MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1754 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) realms of imagination/dreams/who?/fluff the end =) by "Nelson Greenslade" 2) fluff/companions by "* Winddancer *" 3) RE: Serrated by "Zdunczyk, Ann Eleanor (Ann)" 4) Re: Braid attempt. by Amber Bay 5) Re: WYOMING GAY BASHING VICTIM MATTHEW SHEPARD PRONOUNCED DEAD by "Tea'la S." 6) RE: Stefen by "Morgaine" 7) RE: braid by "Morgaine" 8) Another from the Mistress of Extreme Longwindedness (or is that title taken already?) by Silveyrna 9) 'Lendel's fault.... by Tatjana Schwabe 10) me back by "Angie" 11) All sorts braid by "Alexia/Sabrina" 12) RE: Another from the Mistress of Extreme Longwindedness (or is that title taken already?) by "Old Nicodemus" 13) Re: MATTHEW SHEPARD and fluff by Amy Trujillo 14) Re: 'Lendel's fault.... by "HEUBERGER KATRIN" 15) Tai's introduction by HEUBERGER KATRIN 16) Lots o' stuff by "Rhiannon Shadowsong" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:31:07 -0300 From: "Nelson Greenslade" To: "Misty" Subject: realms of imagination/dreams/who?/fluff the end =) Message-ID: <022a01bdf7d8$3b8042e0$8ff1a4c6-+AT+-epzfbrwg> *sighs* So many things to reply to, so little time to write it all before I forget what I wanted to say! <> I have more worlds than I can keep track of. I also do crossovers between stories I like and many of my "worlds" cover several dimensions. I also put myself in place settings from books. Once, long before several mages came and beat the concept of "copyright violations" and "demon-lawyers" into my head, I attempted to write a story about a girl who was transported from our world onto the Dhorisha Shin'a'in (pre-Tarma). It didn't go over well, and it resulted in a confusing airport scene and the beginning of a story about a girl living on the streets of Toronto. <> I'm not trying to steal the spotlight, ni honto, but someone ~did~ ask for dreams... I woke up one morning and dreamt that I'd had a very long and meaningful talk with George Burns. I couldn't remember what we had said, though, which was frustrating. However, I figured I'd had the dream because he'd just turned 100 and it was in all the media. Later that day, as my mother and I drove past the library, it was announced on the radio that Mr. Burns had died in his sleep early that morning. I told my mother about the dream, feeling chilled yet calm. She thought for a moment and then suggested very quietly that I had been given a gift, and perhaps I would remember the conversation when I needed to the most. Silvernya, I agree with what you say about the intelligence of those on the list. Although, I just may be an exception.... <> Yes, and I agree that it reminds me strongely of Vanyel, especially a certain scene towards the end. Of course, I figured out most of the big "surprises" in the first book, 'Luck In the Shadows', but that's okay. <> I'd be Stefen, most likely, and I'd go into greater detail about when he almost had Van in the hot tub so that the readers aren't left frustrated about not knowing!!!!! Okay, okay....seriously, I don't know. I don't think I'd be a Herald, because I'm a coward unless I'm REALLY angry, and I don't think it's possible to be altruistic when you're as selfish and egotistical as I can be. I'd probably be a minstrel of little plot importance or something. Ooh, or a page. I can just picture some of those serving lads being naughty and imitating pompous envoys for the amusement of their cohorts! *makes face* "Nyah, and get my dinner here faster next time! If it's the least bit cold..." Well, I did forget a few things. Oh well. Here's some fluff. Skip it if you want, there's just my sig after. ~~~~~~~FLUFF~~~~~~~ Elsa *BAMFS!* into the Hall, accompanied by a cloud of mint-scented smoke and a handful of somber looking sprites. She herself looks quite serious, dressed in a simple ash-grey robe, black leggings, and bare feet. She holds in her hands a large brass chalice. The tiny fey creatures flutter over to the magic fountain called "Joyful Waters", and each one collects a tiny bowlful of water from a seperate spout. They then carry the water back to Elsa and pour it into the chalice. Turning to face the tree Amy planted as the magical creatures settle amongst the silver leaves, Elsa raises the brass vessel high and speaks. "My small contribution to this tree of memory honoring Matthew Shepard, and all who must suffer the bigotry and unfair persecution in the name of which he was slain. May these waters, the waters of day and night combined, feed this tree and help it to grow strong in hope that one day it's seed will branch in the hearts of all people." And singing the first verse of "Land of the Silver Birch", she poured the cup's contents at the tree's foot, then bent over and lay a single red leaf, the brilliant autumn memento of the birch tree, against the pale white bark. ~~~~~~END FLUFF~~~~~~~ Elsa One In Black, Knight of Fluff, Member of the Order of Drifting Ashes, OoUH Champion of Jonne, Moonbeam, and Iceshadow, caller of monsters "Land of the silver birch Home of the beaver Where still the mighty moose Wanders at will Blue lake and rocky shore I will return once more Boum-diddy-ah-da Boum-diddy-ah-da Boooo-oooo-oooommm." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:17:23 PDT From: "* Winddancer *" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: fluff/companions Message-ID: <19981015001725.29938.