MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1737

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Infatuation with Vanyel/annoying people
	by songbard-+AT+-juno.com (Eaton W Thurman)
  2) Favorite Trilogy
	by efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty)
  3) Old news
	by "Tim & Tiffanie" <tntgray-+AT+-sprintmail.com>
  4) Re: If you haven't read SWarning, skip this
	by "StarFire K'Vaia" <darkjedi3-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  5) Can't read the emails!?
	by tristain-+AT+-lycosmail.com
  6) Re: Infatuation with Vanyel/annoying people
	by Kenneth Allen Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  7) Re: Infatuation with Vanyel
	by "Rhiannon Shadowsong" <rhiannon13_-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  8) Re: Kory cover, LHM, fluff
	by Dancekbg-+AT+-aol.com
  9) stuff
	by Silveyrna <silveyrna-+AT+-geocities.com>
 10) fav trilogy/scene and covers (with fluff)
	by Ember <emerald_teardrop-+AT+-yahoo.com>
 11) Re: Infatuation with Vanyel
	by "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 12) Re: Leshya
	by "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 13) Tarma's sexuality
	by Peter Allen <minterra-+AT+-frontiernet.net>
 14) Re: Kory cover, LHM, fluff
	by "Lady Sunhawk" <leapermuldervamp-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 15) RE: Tarma's sexuality
	by "Eleonora Scoseria" <eleonora-+AT+-infodynamics.com.uy>
 16) Fav trilogy
	by "Old Nicodemus" <cdi-+AT+-se-tel.com>
 17) favorite scene / RL / Fluff
	by Hobbs Tina <thobbs-+AT+-thomas.butler.edu>

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:56:36 -0400
From: songbard-+AT+-juno.com (Eaton W Thurman)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Infatuation with Vanyel/annoying people
Message-ID: <19980928.225636.-261671.0.SongBard-+AT+-juno.com>

>I always kind of pictured the Shin'a'in as Native American's with swords
>instead of bows and arrows (stereotype- sorry). I mean, from all that
I've
>read about both races, they seems to be incredibly familiar, what with
the
>early growing-up of the children, the emphasis on fighting skills, and
the
>rest of that. Anyone else figger?

	That's a little innacurate, but it IS the common view of N.A.'s so I
won't hold it against ya <G>. Of all the groups, the Shin'a'in most
resemble the North American Plains tribes such as the Lakota, Pawnee,
Oglala, etc., in that they are nomadic and warrior-like.  On the early
childhood thing though, I'd say that the average plains indian child
probably had a longer childhood than, say, a 13th century European
peasant.
	Also, on the fighting skills - many tribes were agrarian in nature, and
even in those who weren't, it was more HUNTING skills than fighting
skills that were praised.

>wish TARMA had married Roald! Yeah, I know she was celibate and all,
>but,well....they seemed to be friendly...

I seem to remember something in (was it BTS?) where Tarma implies that
she wasn't just celibate, but was INCAPABLE of having any kind of sexual
relations.

>It's so great to get everybody's favorite moments from LHM!  sort of a
>greatest hits, as it were!

Ooo, Ooo, I just thought of another one. OK, it's not the most dramatic
or even memorable of the series, but I love the scene at the beginning of
MPromise when Van comes back from Karse and has that encounter with
Tantras. I know - no drama, no tears. I just love the way it points out
the changes that have occured in Van - he's gone from being an uncertain
Herald to a well-respected, even feared, member of the Circle. Ok. Like I
said...it's not dramatic.

>Psst!  Songbard!  I here you're new and unsplooshed.  Sorry we missed 
>you.  Come closer and I'll take care of that.  ::A flick of the hand and

>a bcuket appears in midair above his head.  It tips and clear, fresh 
> cascades down, like a waterfall.::  My, that was a bit 
>ostentation.  I'll be more modest next time.

Ok...I guess I asked for that <spits water out of mouth>


--<<SongBard>>--
Ex Actor, MBA-in-training, sword-weilding, yo-yo'ing fool-for-the-ages

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:42:56 -0400
From: efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Favorite Trilogy
Message-ID: <19980928.234257.15822.0.efluharty-+AT+-juno.com>

Hmmm....favorite trilogy, let me think...think, think, think,think,
think........  Van is great....Talia is great......I guess its a toss-up
(for me at least) between LHM and AoQ.
Because....(hope this makes sense)...I loved Van....(loved him enough to
wish I wasn't a woman living in the 20th century)....but, I identified
with Talia, (unloving parents..shunning....insecurities....), we are
sisters in a sense.

