MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1751 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Serrated by stormdancer-+AT+-mindspring.com 2) Re: Hey to Elsa and 'Lendel/Stef. by efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty) 3) Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. by Tylendel Dotzauer 4) Re: Hey to Elsa and 'Lendel/Stef. by Tylendel Dotzauer 5) WYOMING GAY BASHING VICTIM MATTHEW SHEPARD PRONOUNCED DEAD by Tylendel Dotzauer 6) Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. by Amber Bay 7) Re: a M.L. question on books by Lynne Walker 8) RE: Braid of Dirk/Kris/Talia, MOC, and Fluff by Lynne Walker 9) Re: by Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com 10) Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. by Tylendel Dotzauer 11) Re: by Tylendel Dotzauer 12) Re: Infatuation with Vanyel by MacFey 13) Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. by "Rhiannon Shadowsong" 14) Re: HELLO ALL!!! about being chosen... by MacFey 15) Re: newbie alert by MacFey 16) Kudos owlflight by MacFey 17) Re: braid by MacFey 18) Stef/Matthew Shepard/Dax/LHM/short fluff~FIN~ by "Nelson Greenslade" 19) Re: a M.L. question on books by Greg Wooledge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:43:35 +0000 From: stormdancer-+AT+-mindspring.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Serrated Message-ID: <199810131344.JAA09163-+AT+-camel7.mindspring.com> Stormdancer chuckles at Amber. "You know, I had that same thought..Tannim in that bed.. Now that's a delicious fantasy" Seriously, the first book about Tannim is Born to Run. He's also mentioned in High Jinx (but not by name). I haven't been able to find a copy of Elvendude or Bedlam's Boyz around here, but I've heard they're pretty good. I'll just have to keep looking. Blessings, Stormdancer & Virr *Siochain Ar Talamh* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:33:05 -0400 From: efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hey to Elsa and 'Lendel/Stef. Message-ID: <19981013.103306.14318.0.efluharty-+AT+-juno.com> Heyla Listsibs, Kalen wrote: [Sorry this is a downer but I heard this morning that a gay student was killed in Wyoming{sp?} this week because of his sexuality. This has really got me in a negative mood. I just do not understand bigots :o( ] Gods, that incident made me feel so sick inside. The poor kid had gone off to study abroad just after he came to terms with his own sexuality, and when he finally comes home, (hoping to be accepted back into his community,) some bastards pistolwhip him and leave his body tied to a fence. What did he do to them? Why is there so much hate? I grow older, thinking as I do, I might find answers....but there don't seem to be any.....I know that there are good people around, (our little group for instance), so why can't love rule? Argh.....I'm sorry, I just want to complain...sometimes I just want to scream at everyone until they listen.....but they wouldn't listen, I would just be branded insane and nicely locked up somewhere. I don't know.....sorry...... Ellen shena Liha'irden Lady in Green ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:33:54 -0400 From: Tylendel Dotzauer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013103354.006ad9e0-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu> At 07:29 AM 10/13/98 +0100, you wrote: >I thought that Stefan/Lendel business was a bit smarmy. It's with the second >book the character Vanyell realizes the reason he can love is because he can >care. I thought Vanyell's growth at that moment was terrific. Then ML decides >to reward him with Stephan. It was too cute, defiantly. > >MO:) hmmm... i have to reread the 2nd and 3rd books.. it's been years since I've read them... Vanyel, of course, was terrific throughout all the books... but Stephan... I don't know how much of a reward that was for Van. More like throwing the spirit of his dead lifebonded back at him inside a little sex-driven child. Bah. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:46:47 -0400 From: Tylendel Dotzauer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hey to Elsa and 'Lendel/Stef. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013104647.006ae8ec-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu> >"E. Clayton" wrote >>i dunno. dont get me wrong im VERY happy how >> it all turned out. maybe im just a cynic cuz i dont got my lendel >>right now: > >Well If you are a cynic I don't know what makes me. I really liked >'Lendel and I thought Stef was a real good character also. I'm a >Romantic [capital R], so the idea of love returning from death >struck something in that side of my character, but after events of >this year I'm at a stage where I believe that love only causes pain. >Looking back over LHM it is shown there also: >1]Gala loved 'Lendel but after he went insane she killed herself >2] 'Lendels love for Gala brought him back from the brink and then >he killed himself because of the loss. >3] 'Lendels suicide caused Van to try and kill himself and then to >shut out any other person who tried to get close to him. > >This is all JMHO. Don't let is cynical old Queen like me influence >how you feel. Okay. ;-) I grant you that the idea was very romantic... I just loved 'Lendel so damn much... :'( >[Sorry this is a downer but I heard this morning that a gay student >was killed in Wyoming{sp?