MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1760 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: pronunciation and something off my heart. by Traci 2) Re: Names by Dancekbg-+AT+-aol.com 3) Short post warning! Re: pronunciation, RL fluff, book list thing, ect. by Dancekbg-+AT+-aol.com 4) Re: fluff but important i think..... bear with me by Yvonne 5) Re: Short post warning! by Dainestar-+AT+-aol.com 6) Re: Names by AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com 7) names, dreams, elspeth & more by "Marv Watson" 8) Re: fluff but important i think..... bear with me by "Judy L. Wood" 9) Names/books/dreams/wishes by Peter Allen 10) Re: dreams, & more by Tatjana Schwabe 11) Re: Names by "Alexia/Sabrina" 12) webpages by efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty) 13) other Books of MIsty by "HEUBERGER KATRIN" 14) braid by "Rhiannon Shadowsong" 15) Re: Names by "Phoenix, Guardian of Harmony" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:43:30 -0500 From: Traci To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: pronunciation and something off my heart. Message-ID: <362CF5F2.F942C600-+AT+-oklahoma-city.crosswinds.net> for lendel i say ty-len-dahl, for shaych i say shay-ish etc. I lost the only one in my life that i had truely loved. People think that just b/c she was my love that we were amoral or something. im not shaych but i am a word i made up....dvandersainf pronounced vander-sain-f. it means bisexual. I am also wiccan so im doubly discriminated against. i just needed to let that out. the only reason im here now is because of my boyfriend who helped me and who was there for me when i needed someone the most. Mooncrystal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:50:41 EDT From: Dancekbg-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Names Message-ID: Wierd how I never think about this stuff until someone brings it up. I say Tay-LAY-drahs; SEL-uh-nay; Kahr-ul (like Carl); shay-ch. I said Randul, until I heard the Shadow Stalker CD where HA says Randale. So now I say that. What about Shin'a'in? I say shin (like the part of your body) ah in. My friend says shine-a(long a)-ine. What about Van? Van or Von? There are tons more (any Shin'a'in and Tayledras), but I can't think of them right now. Windy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:03:10 EDT From: Dancekbg-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Short post warning! Re: pronunciation, RL fluff, book list thing, ect. Message-ID: <64a1444a.362cfa8e-+AT+-aol.com> Short post Warning! I just realized that I don't say Tuh-len-dul, I say Tlen- dul. Like, only two syllables. how does everyone say Yfandes? i say Yuh- fan-deez. Just wondering! Windy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:34:21 -0700 From: Yvonne To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: fluff but important i think..... bear with me Message-ID: <362D0FED.18CB-+AT+-planet.eon.net> Heyla! Tatjana Schwabe wrote: > > killing them is not the answer. At least not in my opinion. Cennydd wrote: > Well, now this is the part where we might end up disagreeing. In this > case, I might agree with you, but in general I don't necessarily rule out > killing someone as a punishment/solution. I happen to agree with Tatjana here. Thankfully I live in Canada, so there's no capitol punishment. I'm of the view that all life is sacred (ok, ok, cliche, I know) and killing someone becuse of something they did, no matter how bad the crime, would make those that sentence him/her and carry out the exicution just as guilty as the criminal. On suicide - well, that's different. At least with it you have control over your fate (mostly. I know the stats) but to have others judge you with your own life in the balance ... Anyhoo, what I DON'T agree with in the Canadian system is that a "life" sentence is 25 years max. You can get parole as early as 15 years. There are some ppl who deserve to be locked into little rooms for the rest of their lives, because, quite frankly, there has to be some sort of 'stop' line where we say "enough is enough, and you are not fit to live out in society" If they choose to suicide from there, then it's their choice. I think what I m trying to say is that I am uncomfortable with the idea of taking the choice to live or die out of someone's hands, even if they are a mass-murderer or something. Doesn't killing the killer make you as much of a killer as he/she was, even if it WAS for a 'reason'? Morgaine wrote: > I always thought that Talia's use of her empaty on the > rapist was a nice application of the