MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1773

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) drugs/crime/media/LHM/hallowe'en/chihuahua/Stef/fluff
	by "Nelson Greenslade" <grenslde-+AT+-nbnet.nb.ca>
  2) Laven, palm readers, etc.
	by "Amber Hasty" <firedancektreva-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  3) Re: Laven, palm readers, etc.
	by Tylendel Dotzauer <dotzauer.4-+AT+-osu.edu>
  4) Re: names, dreams, elspeth & more
	by Jolizith-+AT+-aol.com
  5) Re: drugs/crime/media/LHM/hallowe'en/chihuahua/Stef/fluff
	by "Angie" <heraldtg-+AT+-mbox3.singnet.com.sg>
  6) Psychic/Rain/Pathos
	by "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  7) Re:  SADD
	by Autumnleaf-+AT+-t-online.de (Marion)
  8) you know it's a lousy braid attempt...
	by MacFey <macfey-+AT+-yahoo.com>

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:50:45 -0400
From: "Nelson Greenslade" <grenslde-+AT+-nbnet.nb.ca>
To: "Misty" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: drugs/crime/media/LHM/hallowe'en/chihuahua/Stef/fluff
Message-ID: <019801be06b4$56451340$6862a4c6-+AT+-epzfbrwg>

<<Misty doesn't seem
to deal with drug abuse much, if at all, in her books>>
   You've never actually read "Knight of Ghosts and Shadows", "Children of
the Night", or "Jinx High", have you? Eric was a druggie, Di's ex-boyfriend
became a vamp doing drugs, most of the teenagers in JH did drugs....

<<I would
imagine that there must be natural and magical substances which would
act as drugs on Velgarth>>
   There are indeed. Van was given a pain killer that was potentially
habit-forming and/or lethal because it was the only thing strong enough to
knock him out, and in "The Oathbreakers", Idra's brother took a drug in a
powdered form, "dream dust" or something. And wasn't Stefen's "guardian",
that old woman, a drug addict?.

<<how do the Heralds handle people who have
committed a serious crime, but not one which demands a death sentence>>
   I think that law-enforcement in Valdemar rarely involves inprisonment,
but instead utilises community service with the occasional and inevitable
(and usually heat-of-the-moment) execution. I'm also pretty sure that many
Heralds resort to the occasional public humiliation, but remeber, there is
one founding law common everywhere in Valdemar, and that is that there is no
"one true way".
   Now, outside of Valdemar is different. Leslac was imprisoned for a 30
days and nights for blaspheming against Tarma's religion in one of his
songs, and I think in Rethwellen there are prisons and supervised labor, and
in the Empire there's hard labor and execution, both discreet and public.

<<perhaps becuase its not fun to read
about
  dull, ugly ppl>>
    Or when you do read about something happening to an "ordinary" person,
they suddenly turn beautiful. Ick, no wonder my conception of reality is a
mess. I was raised on that kind of book.

<<Americans that you
see on television do not represent the majority.  There are quite a few
decent people in this country.>>
   Unfortunately those of us in other countries rarely see them because the
American media seems to thrive on catastrophe. We get local channels from
towns in Maine and there's the usual amount of macabre and chilling, or just
plain intrusive news, but there's also the occasional story of a boy
rescuing a stranded kitten, or a man sacraficing his safety for a family of
strangers, etc., just like our local news. Unfortunately, the rest of the
country doesn't seem to need to hear about as much as the stories of massive
unemployment, horrendous crimes, and other gruesome tales.

<<(Though I still support Canada For World Domination!)
;-)>>
    As you should! ^_~

<<The Eagle:  A Fragment>>
   Glad to see someone else quotes this too!

<<Savil *didn't* tell him!  I just read the book a week ago... She talked it
over with Starwind and Moondance and they decided not to tell either one of
them, although by the end of the novel, *Van* realizes that Stef is 'Lendel
reincarnated based on his ForeSight dream.  It is never mentioned that Stef
himself knows.>>
   Like I said, I could be completely wrong.

<<Magic's Promise always makes me cry,
especially when Van's out on that balcony at Forst Reach... it's too much
like my life... >>
   Ahhh, the balconey scene. Yes, I cry at that every time. Actually, I cry
through every chapter of the whole trilogy! When I'm not bawling my eyes
out, I'm laughing till my sides split and my eyes tear ~anyway~ or I'm
explaining to myself the signifigance of some plot point, which usually
either makes me laugh all over again or sparks a fresh display of
waterworks. Yup, you can tell when I've been ready LHM, which is why I
barely ever read it at school. I've already got enough people pissed at me
for laughing or sniffing loudly during 20 minute read.

<<How do you know this?? :-)>>
   I checked on the Chinese lunar calender. 1982 was the Year of the Dog,
but since the calendar is on a 12-year rotation, there's been more than one,
during my lifetime even, so '82 was specifically the Year of the French
Poodle. Or so I've been told. If anyone out there has proof that '82 was, in
fact, the Year of the Rottweiler or the Doberman I'd be very appreciative.