} this week because of his sexuality. >This has really got me in a negative mood. I just do not understand >bigots :o( ] Yes, that's true... I recommend to everyone to look around in your communities for any candlelight vigils being held in his honor. If there's anyone out there in the Columbus, Ohio area there is one being held out at the Statehouse at 10pm with the Stonewall Union tonight. I got a press release of what happened... I'll move it along here in a second... -Ty Dotzauer http://www.geocities.com/paris/lights/8308 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:48:43 -0400 From: Tylendel Dotzauer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: WYOMING GAY BASHING VICTIM MATTHEW SHEPARD PRONOUNCED DEAD Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013104843.006ae8ec-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu> I don't mean to depress anyone, I'm just trying to spread the word... -ty >X-Sender: bgala-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:37:46 -0400 >X-PH: V4.4-+AT+-mail3 >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >From: "B-GALA (Bisexual Gay and Lesbian Alliance)" >Subject: WYOMING GAY BASHING VICTIM MATTHEW SHEPARD PRONOUNCED DEAD > >>________________________________________________________ >> >>NEWS from the >>Human Rights Campaign >> >>919 18th Street, NW, Suite 800 >>Washington, DC 20006 >>email: hrc-+AT+-hrc.org >>http://www.hrc.org >>________________________________________________________ >> >> >>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >>Monday, October 12, 1998 >> >> >>WYOMING GAY BASHING VICTIM MATTHEW SHEPARD PRONOUNCED DEAD >>HRC Mourns The Loss Of Brave Student Who Stood Up To Intolerance >> >>WASHINGTON -- Matthew Shepard, 21, the gay University of Wyoming student >>who was savagely attacked Thursday night, burned, and left to die for up to >>18 hours tied to a wooden fence outside Laramie, 30 miles northwest of >>Cheyenne, was pronounced dead this morning. >> "With a profound sense of sorrow we mourn the death of Matthew >>Shepard. We are deeply saddened by this tragedy and we offer our thoughts >>and prayers to the Shepard family," said HRC Executive Director Elizabeth >>Birch. >> Shepard died while on life support. He had been in a coma since he >>was found on Thursday by passing motorcyclists. Wyoming's Republican >>Governor Jim Geringer called on state legislators to adopt laws to deter >>crimes against lesbians and gay men. >> "We are calling on all the people to have a renewed discussion to >>find out what we might do to strengthen our laws. I'm open to any >>suggestion that we might bring to our legislature," said Gov. Geringer to >>the Associated Press. >> Two men, Russell Arthur Henderson, 21, and Aaron James McKinney, >>whose age is unconfirmed, were charged with kidnaping aggravated robbery, >>and attempted first degree murder and held on $100,000 bond. University of >>Wyoming student, Chastity Vera Pasley, 20 and Kristen Leann Price, 18, >>were charged as accessories to the crime. Price was released on $30,000 >>bond and Pasely is still in jail in lieu of the same amount of money. >> "Matthew was not very large, at 5'2" 110 pounds, but he had a big >>heart and was extremely brave. He had the courage to live honestly and >>openly in less than ideal circumstances. Unfortunately, like many gay men >>and lesbians, there is often a high price to pay for living a life of >>dignity and respect," said HRC political director Winnie Stachelberg. >> The Human Rights Campaign is the nation's largest national lesbian >>and gay political organization, with members throughout the country, >>effectively lobbies Congress, provides campaign support, and educates the >>public to ensure that lesbian and gay Americans can be open, honest, and >>safe at home, at work, and in the community. >> >> - 30 - >> >> >> >___________________________________________________ >Jared Lilly - Co-Chair >Bisexual, Gay and Lesbian Alliance >The Ohio State University >http://www.ohio-state.edu/students/bgala/ >bgala-+AT+-osu.edu > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Amber Bay To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. Message-ID: 'kay, i just needed to put up my defense for poor stef... so many people have been writing lately that they think that stef is a sex-crazed child, who was not worthy of vanyel....now, i love 'lendel also....i was not happy when he killed himself off the bell tower....however, i do NOT agree with the fact that stef was a sex-crazed child....currently, i AM rereading MPrice....perhaps, in the beginning it started out as something remotely like a conquest...but remember, Van was stef's idol....how many times