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> ::Windancer steps into sight from the Shadows of Lurkdom, making her way slowly to the steaming hot springs. She smiles sadly at the beautiful tree, standing in silent tribute, and, a tear in her eye, places a pale flower beside the other, whispering a prayer for the young man's hapiness, and for people everywhere to see truth, rather than viewing everything through a veil of bigotry and narrowness. This done, she stands to face her listsibs. "Mundania has kept me from joining you for far too long a time. 'Tis nice to be here again." She smiles. "People have come and gone since last I was here, as is evidenced by the new puddles on the floor." The smile shifts into a grin, as she notices another sopping wet sheep that must have escaped the magical drying our listsib was kind enough to provide. She wrinkles her nose. "Wet sheep have a very pervasive odor about them, don't they?" She waves her hand and steam begins to rise from its back. Soon it stands before her, a surprised expression on its face, quite dry and fluffy. She looks up happily. "I'm finally getting the CD Shadowstalker, and I can't wait until it arrives. I'll never be able to listen to it without crying, though, because of 'Magic's Price.' That must have taken so much courage from Stef to finish it, after Van was k-killed." She gives her head a quick shake, brushing away her tears, and continues, "About Stef and 'Lendel, I just have a bit to say, and will try to keep it short. I didn't like either of reincarnation better than the other, really, but loved them both in different ways. If 'Lendel had been reincarnated as the same sort of person, I think it just would have been too much of a shock for Van, but since Stef had a fairly (very?)different personality, it was probably easier for Van to accept him without all the painful memories. It's my personal opinion that 'Lendel was more mature than Stef, more of an adult, but Stef did grow up some by the end of MPromice--and don't get me wrong here: I /don't/ think Stef was a child, just less confident than 'Lendel. I also think that it's /much/ better that 'Lendel and Stef were the same spirit, because after death, if this had not been the case, what would have happened after death? Which one would have been Van's eternal love? I read the LHM books after Arrows, Winds, and Storms, so I knew that Stef came back into the story, and when I first met 'Lendel, I was so afraid of what I knew was inevitably going to happen (because I knew that Stef was Van's lifebonded), but the fact that he was reincarnated as the person I knew helped to lessen the pain a bit. Of dear, that was much longer than I intended it to be. Many apologies to anyone who has kept reading this far. And now I have a question, which may or may not be obvious to everyone else, but I would like to ask anyway. :P Do non-Groveborn Companions have to be reincarnated, or do you think that some of them could be new spirits too? This could explain some of the inexperience a few of the companions, such as Ghost (we were discussing him a while back, but I never had time to post anything). It may be more lokely in his case, though, that he was either just in shock, or a trainee just elevated to whites killed on his trail circuit--that's awefully sad, but I guess it does happen sometimes. ::Windancer stops, realizing she's probably said far more than anyone would like to hear, and blushes. "Enough said, it seems. Farewell, my friends." She quickly steps back into the steaming mist of the hot spring.:: Zhai'helleva, Winddancer aka Xyara "Consistency is the defense of a small mind." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:04:28 -0400 From: "Zdunczyk, Ann Eleanor (Ann)" To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" Subject: RE: Serrated Message-ID: Look at the following URL for list of ML books. http://www.dragonfire.net/~DRAGONLORDS/bkfanml.htm > ---------- > From: MacFey[SMTP:macfey-+AT+-yahoo.com] > Reply To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 3:55 PM > To: zdunczyk-+AT+-cbig2.firewall.lucent.com > Subject: Re: Serrated > > > > can someone send me a list of the books in this series. Please. > == > > > I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! > > Wind To Thy Wings.... > > MacFey > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:56:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Amber Bay To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid attempt. Message-ID: MAJOR Fluff... /////////// An intensely angry young woman storms into the hall. Her long brown hair seems to fly wildly everywhere at once. She storms over to a free table and grabs at the Possibilities (opps, wrong universe)...um, she grabs a current leyline. With a clang, a metal basin drops onto the table. Still tapping into the leyline, she grabs a long-stemmed rose out of the air. With a wild, maniacal glee, she begins to shred it. She does this to about twenty poor roses, until her rage begins to wane. Having dealt with the edge of her anger successfully, she drops into an empty chair surrounding the table and talks to the floor as if it could understand her woes "I hate valentines day. I hate sweetest day. I hate any day having to do with couples or the feeling love. Why must people with ashkes rub this fact into the faces of lonely people? Why must we endure this suffering? Why must I feel like a freak because I don't have an ashke? WHY WHY WHY!!" Realizing she had begun to shriek, the woman visibly calms herself. Having found no other solace which competes, she grabs a chocolate chip cookie off the table in front of her, and pulls "Magics Promise" out of the air. With a heavy sigh, she waves the hand with the book, and the basin disappears. END