MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1645 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Hello, i'm new... by "Mayyi Ho" 2) Royce and Tracy stories by "marty l. adkins" 3) Re: Other Misty books by cdelker-+AT+-earthlink.net 4) Rediscovery by edrucker-+AT+-ruraltel.net (Ed Rucker) 5) Re: Other Misty books by Reality continues to ruin my life 6) Re: Rediscovery by Jim Beyer 7) RenFest/Elvenbane/Book questions by "Abby Rahn" 8) Re: Elvenbane,-blood, sequel? by "Jennifer Ireland" 9) Re: RenFest/Elvenbane/Book questions by DragonFriend-+AT+-webtv.net 10) book character, newbie welcome by Seasong 11) i'm new....uhh, hi! by "Jennifer Ireland" 12) Elvenbane--third book? by rhiannon13-+AT+-geocities.com 13) HEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!! by "Marv Watson" 14) *Stepping out to say Hi!* by "Peggy Lee" 15) Re: Rediscovery by Greg Wooledge 16) Van-Lancelot/myths/ by MorningStar 17) Used Books by edrucker-+AT+-ruraltel.net (Ed Rucker) 18) oh, a lot of stuff by "Marv Watson" 19) Companions/Mike/the Van Mythos by "Morgaine" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 02:31:11 PDT From: "Mayyi Ho" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Hello, i'm new... Message-ID: <19980706093113.24125.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Hello, i'm new. I enjoy reading fantasy stories... like Mercedes Lackey stories, David Eddings, Tamora Pierce and Piers Anthony, my favorites. I also seem to use the "three dots" a lot... Generally, i''m a boring person, totally mundane... (Hey, you there! WAKE UP! "zzzz") I absolutely lloovvee Vanyel, Savil, Tayledras HawkBrothers and the Shin'a'in, and my favorite Valdemar series is The Last Herald-mage. Now, for my welcome speech! "Blablabla, blabla, blablabla..." And in conclusion, I would just like to say "Zhai`Helleva" to the people who resisted the spell of boredom and read this. A word of wisdom - Never stick your hand in a blender Luv, May the human, or Starwolf, the wolf (Once in a while, SkySong the dragon) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 10:30:44 -0400 From: "marty l. adkins" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Royce and Tracy stories Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980706103044.006a2f04-+AT+-pop.mindspring.com> Last week, someone wrote [attribution regrettably chewed by the eevil email]: > > > I know there's an example of that somewhere in Misty's work, but off > the > top of my head, I can't think of it. I *do*, however, remember an > excellent series of fanfic stories written by Royce Day & Tracy Patton > & > published through _Companion's Grove_ (an old Queen's Own - affiliated > > 'zine) that dealt with a Blue's Choosing. These stories came out in > '93, > and I don't know if the 'zine is still running, so... (Royce, Tracy - > if > yer out there, don't get mad at me. 'Twas terrific work. :) Royce and Tracy [happily married--to each other--for some years now, btw] aren't on the list anymore, but when I tracked him down, he replied the following: Thankyouverymuch! As I'm sure Jerrie has passed along to you, our stories are long out of print, but if someone needs copies, I can pass along photocopies of the original 'zines. The Totally Complete Works o' Royce and Tracy are as follows: "Herald's Blues" - Dugal finds that Whites fit better than blues. "Brother Love" - Kieth Windgaar avenges the death of his brother. "Family" - Dugal meets Kieth, and finds his Da isn't real thrilled about him becoming a Herald. "Haven" - Dugal and Kieth go back to Haven. Unfortunately Kieth suffers an attack of doubts, and Dugal an attack of runaway Gifts. And they both discover that females _are_ the more dangerous half of the human species. _The Sum of Duty_ - A one shot publication of two Dugal stories, "The Accounting" and "The Aftermath." In "The Accounting" Dugal goes over the border into Rethwellan, and finds himself at the mercy of a desperate and dangerous noble. "Aftermath" deals with the consequences of the previous story, as Dugal wrestles with his doubts, and his feelings towards one of his fellow Heralds. _Valdemarred_ - A completed, but never published novella. Dugal is on his way back to Haven after completing a routine Circuit. Unfortunately things become much less than routine after a strange lightning storm leaves him stranded in a parallel world that is a twisted mockery of his own. Note: "Haven", _The Sum of Duty_, and _Valdemarred_ should all be considered PG-13 for scenes of sex, violence, and implied torture. -Royce Day, AKA Herald-Accountant Dugal Andersonn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 07:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: cdelker-+AT+-earthlink.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Other Misty books Message-ID: <199807061458.HAA07047-+AT+-ireland.it.earthlink.net> I think I've read almost all of Mercedes' books. The ones I would recomend are as follows. Deffently 'The Lark & The Wren'. The story is one of my favorite books. I put it into a group of 'training' books. Where my favorite part of the story is the details and struggle of her going threw training. Just the daily routine of trying to live. (Not saying it doesn't have a story, but I like the depth to which certain stories cover things.) A book that it's simliuar to maybe... 