MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1708 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Fluff-location, by "May Yi" 2) Re: Jody Lee is a goddess! :) by "Angie" 3) OBMisties and Friendship Ring fluff... by Rainbow 4) mostly how weird my school is, plus ObMisty and suggested reading material by "Nelson Greenslade" 5) Timeline, Vanyel by "Jennifer M. Shultz" 6) Kethry got Need, Albrich, and Fair by Michelle Needleman 7) Re: Ma'ar, Falconsbane, etc by Kara Peterson 8) So How old is Van in MPrice? by bausch-+AT+-ruraltel.net (Lester D. Bausch) 9) Re: So How old is Van in MPrice? by Katie 10) Re: OBMisties and Friendship Ring fluff... by "May Yi" 11) Re: Timeline, Vanyel by "May Yi" 12) Re: Timeline, Vanyel by "Kethryvis" 13) To Any Helpful Councilors: How to Get Off the List? by Katie 14) Newbie needs help! by Chesterman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 18:33:32 PDT From: "May Yi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fluff-location, Message-ID: <19980904013333.11153.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> > > >Ambersong wrote: > >> >> >> On the location thread, I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Anyone else from around that area? >> I'm from a place, far far far far far away from there. Tiny little island, Singapore. Hair colour: Dark brown/black Is there any Mercedes Lackey channels on DALnet? Are any of you addicted to chatting ? I am. Oh no! What should I write for an ObMisty?? er.......... Er....... Er..... Okay, this may be a little stupid, but why did Alberich leave Karse and join Valdemar instead? Oh yeah, thats cause he was Chosen... But how did that happen? Luv, May Human, Starwolf Wolf, SkySong Dragon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:40:39 +0800 From: "Angie" To: Subject: Re: Jody Lee is a goddess! :) Message-ID: <01bdd7d7$4fc20de0$0100007f-+AT+-heraldtg> Heyla all! yep, i'm back... for the mo'... ;) run for your lives! *g* :Jody Lee has done the cover art for almost of Misty's Valdemar :books. I love her stuff. A few years back Firebird had prints of all of :Jody's cover art for sale, and I curse myself for not ordering the LHM :prints! WAAAHHH!! Hmmm. I thought... I thought they were still selling them? wiataminit... yep! check on the inside cover of any DAW published Misty Book, and you'd find the addy to mail for the colour prints. If you can't find it, this is what was written-- For color prints of Jody Lee's paintings, please contact: The Cerridwen Enterprise P.O Box 10161 Kansas City, MO 64111 1800-825-1281 :Those are definatly my favorite covers. I also like the covers of some of :the Bardic books, and the dresses on the cover of Jinx High are way cool. ::) I didn't know she did them... oops... ;) Dresses? Oh yeah... I liked the one that Di was wearing... was it Di? I know it can't be Fay... she was blonde... :And of course, Kethry's clothes just plain rock. : :-Keth haha... Please, listsibs, try to snip off passages that you don't use or don't quote... BTW, on the location thing... Hi May! I'm from S'pore too! The promos are coming, and I'm going to die.... ;) Where are you? Okay... sorry back there! For Alberich's story on his choosing, read HorseFantastic... ahhh something "silver", was it? Sorry, didn't read that bit... Mashmallow sheep and Giggle bubbles! ( ) Wind to thy Wings ) ( Shadowblade mindmate to Raul <==+==> Elven archer-mage of Fairgrove >>~~~~~> | | High Priestess of the Goddess of the Elves | | High Priestess of OOPS | | Grand Dame of the Order of the Namers | | Singer of Fire - Alto Section | | Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes (Eldan, Eric, and Terenil!) | | Member of the Mistic Circle | | Visit my Homepage ~> | | http://members.tripod.com/~Shadowblade \/ "I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:34:43 +0100 From: Rainbow To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: OBMisties and Friendship Ring fluff... Message-ID: OK OBMisty first... Amberdrake had Healing gifts and Empathy, in Valdemar didn't Shavri have both? I don't see why 'Drake was shunned by both groups when he could do his job better, and Heal WHILE being a Kestra'chern... Would 'Drake have been a Herald do you think if he had lived in Valdemar? Yes it /is/ a Trodi'urn that looks after gryphons... Talking of gryphons /why/ was Skan