So there you go........

As far as those old what are you reading skits....I'll try to think back
to high school, (Noone bugs me about what I'm reading
anymore....adulthood can be so nice at times...)
The mist slowly fades....we see Ellen curled up in front of her physics
teacher's door reading....school has yet to start....students are slowly
making their way to their first classes of the day....it's quiet....very
quiet....and then....

Someone says, "HEY!  WHAT ARE YOU READING??????? 

Me:  (quietly) "A good book."

Someone:  "Yeah, but what is it?"

Me:  "Sentient beings shaped like horses team up with people and keep
their world           safe....there's love and usually, someone ends up
dying!!!!"

Someone:  "uh...o.k.....ummm...I guess you like it....."  This loud
obnoxious someone                       takes a step or two
back........(probably because of the way I enphasize the                 
      word "dying".

The end.....(Hey, the truth is enough.....)


Ellen shena Liha'irden
Lady in Green

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:06:27 -0500
From: "Tim & Tiffanie" <tntgray-+AT+-sprintmail.com>
To: "Misty List" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Old news
Message-ID: <006701bdeb5e$87d55440$e2b6bfa8-+AT+-tiffanie>

Hmm....not much to say and all of it old....


Lex:
>snip>but I didn't know that you could restore life though bardic magic or
wouldn't >Naitachal have done that for E... the white elf form book one if
it had been >possible?

Naitachal wasn't a bard then, he only learned about becoming a bard and
using bardic magic after that.

I always thought that the bardic magic used in the Bard's Tale series and
the Bardic magic used in the Bardic Voices books seemed very close in
nature.  I've always wondered if she used the BT books to work out how she
wanted the magic to work in the BV books.

********************
Welcome back Skyfire...I remember you.

*******************
L:
>The cover has Perenor and Terenil sword fighting in front of the Chinese
>Theater.  The faces are drawn oddly (kind of toothless looking).  Terenil
is
>in armor, but Perenor is wearing a suit and a hip sack.  The whole thing is
>just kind of... strange.

Yeah, Terenil looks 100 years old!  I don't mind the juxtaposition of
Perenor, who has learned to live in the modern world, and Terenil who is
still lost in the past wearing clothing/armor of their "century".  But the
hip bag is distracting and the scene dipicted didn't occur.  I also like the
dipiction of the Coca-cola can, being dropped and the feel that Terenil is
caught off guard because of it.
*******************
Chantal,

You inspired me, I'm going to try to draw the scene you mentioned about the
dusty Lute.
********************
As for favorite scenes, I am like my children, in that favorite means 10-20
different scenes, instead of 1 favorite.

Bright day and short night to all,

Dax the Eternal,
Goddess of Elves and Unicorns, Knight of Fluff,
Evangelist of Low Humor, Mistic Watcher of Continuity,
Councilor of Mist




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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:09:15 PDT
From: "StarFire K'Vaia" <darkjedi3-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: If you haven't read SWarning, skip this
Message-ID: <19980929040916.11289.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Well for the part with the gray drawings on the side, I got those ones, 
and yes on MPawn there is a naked women there... sorta, well she's 
covered up by her hair and some guys head.  Could it be Meleena or one 
of the other court girls perhaps? sure I know it sounds dumb but it 
could be.

StarFire K'Vaia


>Oh, lord, does that scene ever get me. I'm ok when Ulrich gets hit, I'm 
ok
>when Karal finds out he's dead (quick digression: English needs a 
better
>pronoun system; that phrase could be read as Karal finding out that 
Karal
>had died, grrrr), and when Kerowyn (I think) comes to him, but the 
scene
>with Altra just kills me.
>
>On the LHM cover art subject, I have the ones (don't know who the 
artist
>is) that are in black and silver, with the seasonal progressions on the
>cover, and the pictures being pretty much just of Van (although Yfandes
>gets in there too). Question: has anyone else noticed the little 
gray-tone
>drawings down the sides of the main picture in those? I've figured out
>what most of them are, but MPawn has what appears to be a naked woman
>among its drawings, and I can't figure that one out. (I could 
understand
>it on Promise, but on Pawn it just confuses me.) 
>
>That's all for now.
>
>Hating horrible homework,
>
>Becky
>Goddess of Oversleeping and Snide Comments
>
>
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>advised that, from time to time, it is invaded by Germany.
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:48:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: tristain-+AT+-lycosmail.com
To: Mercedes Lackey <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Can't read the emails!?
Message-ID: <199809291048.GAA11897-+AT+-web03.iname.net>

Hi,

Could anyone tell me why when I receive email from the list.  I can't read it.  I get a message that I need to download a reader?  What's happened?