FLUFF //////// sorry people, but i *had* to vent...i hate being alone, and i hate pretending that i'm happy that i haven't found my ashke yet....and as much as i hate to admit it, it sickens me when i see happy couple parading about...i wish i could say i am above that, but i'm not...the only book to read when i'm in this mood is Magics Promise...somehow i don't feel so bad, when Vanyel is suffering with me.... i really don't have anything else to say but that...i'm sorry for clogging up e-mail...people *without* ashkes, how do you cope??...i know that i'm almost at the end of my patience...if anyone has any suggestions for keeping sane, i'd gladly appreciate it... Love to All (even those with ashkes) ~ Ice ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:32:07 PDT From: "Tea'la S." To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WYOMING GAY BASHING VICTIM MATTHEW SHEPARD PRONOUNCED DEAD Message-ID: <19981015063208.5506.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> As I read about this and what happened in my own state about the black man dragged behind a truck, the only question I have in mind is "Why ?" What could these people possibly be thinking to believe this is right? And it makes me angry. Very angry and sad that as humans we can do this to each other and we tolerate it by looking the other way too many times. Hitler and his bunch killed so many people who were of different beliefs, South Africa, Ireland's religious civil wars, the KKK,hate crimes. What will it take till we learn ? It makes me want to cry that we have become so insensitive to one another. How can we hate so much ? I took a survey the other day asking about who I thought were heroes for this generation, one of the selections for an answer was: there are no heroes anymore. What a sad thought. Where have all the heroes gone ? Are we that afraid to stand up for what we believe that this sort of thing happens nationwide ? I know that one persons voice crying out is heard by a few. But many voices crying out loudly can not be ignored for very long. We should all be screaming at the top of our lungs in fear. What if someone decided I must be gay because I have short hair and wear mens shirts ? I am not...but would it matter to them ? This makes me afraid. A very poor attempt at an OB Misty- but thats what I like about her books. Where else can you find such simple acceptance of differences of lifestyles ? My heart and prayers go to the family and anyone else affected by this heartless tragedy. I need a hero. Tea'la Salazar Just a sad person today. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:33:39 +0200 From: "Morgaine" To: Subject: RE: Stefen Message-ID: <000101bdf827$465a2dd0$656410ac-+AT+-pc01.tc-systems.ch> Raven Darkblade wrote: > If he had not died, Vanyel may very well have not been > Chosen. If Vanyel > was not Chosen, there would be no story. Amen to that! > If he had not died and Van had still been Chosen, we would have a > lifebond consisting of two powerful, sucidally unstable > mages. Why should Vanyel be suicidally unstable? What made van unstable in the beginning was isolation. When he "found" Tylendel, he had someone to care for, and that was what he needed to stabilize. I think that this would have given him a more healty perception of other people and, in time, he would have found more people to care for. ---------------------- Morgaine, the Were-Cat A distant cousin to the Cheshire Cat Member of The Ones In Black "I am the Cat who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:42:09 +0200 From: "Morgaine" To: Subject: RE: braid Message-ID: <000201bdf828$763e0c00$656410ac-+AT+-pc01.tc-systems.ch> Rhiannon Shadowsong wrote: > Not that I'm saying he had no right to be suicidal, but ya'll > (I'm from the > South. hee) seem to be implying that he was an innocent victim of > circumstance. If he had just spoken to someone, ANYONE, everything > would have been ok. If Savil had known about his tie to > Staven, all of > this would have been prevented. There was a big secretive streak in > Lendel, and that's what caused a lot of his troubles. It is a thought that did not enter my head until the end of magic Price, but I am convinced that "circumstance" is not the word for the chain of events that brought Lendel to his end. I believe he was pushed with a very careful planning. I think Krebain was placed in the right place with a personal agenda, other than the obvious. After all, Lendel had a few very obvious buttons that could be pushed, and they were not a secret. Wind to thy wings ---------------------- Morgaine, the Were-Cat A distant cousin to the Cheshire Cat Member of The Ones In Black "I am the Cat who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:31:22 +0800 From: Silveyrna To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Another from the Mistress of Extreme Longwindedness (or is that title taken already?) Message-ID: <3625DD0A.F2C07DD0-+AT+-geocities.com> > From: efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty) > and I know, without a doubt, if my twin were > murdered, died in her sleep, any way that she died, that she would NOT > want me to become suicidal over it, or (if she herself were murdered) > murder innocents in revenge. (Now, putting the bastard on death row > would be a main priority.....ahem, anyway....) If Tylendel hadn't been > unstable, he probably would have realized that, that was not what his > twin wanted. I'd like to argue that point. Staven wasn't the most rational person in the world, and I don't think we can depend on him *not* to want Tylendel to have