MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1646

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) thanks/a question/hello
	by "Raven Castro" <parielle-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  2) Re: oh, a lot of stuff
	by Jim Beyer <kb9ngi-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  3) Re: Merlyn
	by "Angie" <heraldtg-+AT+-mbox3.singnet.com.sg>
  4) Re: *Stepping out to say Hi!*
	by Reality continues to ruin my life <recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
  5) Companions/Ma'ar/Merlyn
	by rhiannon13-+AT+-geocities.com
  6) Sheep/ Serra/Horsemaster
	by geis <geis-+AT+-virtual-cafe.com>
  7) Re: oh, a lot of stuff
	by "Rhiannon" <rhiannon99-+AT+-mailexcite.com>
  8) Re: HEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!
	by B10nd31-+AT+-aol.com
  9) Shannara
	by Greg Wooledge <wooledge-+AT+-kellnet.com>
 10) Re: Merlyn/companions
	by "Jennifer Ireland" <jenniferireland-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 11) Re: oh, a lot of stuff
	by littlebees-+AT+-bbs.tsf.com
 12) MIST: companions and new councilors 
	by "Eleonora Scoseria" <eleonora-+AT+-infodynamics.com.uy>
 13) Re: oh, a lot of stuff
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 14) Christ/Lancelot/Tarma
	by rhiannon13-+AT+-geocities.com
 15) Re: Merlyn
	by AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
 16) Re: the Van mythos
	by "Winterstar K'Sheyna" <sereyne-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 17) Re: the Van mythos
	by Chris <caml-+AT+-iw.edwpub.com>

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 03:31:26 PDT
From: "Raven Castro" <parielle-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: thanks/a question/hello
Message-ID: <19980707103151.27629.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Zhai'helleva, listsibs!

First of all I'd like to thank Seasong for the towel (it did rain here), 
and the ring.  Thanks also to Karen (for writing), Kiarrith, Catling, 
MUSE, KiT, Kat, Elijaran, and Bai Kai Ling.  It was really interesting.

Then I would like to say hello to my fellow listsibs who are also new to 
the list.  Heyla! to May/Starwolf/Skysong (whichever you prefer) and 
Brynn.

Lastly, I have a question:  In the magewars, Ma'ar had a lot of 
mercenary troops.  Well, how did Ma'ar come to his power?  I have read 
the magewars, but I don't have a personal copy so I really don't 
remember.

Thanks, wind to thy wings!

Raven

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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:25:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Beyer <kb9ngi-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: oh, a lot of stuff
Message-ID: <19980707122538.11274.rocketmail-+AT+-send1e.yahoomail.com>

A "concordance" is a refrence book that lists words and phrases with
page/chapter identities and sometimes short quotes.  Most often one
sees them for the Christian Bible. 

HTH
FWIW
jimB




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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:29:53 +0800
From: "Angie" <heraldtg-+AT+-mbox3.singnet.com.sg>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Merlyn
Message-ID: <01bda9a2$f1a8a780$0100007f-+AT+-heraldtg>

Skywolf and Misha wrote:
:<<Merlyn isn't always depicted as
:an old man, you know...>>
:    In what books?  I'd like to read about that...I loved the movie Merlin.
:He was the main character for once and not some doddering old nut in the
:corner.  Of course, I haven't read most of the Arthurian stories so I should
:just shut up now... So, what books were those? : )

hmm.... Okay. In case everyone wants to know... I believe the Pendragon books by
Stephen R. Lawhead features Merlin (or Myrddin) as an eternal youth (always
looks about 30 something). And the book by Nancy MacKenzie (sp?) -- The Child
Queen and The High Queen, shows Merlyn as a young man, only growing "old" cos he
was poisoned by someone... Morgaine? I can't remember. It's been six months!
If I remember correctly, MZB said something like that too.
So far, the Stephen R. Lawhead books are the greatest. Myrddin is the narrator
of the story. Unfortunately, the books are also severely...independant. Lancelot
dies defending the queen, they were never lovers. Myrddin also happens to be a
King, and a Prince from Atlantis.. .so.... ;)
sorry if i was not much help.

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Date: 	Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:17:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Reality continues to ruin my life <recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: *Stepping out to say Hi!*
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980707111429.565C-100000-+AT+-flagstaff.Princeton.EDU>

On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peggy Lee wrote:

> First off, AVOID the Shannara books!  i like Brooks' work, but those 
> bored me to tears, well, the first chapter did, i couldn't get farther.  