'DragonSong' by Anne McCaffery. I also liked the book because there is parts that just make you feel good. (However I didn't like the rest of the series as much. I wanted to know more about the Lark & the Wren.) I believe Summon To Tourney was my favorite Urban Fantasy/serrated edge book. It's the one of Elves in L.A. Which is where I am from. So if your from the area or know the area, it's rather enjoyable, as Lackey throws in little bits that only those in the area might catch. (Which I'll tell of here, just for those who don't know.) The main one is that she has the elves at the Ren. Faire, which I actually work at. Well she has some details there, but the interesting thing I think is the Race Car Company that is suppose to be in the area is called Serria, which is the road one takes to go to Ren. Faire. I've looked, but haven't found a race car company in the fair area, but it's that extra hint of realiziam. The Diana Trengard series is okay. I've read all the problems Lackey has had with the series. (Mainly because people take the books to seriously, and believe that Lackey IS Diana Trengard and all that.) The Jinx high story is my choice for the one to start off with. Expecially if you don't know metaphysics (AKA. Magic). As for the collaberations. Elven Bane was very good. Borrow the book from the library. If you like the first chapter you'll injoy the book, if you don't, do bother reading more then. (However I didn't like Elven blood as much.) Ship Who Searched. I liked this one as well. However I did get sick of the whole series of the Ship Who. The rest of the series is writen by other authors, so it's a way to start with a familur author and then read other authers basing on the same universe. (Ship who Sang by Anne McCaffery is wonderful, however I hated The City Who Fought.) Anneke >Dear list-sibs, > >The only Misty books I've read are in the Velgarth series, but I'd like >to try her others like Di Tregarde, Bardic Voices, SERRAted Edge & any >others. Can you give me suggestions as to what to read first, your >personal favorites & so on? I can't buy every book I want >(unfortunately), so I want to make sure I invest in something I'll >really, really like. Thank you for your help! > >Zhai'helleva, > >Taquera >Lady In Green > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 13:59:28 -0500 From: edrucker-+AT+-ruraltel.net (Ed Rucker) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Rediscovery Message-ID: <35A11E8F.F7144B1E-+AT+-ruraltel.net> Heyla, I just finished reading Rediscovery for the first and possibly last time. I was VERY disappointed by the ending. It seemed as if they were reaching the end of the number of pages they were supposed to write and just tied it all off. Anyone else feel that way? I also hated that Ysane died!! Does anyone know if Vanyelcould whistle? Or Firesong? I don't remember any of them whistling, but music was an important part of Darwind and Elspeth's music. They meshed her music and his dancing together. anyone else found the ending of Elvenblood to be very unsatisfying. Yes. Alot like Rediscovery. It just seemed as if they were building some great storylines and them didn't let them develop. Maybe someone was afraid of becoming Wheel of Time-ish? May peace and contentment fill your souls, Minstrel Clarienne Lady in Green ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Reality continues to ruin my life To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Other Misty books Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 cdelker-+AT+-earthlink.net wrote: > details there, but the interesting thing I think is the Race Car Company > that is suppose to be in the area is called Serria, which is the road one > takes to go to Ren. Faire. I've looked, but haven't found a race car > company in the fair area, but it's that extra hint of realiziam. Actually, the organization is called SERRA, for South Eastern Road Racing Association (I think). It isn't really a company, just a group that exists for competition, like the NBA or the NFL (basketball and football leagues, respectively, for non-Yanks). The company is Fairgrove. But I like the bit about the road to Ren Faire being called Serria. Becky -------------- Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Beyer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Rediscovery Message-ID: <19980706195838.19638.rocketmail-+AT+-send101.yahoomail.com> IF I read this correctly it was sent only to me and not the list. I wonder if that was your intent? Thanks for your thoughts. J _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 16:33:57 EDT From: "Abby Rahn" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: RenFest/Elvenbane/Book questions Message-ID: <19980706203358.2487.