revenge. Remember, Savil didn't think much of him. The two brothers were both so caught up in revenge anyway. Look at what 'Lendel did, and remember he was the more rational of the two. These two kids were fed vengeance with their breakfast. > From: "Old Nicodemus" > Agreed on the topic of Shandi (Master Dixon forgive me!!!). It looked > nothing like the book described her. However I wonder if the pic was > supposed to represent the maturing she underwnet at Havens??? > As for Kero, *sigh* I was never able to get a good mental image of her so > any pic I see I take with a grain of salt..."oh, yeah that *could* be her." > Lex also mentioned a pic of Darian in Owlsflight. Well switiching to > Owlsight, I thought the pic of Darian was great, my prob was with Kuari! I > thought he'd be....bigger? from the look of him in the pic he looks to > be about the size of a snowy owl that hasnt reached full growth yet. *shrug* > I could be wrong though, Im no raptor expert. Dixon isn't very regular in the quality of work he produces. I despise his version of Firesong, for example. What's that ridiculous tuft doing sprouting from his forhead? I prefer Jody Lee's work. I guess I'm a bit like her. All the people in every drawing of mine must be good-looking; the beautiful-er the better! As for the size of Kuari, do you know how large snowy owls get? Two feet tall at full growth I gather. They aren't the lightest birds to carry around. I think you mean a barn owl. > From: MacFey > OK... actually taking the whole reincarnation thing into perspective > and the fact that 'lendel and stevan (sp?) were in fact twins, does > anyone else stop to consider the possibility that while twins are > closer than normal brothers (especially in this case) that possibly > before 'lendel could in fact do what he was supposed to do (support > van in every way) the two halves of a whole had to be reunited thus > the murder and suicide and reincarnation of 'lendel as stefan? (name > sound close to familiar?????) Eww ick. I'm not very fond of Staven, I prefer to think not. If y'all ask *ME* (which I know y'all would prefer not to), I don't think Misty stopped to think of all this. She just wrote. She wanted something melodramatically terrible to happen to Van, so she killed of his lover. She prolly got tonnes of fan mail complaining about his death (and maybe she felt Van deserved better), so she resurrected him. Simple :) *runs behind the conveniently situated were-couch in #lothlorien and holds a plexiglas shield over her head* > Jennifer > Collector of unicorns and stuffed kitty-kats, and formerly bond-mate of > Callie :( o what happened? Or shouldn't I ask? > From: Tatjana Schwabe > > Feist drives me up the wall tho. Why is Midkemia perpetually involled in a war? > > (Waah! he killed off Jimmy! *sob* And Arutha died of OLD AGE :P :P) > > He din't!!! He can't have!!! Not Jimmy!! You mean Jimmy the Hand?? DEAD?? And Arutha > died of old age? There seems to be a lot of books out there that I missed...... *sighs* he did :P Aruthat fell off a horse and died of complications :P :P Jimmy and wife burnt to death in current war. The current timeline is way into the Serpentwar Saga now. May be over in fact. I don't know. I don't want to know :( I heard that in _The King's Buccaneer_, Martin's duchy get leveled. I don't want to find out that he and his wife died. O'course, it gets marvelously confusing. Jimmy the Hand named one of his kids Arutha. Arutha (the 2nd) named one of his kids Jimmy! Think one of the kids later becomes the new Upright man. Have to say this tho, Feist is marvelous at formality. The ceremony or whatever as he was crowned king of thieves would be a good read. But gods he's depressing! Hated him when he killed Locky. My mental world of Midkemia revolves around the Riftwar and goes no furthur! > And who says they would have had to be an unstable pairing?? They could have both > grown..... not all lifebondings are between talented and non-talented (or are they and > I just missed it?!) You forgot Dirk and Talia. Both heralds, lifebonded. > From: Rainbow > Anyone know how to copywrite a story? Do you just put 'Copywrite > '? ahh think you have to fill out an official form if you want it to be really copyrighted. And pay as well. There are levels, apparently. If you stick that on, it's technically copyrighted. But if someone steals it, you can't take it to court. Not enough legal protection. I think you (and any other artists/writers out there) may be interested in this: http://www.gag.org/releases/rate_test.html > I've managed to get someone else hooked on Misty *grins* They don't > understand my facination with Firesong tho'... *sigh* I /love/ the pic > in WoChange of him... *sighs and wonders about photocopying it and > sticking it in her locker, or is that not allowed?