No, no, no! The Shannara books are wonderful! Well, the first one is. The
second and third are merely good. The ones after that.... don't bother.
The Sword of Shannara, book one, is marvelous. Slightly slow beginning,
but only slightly. Once it gets going, it REALLY gets going. The Eye of
the World (by Jordan, and, IMHO, his best book) reminded me of it, but
Sword has much better battle scenes. Definitely give this one a try.

Becky

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 12:18:56 -0500
From: rhiannon13-+AT+-geocities.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Companions/Ma'ar/Merlyn
Message-ID: <35A2587F.7FD2-+AT+-geocities.com>

someone wrote (sorry but I don't know who):
"I think who their Chosen will be is already, well, Chosen. Preordained"


Choosing is exactly what it says:  choice.  In Magic's Price, Yfandes
tells Vanyel that she knew when she chose him  that she would die but
did it anyway.  She didn't have to, but she wanted to.  Of course, if
the powers that be knew that she would, then you can call it
preordained, but the fact remains that she essentially had free will.

Refering to Raven's question about Ma'ar coming to power:  it says in
the Storms (I think that Silverfox says it when he's giving Firesong
therapy--or maybe An'desha said it...) that he was a tribal shaman or
mage and he became their leader.  He originally inteneded to consolidate
the tribes to protect them from outside inveaders, but as we all know,
he became a power hungry madman, by the time he was Leareth and
Falconsbane.  Also note that he originally justified ALL of his
atrocities by telling himself that they were for the protection of his
people.  His people loved him, and he was a relatively good leader.

And now for Merlyn:  I don't have much to say (its all goin to be said)
so I'll keep it short.  In The Once and Future King by T H White, Merlyn
gets younger as time progresses.  I think he's living backwards.  In M.
Z. Bradley's The Mists of Avalon, "Merlin" is a title for the leader of
the Druids, not a person, and there are more than one in the course of
the book (two or three...I don't remember).  That's all for now!

Wind to thy Wings
Rhiannon Shadowsong

Insomnia is a terrible thing to waste!

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 11:22:33 -0700
From: geis <geis-+AT+-virtual-cafe.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Sheep/ Serra/Horsemaster
Message-ID: <35A26769.7DBC-+AT+-virtual-cafe.com>

Hey guys,
I think I've been reading too many past degests from the archives about
sheep--last night I actually, not kidding, had a long, involved dream
about the woolies themselves, SHEEP!!!!! <-5  It was very strange. 
First the sheep were being herded, and then two came in the house,
flopped down on the couch, and snuggled into the blankets.  I'm
beginning to have serious doubts about my sanity. =)

ObMisty
Today my dad promised to take me to the bookstore so I can get started
on SERRAted Edge!  Yay!!

Yeah, okay, that wasn't much of an ObMisty, so here's another:
In Oathbreakers, it says the Horsemaster of Rethwellan's name is Tindel,
then in Oathblood at the end of the last story, it calls him Tilden. 
Anyone else notice this?  (If it's already been discussed, I'm sorry)

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 14:28:37 -0700
From: "Rhiannon" <rhiannon99-+AT+-mailexcite.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: oh, a lot of stuff
Message-ID: <IOCKJKHMHPNLAAAA-+AT+-mailexcite.com>



<<Merlyn isn't always depicted as
>an old man, you know...>>
>    In what books?  I'd like to read about that...I loved the movie Merlin.
>He was the main character for once and not some doddering old nut in the
>corner.  Of course, I haven't read most of the Arthurian stories so I should
>just shut up now... So, what books were those? : ) (As she pulls on a piece
>of her hair and stirs the red curry &rice that's cooking up...)
***************************************************************
Try reading Mary Stewart's Merlin Trilogy.  It starts with Merlin as a 6-year old boy living in his grandfather's household and goes all the way to the old man part.  They're really good books.  The first one is called The Crystal Cave, the second one is The Hollow Hills, and the third one is The Last Enchantment.  They don't stay exactly to legend.  Mary Stewart tried to write them how she thinks they would have really happened and there's appendixes in the back with background on the legend and the history of the time if you like that kind of stuff.