have you guys "lusted" over some t.v. star or idol...i know i have....but then, i think it turns into something more...one scene that always gets me is when stef and medren are in their room talking and stef is nearly pulling his hair out....he says how he's celibate now because he doesn't want anyone else...he says he's never happier than when he's in the prescence of VAn....perhaps this "hunting" of Van stems from the fact that stef has realized the lifebond and van is ignoring it....something vaguely similar to dirk and talia...and later, stef tells vanyel that they only way he knows how to show his love towards vanyel is through sex...i believe that after that point, stef doesn't become a "i want sex" character...i think half of that was his desparate want for the lifebond to be realized....once it's realized, the relationship turned into something else... i don't know if this makes any sense whatsoever....it's just that i loved the character of stef just as much as the character of 'lendel...just as stef wasn't perfect, 'lendel wasn't perfect....if anyone can add to my argument, please do so....if anyone disagrees with my argument, tell me, but tell me why.... hmmm, gotta go and do my econ homework.... ~Ice (hey, tylendel douzer (sorry, can't remember the last name)...you mentioned columbus, ohio....i live in dublin ohio, a half hour away, and go to school in bowling green ohio, which is about two hours away....does this mean you live in ohio...please say it does!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:58:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Walker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: a M.L. question on books Message-ID: <19981013165842.11512.rocketmail-+AT+-send204.yahoomail.com> Skywolf wrote: > ANYWAY there's still no answer on my questions... so I'm wondering if > anyones actually reading this.. but I think that's just the bad mood > talking. So, this time I'll put it in caps. > > DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THE LEVAN (sp?) FIRESTORM BOOK COMING OUT? I COULD > HAVE SWORN I HEARD A TIB BIT ABOUT IT..... > I'm reading! Just got Owlflight in pb and in the front, where they list the upcoming ML books, Brightly Burning is listed, but after about 3 more of the rewrites of fairy tales (judging by the titles) Hope this helps! Lady Starlight (soon to be hopefully) Goddess of Masques == "Just Breathe..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Walker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: RE: Braid of Dirk/Kris/Talia, MOC, and Fluff Message-ID: <19981013170312.13810.rocketmail-+AT+-send204.yahoomail.com> Old Nicodemus wrote: > Do any of you remember the name of those poor twisted parodies of Gryphons > that Ma'ar created?? > Were they intelligent? (I doubt it being creations of the Lifestealer) They were named Makaar and AFAIR, they were intelligent enought to work out strategies for fighting gryphons but they were not able to reproduce on their own. Once Ma'ar "died" they probably died out. Sorry for the double & triple postings, but I don't know how to braid in Yahoo. Can anyone help???? Lady Starlight (soon to be hopefully) Goddess of Masques == "Just Breathe..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:19:53 EDT From: Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Message-ID: If one person is going to send a lot of messages, I suggest they be braided. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:55:23 -0400 From: Tylendel Dotzauer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013135523.006a8de4-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu> At 06:46 PM 10/13/98 +0100, you wrote: > >'kay, i just needed to put up my defense for poor stef... > >so many people have been writing lately that they think that stef is a >sex-crazed child, who was not worthy of vanyel....now, i love 'lendel >also....i was not happy when he killed himself off the bell >tower....however, i do NOT agree with the fact that stef was a sex-crazed >child....currently, i AM rereading MPrice....perhaps, in the beginning it >started out as something remotely like a conquest...but remember, Van was >stef's idol....how many times have you guys "lusted" over some t.v. star >or idol...i know i have....but then, i think it turns into something >more...one scene that always gets me is when stef and medren are in their >room talking and stef is nearly pulling his hair out....he says how he's >celibate now because he doesn't want anyone else...he says he's never >happier than when he's in the prescence of VAn....perhaps this "hunting" >of Van stems from the fact that stef has realized the lifebond and van is >ignoring it....something vaguely similar to dirk and talia...and later, >stef tells vanyel that they only way he knows how to show his love towards >vanyel is through sex...i believe that after that point, stef doesn't >become a "i want sex" character...i think half of that was his desparate >want for the lifebond to be realized....once it's realized, the >relationship