* They can't sue you over something as minor as that. You're not making any money or distributing it, so it should be fine. Sticking it up on a webpage is another matter. > Oh yes... Anyone else seem to use 'Havens' 'shaych/shay'a'chern' 'ashke' > and 'ke'chara' in their everyday thoughts? I do... *sheepish smile* > Totally annoys people... I prefer the word 'shaych' rather than 'gay'... > Gay used to be a name and is a term of merriment, happiness... As if > shaych people are a bit too happy-go-lucky (I'm not insulting anyone > it's just that I don't like the term!) Shay'a'chern does have a lot less negative overtones to it, doesn't it? I think Misty intentionally made it a nice sounding word. > Anyone ever work out what 'shay'a'chern' meant exactly? I know it's 'one > whose lover is like ones self' but exactly translated it means what? > Doesn't 'shay' mean like 'gay' in english? So would 'kreth'ashke' be > lifebonded for non-shaych couples? (I just like dissecting funny > languages!) I personally don't think so. I don't think the Tayledras would bother to differentiate shaych and non-shaych lovers. I think the shay part means 'self'. So maybe shay'kreth'ashke would be something like 'lover who is very close/dear to self' (or to 'me'). > From: "Rhiannon Shadowsong" > You gotta think about it, he brought everything after Staven's death on > himself. He was mad, but that doesn't change the fact that he was doing > something very wrong that would have killed dozens to hundreds of > innocent people. He killed one. Evan Leshara. (Yes I read MPawn far too often. Three times in the last month alone. I'm a read-aholic. I read magazine ads in the absence of anything else) > there was more of Stef in the books. I found him to be more rounded > than 'Lendel - as if 'Lendel has only one purpose -- to blast Van's > channels open & then exit stage right. You know, I get that impression as well. Like I said above. Misty wanted Van to suffer, so she created 'Lendel. Sorry to burst bubbles out there, but Misty wasn't telling a story form the soul, she was writing something a)to sell, b) to create awareness (in this case homosexuality) and c)probably to protest all the blatently happy Conan-ic stories out there. There you have it. For her, Valdemar is work! > If anybody has any tips about traveling with > dogs & three-year-olds, feel free to email me off-list until Friday, > Oct. 16. a) Travel short distancesb) Don't! ( O_o Sorry, couldn't resist). Silveyrna ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ** Realm Silveyrna http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3187/ ** Elfwood Amatuer Fantasy/Sci-Fi Art Galleries http://www.elfwood.com/lothlorien/artists/gin/gin.html ** Mercedes Lackey Fan Art http://members.xoom.com/MLackey_art/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:44:41 +0300 From: Tatjana Schwabe To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: 'Lendel's fault.... Message-ID: <3625E029.5609BAF4-+AT+-usa.net> Rhiannon Shadowsong wrote: > I'm gong to get smacked, but I'll say it anyway. > You gotta think about it, he brought everything after Staven's death on > himself. He was mad, but that doesn't change the fact that he was doing > something very wrong that would have killed dozens to hundreds of > innocent people. Unleashing wyrsa? Gah! ::shudders convulsively:: Not > that I'm saying he had no right to be suicidal, but ya'll (I'm from the > South. hee) seem to be implying that he was an innocent victim of > circumstance. If he had just spoken to someone, ANYONE, everything > would have been ok. If Savil had known about his tie to Staven, all of > this would have been prevented. There was a big secretive streak in > Lendel, and that's what caused a lot of his troubles. Now I'm going to > go slink into a corner, change into the black silks I normally wear, and > pull one of my disappearing acts. And for safety's sake, I'll put up > one of those physical protection shields in case of thrown rocks. > Actually, I think you have a point there..... Although you scare me, I shall throw up my best protective wards around me, grounded and centered that I am, and say that in fact Vanyel didn't really act very intelligently either..... he got those books that 'Lendel needed and if he had said anything to Savil or so all this would have been avoided as well....... If he had not been so blind because of his love for 'Lendel...... and it is not as if 'Lendel couldn't have gotten justice from the Heralds...... or am I wrong here...... *smiles nicely..... I am harmless-smile..... Bright the day, Tatjana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:26:05 +0800 From: "Angie" To: "mistylist" Subject: me back Message-ID: <01bdf836$fb025b40$28c415a5-+AT+-heraldtg> Heyla all! me back from finals. i have survived... yes! :) but will i survive the grades? that is the question... *sigh* I'll stop mangling Hamlet, and start replying... ;) :> Feist drives me up the wall tho. Why is Midkemia perpetually involled in a war? :> (Waah! he killed off Jimmy! *sob* And Arutha died of OLD AGE :P :P) : :He din't!!! He can't have!!! Not Jimmy!! You mean Jimmy the Hand?? DEAD?? And Arutha :died of old age? There seems to be a lot of books out there that I missed...... He did... *sob* poor Jimmy... and his death was so argh!!!! he could have _ran_! and i thought Arutha (as in the prince) ran into a building on fire or something? :> I hate living in SE Asia. I swear if I ever pass Uni I'll get a job in an :> english speaking country with a reasonable supply of books. Do you know how HARD :> it is to get fantasy books here? yes. for one, I live there... ;) never go to places like MPH or Times. get to the library or the rental bookshops... sad, i know. and new books are never there when you are... :( About Elves-meet-tayledras.... Carrach did something on that... *hahaha* i think it'll be cool to see that. maybe they could open a rift between Midkemia and Velgarth. I don't suppose some elves could go with Tomas and Pug into the Hall of the Worlds? :) kewl... vampires.... i love the creatures.... it's the gothic lover in me... ;) and about greys. IIRC, during Van's time, there were no such things as Greys. the trainees wore their own attire, not having to wear a dulled and toned down version of the Herald's, Bard's, Healer's, or Guard's uniform... ;) ( ) Wind to thy Wings ) ( Shadowblade mindmate to Raul <==+==> Elven