Ob-Misty: Has anyone ever really looked at the timelines in the front of the books?  I think there's something funny about the years at the time of Vows and Honor.  Tarma and Kethry start their work during the reigns of Arden and Leesa, but they're both still around during selenay's reign. (Remember, it was after Thanel was killed that Tarma sent Daren home, so she was still teaching at that point.)  Anyway, if I did the math right, that makes Tarma and Kethry over a hundred years old.  Just how long do people live on Velgarth, anyway???
Sheep to everyone!
Becky  


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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:15:16 EDT
From: B10nd31-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: HEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <7cd3b15a.35a2ac05-+AT+-aol.com>

In a message dated 06/07/98 23:34:48 GMT, you write:

<<  am going to England in less than a month with some family.  I would like
 to know of any unusual places that are really neat that I could go and drag
 my all-to-hide-bound cousin to.  She needs to have *some* adventures for
 Heavens sakes.  Anyway....that's my plea.  Sorry for no Misty but this is
 important and everyone's now decided to put the planning of the intire damn
 trip to *me* and I haven't been to England in 5 years!
 HHHHEEEEELLLLPPPP!!!!!
 Skywolf and Misha
  >>

which part of england are you going too,

york is pretty good, a lovely minster (type of catherdral) and the Jorvik
center (Jorvik is the viking name for york) shows a recreation of a viking
town and then there is the
york dungeon, shows scenes of plague victims, tortues, prisioners and other
stuff.
the north east of england has some nice castles and there is the old roman
wall (Hadrain's wall) and reconstructed roman fort. and in Hexham there is a
museum
about the old boarder reaveres.
both Scotland and Wales have lots of intresting sites too
Edinburgh has a ghost trail with a guide.

if you let me know the type of stuff you are intrested in i can you more
locations

Shas ellion

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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:16:58 -0400
From: Greg Wooledge <wooledge-+AT+-kellnet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Shannara
Message-ID: <19980707191658.10380-+AT+-phoenix.local>

Reality continues to ruin my life (recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote:

> No, no, no! The Shannara books are wonderful! Well, the first one is. The
> second and third are merely good. The ones after that.... don't bother.

I disagree about one book: The Druid of Shannara.  It's the second book
of the second sub-series, which makes it fifth overall.  I really liked
that book.

(... mild spoilers ...)

This also ties in with another thread on this list about Christ figures:
one of the main characters in this book is clearly based on Christ,
and another Judas, and if you've read the Christian "gospel" you'll
recognize the main theme once you get to the end of the book.

(... end spoilers ...)

ObMisty: I don't see Vanyel as a Christ figure at all.  It just doesn't
fit.  I can *almost* buy Lancelot, but it's a stretch.  I'm pretty sure
Misty didn't use any of the mythologies with which I'm familiar when
she created her Velgarth books.

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 16:23:02 PDT
From: "Jennifer Ireland" <jenniferireland-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Merlyn/companions
Message-ID: <19980707232302.21900.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>


<<Merlyn isn't always depicted as
>an old man, you know...>>
>    In what books?  I'd like to read about that...I loved the movie 
Merlin.
>He was the main character for once and not some doddering old nut in 
the
>corner.  Of course, I haven't read most of the Arthurian stories so I 
should
>just shut up now... So, what books were those? : )

T.A. Barron wrote "the lost years of merlin".  It is really good!!  In 
it, merlin is a kid, but it the first of 3.
 2ndly, how would I go about getting a Companion?  Do i just put him/her 
down or do i have to "sign up" some where?

  Zai'helleva,
 Herald Mage Brynn

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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:30:50 -0500 
From: littlebees-+AT+-bbs.tsf.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: oh, a lot of stuff
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.18.7.7.-12.30.50.2577584775.160397946-+AT+-bbs.tsf.com>

<<Ob-Misty: Has anyone ever really looked at the timelines in the front of the
books?  I think there's something funny about the years at the time of Vows and
Honor.  Tarma and Kethry start their work during the reigns of Arden and Leesa,
but they're both still around during selenay's reign. (Remember, it was after
Thanel was killed that Tarma sent Daren home, so she was still teaching at that
point.)  Anyway, if I did the math right, that makes Tarma and Kethry over a
hundred years old.  Just how long do people live on Velgarth, anyway???>>
Ok, I was also curious about this.  I was thinking that Kethry and Tarma
never ended up dying, because wouldn't Kerowyn make a rather big deal
about it?  I mean, Kethry is her grandmother, and Tarma was her
teacher...

Anyway, I think I've been reading too many e-mails.  I had a dream last
night that I was being trampled by a herd of sheep with webbed feet...I
have no idea where the webbed feet came from, but the sheep are rather
obvious...

Reighvyn Emrys
Daughter of Queen Mara of Rynia
Mercenery and Advocate of Women's Rights
OOUH (Savil, Dirk, Raven) & OIB



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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:31:33 -0300
From: "Eleonora Scoseria" <eleonora-+AT+-infodynamics.com.uy>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: MIST: companions and new councilors 
Message-ID: <01bdaa07$c20bfb20$ad7303cf-+AT+-compu1>

Hi, everyone!