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Heyla all! Yay! The modem is working again! Too bad I couldn't read all 423 messages that were waiting for me! I sorta glanced over a bunch, and then deleted the rest, so sorry if I'm a bit out of it. Long, long, ago (in a galaxy not so far away) The Fishers asked about the Maryland Renaissace Festival. I've gone there for many years, and had a great time. If you have any questions, just ask! Oh, and if you go, don't miss Hack&Slash! Not so long ago, people were griping about Elvenbane's sequel, Elvenblood. And NO, my name does not have anything to do with the main character in those books. Anyway, I loved the first one, was sort of dissapointed by the third, but still believe that everything will be resolved in a final book. There has to be a final book. THERE MUST BE A FINAL BOOK!!! (whew) Sorry, sorry, just needed to get that out of my system! To comment on another conversation, I loved the Ship Who Searched, As well as the City Who Fought, but aside from that, I didn't really like the Ship Who... series. Okay, so I'm going out of town on Saturday for a month (I think I'm gonna have to unsubscribe that morning... :( sniff) what do I take to read? I was thinking about starting some series' that I had never read before. Any suggestions (If so, please give me the title of the first book)? Also, does anyone know what the first Pern book is called? How about the first Darkover book, assuming that series HAS to be read in order. Will someone please let me know? Thanx in advance. I walk into my favorite public library to try and find some SERRAted Edge and Di Tregarde books (I've never read either series), and I look on the shelf, and none are there! Okay, I say to myself, someone else just had the same idea and checked them out already. But then I notice that there are very few Misty books on the shelf at all! Again, I assume that someones checked them all out. On my way to the checkout line, I pass the Childrens/Young Adults SF section. There they are! Some of my favorite books in the world (the Velgarth books) have been taken out of the adult section! I asked the librarian what that was about, but she said she didn't know. Hmm. Color me confused! Any comments? Alright, enough rambling for one day. Beware of a long farewell-fluff coming in the next couple days! Ben+Jerry's sheep to all (in whatever flavor you desire)! Fair winds, Shana Stormsong OOUH:champion of Teren, Keren, Sherill, and Jeri(as if she needs one!) *"Off the record, * * on the QT, * * and very Hush-Hush" * *"Leave the gun, take the cannoli" * ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:09:54 PDT From: "Jennifer Ireland" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Elvenbane,-blood, sequel? Message-ID: <19980706210955.19604.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> >I just finished the Elvenbane books and was wondering if anyone else >found the ending of Elvenblood to be very unsatisfying. Things >seemed to be building up for a grand confrontation and then >everything just fizzled out. It appears to me like Misty wanted the >story to go in one direction and Andre Norton wanted things to go >another way. Then it appears like they wrote a compromise ending >that wasn't very fulfilling to either author. Or, is this eventually >going to be a trilogy with the big confrontation at the end? Hi! I'm a newbie to this list as of today :) My name's Brynn. Anyways, about that ^, I heard a rumor of a third book coming soon. Oh, I know where from! On the Firebird art & music page, it had a list of Misty's "current projects", and it included an unnamed 3rd halfblood book. Can't wait for it, personally. BBFN, Herald Mage Brynn :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:22:18 -0500 (CDT) From: DragonFriend-+AT+-webtv.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: RenFest/Elvenbane/Book questions Message-ID: <16998-35A1400A-313-+AT+-mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Dragonsdawn is the first Pern book. I liked all of the Ship Who... books. Don' know the other series. A good series is the Shannara books by Terry Brooks, if you haven't read them. Vanisa Member OIB Member OLW Knight of Fluff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:27:28 -0400 From: Seasong To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" Subject: book character, newbie welcome Message-ID: <35A1413F.A6C4C45C-+AT+-nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> Heyla all, Just want to comment on the book character thread before it dies out... My choice of author's tie between one of Anne McCaffrey's world's (either a brawn, a dragonrider, or a healer), and Misty's Velgarth (probably a Hawkbrother Healer-Adept). The WitchWorld would not be to bad either, though I wouldn't want to be from Karsten or a Hound. Two author's whose character I would not want to be are Janny Wurts or Michelle West. They are both very good writers, but their characters always seem to have to go through some serious heartache (i.e. Hunter's Death or Stormwarden). As for characters who knew they were, whoever mentioned "The Neverending Story", the boy started out reading the book, entered Fantasia and then saw himself reading the book through the mirror at the Oracle. The whole idea was that Fantasia only exists due to our imagination, so he was both