archer-mage of Fairgrove >>~~~~~> | | High Priestess of the Goddess of the Elves | | High Priestess of OOPS | | Grand Dame of the Order of the Namers | | Singer of Fire - Alto Section | | Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes (Eldan, Eric, and Terenil!) | | Member of the Mistic Circle | | Visit my Homepage ~> | | http://members.tripod.com/~Shadowblade \/ "I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:45:19 +0100 From: "Alexia/Sabrina" To: Subject: All sorts braid Message-ID: <015e01bdf842$119d66a0$7ccf28c3-+AT+-i.casale> Fluff~~ A young women slips quietly from the bushes and into the hall towards the tree and quickly puts down two sprigs of lilly of the valley at it's roots with the other flowers. Then, picking up her trailing skirts so as not to tread in the puddles she dodges across the hall to the table and starts tasting the delicacies... > With a flick of her hand an an aeaeae gesture > and a flagon of chilled zinfandel wine appears... bliss... 'Try a glass if you've had a hard day... though not more because it's very dry! unless those around you don't mind if you get very tispy.' _________________________ Talking about LHM... did anyone else think that Mardic and Doonie sounded like the most BORING people ever... they were just so.... PLACID! Well... I have only read Magic's Promise so far but I liked Tylendel... I thought Galla was wrong to repudiate him though... yes, he COULD have killed lots of people but he wasn't exactly sane and the Companion's love should be unconditional... unless he did something really really awful... I mean... I think she should have come and got Lendel to help her get rid of the Wrysa and IF he didn't then... when she pointed out that innocent people would be killed... then, yes, she should have repudiated him... but she didn't even give him a chance just rushed in... and if they'd have done it together she might not have been killed- and no one else either... In terms of owing Van... it was very unfair to swear him to secrecy- van saw Lendel as having done so much for him he Couldn't have told anyone... complete emotional blackmail... maybe if Van WASN-+AT+-T so dependant he could have gone to Savil... but he was, so... Anyway... If you look at Arrows... when Ylsa is killed Keren VERY nearly suicides... only the prescene of another LIFEBOND to replace that one saves her... Though she still had her twin and her companion she had to have the third bond... Tylendel on the other hand lost TWO of his three bonds... so it's hardly surprising he killed himself if Keren did it only after losing one... and would have if she hasn't had that one replaced... Re shay'a'chern: I think it's a lovely word/phrase/whatever... Re no ashke: Well I don't have one... but then I'm not ready for one. I need to sort myself out and my life first . In the meantime I console myself with having wonderful friends on the net and in real life... and in my family... and in writing:) It's the wrong time in my life to find someone so even if I did meet them I wouldn't recognise it. RE Copyright: eg Copyright Sabrina Helayna Ardeloes, 1998 THis is my friend, SAbrina's Copyright... and it is enough... You can send your work to a solicitor etc... but this should suffice but it has to be at the top AND bottom of your piece of work... AND EVERY part if there are several... My father;s a lawyer and I checked it with him- it's fine. Take care all! Alexia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:39:58 -0400 From: "Old Nicodemus" To: Subject: RE: Another from the Mistress of Extreme Longwindedness (or is that title taken already?) Message-ID: <000001bdf849$af06c740$414d82d0-+AT+-oldnic> > Dixon isn't very regular in the quality of work he produces. I > despise his version of > Firesong, for example. What's that ridiculous tuft doing > sprouting from his forhead? I > prefer Jody Lee's work. I guess I'm a bit like her. All the > people in every drawing of > mine must be good-looking; the beautiful-er the better! Hmmmm...."quality" issues aside and not to bemoan Miss Lee but I think thats why I like Dixon so much. The people arent SUPER good looking or anything of the sort. They seem more alive, more real then the cover art. Theyre human. Theyre personality comes out and shows itself in the pics and dixon allows that to make them seem beautiful or what hae you depending on the way the personality strikes the viewer. > As for the size of Kuari, do you know how large snowy owls get? > Two feet tall at full > growth I gather. Um, about 22 inches "tall" with up to a 58 inch wingspan. Im an OWLcaholoic. Like I said, an *immature* snowy owl. He looked too small for even a juvenile eagle owl Bondbird. > Eww ick. I'm not very fond of Staven, I prefer to think not. If > y'all ask *ME* (which I > know y'all would prefer not to), I don't think Misty stopped to > think of all this. She > just wrote. She wanted something melodramatically terrible to > happen to Van, so she killed > of his lover. She prolly got tonnes of fan mail complaining about > his death (and maybe she > felt Van deserved better), so she resurrected him. Simple :) > *runs behind the conveniently > situated were-couch in #lothlorien and holds a plexiglas shield > over her head* MAAAHAAHAAA!!! The Rat in me loves this explanation!!! **The little black Rat conjures a steaming mug of coffee and salutes the collector of unicorns!!