Herald Mage Brynn wrote.

> 2ndly, how would I go about getting a Companion?  Do i just put him/her
>down or do i have to "sign up" some where?

OK, there are prolly people on the list who are better suited to answer this
but in order to have a Herald persona pertaining to Misty's world you need
to contact Queen's Own and go through some process of creating the persona
and having it "approved". The same applies for any persona based on Misty's
world, such as bards and healers and hawkbrothers, IIRC. I know some
listsibs here are members of Queen's Own, so perhaps one of you could
provide the info?

Something else I have been meaning to post to the list: there have been some
new additions to the Council of Mist, so I thought I'd add the updated list
so that everyone knows who the Council members are so that you can email us
if you need help, have problems, etc.
If you want the general information on what the Council of Mist does, the
explanation can be found on the Newbie Fest at:
http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/misty/newbiefest.html

For those newbies who have not announced themselves on list, the above link
contains information that we strongly believe will help you fit in and
better enjoy the list (not to mention help you stay out of trouble <wink>).

So right now the Council consists of:
"Meg" <SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com>
"Deniz Sarikaya" <dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA>
"Cennydd" <Kenny-+AT+-Udel.edu>
"Ailsa Reid" <P0051885-+AT+-BROOKES.AC.UK>
"Carla" <GodesCarla-+AT+-aol.com>
"True" <pixel-+AT+-capecod.net>
"Dax" <tntgray-+AT+-sprintmail.com>
"Wintershard" <minterra-+AT+-frontiernet.net>
"Ele" <eleonora-+AT+-infodynamics.com.uy>

We are here to help, so feel free to contact us.

Hmmm...ok, on the companion's preordained choices or not...
What about Alberich's choosing? I have not read that short story for a long
time, but the poor companion appears behind Karsite lines to choose
Alberich, whom we all know becomes instrumental in Valdemar's defense.
Soooo...how did the companion find him? It was not like he was moving around
and happened to choose him? It looks like he knew somehow that a certain
karsite needed to be chosen....

Just some random thoughts.

Peace,

Ele
Councilor of Mist
High Priestess of Karma
and some other list titles that I will spare y'all ;)


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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:12:41 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: oh, a lot of stuff
Message-ID: <v04003a00b1c87456111e-+AT+-[24.92.209.48]>

Well, I'm back, and I've gotten past lurking and being mysteriously
unsubbed for months and months <glares at listerserver for the unsubbing
and Mat, even though I doubt he's here, for the procrastination> and
resubbed and caught up and so what's the first question I feel qualified to
answer?;>

Becky asked:
>Ob-Misty: Has anyone ever really looked at the timelines in the front of
>the >books?  I think there's something funny about the years at the time
>of Vows and >Honor.  Tarma and Kethry start their work during the reigns
>of Arden and Leesa, >but they're both still around during selenay's reign.
>(Remember, it was after >Thanel was killed that Tarma sent Daren home, so
>she was still teaching at that >point.)  Anyway, if I did the math right,
>that makes Tarma and Kethry over a >hundred years old.  Just how long do
>people live on Velgarth, anyway???

Now, let's see if I can dig up my answer to that one. Why, yes I can.
Now...people have disagreed with these figures, and since I wrote them out
so long ago I can't back em up well, and I'm not up to par with my misty
trivia right now so I can't do a new one, so...unless someone wants to redo
it, use this blast from the past;P

Subject:     Re: Oooooooold broads! :) / Swordspoint
Sent:        9/5/96 9:57 PM
To:          mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk

>I've been meaning to say this for a while.  I think it's pretty sure that
>T&K are both being preserved by magic, whether Kethry's or something
>else's, I don't know.  I get this from an online chat with Misty Jake
>posted waaaaay back when (I actually still have it :) )
>
><<<<<<<
>Shelley Kilts: ok, I have to punch out here soon anyway.  How old are
>               Tarma and Kethry in BY THE SWORD?
>
>Mercedes(Misty): Very old.  Around 100, I disremember the exact age.
>                 They're preserved by magic, like the Hawkbrothers...
>                 so real infirmity sets in in a matter of weeks just
>                 before Check Out Time.
>                 They're OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD broads.
>>>>>


Well, I just got a lot of free time on my hand (I SHOULD Be doing Mpromise
for my MoC, but nooooooo), so I found out how old she was.