bleached white as they escaped? I /really/ don't get that... I /know/ he was dyed black, but Gate magic doesn't bleach... I mean Vanyel uses Gates all the time... he gets a /few/ white hairs, not bleached! Unless it was the node the Gate was attached to (are Permanent Gates attatched to Nndes? How did Urtho power them?) OK node or magic powering the Gate was unstable, and Vikteren couldn't /totally/ steady it? If that is the case, I would have thought Skan would be a /lot/ more affected by the amount of Mage power needed to bleach him! Did he end up with blue eyes btw? I imagine Levin bolts as lightning (to whoever mentioned that ages ago!) May wrote... <> I know it's in Horse Fantastic, a collection of short stories by different authours, but I've never read the book... ISBN anyone? I've lost it... and I want to pester my library about getting it! *g* OK Fluff time! (That /is/ enough OBMisty isn't it? *sheepish smile*) Rainbow stands on a small wooden box which mysteriously appears and grabs the Friendship Ring from the table. "OK everyone! Listen up!" she smiles shyly as everyone turns to look. "I have permission to restart the Friendship Ring. This is made of 3 bands of gold, silver and electrum in a single ring." She grins. "/But/ there are rules. Firstly: Friendship Ring fluff MUST have an OBMisty preferbly longer than the fluff included. Second: The Friendship Ring /mustn't/ overtake misty conversation, fluff should be kept to a minimum!." Rainbow sees nods in the crowd from oldbies who remember when the Ring started. She laughs softly. "That's what happened last time. The idea of the Ring is simple. Each week it is given to someone, maybe a lurker, a newbie, anyone, to make them feel welcome or cheer them up, but it /must/ be passed on... The giver will then find that 3 seperate rings, one of gold, one of silver, and one of electrum, will appear on their fingers." She smiles self-consiously. "Well, I suppose I get to give it first!" She looks around the crowd, looking for people she /thinks/ haven't had the ring... "Rhiannon?" She calls out as she sees the lady among the crowd. She slips the Ring onto the talkative lady's finger, "Just remember pass it on next week!" Rainbow gasps in delight as 3 rings appear on her fingers. "And keep the fluff down!" She grins, realising /she'd/ better stop the fluff! Well... that's that started! Oh yes... If Leareth could create a creature, the thing that killed Savil, wouldn't he be called a sourcerer-adept? I mean An'desha calls himself a sourcerer-adept because he knows how to create creatures... but isn't Kethry a sourceress, and she doesn't know how to create creatures? Now if my library would /just/ get Owlflight... *sigh*... 'If you want the Rainbow, _.-~-._ 'I ain't flawed, I'm just a you gotta put up with _.~ _ ~~~ _ ~._ diamond cut in a unique way.' the rain.' ,~ _ ~ -~- ~ _ ~, / /~ /~ RAINBOW ~\ ~\ \ ~Dolly Parton | | | |/-~-\| | | | ~ Tristan 'I don't take offence... I take revenge!' ~ M'lady (Wishbone) ZHAI'HELLEVA! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:06:00 -0300 From: "Nelson Greenslade" To: "Misty" Subject: mostly how weird my school is, plus ObMisty and suggested reading material Message-ID: <01bdd787$08ef4fe0$5095b3cf-+AT+-epzfbrwg> I'm baaa-aaaaack!!! <> I do. It's a dark auburn with coppery highlights most of the time, but in autumn (the season where I'll go outside willingly more than any other) it lightens a bit. Under flourescent lighting it looks orange, sometimes with green highlights. And it's natural, I swear! <> We're special. ^_~ But I don't know about dress codes in other schools. I may have gone to five different elementaries, but junior high and high school were the same (even when they changed the name one summer *rolls eyes*) <> Sure seems to fit. Or maybe a Tayledras scout-mage. <<(Computers hate me. But not as much as printers do!)