Tristain

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:15:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kenneth Allen Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Infatuation with Vanyel/annoying people
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.9809291003180.24711-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Eaton W Thurman wrote:

> 	That's a little innacurate, but it IS the common view of N.A.'s so I
> won't hold it against ya <G>. 

Your nicer than my prof for North American Indian Anthropology was. =)
You should have heard him get going on the "popular" conception of Native
Americans. =)

> Of all the groups, the Shin'a'in most resemble the North American
> Plains tribes such as the Lakota, Pawnee, Oglala, etc.

Ironically, this is the group that Misty would have less personal
knowledge about.  The woman lives about an hour from Tsa-la-gi
and Tahlequah, the (historical and political) capitals of the Cherokee
Nation.  On the other hand, she might have been going for the popular
conception, because it would be more familiar to her readers.

> 	Also, on the fighting skills - many tribes were agrarian in
> nature, and even in those who weren't, it was more HUNTING skills than
> fighting skills that were praised.

Well, most of the Great Plains groups were not particularly agrarian,
although, certainly most of the groups around them were (Northeastern,
Southeastern, Southwestern, etc).  They were nomadic hunter/gatherers.  
And intertribal warfare was endemic to almost all the culture groups of
Native Americans.  The "wars" might not seem as impressive as our modern
idea of war (thousands and thousands of people involved, huge areas
devastated, populations decimated, etc), but they were definitely warlike.
Actually, I always thought that Misty had modeled the Shin'a'in on David
Eddings' Algars, who are clearly modeled on the Mongolians.  For one
thing, the Native American tribes, even on the Great Plains, didn't really
herd anything.  However, herding was a way of life for the Mongolian
peoples.  Plus, they had the whole complex tent thing going on.

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd
Councilor of Mist

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Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:58:20 PDT
From: "Rhiannon Shadowsong" <rhiannon13_-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Infatuation with Vanyel
Message-ID: <19980929185822.13100.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

::A mist of green enters the room and solidifies into Rhiannon, wearing 
not her usual silks and lace, but just a green tshirt, jeans, and 
all-stars.::  I haven't changed into my persona yet.  ::grins::

>I've been on the list, and haven't been splooshed yet!  Neener neener 
>neener!
>
>Jennifer M. Shultz

Hey!  for that you not only get thoroughly sploshed, you get sploshed 
with multiple buckets!
::Drifts in Jennifer's general directon, marshalling buckets that look 
for all the world like part of _Fantasia_: "the Sorcerer's 
Apprentice".::  NOW! ::She cries, and and the buckets splosh in one 
clean, smooth motion.::  I think I left a towel drying by the hearth a 
while back.  ::grins::

>Fluff!
>Hey! Missed me! I never got splooshed!  Ha. I think I just asked for 
>it.....

Yeppers you did.  ::Walks straight to Obsidian Rogue and physically 
dumps a bucket over her head.::  I'd do it more dramatically, but one 
bizarre bucket scene per post is plenty.  And, because it's so -+AT+-#$% hot 
down here, ::dumps a bucket on her own head.::  Ah so cool and 
refreshing.

My fav trilogy is LHM.  Van's story is so real to me somehow, and whil 
her later books are better written technically in some respects, LHM 
gets me emotionally, and that's what really makes a good book--one with 
a plot that grabs you and wrings you out emotionally.  I'm babbling, 
sorry.

I must go!  Evil Homework beckons with its leering grin of yellowed 
fangs, and claws dripping ichor...  I wonder what my English teacher 
would say if he saw that.  ::grins::

Wind to thy wings, 
Rhiannon Shadowsong the Stressed-Out
(I never should have asked for calculus)

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:16:47 EDT
From: Dancekbg-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Kory cover, LHM, fluff
Message-ID: <690d0553.36114e3f-+AT+-aol.com>

Rogue, you'll never learn will you?  :grin:......

All right, who's gonna sploosh her?

My personal favorite trilogy is LHM.  Shock shock shock.  The writing and
story lines are so good in that...plus, ya know, Van doesn't hurt...