reading and writing the story at the same time. ******************************************************************************* Elspeth and Darkwind - Now that I think on it some more, I recall that when Firesong was lamenting not having a lifebonded, he brooded over those who had lifebonds. I know E&D were mentioned at somepoint during his brooding session... Can anyone help out with this? ********************************************************************************* Shana - The first Pern book that was published was Dragonflight, though chronologically I think it was DragonsDawn. Some other authors to consider reading are Robin McKinley (The Blue Sword), Gael Baudino (Strands of Starlight), Patricia Keneally-Morrison (I _think_ the first one is The Throne of Scone), and Meredith Anne Peirce (The Firebringer or DarkAngel). I don't know if you are familiar with any of these, but they are among the first fantasy authors I ever read, and are _good_ writers!!!!! (--5! ********************************************************************************** ******************************************************** Newbie Fluff ******************************************************** Seasong walks dripping up to Raven and May (or is it Starwolf...Skysong?) and holds out a couple of big fluffy towels (with embroidered sheep grazing at the edges) to them "Here, you might be needing these pretty soon. I just walked in out of the rain (Yaaay, it rained!!!), and grabbed a couple for you when I heard your'e hello's. I have a few other things around here somewhere..." :Here, I swear you would lose your'e head if it wasn't attached: The white cat draped around her neck hold out a leather pouch. "Thanks Snow, I think... let's see, for Raven I have a silver ring shaped like a bird in flight. If you touch it and think of seeing far it will give you a bird's-eye view of your'e surroundings. For May I have a silver amulet shaped like a unicorn's horn that has water purifying properties. If you have any questions, feel free to ask anyone, particularily if they have Councillor in their sig. Hey Yvonne! Here are two dry ones" With a bow and a gryn to the bemused newbies she steps back into the mists and vanishes. Sorry about the really long post, but I've been saving up for a while. Anyway, Sheep-shaped jellybeans to all!! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zai'hell'eva, Seasong Snowfeather (bondmate) Sheba the cat (companion) Priestess of the Goddess of Elves and Unicorns OIB Second (and, at present, Leader) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:34:22 PDT From: "Jennifer Ireland" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: i'm new....uhh, hi! Message-ID: <19980706213423.28113.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Hi everybody. i'm new to this list, and am sooo glad it finally worked. After many odd troubles, i've gotten a hotmail account for the list in particular. I love fantasy books, and most books in general. Some favorite authors (besides my favorite, Misty) are Anne McAfferey, Piers Anthony, Tamora Pierce, Peg Kerr, Brian Jaques, Mickey Zucker Reichert, Garth Nix.... on and on. oh, my favorite ML series is the LHM. Anyway, i'm glad to be here representing the Cupertino JH Section Of Insane, Book-Obsessed, And-Altogether-More-Interesting People Of America. Sorry i'm going on... Herald Mage Brynn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 18:24:07 -0500 From: rhiannon13-+AT+-geocities.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Elvenbane--third book? Message-ID: <35A15C97.6FDA-+AT+-geocities.com> Bright the Day!! WARNING: this is only a rumour. I read somewhere that there was a third book in the works. I'm not sure where, but I think it was at the TOR online page, and since that is the publisher for the duology, there might be some basis in truth. Wind to thy Wings; Rhiannon Shadowsong AKA Katie McQuage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:20:45 -0700 From: "Marv Watson" To: Subject: HEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!! Message-ID: <000801bda934$b48ee8a0$ca8030cc-+AT+-default> I am going to England in less than a month with some family. I would like to know of any unusual places that are really neat that I could go and drag my all-to-hide-bound cousin to. She needs to have *some* adventures for Heavens sakes. Anyway....that's my plea. Sorry for no Misty but this is important and everyone's now decided to put the planning of the intire damn trip to *me* and I haven't been to England in 5 years! HHHHEEEEELLLLPPPP!!!!! Skywolf and Misha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 16:24:43 PDT From: "Peggy Lee" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: *Stepping out to say Hi!* Message-ID: <19980706232444.20413.