concept. He will stop to pay for his > deeds when he comes to see them as wrong. I never paticularily agreed with that sentence. (re-cap) Talia locked the man into the memories of his children, and was forsed to re-live the horrors that he visited upon them. (end re-cap) My gripe is that can someone who is in eternal torment stop, step back and say "My, what I did was wrong. I regret what I did." The man will just be reacting. Who here can think clearly while being threatened? I can't. So for me, I think that Talia locked him in those memories until he dies. True, what the man did was cruel and inhumane, but I feel that there could have been a better way to deal with him. Tatjana wrote: > Will you now all take your buckets of water and splash me?? I shall > prepare a spell first - heat water to comfortable temperature - I *hate* > cold water........ *Yvonne chuckles evilly to herself and swings her salty Enchanted Bucket (tm) between her hands. Enchanted Buckets (tm) happen to ... be resistant to water-temp spells!* ~~~SPLOSH~~~ Gotcha! Hope it wasn't too cold! *Yvonne smiles sweetly* If you're cold, you could always go for a swim in the hotsprings. And you wouldn't even need to change! Shawn wrote: > People with buckets? Umm hmm. It all statred a while back when ppl were POUNCING on people as a sort of greeting. Being different, I decided to start drenching newbies with a salt-water bucket. Then one day, I ran outta water because so many new people had arrived, and was gifted with my Enchanted Bucket (tm) which never runs dry! And so that's the mystery explained. :) WTTW, Yvonne Goddess of Kelpies, Selkies, and the Water-Borne Carrier of the Enchanted Bucket (tm) Knight of Fluff and Lady of the OOUH Leader of the Albertan Headquarters for CfWD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I just had a battle with an 84 year old nun. And I think I lost." -My Mother ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:28:59 EDT From: Dainestar-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Short post warning! Message-ID: <672f8884.362d0eab-+AT+-aol.com> I'm de-lurking just for the pronunciation argument. You should feel special. << I just realized that I don't say Tuh-len-dul, I say Tlen- dul. Like, only two syllables. how does everyone say Yfandes? i say Yuh- fan-deez. >> Tylendel- I say Till-EN-dle Tayledras- I say TAY-leh-drahs (wasn't there a pronunciation guide for some of these in the back of Oathbreakers?) Vanyel- I say VAN-yull (rhymes with Daniel, like someone said) Yfandes- I say Ih-FAN-deez (like with Yvette or Yvonne) Shin'a'in- Shin-AY-in Selenay- SELL-uh-nay Karal- Kar-AHL How bout Natoli? Is it Na-TOE-lee or NAT-o-lee (like Natalie)? Or Cymry? Sim-ree or Kim-ree? She'enedra? Z'HAI'HALLEVA??? Does it really matter? Whatever sounds best to you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:32:47 -0400 (EDT) From: AERDEN-+AT+-delphi.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Names Message-ID: <01J37C4AIZLK9M3LG5-+AT+-delphi.com> On 20-OCT-1998 17:38:23.4 mercedes-lackey said to AERDEN me>Wierd how I never think about this stuff until someone brings it up. me>I say Tay-LAY-drahs; SEL-uh-nay; Kahr-ul (like Carl); shay-ch. I said me>Randul, until I heard the Shadow Stalker CD where HA says Randale. So me>now I say that. What about Shin'a'in? I say shin (like the part of me>your body) ah in. My friend says shine-a(long a)-ine. What about me>Van? Van or Von? There are tons more (any Shin'a'in and Tayledras), me>but I can't think of them right now. Windy--I pronounce the words: Tayledras - 'tie-LAY-dras' Selenay - 'SEH-leh-nay' Karal - 'Karl' shaych - 'shy (ch as in Bach)' Randale - 'Ran-DAHL' Shin'a'in - 'shee-na-EEN' Vanyel - 'Daniel' with a V hertasi - 'hair-TAH-zee' or 'ehr-TAH-zee' ekele - 'eh-KEH-leh' wyrsa - 'WIHR-sah' I think I pronounce some of them differently than Misty does--I'm pretty sure she pronounces Vanyel as 'van-YEL,' but this is the way I like them. Chantal/Aerden, peeking in from Lurkdom! "Doubt is the basis of faith." --Malcolm Muldridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:12:53 -0700 From: "Marv Watson" To: Subject: names, dreams, elspeth & more Message-ID: <005d01bdfc87$8c9fa860$e78030cc-+AT+-default> HEYLA LISTSIBS!!!!!! ::a low thread of music spills over into the halls as the figure of Skywolf and Misha appear, snapping their fingers along with that blood stirrin' beat:: ohhh don't we all just love Harry Connick Jr? oh baby oh baby :;wipes drool from lip:: >Such similar tastes...::grins:: Um, you do realize that at this rate, >Jordan won't have finished