>> I sympathise, being the victim of a sadistic computer and a obstinant scanner. Our printer isn't to bright, so sometimes I can bribe it or threaten it into working properly. <> They'd have to suspend half the students because we're a rainbow of colors over here! <> With or without the wings? Seriously, since it was Danielle's mother's wedding dress, I suggest trolling the bridal shops. Me, have no idea what I'll wear to the prom, or even if I have a date (though my friends seem to think I have a crush on one of my buddies. We're just friends; so what if he always tells me about his new swords and stuff? I listen.) but my father already has a limo assured. <> I usually just point out that the tops of carrots are green. So now I'm sometimes referred to as Big Red. I'm 5'4". <<:) It was a pretty weird place... a bunch of my friends once got called down to the principal's office because we all hugged each other too much, and it was making the administration uncomfortable.>> Cyndi Lauper was expelled from Catholic school because she got another girl to scratch her back. She met that girl years later... she was the wife of the directer of a music video Cyndi was making. Amazing what you can learn from PopUp Video. Meanwhile, two girls in my gr. 6 class declared they were married, and then got divorced in gr.7. Oi. Yep, we're an odd bunch. Our Spirit Director last year (Danny *snif* may he have a wonderful life, through college and after) ended his term in office with a real bang. See, we have an assembly where the new Student Government takes over from the old. In all of them (whether violent take over or peaceful transition with 60's music) the new took over from the old pretty quickly. Not Danny. Dressed in a cheerleading uniform (nicely showing off his arms and legs *hoots*) Danny had a catfight with his 'heir', the Joker-spandex-suit-wearing Colin. He won, then did his victory dance to Spice Up Your Life, with plenty of his famous high kicks. But Colin defeated him by telling him he'd never be a Spice Girl. Yes, we're definately strange. It really makes me wonder what it would be like in a Collegium. I mean, all the students live there, and many of them have powers they could maybe use for harmless pranks between friends. They wear those uniforms (grey ick only when I'm in the mood, blue is much more often seen on me, thatnks so much) so they'd have to individualize themselves some other way, right? Hmmm... <> Enough time for Medren to go from small boy to young man. <> Yes, but Krebain could have been working for Leareth. He wasn't in Valdemar, but he could have been evidence of an attempt on Leareth's part to gather forces on Valdemar's flank, so that when the time came he could hit them with a double whammy attack from two fronts. Um. I'll be quiet. << Now for my question. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Elspeth is a tad rude to Gwena most of the time? I don't see why Gwena puts up with it.>> Gwena's generally a bit rude to her. I just read Majyk my Hook or Crook and Majyk by Design (the first book in this trilogy is Majyk by Accident) and I thought they were really funny. The two warrior women aunts in MbD remind me a little of Keth and Tarma. I really recommend tham if you want some light reading. They're by Esther Friesner. Okay, I couldn't resist. Here's some fluff. This is the end of the non-official-fluff letter anyway. ~~~~~FLUFF~~~~~ Elsa perches on top of a tall piller and watches the Hall with eagle eyes. Spotting a newbie and overhearing "I just started today" she tosses down a rope with a bundle and note attatched to the end. It lands right in front of Christen, thudding against the pillar at the Georgian Listee's waist level. The note reads "Heyla and well met! Here's a gift from one listsib to another. I'd come greet you myself, but I'm wearing my new Lusty Shoes(tm) and don't want t step in a puddle from all these splooshings. ~Elsa~" Elsa waves. Inside the bundle is a cute plush purple, pink and gold dragon, a box of maple candy and a fluffy towel inexplicably covered with elk and penguins. ~~~~~END FLUFF~~~~~ Elsa Knight of Fluff, OiB, OoUH Champ for Jonne, Moonbeam and Iceshadow, Member of the OoDA, caller of monsters, and wearer of Lusty Shoes(tm) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 06:57:18 PDT From: "Jennifer M. Shultz" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Timeline, Vanyel Message-ID: <19980904135718.17948.