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Well, i signed up about a week ago. Figured i could only lurk for so long before saying something. First off, AVOID the Shannara books! i like Brooks' work, but those bored me to tears, well, the first chapter did, i couldn't get farther. It's slightly off the fantasy path, but if anyone HASN'T read the Honor Harrington books by Dave Weber yet, well, you should! Space opera at it's best! The Darkover books don't have to be read in any particular order although there are mini-series i guess you could call them inside the whole arc. Another good author to read over the summer is Tad Williams. A brief thought on Misty. i found her in S&S III and was hooked, well, actually, i found her first OathBound first back-tracked to my used book store for the S & S books so I could read in order. i am bad that way, very linear in my reading. Ok, ok, i've droned on enough, what a way to welcome myself, but it's to late now. . . *ignores the delete key. . . bad key!* The Prince's pixie, Lady of the Library in the Woods & Nymph of the Snows ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:31:24 -0400 From: Greg Wooledge To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Rediscovery Message-ID: <19980706193124.01194-+AT+-phoenix.local> Jim Beyer (kb9ngi-+AT+-yahoo.com) wrote: > IF I read this correctly it was sent only to me and not the list. I > wonder if that was your intent? There may be some confusion here. You sent this message to the list, not to a private person. (Threw me for a second there!) Most mailing lists don't override the To: header, but this one does. When you get messages from the Mercedes Lackey mailing list, they'll be marked as To: you, but the Reply-To: header will be set to the list address. There are also some additional headers that the mailing list adds (X-Comment: and others). Hope this helps. ObMisty: I finished Oathblood a week or two ago. It was all right, but I liked the first two V&H books better. (It probably doesn't help that I'd already read a couple of the Tarma/Kethry short stories in the MZB S&S anthologies.) -- "Daddy, why do those people have to | Greg Wooledge use Microsoft Windows?" | wooledge-+AT+-kellnet.com "Don't stare, son; it's not polite." | http://www.kellnet.com/wooledge/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 20:02:35 -0600 From: MorningStar To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Van-Lancelot/myths/ Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980706200235.006e43e4-+AT+-mail.geocities.com> Mark commented on Lancelot loving the queen and being cast out for it... true, that didn't happen to Van, but at one point he thought maybe he was falling in love with the king's lifemate, and he DID father her child, which lends a bit more strength to that one. :) I see the Sun and Shadow myth as somewhat similar to Romeo and Juliet... That may not be a "myth" in our time but it seems to be in Talia's. And that's about all I have to say... Star Known to one and all as MorningStar, alternate names accepted at times Mindmate to the tawny eagle Ryia! Co-leader of the Order of Unsung Heros (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9763) morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com dawnrain00-+AT+-aol.com http://www.netcom.com/~wiegand/kris (my page) http://www.netcom.com/~wiegand (Wiegand family homepage) "Love doesn't have an artificial limit of time or distance or place, or even of blood. It goes on as long as everyone involved is willing to do whatever it takes to keep it going." --Jean Ferris, "Looking for Home" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:31:12 -0500 From: edrucker-+AT+-ruraltel.net (Ed Rucker) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Used Books Message-ID: <35A19680.101909E7-+AT+-ruraltel.net> Heyla, Some of you have been bemoaning the fact that it is expensive to buy Misty's books. Well, I have come upon some of her books on the ebay auction site. They usually go cheaper than at used book stores! Right now the storms triology is at $15 for the entire set! Hope this help: ebay Have any of you read the Arrow of the Queen Concordance? I'm trying to decide if it is worth ordering from Firebird Arts. Give me your thoughts. May peace and contentment fill your soul. Minstrel Clarienne Lady in Green ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:15:59 -0700 From: "Marv Watson" To: Subject: oh, a lot of stuff Message-ID: <008a01bda977$18602b40$458030cc-+AT+-default> Heyla! <> What's the Concordance? Is it just all of the books bound together into one large book? **************************************************************************** * <<>> I like both. The characters give depth to the book, while the plot is basically the reason why you're reading the book. The best book for believable characters that I've read would have to be Tad William's Memory, Sorrow and Thorn books. The main character Simon is incredibly believable. He isn't perfect, he whines, cries, is afraid, is brave and courageous too. (Sorry if my spelling sucks). Also, Charles DeLint is an amazing writer as well. **************************************************************************** * <> In what books? I'd like to read about that...I loved the movie Merlin. He was the main character for once and not some doddering old nut in the corner. Of course, I haven't read most of the Arthurian stories so I should just shut up now... So, what books were those? : ) (As she pulls on