If kethry died at the same time as tarma, she lived at most 151 years.

She was 121 at the time of the 'hunting accident'.

At the time of the Valdemar part of BTS, she was 143.

Here's all my years, which could be VERY useful considering how bad the
timeline is:

1251- kethry born
1270- kethry 19
1371-talia born
1376- Selenay queened
1377-elspeth born
1378-hunting accident
1384-talia chosen
1384-talia 13
1384-elspeth 7
1391-talia gets whites
1391-talia 20
1391-elspeth 14
1392-talia becomes QO
1392-elspeth 15
1392-Ancar usurps throne
1392-talia 21
1394-Ancar attacks a second time. Rebuffed by the 'bolts
1401-WoFate starts
1401-elspeth 24
1401-talia 30
1401-tarma dead at LATEST
1401-1402- WoChange
1402-Tarma is a leshya'e Kal'enedral

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 20:38:10 -0500
From: rhiannon13-+AT+-geocities.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Christ/Lancelot/Tarma
Message-ID: <35A2CD82.48E-+AT+-geocities.com>

OK, Greg said "I don't see Vanyel as a Christ figure at all.  It just
doesn't fit.  I can *almost* buy Lancelot, but it's a stretch.  I'm
pretty sure Misty didn't use any of the mythologies with which I'm
familiar when she created her Velgarth books."

This isn't meant as an insult, so don't take offense.....but I can tell
you probably aren't majoring in Literature or Psychology.

Anyway, haven't you ever noticed that everything that teachers tell you
about hidden meanings isn't intentional?  It's all based on the Jungian
theory about the collective subconscious.  The theory is that we have
have these racial memories, and archetypes (ie Christ and Lancelot)
stuck in there, and writers remember that stuff.  When you write,
everything you've ever read or heard or saw is influencing you, so if
you were really affected by a myth, you might put a little of it into
the story unconsciously.  It happens, trust me.  And a lot of it is
coincidence too.  But you can't deny that it is there.

About Tarma and Kethry not dynig: Karal met Tarma, as a Veiled One.  She
died.  And Kethry was OLD when Karowyn was around...arthritis and all. 
Tarma had it too for that matter.  I think that people live longer
because they are healthier.  They have comparable medical care and eat
less junkfood.  

Wind to thy Wings, 
Rhiannon Shadowsong

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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 22:12:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Merlyn
Message-ID: <01IZ4V68AZIQ8ZXXEX-+AT+-delphi.com>

Re Merlin--If you've never read Mary Stewart's books about him--The Crystal
Cave, The Hollow Hills, The Last Enchantment--those are really good, and
'Cave' is the best of them, IMO.  They cover Merlin's life, and, as I
recall, go from his childhood to his old age.



     Chantal


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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 23:06:38 MDT
From: "Winterstar K'Sheyna" <sereyne-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: the Van mythos
Message-ID: <19980708050638.22224.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

>   If Valdemar was the King Arthur figure, then Van would be...what? A
>knight of the realm? Seems to suit him. But we have several from the
>legends. Lancelot, Percevil, Gawain, etc. I'm not the family Arthur 
buff
>(though I have to read a bunch of the books this summer...grr...I don't 
like
>being told what to read...), so somebody more familiar should answer 
this:
>which knight was he most like?
>   And then there are so many other mythologies to consider....
>*disappears into her books of world mythology*
>
>Elsa
>Knight of Fluff
>OoUH champion of Jonne and Moonbeam,
>caller of monsters and lover of mythology
>
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Just a note, as I see we are having fun comparing Vanyel to King 
Arthur's court, I was wondering if anyone has read 'The Broken Sword' by 
Molly Cochran and Warren Murphy.  I just finished it, and I thought it 
was quite good.  I haven't read the preceeding book, 'The Forever King' 
though.  I plan to.  It's about King Arthur in our RL time... as a young 
boy.  Of course, there's Merlin, the knights of the round table... 
(though how Hal finds them is interesting), and the evil that Arthur 
must vanquish...  But it's a good read, I thought.  Try comparing Vanyel 
into THIS age!

Winterstar K'sheyna

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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 00:54:12 -0500
From: Chris <caml-+AT+-iw.edwpub.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: the Van mythos
Message-ID: <35A30983.26417314-+AT+-iw.edwpub.com>

>

lots'o snips

>  'The Forever King'
>
> Winterstar K'sheyna

lots'o snips

----  I have read the Forever King and found it to
be good, but I didn't know that it was in a
series.  I'll have to check thatout.

Chris


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