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Okay, I found it! There are nine years between MPromise and MPrice. Jisa was six in MPromise, and fifteen in MPrice. Next question, Did Misty ever write down the story of how Kethry got Need? If so, where? Jennifer XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO O X X Jennifer M. Shultz O O X XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Michelle Needleman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Kethry got Need, Albrich, and Fair Message-ID: <19980904165354.7537.rocketmail-+AT+-send102.yahoomail.com> Someone asked "Okay, this may be a little stupid, but why did Alberich leave Karse and join Valdemar instead? Oh yeah, thats cause he was Chosen... But how did that happen?" If I remember this correctly, Alberich was a foreseer. Several times when he was in command of his troops (wasn't he the youngest to be in command?) he forsaw the future and was able to save his troops. I think the book one from Arrows, stated, "He knew the outcome one too many times" or something to that effect. The troops became suspecious, and being agains't magic of any kind, they were going to burn him at the stake. He ran from them into a barn that they set on fire and his Companion came running into the burning building and rescued him. Someone else wrote "Imagine this: I *am* in middle school! just think how much respect I get! adults ignore me, and most kids think i'm wierd 'cause I read and stuff. Arrgh! life is *not* fair." Nope, life is not fair, much like the characters in Misty books we have to endure....But it will be worth it in the long run. All those people who don't read will miss out and have to attend Stress Management classes because they can't lose their anger in a good book! (or learn about good ideas, tolerance and social niceties) Did Misty ever write down the story of how Kethry got Need? If so, where? How Kethry got Need, Hmmmmm, seems I remember something about how she got it....I just can't remember where. It may have been in Sword and Sorceress book number 5, or she may have said how she got in By the Sword, when she gave Need to Kerowynn. I will double check. == Dragonchilde Mi'lynn Listee for Nathaniel Keeper of Anita's Knives, Sheaths, Excutioner Bags, and Zombie Bag Ultimate Misty FAN, and Gryphon Healer in training "Don't cry over spilt milk, it makes it salty for the cats" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 14:12:10 +0000 From: Kara Peterson To: Mercedes Subject: Re: Ma'ar, Falconsbane, etc Message-ID: <35EFF539.27819ACD-+AT+-earthlink.net> I just have an idea to bring out for all to think about. Some believe that no one person is born purely evil. As heroes have flaws, so villains must have good points. My thought is this. What could have happened to shape Ma'ar and his various incarnations into such an evil being? Was it something that happened in his childhood to shape him forever? If we were to psychoanalyze the fellow, (God help us), then what might we find? Just an idea. Musebeam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:58:15 -0700 From: bausch-+AT+-ruraltel.net (Lester D. Bausch) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: So How old is Van in MPrice? Message-ID: <35F04657.4D6C-+AT+-ruraltel.net> If the time stretch between MPromise and MPrice is 9 years that would make Van 37, right? I thought I read somewhere in MPromise that he was 28. Fluff: Faye and her fluffy raccoon approach the crowd around Rhiannon looking at the friendship ring...Neat Ring!! The raccoon looks around for his new ferrett friends. He doesn't see them. Instead, he goes over to one of the sheep in the hall and climbs up on the sheeps back for a sheep ride and they cavort around the hall in happy abandonment. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:24:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: So How old is Van in MPrice? Message-ID: <19980904212403.22726.rocketmail-+AT+-send1d.yahoomail.com> > If the time stretch between MPromise and MPrice is 9 years that would > make Van 37, right? I thought I read somewhere in MPromise that he was > 28. I always thought that he was 35 or 36, so that sounds about right. I hate to say this, but good-bye all. I have to take some time off-list because of school. I'll be back, and I'll miss the list. :( Bye. == Kay Silversong, Bonded of Winddancer Member of Mistic Circle, the OIB, and the OLW Protectress of Methos's love of the music band Queen Up The Creek Without A Paddle "Everything you do bears a will & a why & a wherefore..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:04:28 PDT From: "May Yi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: OBMisties and Friendship Ring fluff... Message-ID: <19980904230429.28990.