turned into something else... >i don't know if this makes any sense whatsoever....it's just that i loved >the character of stef just as much as the character of 'lendel...just as >stef wasn't perfect, 'lendel wasn't perfect....if anyone can add to my >argument, please do so....if anyone disagrees with my argument, tell me, >but tell me why.... It makes sense... like I said, I need to reread Magic's Price myself... it's been awhile since I've read that. so I'm a little more biased towards 'Lendel because I'm more acquainted with him. I don't know. From what I remember of Magic's Price... it didn't seem like Stef's character was really developed, it just rode on the fact that it was 'Lendel reincarnated to make him a lovable character. I'm not saying I outright *hated* Stef... I just love 'Lendel so much more... :-) >(hey, tylendel douzer (sorry, can't remember the last name)...you >mentioned columbus, ohio....i live in dublin ohio, a half hour away, and >go to school in bowling green ohio, which is about two hours >away....does this mean you live in ohio...please say it >does!!!) Yep...I'm a freshman at Ohio State... and I lived in Worthington all my life previously... small world, eh? :-) -ty dotzauer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:28:54 -0400 From: Tylendel Dotzauer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013142854.006aaf90-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu> At 06:55 PM 10/13/98 +0100, you wrote: >If one person is going to send a lot of messages, I suggest >they be braided. how do you do that? :-) my apologies.. I'm new... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:49:04 -0700 (PDT) From: MacFey To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Infatuation with Vanyel Message-ID: <19981013184904.22879.rocketmail-+AT+-send101.yahoomail.com> E Gads have I been gone only two weeks????? about 400 messages in the inbox so if I'm behind or slow please be patient, I will catch up.... now that the apologizing is over.... ---Femmy Syahrani wrote: > >1. What's your favorite scene in LHM? (I'm thinking the part when > >they're at Vanyel's home, and Stefen slides the bolt on the door behind > >Vanyel - definitely one of _my_ favorites!) > Ah.. my favorite scene... from LHM the first book... is when Van's pop comes to get him at Havens and he's drugged and outside with Yfrandes... "you heard I've been playing ewe to 'Lendels Ram." I loved it! So many times I've actually wanted to say that to someone! hehehehe... == I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Wind To Thy Wings.... MacFey _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:19:19 PDT From: "Rhiannon Shadowsong" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: short fluff, braid of things I just now read. Message-ID: <19981013191922.8501.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Elsa: ><post. *rolls eyes*>> > No, as in the Herald who was strong in Fire Talent and consumed himself >and his Companion in flames in a tragic final strike for the good of >Valdemar. > And it's _Brightly Burning_ for the book title, "Tyger, tyger burning >bright" for the poem. I think that was refering to _Tiger Burning Bright_, by Misty, Andre Norton and MZBradley. Not that that matters and was realy relevant or anything. >P.S. Anyone who read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy : a trilogy in >five parts, think bak and telll me if it seems like the book is almost like >some crazy dream, k? Yeah, it did remind me of one of my more surreal dreams. I'm one of those people who never has normal dreams. Some people dream that something interesting happened to them at school, or they rode a bus. I tend to dream that I'm at my happily public school wearing my catholic school uniform, and I'm running around hollering "laugh while you can, monkey boy!" Or something equally strange. Lets talk about strange dreams! (with obmistys tacked on the end of the post, of course) Amber/Stasia: >and TANNIM in Tannim's bed... Oh, how I was wishing I was Shar!> Me too. Nuff said. Actually, I have more to say. I know a guy with a bed similar to that. No little fridge, but it is huge and has shelves everywhere. Its also jet black and about 3 feet tall cuz of the huge piles of blankets and pillows. Now, if I could only Brandon were a little less egotistical and a little more attractive... oh well. I suppose I'll never be in The Bed. Ty: >I don't know about anyone else... >but I was almost offeneded by Stefan's character. that, >but I still think that Stefan sucked. 