** On Fiest:: I gotta agree!!!The Riftwar Saga was excellent! I was "okay" with this new series till I started Rise of a Merchant Prince and the book (literally) fell apart on me. It was IMRO rather boring and I simply couldnt get interested in Roo. ON using Velgarth terms: heh heh, I use to. Now I just mumble, growl, hiss, sputter and occasionally squeek. > > From: "Rhiannon Shadowsong" > > You gotta think about it, he brought everything after Staven's death on > > himself. He was mad, but that doesn't change the fact that he was doing > > something very wrong that would have killed dozens to hundreds of > > innocent people. > > He killed one. Evan Leshara. (Yes I read MPawn far too often. > Three times in the last > month alone. I'm a read-aholic. I read magazine ads in the > absence of anything else) > > > there was more of Stef in the books. I found him to be more rounded > > than 'Lendel - as if 'Lendel has only one purpose -- to blast Van's > > channels open & then exit stage right. > > You know, I get that impression as well. Like I said above. Misty > wanted Van to suffer, so > she created 'Lendel. Sorry to burst bubbles out there, but Misty > wasn't telling a story > form the soul, she was writing something a)to sell, b) to create > awareness (in this case > homosexuality) and c)probably to protest all the blatently happy > Conan-ic stories out > there. There you have it. For her, Valdemar is work! > > > If anybody has any tips about traveling with > > dogs & three-year-olds, feel free to email me off-list until Friday, > > Oct. 16. ROTF. Hey now, lets be nice to 3 YOs. Theyve managed to survive the Terrible Twos!! LOL And like all Rugrats are sacred to my Furred Self. **the little rat puffs furred plump body up in an attempt to look menacing, and manages to scare all of one paranoid fly to death*** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:09:22 -0500 From: Amy Trujillo To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MATTHEW SHEPARD and fluff Message-ID: <36261019.32DF-+AT+-southwind.net> Heyla listsibs, ****************** Smiling sadly at the offerings that have been placed around the tree the woman turns around and walks toward the table to find a snack. Suddenly squeaking sounds are heard coming from the large multicolored sack the woman carries on her shoulder. Opening the sack she finds that a new ferret is glaring at her from the depths of the sack. Quickly she takes her newest baby out and lets her go make mischief with the rest of her friends. "Everyone, that was Shadow her specialty is sneaking up on the people in lurkdom and grabbing their toes." With a last glance around to insure that her friends aren't in too much trouble she grabs a couple of cookies and wanders around listening to the conversations. "Oh by the way, newbies? :evil grin: You really have nothing to worry about, don't mind all these people carrying buckets, they mean you no harm....:snicker:" ******************* To return to a more serious subject, I feel like I should be apologizing for my home state, Kansas. I just heard the Rev. Fred Phelps plans to stage an anti-gay protest at Mathew Shepard's funeral. To put it bluntly this makes me sick, how can anyone be so full of hate and bigotry that they cannot mourn when a young man is killed? But from what I have seen and heard from Phelps he does not have a conscience or even a soul. It just proves to me that there are humans who make Misty's unsleigh elves look compasionate. He is a real life Father Leren. Anyway for a real short obMisty......I just finished Owlsight and....I really liked it, Misty seems to be more on track with this one. There is the two sided story again, but is it me or did the stories seem to be fuller somehow, they had a depth that I felt was lacking recently. Spoiler for Owlsight * * * * * S P O I L E R * * * * * Okay someone, sorry I deleted the messages before I thought of this, said that they thought that Kero was too negative in this book. I didn't think she was negative, just realistic, the Valdemarans had no idea what the Ghost Cat people wanted and to then learn that there was a plague would make anyone cautious and not exactly inclined to be positive. This was not a real positive situation. Kero was faced with a pretty tough decision: wait and see if the barbarians were hostile or not which was a risk to Valdemar, or attack and maybe kill people who could have been allies. Luckily Darian and Keisha's actions solved that problem, but I can see why Kero was not filled with happiness and light. She was being the professional mercenary/Herald self. * * end spoiler Sorry for all the fluff and the rant but this whole thing with Mathew Shepard is driving me crazy. Until next time, Amy Ferret Friend Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:48:28 +0200 From: "HEUBERGER KATRIN" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 'Lendel's fault.... Message-ID: <411E7BC52B0-+AT+-fsrz1.rz.uni-passau.de> > in fact Vanyel didn't really act very intelligently > either..... he got those books that 'Lendel needed and if he had said > anything to Savil or so all this would have been avoided as well....... If > he had not been so blind because of his love for 'Lendel........ > ... > Tatjana > Vanyel was not really blind of love. I think he was too insecure to act on his own. After all he had won a little ground with Lendel. One person who cared for him. He didn't want to endanger this. It's hard to say (especially then english is not your mother tongue : ( But I'm sure Vanyel was too weak in the beginning to act different. Tai ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:01:04 +0200 From: HEUBERGER KATRIN To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Tai's introduction Message-ID: <4121DEA47F9-+AT+-fsrz1.rz.uni-passau.de> Heyla all, My name is Katrin and I just recently rejoined this list. I'm a student of art history in Bavaria. Besides Sports, computer, internet and art I'm a real book-fanatic (Fantasy, SF, Romance). I also love cinema (the mask of Zorro was just gorgious) and anime plus Disney (every Otaku will cry out in pain if he ever reads of my preference-connection) I adore the work of Mercedes Lackey. Her characters and their sexual preferences are surprising me a lot, nontheless I love them. THe best liaison I read from her was : "IF I pay you not in gold" (a coproduction) with a prince a succubus/incubus and a Mazonite mage. The second best : (sorry I forgot the title) with an elf , an L. A.-"wizard" and a "witch". QUite a selection. But my best-loved character is Vanyel. I'm a fan of Elfquest, too (that' s a work of WEndy and Richard Pini) This year I celebrated my 21th birthday. Actually I wanted to visit the states and drink a bear. It's no fun to do this in Bavaria where you can nap at Daddys bear when you are 12. Although I study art history I want to do something different: Animation ( Trickfilm). Sorry that I messed it all up. Nice weekend, Tai ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:01:42 PDT From: "Rhiannon Shadowsong" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Lots o' stuff Message-ID: <19981015190144.16841.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> FLUFF-- A misty figure blows into the hall, and solidifies before the Tree. She takes a black flower of unknown type and lays it next to the others. she turns away sadly and begins to address more cheerful subjects. END FLUFF-- If I was to choose a person to be, it'd be a Taleydras. Which one? Um, probably wossname from Owlflight. He's a scout who bonds with owls. Cool! And he gets to roam the country-side protecting some mages. That's important. So I'd get to have fun, and do something worthwhile.... >Me neither..... somehow I don't like mixing fantasy and reality.... not even the books >about it - I absolutely LOVE Eddings, but I've never read his reality - ficiton >ones.... >Maybe it's just because I know it can't happen and I just get too depressend thinking >about it.... How do you know it can't happen? ::winks mysteriously:: > > >> Feist drives me up the wall tho. Why is Midkemia perpetually involled in a war? >> (Waah! he killed off Jimmy! *sob* And Arutha died of OLD AGE :P :P) > >He din't!!! He can't have!!! Not Jimmy!! You mean Jimmy the Hand?? DEAD?? And Arutha >died of old age? There seems to be a lot of books out there that I missed...... It's the series that starts with something of a Serpent Queen, I can't remember. The others are Rise of a Merchant Prince and Rage of a Demon King. I didn't like them near as much as the Magicians and Riftwar. Anybody read the ones about the Tsuranni? I thought those were awesome. Anyway.... Rainbow: >Anyone know how to copywrite a story? Do you just put 'Copywrite > '? That's pretty much it. Anything you write is copy righted the moment the pen leaves the paper. I think you can register it with the govt and then there isn't anyway in hell it can be contested, but publishers will do that as part of the deal, so unless you're really paranoid that someone will rip off your idea, don't worry about it. >sighs and wonders about photocopying it and >sticking it in her locker, or is that not allowed? Kalistia has a picture of Van in her locker. We've made a ritual of bowing t it when lots of people are watching.... hehehe. >So would 'kreth'ashke' be >lifebonded for non-shaych couples? Actually I think it's "shay'kreth'ashke" and that its the chern part that lends the gay connotation. I think Moonsong uses it in MPawn. And yes,I do use taledras words (and karsite and shin'a'in, for that matter) daily. Winddancer: >Do non-Groveborn Companions have to be reincarnated, or do you think >that some of them could be new spirits too? This could explain some >of >the inexperience a few of the companions, such as Ghost (we were >discussing him a while back, but I never had time to post anything). >It >may be more lokely in his case, though, that he was either just in >shock, or a trainee just elevated to whites killed on his trail >circuit--that's awefully sad, but I guess it does happen sometimes. Yeah, it does. Happened to Dirks student, Christa. It's plausible, and who really knows. there really isn't anyway to figure that one out... MacFey: > PS - I was not allowed fantasy in my home (religious home, >religious school) so I hollowed out a copy of War and Peace and stuck >the paperbacks in there... rubber cement and a bookmark and you're >set. Ugh. I went to catholic school too... Anyway, I usually stuck the cover to some boring hardcover text over the book I was reading. And I'm one of those people who puts bookcovers on everything, so I just disguised my pbs that way.... My parents are cool, tho, so I can read whatever I want at home. Morgaine >It is a thought that did not enter my head until the end of magic >Price, >but I am convinced that "circumstance" is not the word for the chain >of events that brought Lendel to his end. >I believe he was pushed with a very careful planning. I think Krebain >was placed in the right place with a personal agenda, other than the >obvious. >After all, Lendel had a few very obvious buttons that could be >pushed, >and they were not a secret. True. And Misty did pretty much come out and say it at the end of Magics Price. Hey Ice, ::offers hug:: I'm solitary as well. Revel in it! Ack, I hafta run. Rhiannon Shadowsong ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1754 **********************************