My question: Would you list-sibs want to be Chosen?  I would, but I know a few
people who don't want the responsibility.

Sorry for the short post...

Windy

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:08:54 +0800
From: Silveyrna <silveyrna-+AT+-geocities.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <36113045.11938534-+AT+-geocities.com>

Has anyone noticed the difference in names between the Kaled'a'in and the Tayledras? Amberdrake, Silverfox, Winterhart... a lot of them have half
animal names. The Tayledras don't. And in LHM #2, (aaugh- what's the name of the kid?) the one who Van saved from some northern counry, his companions
was named Leshya, which is Kaled'a'in for spirit.Ok, so I reread the books too much. So I have no life.

> And I hate Larry Dixon. I just realized that.

LOL, look, he's bleeding!

> "A room without books is like a body without a soul." -Cicero

I like this quote! That reminds me, have to go clear out a shelf full of knick-knacks to make way for more
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ember <emerald_teardrop-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: fav trilogy/scene and covers (with fluff)
Message-ID: <19980929191715.24567.rocketmail-+AT+-send103.yahoomail.com>

::walks silently back into the room carrying a frosted cake in the
shape of a sheep and sets it down next to the cookies::
Sorry it took so long for the cake to get done.  I wanted to make sure
that I had enough for everyone.  Hope that you all enjoy it.


My favorite scene would have to be the one at the end of Arrows Fall. 
I had tears in my eyes at the end where Talia and Dirk were talking
and she showed him the gift she got for him.  As soon as she smelled
the perfume, saw the flowers, and realized who they were from I
couldn't keep it in any longer.  

I also like that trilogy (Arrows Trilogy)....It was the first of
Mercedes Lackey's writings that I ever read (yes, I got the ones with
the pink and purple cover).  I enjoyed it very much.  I just liked the
way she brought out the characters and made the world and the people
just come alive.

I've got a couple of favorite covers.  My first is the cover for By
The Sword.  I really liked how Kero's armor was done (even if it did
look a little un-armor like).  My other favorite was the cover for The
Fire Rose.  It was a very well done cover.  Nothing too gaudy and
nothing too simple.  Very Elegant.

As for LHM, it's been a while since I've read the trilogy (over a
year!..goodness).  I guess I better take it back off of the shelf and
re-read it, other wise I'd probably be talking about it right now.

::looks out into the mist saddly::

I must go into lurker mode for a while.  RL seems to have caught up
with me.  I will try and keep up as much as I can with the list.  

::pulls out some cheese for the ferrets::

Here you go.  It's from Wisconsin, where REAL CHEESE comes from.

::finds a sock in the cushion of her chair and hands it to Amy::

Umm Amy, is this yours?

Good day to you all and Wonderful, Happy, Fluffy, Colorful, Sweet
Sheep to everyone!!!


Ember




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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:53:20 PDT
From: "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Infatuation with Vanyel
Message-ID: <19980929225321.10498.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

<<<<and I say "Guards! Guards! Remove this infidel from the Royal 
Reading Room! And off with their heads while you're at it!!" >>>>

<<I actually said something along those lines once...  All I have to 
say,  is that being branded as " a freak of nature"  has its advantages.  
No  one asks stupid questions, and people look the other way when you 
stand  on chair swirling a cape saying "I am the Phantom of the Opera!"  
Not  that I would know....>>

Oh, being the local aberration is loads of fun. I'm my dorm's freak of 
nature--people still haven't gotten over my tendency to walk to 
class--and eat, and similar things--while reading... or do modified 
bunny hops down the sidewalk after getting compliments from Dr. 
Forstchen (William R., who write the Lost Regiment books and has also 
written a Wing Commander novel, and has done amusing things like get 
banned from the country of Russia under threat of imprisonment, or have 
expose`s written about him, entitled 'Newt's Satanic Coauthor') on my 
latest History paper... or get Quarter Pounders with Cheese Fed-Exed to 
me and walk back to my dorm singing Cheeseburger in Paradise... or break 
into whispered renditions of 'Electric Avenue' whenever the 'Electric 
Boogaloo' gag comes up in a MiSTing, and periodically double over the 
keyboard shaking with suppressed giggles at said MiSTings, no matter how 
many people are in the lab... or sing songs from Jekyll & Hyde at full 
volume (The best, especially since Montreat is a Christian college, are 
"Alive"--

"Tonight, I'll plunder Heaven blind, steal from all the gods!
Tonight, I'll take from all mankind, canquer all the odds!
And I feel I'l live on forever
With Satan himself by my side
And I'll show the world that tonight and forever
The name to remember's
The name Edward Hyde!"