the Wheel of Time for another hundred years >or so? Just so you know.... Hey hey hey!!!!! THe next WHEEL OF TIME book is out and ready to read everyone! Just check our local bookstore! Prejudices suck, and I for one am not the kind of person to tolerate them when they're around me. It's a simple choice, really, they vacate the premises or I do. But fortunently I don't have to vacate, all my friends are just like me. No one of my friends can understand that kind of violence. As for bisexual and gay/lesbian friends, I must have a ton of them. And you know what, it's never an issue. Never. So the whole M.S. incident really shook a lot of us up out here in California, and stirred a lot of anger and sadness. ::goes over to the Tree and places a dragon carved out of jade at the base of the tree::. Anyhow, you want weird dreams? I'll give you weird dreams. Try a guitar chord thats hundreds of feet long, suspended within the air and surrounded by fog. And when ever my mother tries to speak to me, the guitar vibrates and causes me to scream in pain from the feeling in my ears. And I've even woken myself up screaming from that nightmere too. I hate that thing. Let us see, there must be more on my mind.....OH! There was a hostage crisis two doors down from me a week ago. Some nut that the owners of the house knew broke into the house and held the lady of the house hostage at gun point. THe SWAT team was called in and everything. Unfortunintly, the guy shot her and then himself before the SWAT team could stop him. I was shocked out of a nice contemplative writing spell by those three shotgun blasts. Brrrrr...gives me goose bumps.... Ok, cmon, I've just gotta have some ob misty in here....oh, now I remember! << To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: fluff but important i think..... bear with me Message-ID: <362D6374.B5A658AF-+AT+-BellSouth.Net> ***warning...if there are any mispellings or strange letters lurking, it is because I am receiving typing help from a 13 month old..... Morgaine wrote: > Ob-misty: what do you think is the legal structure in Valdemar? > Heralds hold court in the province, but there must be a stronger presence > of law Valdemar has a system of judges in place besides the Heralds. The Heralds are judges in places that are too small tohave their own judge, or in cases in which the local judge may be too closely involved to be impartial. ******************************************************************** HEUBERGER KATRIN wrote: > Heyla all, > > I read about your Karse and ALberich-ideas for new books. > Recently I reread the Vanyel-trilogie again and I deeply miss all his > years as a fresh Herald. > The first book ended than he was still a (sorry)"Teenie" and the > second started than he was 28. > Perhaps it would not fill a whole book but I also read a book with > Valdemar-short stories and if I'm not mistaken there even was one > short story about Vanyel. But as you will notice: I'm greedy: MORE! > > What do you think about it? I believe the short story is in Sword of Ice, and yes there is a short story about Vanyel in there. I too would love to read about his early years as a herald and the trials to gain acceptance from the other Heralds that he went through. ******************************************************************* On pronounciation. Tylendel I pronounce like Tylenol but with a del instead of nol Tayledras ---tay Lay dras Vanyel rhymes with Daniel Yfandes yi-FAN des Selenay Sell uh nay Karal Kar Ahl Cymry Sim ree ******************************************************************** Marv Watson wrote: > HEYLA LISTSIBS!!!!!! > > ::a low thread of music spills over into the halls as the figure of Skywolf > > and Misha appear, snapping their fingers along with that blood stirrin' > beat:: > ohhh don't we all just love Harry Connick Jr? oh baby oh baby :;wipes drool > > from lip:: I love his voice and he is simply adorable. yummmmy ******************************************************************* Stupid joke I rec'd from another list Blond Breast Stroke Competition A blonde woman competed with a brunette woman and a redheaded woman in the Breast Stroke division of an English Channel swim competition. The brunette came in first, the redhead second. The blonde woman finally reached shore completely exhausted. After being revived with blankets and coffee she remarked, "I don't want to complain, but I think those other two girls used their arms." ******************************************************************* Since Katie has been so good and not typed, I will let her.. This is from