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> > >Talking of gryphons /why/ was Skan bleached white as they escaped? I >/really/ don't get that... I /know/ he was dyed black, but Gate magic >doesn't bleach... I mean Vanyel uses Gates all the time... he gets a >/few/ white hairs, not bleached! Actually, Van doesn't use Gates much, unless its totally urgent. His channels were blasted open by Gate energy, so it makes him very sensitive to that. I think if he made a Gate and went through it, he'd be totally sick for a day or so. I remember in MPawn, he was struck down just by one opening gate alone. Savil probably uses much more Gates than Van, and HER hair was all white.... if you choose to ignore their age difference. > >May wrote... > ><Karse and join Valdemar instead? Oh yeah, thats cause he was Chosen... >But how did that happen?>> > > >I know it's in Horse Fantastic, a collection of short stories by >different authours, but I've never read the book... ISBN anyone? I've >lost it... and I want to pester my library about getting it! *g* > AHHHH!!!! AHHHH!!! Where can I get my hands on a copy??!?!?!?!? I'm a little crazy right now... I've NEVER heard of that collection!! Luv, May Human, Starwolf Wolf, SkySong Dragon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:09:33 PDT From: "May Yi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Timeline, Vanyel Message-ID: <19980904230934.23049.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Jennifer said >Next question, >Did Misty ever write down the story of how Kethry got Need? If so, >where? > YES! Its in Oathblood, the collection of short stories about Tarma and Kethry... I know theres a name for that type of book... but never mind . Read it, its grreat! Luv, May Human, Starwolf Wolf, SkySong Dragon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:52:39 -0700 From: "Kethryvis" To: Subject: Re: Timeline, Vanyel Message-ID: <19980905000438881.AAA152-+AT+-Shipping-1.it.inreach.com> May, You sure? I've read _Oathblood_ several times...and unless I skipped a story somewhere, there is no story about how Keth got Need. The very FIRST story in the collection is how Tarma and Kethry met... It is briefly mentioned in _Oathbound_...it was when Keth was getting ready to leave her school and head out on her Journeyman period...the guard of the school pulled Keth into her office and gave her the sword saying that Need had spoken for her. Keth tells the story in there somewhere in the first chapter or so. -Kethry ---------- From: May Yi To: kethryvis-+AT+-reachme.net Subject: Re: Timeline, Vanyel Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 4:52 PM Jennifer said >Next question, >Did Misty ever write down the story of how Kethry got Need? If so, >where? > YES! Its in Oathblood, the collection of short stories about Tarma and Kethry... I know theres a name for that type of book... but never mind . Read it, its grreat! Luv, May Human, Starwolf Wolf, SkySong Dragon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:54:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: To Any Helpful Councilors: How to Get Off the List? Message-ID: <19980904235440.12373.rocketmail-+AT+-send1e.yahoomail.com> I hate to ask this, but is there a Councilor out there who can help me get off the list? I have tried repeatedly to unsubscribe, and I keep getting messages that say that it is an invalid request, and that any subsequent requests that I make will be ignored. Help? Thanks == Kay Silversong, Bonded of Winddancer Member of Mistic Circle, the OIB, and the OLW Protectress of Methos's love of the music band Queen Up The Creek Without A Paddle "Everything you do bears a will & a why & a wherefore..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 17:23:51 -0700 From: Chesterman To: Mercedes Lackey Subject: Newbie needs help! Message-ID: <35F0848E.C3325790-+AT+-ior.com> I would like to read the archives before I jump in and annoy everyone, but the "help" file from ListProc is anything but helpful (I'm new on the 'net too).  Can anyone show me the correct request for the complete archives (I've got the index but keep getting syntax error messages when I request the files).  I can hardly wait to dive in, so your help is greatly appreciated!

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