'Lendel's the man. I was the opposite. Lendel irritated me, I guess because he put Staven and other parts of his life before Van. Or maybe he just rubbed me the wrong way; I often develop unreasonable dislikes for people and characters, so my irritation my be illogical and have no reasons. Anyway, I really liked Stefen. He seemed so real to me, and he loved Vanyel much more than Lendel did, I think. Yeah, he just wanted to get in bed with Van *at first* but Van was very attractive. And Stef was just the right age to be very hormonal. Then he started getting obessessive, and he really grew up during the short time he and Van were together. I think that's what bothers me- Stef grew up, Lendel didn't. Dax asked what we'd do if we found our selves in a fantasy universe or in a fantastical situation... Been there done that! At least I think so- it may have been a hallucination. But I'm pretty sure I saw faeries. I day dream daily about meeting elves. I think I'd wonder about my sanity.. But I wouldn't try to avoid the craziness-I'd embrace it! Sometimes I wonder if Valdemar really does exist, somewhere, somewhen. I think one of my hobbies when I've studied enough science is to figure out ways to time travel. Then maybe I'll pull a _Number of the Beast_ (Heinlein) and spend the rest of my life as a tourist in alternate universes. That would be fun. Now you know what I'm really thinking about in Calculus.... ::A woman in black silks floats to Kalen:: I know how you feel, ke'chara. ::Quick hug:: I tried to get my dad to read LHM and discovered he was really bigoted. It was weird... he's just so liberal in every other way. It just never occured to me that he'd be a homophobe. ::shrugs:: You never really get used to it, but you get to where you can cope after a while. Well, I've gotta go. I have to do a calculus lab today, so I have to go back to the school and goof off in the computer labs.. Wind to thy wings, Rhiannon Shadowsong Elf-Girl Mage-in-Training Friend to Fairies ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: MacFey To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: HELLO ALL!!! about being chosen... Message-ID: <19981013205656.19892.rocketmail-+AT+-send103.yahoomail.com> Hey... I'd like that. Link me up please! macfey ---SXorceress-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > > there's a site on the Official QUeen's Own requirements of being chosen...I'll > link you, if you ask me too, all right? But to be chosen officially, you must > be in the QUeen's Own club, wich is largely a snail mail thing, plus the fee, > and the restrictions, and the no-nos and the please contributes, and the > sillions and tons of junk mail that they send to you about byuing things that > areen't even related to Heralds. That's why IM not joining. > Here's some non related, but sort of realted stuff.... > I think I might help and co host this thing that's LIKE being chosen, cept not > quite. You're not Heralds, youre KNights, and you don't have companions, you > have something else, and tehre are different CoLoUrS of knights, i.e, > green=nature and elements, Blue+harmony and water, and white=purity and such > and such. See? if you want, I can link you to that site, and you can join. > not many requirements, no snail mail, no junk mail, no fees, just a > questionare and a thingy that you have to fill out. its really easy. I had > to do it too! LOL. AS far as I can tell, there are LOTS of openings, cause > this is fairly new, but so far, really well set up... thanks, > the ~S!~ > Lady Dusk > == I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Wind To Thy Wings.... MacFey _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:01:33 -0700 (PDT) From: MacFey To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: newbie alert Message-ID: <19981013210133.27790.rocketmail-+AT+-send102.yahoomail.com> Hayla!!! Speaking of floundering >))));) count me in! Nathanial, we have something in common... when I told my fav teacher about my personal problems he gave me LHM to read, so I could have a role model to look up to. Helped me out much.... macfey ---Jac ! wrote: > > Hiya ! > > My name is Jac, I'm new too :) > I tend to get confused at times also, so I guess we can flounder around > together :) > > ~Jac > > > >I am a new guy on the totem pole, so I will let you all know a little > bit > >about me, > >I am 21, live in Arkansas, and was introduced to Misty's writing about > 6 years > >ago when I was deciding to come out to m7y parents, i had been told to > read > >LHM to help myself get a grip on myself, and to better understand > myself and > >my feelings, that is why i love Misty's writing so much, plus I guess I > really > >connected with Vanyel a lot. BTW may I ask a question, since i am a > newbie > >and all, what are all these abbreviations that everyone is using? I am > in the > >dark here, please help. Thanks guys and Gals > > > >Nathaniel Gothwell > >Herald-In-Training > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > == I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Wind To Thy Wings.... MacFey _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) From: MacFey To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Kudos owlflight Message-ID: <19981013211412.17895.rocketmail-+AT+-send104.yahoomail.com> ---Alexia/Sabrina wrote: > > > > Anyway, it wasn't as sad or as emotionally gripping at all as some of the > others... but it was a very good read- really caught you up and it FLOWED so > well... and I didn't find myself getting