--and "Good and Evil.")... and type like a demon without once looking at 
the screen or using home row keys.

<<Hmm, the naked chica on MPawn..  Perhaps the whore?  I can't think of 
anyone else it could possibly be.  Isn't there a white streak in the 
woman's hair?  Odd.>> 

I don't know... but unless I'm mistaken, there's a snake, and I'm not 
touching possible interpretations of *that* one.

<<I guess I'll just go whine to my bro about how my birthday is coming 
up in November...  That's how I got Owlflight!>>

Me, I'm going to wait until I get paid for work study and then order 
them both, and whine about Christmas to my father and grandparents in 
the hopes of turning up a refrigerator and TV/VCR.

Zha'hai'allav'a,
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Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves,
Card-Carrying Bitch,
Renegade Sarcastic Person,
Reluctant Romantic,
Member of the Mistic Circle,
Outrider and Bearer of the Darkblade,
Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes, Advocator of 
Eldan, Champion of Kethra and Hyllarr, and Devotee of Maclyn;
and Mor the raven, her familiar.

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:20:45 PDT
From: "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Leshya
Message-ID: <19980929232045.15596.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

<<And in LHM #2,>>

Magic's Promise. :)

<<(aaugh- what's the name of the kid?) the one who Van saved from some 
northern counry,>>

Tashir. :)

<<his companions was named Leshya, which is Kaled'a'in for spirit.>>

Leshya'e is Shin'a'in for spirit--leshya'e Kalenedral, mentioned in V&H 
and again in BTS when Kero first sees Ratha and Eldan. "k'Leshya" is the 
Tayledras name for the "lost Clan"--Treyvan and Hydona called it 
something along the lines of 'kena Leshyarse.' 

And I believe it was Yfandes that named Tashir's poor Companion Leshya, 
or Ghost.

Zha'hai'allav'a,
Raven Darkblade,
Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves,
Card-Carrying Bitch,
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Reluctant Romantic,
Member of the Mistic Circle,
Outrider and Bearer of the Darkblade,
Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes, Advocator of 
Eldan, Champion of Kethra and Hyllarr, and Devotee of Maclyn;
and Mor the raven, her familiar.

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:06:21 -0700
From: Peter Allen <minterra-+AT+-frontiernet.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Tarma's sexuality
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19980929200621.007ee3b0-+AT+-pop3.frontiernet.net>

SongBard wrote:

>>I seem to remember something in (was it BTS?) where Tarma implies that she wasn't just celibate, but was INCAPABLE of having any kind of sexual relations.<<

   I believe that this was actually more so shown in Oathbound, with Thalkarash, and also with that bard that always used to try to be with her. The price, well, one of them, that Tarma paid when she was vowed to the Goddess was that inside, there was absolutely nothing left in regards to sexual desire.
   Tarma confused this thought with that she wasn't able to get close in any other type of relationship with another person either. If you recall, the Goddess reminded her of this, in sort of a chiding manner, when she pleaded with her to let Kethry live after the Adept battle in... Oathbreakers, I believe.

Bright be thy day,

   Wintershard
   Councilor of Mist


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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:34:01 PDT
From: "Lady Sunhawk" <leapermuldervamp-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Kory cover, LHM, fluff
Message-ID: <19980930003403.3443.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Bright the day, listsibs,

>Hmmm.  The cover that I was talking about for B'sBard was drawn by this 
>Barclay Shaw guy.   And it's funny.....  that's why i made that crack 
>about the Spock ears (which personally, if done right, would be cool to 
>have).  Kory looks like a twit on LSD, and Eric and Beth look 
>somewhat... shall I put this delicately .... well, not quite how I had 
>imagined.  Sigh.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!<---count 'em:>  Beth is absolutely not like I imagined 
her....but I do have to feel for the artist, it is his personal 
interpretation....it can't possibly fit all of our veiwpoints.

>What's your favorite trilogy in Valdemar, and why?
Okay, I know I'm probably going to be the only one, but my favorite is 
the Winds trilogy, with LHM very very close behind.  Yes, the split 
veiwpoints in Winds is disconcerting and annoying, but I still really 
love the series.  And as for LHM, is explanation neccesary?