her........ ngngc7bbbjumc 4 rd dx jjnjxxxxxx333 nbjjj,zxxzzzzz81`````1zszlll c cx ******************************************************************** good night Judy -- "Insanity takes its toll.....Please have exact change" "Where the hell are the singin' cats?" -- Paul Newman "Surely, you can't be serious!" "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:41:28 -0700 From: Peter Allen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Names/books/dreams/wishes Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981021004128.0080ee70-+AT+-pop3.frontiernet.net> I had happened to listen to Misty and a few others talking at a convention once, and they used van-YELL, and VAUGHN-yell interchangeably. Also, has anyone tried to carry a long note on the first syllable when it is pronounced VAN-yell? *shudder* Lady Brynn wrote: >>i too think it should be Van-yell but doesn't misty suggest Vaghn-yhel? i think that sounds prissy... like van at the beginning. but then you would also have to say "Vaghn" insteada "Van"!! ick!!<< Ah, but remember that this is a courtly name, and not just one of the 'commoners.' I may sound a bit unreasoned, I suppose, but aren't those that are at court always trying to sound more up-class? In that event, and with Van growing up at court, I can easily see how they would go around calling him Vaughn. I would also note that the use of Van over Vaughn is something particular to our culture and its tastes :). My impression of some other ones (accent that I have): Tayledras Teh-LAY-druhs Selenay SEH-leh-nay shaych'a'chern SHAISH-a-SHERN Tylendel TIH-len-del Talia TAH-lee-ah Yfandes EE-fan-dehs ekele Eh-KEE-lee wyrsa WEER-sa hertasi HAIR-tah-see Cymry SIM-ree Natoli NA-toe-lee --- Heather wrote: >>I'm running out of Velgarth books to read (arrgghh) and I feel a little "apprehensive" about reading Mistys other books...will I be disappointed when I read them?<< I particularly liked both the Firebird and Fire Rose. Each is a new variation on an old story, and, imo, done nicely :). I have read the first of the Free Bards books, and from what I have been told, it was the best of the group. I'm kind of hesitant to pick up the others, but my need to know a world to the author's most complete works will probably outweight it at some point :). Oh, and as far as the Chrome Circle books, the ones that I did read I enjoyed nicely :). When the Bough Breaks had a fairly dark tone to it, however the characters were presented well, and the dark tones were done well too. Sometimes it is hard to read about the topic that appears in that book... *shrug* I believe it was a good thing to know, though. --- My dreams tend to drift on different subjects. If I find myself immmersed in a book in my waking life, then I will at times have, if not a dream about the book, then usually I will have a vision of myself in that sort of subject in my dreaming life. For example, when I was reading a good deal of fantasy before (well, more than usual ;), I had a dream that I was a female warrior on a huge battlefield (picture someone like Kero, but not as big *g*), which was ~quite~ interesting, seeing as I'm a guy *g*. The viewpoint in my dreams tends to either be first or third person, depending on the subject of the dream. For those like above, it is usually third person, as if I am watching a movie, but can feel the emotions inside the person, and sense what they do (I've had dreams where I have been with horses, smelled them ~very~ clearly, and then when I actually met a horse found it to be almost the same). However, if I am talking with a friend in my dreams, then I happen to use the first person, as I would be while in my waking state :). --- Cennydd wrote: >>Hmmmmm. This is definitely something that everyone on this list who has been saying "I want to be Herald" should think about. Here's the reality, folks: faced with a situation like Matthew Shephard, could you really restrain yourself and give real justice or would you be one of the ones howling for revenge?<< Hmmm indeed... At first (meaning were the act to happen, and I was there immediately after with those involved), I would want to kill. Blood rage in me, I suppose... the need for blood to call for blood. After the inital fury, however, I would be very cold and calm, and give justice, which ever way it would come about. Bright thy day, Wintershard Councilor of Mist http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/misty/newbiefest.