a piece of her hair and stirs the red curry &rice that's cooking up...) **************************************************************************** * <<"I didn't want to do this. The voices told me to." "I'm never lonely with my schizophrenia.">> The one named Jennifer that no one on this list has seen is laughing her a*-+AT+- off right now. Indeed she is falling off the chair as she attempts to write this message. She loves it. It's hilarious. (sorry, schizoid humor coming to the fore). lalalalalalalala.......heeheehee..snort....chuckle....outright bellowing laughter that scares the socks off her sleeping dog... **************************************************************************** *** <<< Thankyouverymuch! As I'm sure Jerrie has passed along to you, our stories are long out of print, but if someone needs copies, I can pass along photocopies of the original 'zines.>>>> The laughter stops. The fingers on the keyboard freeze. Oh. Oh oh oh oh. Hee hee. Um, me?!!!!! ME! ME ME ME ME ME! Please? Pretty please with sheep shaped cheeries on top? Tell me the adress, I'll pay for postage! Pleasssssssse? Lots and lots of whip cream too! (my friend just LOVES whip creme. She'll order it in restraunts. Just whip creme, nothing else. And sometimes a bowl of cherries too.) **************************************************************************** ****** <<>>> Two words. Tad Williams. Very good. Take slowly. Enjoy much. Book title: The Dragonbone Chair. **************************************************************************** ******** ObMisty: Pedran's Wolves! I think. Bring on the stories! More Empire! More Uthro! And what in the worlds is Owlsight going to be about? Other than the continuing story of whats-his-name from the first book? Anyone care to guess? I currently can't think coherantly about much of anything right now to hypothesize one. I just planned 25 days of fun filled family vacationing with a querrolous father. And I still need more suggestions! I have five days of freedom in London! What do I do?????!!!!! Swingfully Yours, Skywolf and Misha Priestesses of the Orders of: John the Guitar Player Buddah the Drum God & Rob the Guru Guy Priestesses of OOPS Members of the OIB Members of OOUH 1st Champions of Firesong! &what the hell happened to all the mistic circle people anyhows? "An' it don' mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing.." Miles Davis * "My favorite reality is no reality for chaos is my friend."J.W * "Did you hear that?" she asked. The fact that there was no one else in the room disturbed her not at all. "Ok, good, I was just checking. I'm glad I'm not the only one hearing that damn laughter." -J.W. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:25:45 +0200 From: "Morgaine" To: "Mercedes-Lackey (E-mail)" Subject: Companions/Mike/the Van Mythos Message-ID: <000901bda97c$fc56fcc0$656410ac-+AT+-pc01.tc-systems.ch> Elsa wrote: << Companions, as I understand it, are Guardian Spirits in the forms of horses. They're pretty much designated by the Gods to guard Valdemar, and I think who their Chosen will be is already, well, Chosen. Preordained. >> I did not get the impression of anyone designating the Companions to guard Valdemar. King Valdemar asked for help to all the goods he knew, but it seemed to me that some of the forces working against Evil (the Guardian Spirits) choose to associate themselves with Valdemarans. One thing that seem to support this is the reactions of all mages that recognize Companions as something different from horses. They see that Companions do not belong to this plane of existence, but they don't classify them as "divine messengers". I think that the Choosing is closer to a deliberate life-bond, that is impossible to break once established and must be accepted (even at unconscious level) by both parties. A this point, I think I will throw a stone in the pond and see what happen: Do you think there could be a life-bond where the parts are not in love? >From the descriptions, a life-bond is a kind of empathic link, but I am not sure this is the same as being in love Opinions? Becky wrote: <> Don't you dare to make strange innuendoes about Mike :-( Even if he went catatonic at the end of the book, he is one of the computer that got me into computer science. I am still looking for him, somewhere in cyberspace As a last point, about the Van mythos. I think that the archetype of "sacrificed hero" is one of the things that make Van the most popular character in all the Velgarth series. Most of the "complaints" I have heard/read about other characters is that they did not suffer o sacrificed enough. This is the MAIN reason I would not like to be a character in any book I really love. Most of them have tragic heroes, and the logical setting for tragic heroes are messed up situations, like wars, end-of-the world scenarios and other assorted dangers. Zhai'helleva Morgaine ---------------------- Morgaine, the Were-Cat A distant cousin to the Cheshire Cat "I am the Cat who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me" ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1645 **********************************