bored which I have in other > books... I just thought it was mainly a lot of fun and yes, it wasn't nearly > as sad but that was good... a nice break after arrows! > > Anyway... > > Alexia > > This book was actually on a reading list for a public school (yes they put new books on their list) and was being read by a 8th grader.... what a great introduction to the entire world of Vladimar!!! Kudos! == I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Wind To Thy Wings.... MacFey _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: MacFey To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: braid Message-ID: <19981013212355.350.rocketmail-+AT+-send1d.yahoomail.com> ---Rhiannon Shadowsong wrote: > > > Anyway, sorry so short. I took the SAT this morning, and I finished > every single section with 10-15 min to spare. And will they let me pull > out a book to read? No. I get to stare at the noisy pepsi machines > they seated me next to. Bah. next time doodle bad pictures in the margins of the booklets it drives the people who have to double check them crazy.... especially the math sections. == I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Wind To Thy Wings.... MacFey _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:23:57 -0300 From: "Nelson Greenslade" To: "Misty" Subject: Stef/Matthew Shepard/Dax/LHM/short fluff~FIN~ Message-ID: <018b01bdf6f4$65cf9d00$e493b3cf-+AT+-epzfbrwg> Eesh, in one night you guys produced so much quality material that I'm afraid this will be a rather lengthly letter. ^_^;; Sorry for the inconveniance, but it's your fault!! ^_~ First off I approach the topic of Stefen. A few snippets from the comments of others: <> --ty <> --eric < Then ML decides to reward him with Stephan. It was too cute, defiantly.>> --MO:) <> --Kalen <<'kay, i just needed to put up my defense for poor stef...>> --~Ice I agree with Ice, especially about the scene with Stef tearing his hair out. I loved both Tylendel and Stefen for the joy they brought Vanyel, and for their own unique senses of humor, honor, etc. Stef wasn't just Van's second chance at love and sort of something to sweeten what the gods knew where his last months, to keep Van from dying alone and afraid after he had served them and his people so long and well. Stef was 'Lendel's second chance: for forgiveness, for happiness, for making amends. In killing himself Tylendel did a great disservice to his country by depriving them of a powerful protector, and while it resulted in the Awakening of another, that other was still caught in the stage between child and adult, and wholly dependant on 'Lendel for his emotional support and stability. Tylendel also did Van a great wrong, as his suicide forced him to live a very lonely life. Sure, I understand that's not how it had to be, but that's how it was. Coming back as Stef was about the only way he could obtain forgiveness -- not from Vanyel, whom he knew had never blamed him, and not from any greater Power, who had know from the start what his eventual fate would be once he decended into madness, but from himself. He abandoned his lifemate, his love-bonded, the missing half of his soul. Tylendel was a very responsible person. The man he'd been growing into knew that he had to make things right, and dream-sendings only caused Van more pain. Besides, Stef went on to become a great asset to his people. If he were so sex-starved he would never have remained true to Van, and as for as we know he didn't go on to become infamous for his liasons, now did he. He remembered Vanyel for Valdemar, and that was his legacy, unfortunately out of sight until Van's barrier fell. Me thinks that's all I have to say about that. <> I know just how you feel, Ellen. Bigotry always gives me the queasy sensation of nest of snakes writhing and winding around in my stomach. It has a taste, like cold lead on your tongue and jammed in your throat. I don't know if there will be any official candlelight vigils here, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who shed a tear and said a silent prayer to whatever power to speed Matthew's spirit to whatever peace he may find. I live in what is known as "The gay capital of New Brunswick", but even so prejudice against non-heterosexual people can be found. It makes me very sad, and cynical about the human race. *snif* But hey, there's still hope. Most of the people on this list are... well, the word isn't really tolerant. Accepting? So long as a few people know it's bloody well WRONG to hurt or kill someone because of their views, color, or orientation (among other things) there is still hope for the world. Congrats, Dax, on three years on the list! I personally have no idea how long I've been here for, but your topic seems awfully familiar.... <> Well, when I look back on the stories (sorry for my earlier mispellings: I was typing very fast) it reminds me of one of those really strange dreams where everything suddenly changes, but it all seems to make sense, er, y'know? I just wish I could manage forgetting to hit bottom when