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:38:57 +0300 From: Tatjana Schwabe To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: dreams, & more Message-ID: <362DD5E0.3D500DDF-+AT+-usa.net> Marv Watson wrote: > >Such similar tastes...::grins:: Um, you do realize that at this rate, > >Jordan won't have finished the Wheel of Time for another hundred years > >or so? Just so you know.... > Hey hey hey!!!!! THe next WHEEL OF TIME book is out and ready to read > everyone! Just check our local bookstore! WHAT!!! I thought the eighth one would be long out by now..... But there are only supposed to be ten books in the series, right?? I just thought it would be nicer to wait, as I read the first four or so and liked them so much, but realised that the story is just too complex to have a year-break in between... so I would have to reread them every time a new one came out..... just thought I could wait because at that time Crown of Swords was already out..... > As for bisexual and gay/lesbian friends, I must have a ton of them. You do? Lucky you, the only bisexual I met was in my biology class in school and we got out of touch about two years ago..... Since then I only met "normal" people..... and most of them too scared to think of themselves as being gay/bisexual, even in the remote possibility..... it would be so nice to confront them with a gay person they could get to know well as friends ....... a bit shocking at first, but they are not really prejudiced I think.... just too un-exposed to the whole thing..... > Anyhow, you want weird dreams? I'll give you weird dreams. Does *everyone* here remember their dreams?? I only remember nightmares, and since I fortunately don't have them very often....... boring nights.... at least when I'm asleep..... Although I had this really scary nightmare two times in a week - it is scary because it is so real: I am sitting in a car, with a perosn I don't know driving it. We talk about the murders he has comitted and why, I keep trying to convince him, that it is wrong. I think that he won't kill me (don't ask me why, it's like in those movies when you think 'come on, you should know that he'll not stop to kill you' but the actors are too stupid). But suddenly he pulls out a knife and jabs it into my side..... I feel myself becoming completely slack, I can't move anything....... just about then I wake up....... > Don't splash me, newbies. I am an oldbie, thank you. I just don't say > much, and misha is currently in her fall hibernation. ; p But you really have splashed me!! I'm a newbie, everyone mails splashes at me and yesterday it was raining so hard that I was soaking wet when I got home..... thank you for this real-world influence!! ;-)) Ob Misty..... Everyone keeps talking about serrated edge, bedlam's bard, motorcycle-steeds and someone's bed they want to jump into......... Are these books good? If I like her Valdemar series, will I be disappointed by the rest? I also read the first of the free bards books and liked it a lot. Four and Twenty Blackbirds however leaves me a bit puzzled..... and I *really* don't like the cover - it looks like a children's book!! Very annoying..... Bright the Day, Tatty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:28:17 +0100 From: "Alexia/Sabrina" To: Subject: Re: Names Message-ID: <016701bdfcf5$f6af1ba0$41c828c3-+AT+-i.casale> >Tayledras - 'tie-LAY-dras' >Selenay - 'SEH-leh-nay' >Karal - 'Karl' >shaych - 'shy (ch as in Bach)' >Randale - 'Ran-DAHL' >Shin'a'in - 'shee-na-EEN' >Vanyel - 'Daniel' with a V >hertasi - 'hair-TAH-zee' or 'ehr-TAH-zee' >ekele - 'eh-KEH-leh' >wyrsa - 'WIHR-sah' Here's a dyslexic's version! oooo look at all the wrong ordered letters totally new words I think! Ta-lay-dras sel-an-ay Karal- Karel Shaych- shy-ash Randale- ran-dale/ ran-dal Shin'a'in- shin-a-in Vanyel- Van- yel Hertasi- Her-asti Ekele- elk-ay Wyrsa- Wry-sa Yfandes- I- fan-dees Tylendel- Tie-len-dell Natoli- Nat-toe-lee/ nat-TOE-lee / nat-o-lee How about stefan... does it sound like an f or a V... and same with staven- for example in welsh if would be sta-fen... What do y'all think? As to Ghost knowing Tashir didn't murder anyone- there is a point made somewhere... think in Arrows... that companions can see into people's hearts etc so they do KNOW... they are a type of avatar after all! Good mix ups huh?! and some people say I'm not dyslexic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <- I wouldn't count. Dreams... I had a companion like dream last night... very weird but that part was lovely... I dream a lot about finding tacked up horses in the middle of roads and going for rides... re: vengance- well there are one or two... well probably one issue which is a personal one that I