Peace,
Sunhawk, with Natha the salamandre

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:16:11 -0300
From: "Eleonora Scoseria" <eleonora-+AT+-infodynamics.com.uy>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Tarma's sexuality
Message-ID: <01bdec0f$e92013a0$ad7303cf-+AT+-equipo1>


>SongBard wrote:
>
>>>I seem to remember something in (was it BTS?) where Tarma implies that
she wasn't just celibate, but was INCAPABLE of having any kind of sexual
relations.<<


and Wintershard added:

>   I believe that this was actually more so shown in Oathbound, with
Thalkarash, and also with that bard that always used to try to be with her.
The price, well, one of them, that Tarma paid when she was vowed to the
Goddess was that inside, there was absolutely nothing left in regards to
sexual desire.
>   Tarma confused this thought with that she wasn't able to get close in
any other type of relationship with another person either. If you recall,
the Goddess reminded her of this, in sort of a chiding manner, when she
pleaded with her to let Kethry live after the Adept battle in...
Oathbreakers, I believe.

Yep! That's one of my fave scenes in all of Misty, when the Goddess heals
Kethry while showing Tarma that being kalenedral means being without
*desire* but not without *feeling*.

There are several instances but I don't have textevd handy, where Tarma
explains how her link to the Goddess basically makes her unable to feel
desire.
Tarma also refers to her hug and exchange of emotions with Roald as
completely non sexual.

Thought I'd add my .02.

Peace,

Ele
Councilor of Mist



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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:19:28 -0400
From: "Old Nicodemus" <cdi-+AT+-se-tel.com>
To: "Misty" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Fav trilogy
Message-ID: <000001bdec10$5e907800$294d82d0-+AT+-oldnic>

What's your favorite trilogy in Valdemar, and why?

Ooo, this is weird. Ok. Any trilogy where the Talaydras(sp?) and or the
Shin'a'in are prominantly featured almost always turns out to be my
favorite. As to why?? Hmmmm...just fascination with their culture? As a tie
in to the ...what was it?? nationalities thread??...Ive always imagined the
Shin'a'in as being Mongol-like (one of the reason why I really like the
cover of the V&H pbs) while the Hawkbrothers have always come across as
being a wild mix of feudal japanese and native american, with the N.A. being
more dominant. <g>

Wish me luck sibs Im finishing a background for a certain pic Im getting
ready to send to Valdemar's Heartstone. Hopefully theyll like it enough
toplace on the site..and hopefully any viewers will like it also. <blush>


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"...Then all of us declared/that we were not prepaired/to dance our
lives away with Elsie Marley/for we'd heard another tune/From the
harvest of the Moon/That rides upon the wind that shakes the barley."


--"The Wind That Shakes the Barley", Steeleye Span

Old Nicodemus
ALOOFF, Leader of the Rats of the Delta Quadrant,
Si-Silver, Champion and Holy Avenger of the Goddess
of Elves and Unicorns
Knight of Fluff, Member of the Order of Light Warriors
One In Black




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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:30:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Hobbs Tina <thobbs-+AT+-thomas.butler.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: favorite scene / RL / Fluff
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980929190117.18638A-100000-+AT+-thomas.butler.edu>


fluff************************************************************************
A lizard-like creature hurries out of the shadows.  She carries a huge
stack of towels for wet newbies, robes for people who want to lounge in
the hot springs, and a number of *goodie* selections.

Yes, I can make baklava, and I make it very well, thank you. *g*  And for
my favorite rat, have a five-alarm chili that will curl your tail. LOL

Sorry it has been so long since my last posting, RL sucks great big
lemons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   <- count them if you dare.
I hope that someone has been handing out towels and warm robes.

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My favorite LHM scene, well it is hard to pick just one.  Let's see...
Sorry in advance for non-text, :-)
At the end of part III when the tree in Sorrows is growing around the 
lute.  When Van battles the evil mage in the Tayledras' (sp) territory, he
knows that he can get one final strike in but that it would kill him, but
he does it anyway.  (I get chills)
When stays Jervis to help and winds up pulling Van through the gate.
When Van stands up to his father for the first time, when he is healing
from 'Lendel's death.

I also like the song Shadow Stalker that is included in one of the LHM
publications.  The events of the song aren't in the book (at least, not
that I know of) but the song is one of my favorites.  When I think of Van,
I almost always think of that song.

Tilyn, nameless no more
aka tina

:-) 

Merry meet, merry part, merry meet, again.





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