I fall.... <> Yes, it is, which is probably why I read the LHM series when I fell like having a really good cry, but I think it's important to remember the underlying theme of love -- for your soulmate, your family, your friends, and just your fellow man -- is really stressed with Vanyel, as well as many other of Misty's characters. Like Spiderman says: "With great power comes great responsibility." Kalen, I'm sorry to hear that your year has been, well, depressing, I guess. I've been there myself, but there's no need to bore you with the morose details. I just want to send out the message that if anyone out there has a problem, I'm willing to listen. Sometimes just talking can help. I'm going to go write to my friend about how miserable my day was without her. Well, that's not as long as I'd thought. I guess I have time for fluff, so if you don't wanna read it, you could pretty much go on to the next letter now. ~~~~~~SHORT FLUFF~~~~~~ Elsa stalks in, looking angry and on the verge of tears. She zig-zags haphazardly across the Hall, launches a viscious physical assault on a stout pillar, sticks her head underwater in a pool and screams her lungs out in frustration, then shuffles, dripping, to the OIB encampment in hopes of finding vast amounts of food. "See what happens when I get really hungry?" she asks a passing sheep. ~~~~~~END FLUFF~~~~~~ Elsa One In Black, Knight of Fluff, Member of the Order of Drifting Ashes, OoUH Champion of Jonne, Moonbeam, and Iceshadow, and caller of monsters "His eyes were cold. As cold as the bitter winter snow that was falling outside. Yes, cold and therefore difficult to chew." "SHOP OR DIE, people of Earth! [offer void where prohibited.]" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:37:03 -0400 From: Greg Wooledge To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: a M.L. question on books Message-ID: <19981013183703.A25812-+AT+-phoenix.local> Tylendel Dotzauer (dotzauer.4-+AT+-osu.edu) wrote: > The SAT sucks. I really don't see how they can use a test that *pointless* > to base your college entrance status. College admissions are based on many factors; ACT and SAT test scores are only two factors. (Different colleges will weigh the different factors differently....) While the ACT is primarily a test of one's knowledge, the SAT is more of an intelligence test. It tests reasoning ability, the ability to see patterns, and so forth -- in addition to mathematical knowledge and English vocabulary. In fact, Mensa allows admission based on SAT scores, if you're within the top 2%, since it is partially an IQ test. (My own scores were 780 Math and 680 Verbal. That qualified for Mensa's admission last time I checked, around 1990. But I don't remember what the cut-off point was.) I'm not a strong believer in intelligence tests, however. There are a lot of people who are *very* smart who just don't do well on written tests. And there are a lot of people who do well on written tests, but who can't necessarily apply that level of skill to other areas of life. I tend to do very well on written tests -- dunno why, but I can usually spot trick questions a mile away, and I often think better when I'm holding a pen/pencil, even if I don't actually write anything.[1] I'm also extremely analytical (a "nitpicker" sometimes), which helps on that sort of a test. So my SAT scores may not reflect any true measure of my abilities on anything other than taking SAT tests. ;-) [1]I've also learned to substitute a computer and keyboard in much the same way. In high school -- which was 1984-1988 for me, a time when word processing was still in its infancy -- I began by writing out essays with pencil and paper and then typing them up. Later, I learned to skip the pencil/paper step altogether and go straight to the keyboard and start writing. Shortly after that my handwriting started to deteriorate quite a bit.... ;-) Rhiannon Shadowsong (rhiannon13_-+AT+-hotmail.com) wrote: > Dax asked what we'd do if we found our selves in a fantasy universe or > in a fantastical situation... > > Been there done that! At least I think so- it may have been a > hallucination. But I'm pretty sure I saw faeries. I day dream daily > about meeting elves. I think I'd wonder about my sanity.. No, that doesn't make you insane at all. It means you have a healthy imagination. ;-) I don't usually "invite" myself into fantasy books -- although I've been known to do that on occasion. More often I do the opposite -- I daydream of what would happen if certain characters were suddenly transported into *my* world. ObMisty: I think the last Misty character I've "invited" into my world was... uh... Kerowyn. I don't remember the details, though -- like a dream, it's usually hard/impossible to remember months/years later. -- "Daddy, why do those people have to | Greg Wooledge use Microsoft Windows?" | wooledge-+AT+-kellnet.com "Don't stare, son; it's not polite." | http://www.kellnet.com/wooledge/ ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1751 **********************************