know I COULDN'T be fair on and so I would try to refrain from passing any judgement on the 'criminal'- I would find someone else who could be fair and let them do it because otherwise I'd do something I'd regret because it would be bloodthirsty and about MY anger rather than the 'case' at hand. And therefore it could not be just- by definition. Did that make any sense? Capital punnishment: a very difficult question... > There are some people who should NOT live freely in society because they are a danger to others. Then the question is- is it more cruel to kill them or keep them locked up forever in the hope of 'healing' them? And how about the implications for taxpayers... it's mercenary but that's the way thwe world is- it costs possibly hundreds of thousands to keep someone in prison for the extent of their life... In terms of 'paying for your crimes' and is life life or 25 years... well I believe if the person will or has a good chance of going out and harming people then they cannot be released in all fairness because they will probably hurt more than one person who has no IDEA what is going on. The problem with the law is that it is GENERAL... and people aren't... and cases aren't. In terms of killing the killer... if you saw it as a choice between letting them hurt someone or killing them/ keepin them locked up for their entire lives ... I would HAVE to say that it is a balance and several lives are heavier in that balance than the one. Personally... well I don't know what I think but I do believe that either capital punnishment or life sentancing can be necessary- I don't know which is crueler personally and I don't want to have to figure it out because at that point there's not a lot in it in terms of human rights. Re: Talia's punnishment at the end of AFlight: If he ever broke free of the memories he would be executed for his crimes as then he wouldn't be insane anymore... very dry-double-edged black humour in that. And that is it from me... BTW circle and Nicodemus... I've got flu and I'm trying to stay away from the computer... right now I've got a temperature so I'm being stupid and writing! Alexia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:35:43 -0400 From: efluharty-+AT+-juno.com (Ellen K Fluharty) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: webpages Message-ID: <19981021.103544.4286.0.efluharty-+AT+-juno.com> I'm trying to start my own homepage.....but I'm looking for links to Lackey related stuff. Does anyone know any good ones besides the Firebird site? *looking around the hall hopefully* I remember some of my dreams. Once, I dreamt that I was a warrior/night guarding a king, but in my dream I was a man. A reoccuring dream I have has to do with this house that was built at least two hundred years ago.....there's no electricity or water indoors or anything but an outhouse, it's large, like a plantation house and sits on a broad expanse of land, and when I am there, I talk to a ghost of a little girl who was murdered in her bedroom by her father. It's always really creepy. Hmmm...obMisty, obMisty....ummm....I would recommend her Urban Fantasy books to anyone who wants to branch out from Valdemar. Granted, some are better than others, but I think that they're all worth reading. As far as what kind of character I'd be if I were in a fantasy novel....I found a quote last night that says it better than I could: No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be; Am an attendant lord, one that will do To swell a progress, start a scene or two, Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool, Deferential, glad to be of use, Politic, cautious, and meticulous; Full of high sentence but a bit obtuse....." T.S. Eliot (Of course, Eliot was talking more about the role he played in life I think....still, I've always liked it.) (That's from "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock") Oh I almost forgot......I brought new fuzzy wuzzy towels for all the sploshed newbies....*passes them out* Are there any cookies left? Ellen shena Liha'irden Lady in Green Keeper of Ingrid, the boogie woogie beanie lamb (Who supports Ingrid Blythe and CfWD.!) