, whether they like it or not. A lifebond is not something that can be denied, and does not have to be a love bond. As Stef mentioned in SR (or was it SB?), a lifebond can exist with or without a lovebond because it basically exists to make up the faults in the two halves and make up a whole that is complete. Well, enough of that, on to other topics... > When Tylendel is waking Van up from the nightmare, before they're > lovers, why is Van having a Foresight dream? I don't think it is a Foresight. The dream is very different from the one Vanyel has after his Gifts has been activated. The only trhing in common is the ice, but in the fist case it seem to be a symbol of Vanyel loneliness, in the second it is an element of the landscape. I think it could be foresight because if you recall, Van had potential for mage gift and several other gifts, but they hadn't expressed themselves at a detecteble level. If I recall, foresight is not one of the most easily detecteble gifts, and if it only expressed itself when he had those dreams, it could have gone unnoticed. At least that is the way I see it... > I agree you can't build a "traditional" heartstone and move it, but > I think you could create a stone to use a power sink. What I mean is > that instead of feeding the stone from the ley lines, you could use the > mage energy to build a store of power to be tapped when needed. > > I am not sure how much power coul be accumulated this way. I think an > adept could channel a lot of energy, and some stones could be passed > down within a mage school (just speculating). > Someone can tell me if the idea could work (or why it is not feasible)? > Didn't Falconsbane try something like that? If I recall he tried to transfer the energy and node links of the K'Treva (? pardon if I get the clan name wrong) heartstone to his scrying stone, but Nyara shattered it at the last moment and created the maelstorm that sucked him and most of the contents of his workroom into the void. I believe he intended to create something similar to a heartstone, but would still have needed to create a ley line leading out of it and would have ended up with a very powerful node. I honestly don't know if it is possible to create a moveable power sink because you would always need that ley line siphoning off the energy that could not be contained or used, and that kind of lends to a stationary object. It is a good idea though. > Anyway, I want to pose a question for a friend of mine who is > off-list. She is an expert seamstress, and a harper, and is curious as > to how people imagine the Free Bards' shoulder knots of colored ribbon > look. Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance for any help.... > Has she taken a look at the knots used by the dragonriders and harpers of Pern? The book they are in is the Dragonlovers Guide to Pern, and it might be a good place to start looking for ideas. I would kind of imagine the Free Bards' knots as colorful versions of the Pernese knots. Maybe even using a similar system to denote rank among the Free Bards' (if they actually have ranks). For those of you that I have noticed sending separate messages to different comments, this is called braiding and is _really_ liked by most of us because it cuts down on the number of messages we have to wade through. I think I noticed a few of the newbies doing that. If you need more info, there is a newbiefest on the link homepage that explains just about everything about the list nettequite. **Fluff zone** Seasong looks up from the chess game she is playing with SnowFeather in time to see the brownie attack the newbies. :I'll watch after them for you Ashandra. Maybe he was poking his sheep to get it to gallop?: she mindsends before turning her attention back to her game. **End of Fluff** Chocolate covered sheep to all, and a fond farewell to all the listsibs that have to leave for a time. Seasong Priestess of the Goddess of Elves and Unicorns her companion Sheba the cat and her bondmate SnowFeather --------------E9DDCC87113AD1AE2283C003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Beth Allan wrote:
> But, on to my Misty question...
>
> While sitting in Math class today, I was thinking about a problem a few =
> of my closer friends as well as I have.  Do you think it's possible to =
> have a sort of "one way" lifebond?  One person being bonded to someone =
> while the other is totally oblivious to it?  I thought that it would be =
> interesting to hear your opinions on it!
>
 
Heyla :-)

I think that to have a one-way lifebond like that would be impossible.  Partly for the reason already mentioned that it goes both ways and the two halves complete the whole, but also because the definition of a lifebond means that it is felt in some way by both individuals, whether they like it or not.  A lifebond is not something that can be denied, and does not have to be a love bond.  As Stef mentioned in SR (or was it SB?), a lifebond can exist with or without a lovebond because it basically exists to make up the faults in the two halves and make up a whole that is complete.  Well, enough of that, on to other topics...

> When Tylendel is waking Van up from the nightmare, before they're
> lovers, why is Van having a Foresight dream?
I don't think it is a Foresight. The dream is very different from the
one Vanyel has after his Gifts has been activated.
The only trhing in common is the ice, but in the fist case it seem to be
a symbol of Vanyel loneliness, in the second it is an element of the
landscape.

I think it could be foresight because if you recall, Van had potential for mage gift and several other gifts, but they hadn't expressed themselves at a detecteble level.  If I recall, foresight is not one of the most easily detecteble gifts, and if it only expressed itself when he had those dreams, it could have gone unnoticed.  At least that is the way I see it...
  

I agree you can't build a "traditional" heartstone and move it, but
I think you could create a stone to use a power sink. What I mean is
that instead of feeding the stone from the ley lines, you could use the
mage energy to build a store of power to be tapped when needed.

I am not sure how much power coul be accumulated this way. I think an
adept could channel a lot of energy, and  some stones could be passed
down within a mage school (just speculating).
Someone can tell me if the idea could work (or why it is not feasible)?
Didn't Falconsbane try something like that?  If I recall he tried to transfer the energy and node links of the K'Treva (? pardon if I get the clan name wrong) heartstone  to his scrying stone, but Nyara shattered it at the last moment and created the maelstorm that sucked him and most of the contents of his workroom into the void.  I believe he intended to create something similar to a heartstone, but would still have needed to create a ley line leading out of it and would have ended up with a very powerful node.  I honestly don't know if it is possible to create a moveable power sink because you would always need that ley line siphoning off the energy that could not be contained or used, and that kind of lends to a stationary object.  It is a good idea though.
  
   Anyway, I want to pose a question for a friend of mine who is
off-list. She is an expert seamstress, and a harper, and is curious as
to how people imagine the Free Bards' shoulder knots of colored ribbon
look. Any ideas?

    Thanks in advance for any help....
Has she taken a look at the knots used by the dragonriders and harpers of Pern?  The book they are in is the Dragonlovers Guide to Pern, and it might be a good place to start looking for ideas.  I would kind of imagine the Free Bards' knots as colorful versions of the Pernese knots.  Maybe even using a similar system to denote rank among the Free Bards' (if they actually have ranks).

For those of you that I have noticed sending separate messages to different comments, this is called braiding and is _really_ liked by most of us because it cuts down on the number of messages we have to wade through.  I think I noticed a few of the newbies doing that.  If you need more info, there is a newbiefest on the link homepage that explains just about everything about the list nettequite.

**Fluff zone**
Seasong looks up from the chess game she is playing with SnowFeather in time to see the brownie attack the newbies.  :I'll watch after them for you Ashandra.  Maybe he was poking his sheep to get it to gallop?:  she mindsends before turning her attention back to her game.
**End of Fluff**

Chocolate covered sheep to all, and a fond farewell to all the listsibs that have to leave for a time.

Seasong
Priestess of the Goddess of Elves and Unicorns
her companion Sheba the cat
and her bondmate SnowFeather
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