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:53:01 +0200 From: "HEUBERGER KATRIN" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: other Books of MIsty Message-ID: <4A0FD551C2F-+AT+-fsrz1.rz.uni-passau.de> Heyla all, We should really audio-tape our Pronounciations of these names. I always have to think crisscross, does this spelling means the same I think it means or is it mor English-related or... Funny. I pronounce all the words in the german way. It fits very well. > Tayledras Teh-LAY-druhs Ta-I-le-drasz > Selenay SEH-leh-nay > shaych'a'chern SHAISH-a-SHERN Am I wrong or isn't it: shay'a'chern? I pronounce it: SHaei-ah-schoern (Definitly not german pronounced) > Tylendel TIH-len-del Taai-leen-del > Talia TAH-lee-ah I agree > Yfandes EE-fan-dehs > ekele Eh-KEE-lee agree > wyrsa WEER-sa wuer-sa (ue-not like "Clue" -uu but u-e ) > Cymry SIM-ree K-uem-ree To Heather: I can recomand any book of the Serrated Edge line of Mercedes Lackey. THe book about Diana Tregard is very good, too. The Bardic Novels can't be compared with the Velgarath but they are nevertheless fine to read. Yesterday I discovered www.amazon.com in GErmany: www.amazon.de and voila: 50 Bestselling books under Mercedes Lackey. I think I bought around 15 new ones. Has any one of you read Owlflight (or so) ? Sunshine to all, Tai ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:04:23 PDT From: "Rhiannon Shadowsong" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: braid Message-ID: <19981021190424.11877.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Help. I'm depressed and I'm angry and I'm having trouble coping. This morning on the school announcements the said that the Coastgaurd found a body and they've tentatively identified it as Fredy Canales'. Fredy was a friend of mine; we were in the same Spanish class, and if not for him I would probably have failed. And now the rumour mills are grinding away... The first I heard was that he killed himself, the second thathe was shot or stabbed--murdered, anyway. The Coastguard and police say that the cause of death hasn't been identified, but that could easily mean they're deciding between a stab wound and drowning. And most people were like "Fredy? Who is he?" or "Who cares about Fredy?" I do damn it! I feel better now that I've talked to people, even if you didn't know him... Windy: >Short post Warning! I just realized that I don't say Tuh-len-dul, I say Tlen- >dul. Like, only two syllables. how does everyone say Yfandes? i say Yuh- >fan-deez. I say it like it was spanish. ee-FAN-dehs. More on ponunciation... Zai'helleva: zi-HELL-eh-va Cymry: SIM-ree Karal: ka-RAHL Shin'a'in: SHIN-ah-in ekele: EH-keh-leh haertasi: hair-TAH-see Natoli: like Natalie (I think some of her characters' names are jst spelled diff than in RL) Yvonne: >My gripe is that can someone >who is in eternal torment stop, step back and say "My, what I did was >wrong. I regret what I did." Well, they don't have to actually say it.Its emphathic so it can be on the deepest subconscious level, and still stop. And if he ever does come out of it, the rougher country ideas of justice will be applied... That appeals to me immensely. Judy Wood: >Since Katie has been so good and not typed, I will let her.. This is >from her........ Hey! My name is Katie! You know, no matter how many other Katies I meet, I stil enjoy meetin others.... It's like having fun at your birthday, even though you've had so many. Pointless, but fun. Ellen: >I'm trying to start my own homepage.....but I'm looking for links to >Lackey related stuff. Does anyone know any good ones besides the >Firebird site? *looking around the hall hopefully* Well, I have no Misty parts (I leave that to people with more of an attention span) but you could always link to me anyway... shameless selfpromotion--> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/3965 Well,that covers everything I wanted to respond to, so I'll go work on the recently promoted page I've been neglecting.... zai'helleva, Rhiannon Shadowsong Elf-Girl Mage-in-Training Friend to Fairies ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:15:28 -0500 From: "Phoenix, Guardian of Harmony" To: Subject: Re: Names Message-ID: <01bdfd27$29ddde40$6a0c9ace-+AT+-tzarius> Alexia wrote: >Ta-lay-dras >sel-an-ay >Karal- Karel >Shaych- shy-ash >Randale- ran-dale/ ran-dal >Shin'a'in- shin-a-in >Vanyel- Van- yel >Hertasi- Her-asti >Ekele- elk-ay >Wyrsa- Wry-sa >Yfandes- I- fan-dees >Tylendel- Tie-len-dell >Natoli- Nat-toe-lee/ nat-TOE-lee / nat-o-lee > >How about stefan... does it sound like an f or a V... and same with staven- >for example in welsh if would be sta-fen... What do y'all think? > Personally, mine are Tayledras=Tay-LEE-drass Selenay=Sel-u-NAY Karal=KAR-all shaych=Shaysh Randale=Ran-DALE Vanyel=vun-YELL Hertasi= AIR-ta-see ekele= Ay-kay-lay Yfandes= Ee-fun-DEES Tylendel= tee-lun-DELL and Natoli=nu-TOE-lee but that's me Fireheart yadda yadda yadda ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1760 **********************************