<<Rain?  I love rain.. I wish we had more...>>
   Yayyy!!! *glomps Ty* I love rain too! Glad I'm not the only one. Yep,
rain is good for many things. Yesterday it flooded many basements in the
area, and so, while causing discomfort to several of my friends, it kept
Anna from visiting Janine, bringing Janine one step closer to her goal of
seeing Simba's Pride before Anna can tell her what happens.

<<OK, this is just bald curiosity, but how do all y'all celebrate
Hallowe'en?>>
   Well, the Town Council keeps trying to change the day or limit the time
and ages allowed. This year Samhaine fell on a Saturday, so that was fine,
but apparently all trick-or-treaters (kids running around in costumes
demanding candy and egging houses) were supposed to be in by 8pm, and no one
over 15 years of age was to be trick-or-treating. Feh. I say again, feh!
Anyhow, I went over to my friend Janine's house to help give out (i.e.
eat) candy, dressed to kill in black, off black, and lots of jewelry. Oh,
and my face was white and my hair was done up...sorta. Anyway, our mutual
good friend John came over, so we sat around all in black clothes (which he
wears anyway), played monopoly, switched accessories and teased Jimmy
(Janine's brother) until "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" came on. How I love
the Time Warp! ^_^

<<You realize, Elsa, this means we were also born in the year of the
yapping chihuahua>>
   As far as I know there is but the one breed specification per year,
however, according to The Past Life game
( http://www.3dom.com/pastlife.html ), my last earthly incarnation was as a
female chihuahua in the north of England during the 1600's. I was apparently
hyperactive, and am now destined to solve all the world's problems. Then
again, if you input the birth date of Darien (a.k.a Mamoru, Mamo-chan,
Prince Endymion, Prince Darian, Tuxedo Mask, and the Moonlight Knight),
subtracting 17 (his age at the start of series) from this year, he is the
exact same with the exception of being male. So.....*shrugs*

   Actually, Ty, I think the reason I liked Stef more than 'Lendel is
because he's more like me, and he's damn ~funny~. 'Lendel, while sweet,
never pulled his hair out for Van. Well, that we know of. Maybe he was just
much better at hiding lust, or maybe it was because Stef knew Van was
shaych, or because he had to chase him. I just liked Stef much better.
*shrugs* Can't quite explain it.

<<LHM is a very emotional series, people drawn in more by pathos would be
more attracted to them>>
   Does this mean I'm pathetic?

<<It is abrupt
that he sees him, falls in love etc, when he was so swept away by
Darkwind... *sighs* But then Firesong always goes for what he wants...>>
   He was on the rebound. Not from Darkwind, who was never more than friends
with him, but from Ande'sha. You know, Falconbane's host body, the one
Firesong was in love with for about 2 books. Awfully fickle....

<<(Small query here--*were* Elspeth and Darkwind lifebonded? I don't
recall it ever being mentioned, though I could be wrong.)>>
   I don't think it was ever said, just assumed. But I think Elspeth
mentioned that she saw all these people life-bonding and wished she
could...and then she met Darkwind....

<<Never got into the Talia ones either.....Strange isn't it.....>>
   Not if you think about from the vantage of the Talia books being Misty's
first foray into Velgarth.

~~~~~~~FLUFF~~~~~~~
   There is the distant sound of howling wind, and the taste of woodsmoke
and icy rain is in the air. The Mists surrounding the Hall part momentarily
to admit a cloaked and hooded rider on dragonback. The pair race
hell-bent-for-leather across the floor, and skid, spinning, to a halt.
   The rider slips off her slippery, sleek mount, who immediately flounces
off to loll by the fires of the Ones In Black. Slender, black-gloved hands
push back the dripping, over-sized hood of the sea-green cloak to reveal a
pale face, flushed with breathless excitement, and a glorious spill of
shining auburn hair.
   Elsa shrugs, sporting a sheepish smile. "I apologise if I'm overly
descriptive, but I just read 'The Scarlet Pimpernel'." Her eyes gleam with a
manic light. "I loved Sir Percy before Vanyel or Danilo!" She smiles,
unclasping the fastening at her neck. The cloak falls to the floor with a
splorch.
   Elsa winks at the Listees availing themselves of the hot springs. "I'll
wager you never even saw me depart!" She laughs for joy before engaging
herself in a light-hearted and nimble dance towards a table of goodies.
~~~~~~~END self-indulgent FLUFF~~~~~~~

Elsa
Knight of Fluff, One In Black, Member of the Order of Drifting Ashes, OoUH
Champion of Jonne, Moonbeam, and Iceshadow, caller of monsters and flake
extrordinaire!

"Turning to go, heard you call out my name
Like a bird in a cage, spreading its wings to fly..."
         -- Loreena McKinnett, "The Old Ways"



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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:18:17 PST
From: "Amber Hasty" <firedancektreva-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Laven, palm readers, etc.
Message-ID: <19981103001818.3569.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Hi ya'll,

Do any of ya'll belive that psychic powers exist? I belive in them, I 
just don't belive that everyone who claims to have them do have them. I 
just got my palm read at school today-it was free and I've always been 
courisous. Besides,I didn't have anything else better to do. It was so 
weird. Either that guy was for real or he was the best con- artist that 
I've ever met. I think he was for real. He knew that I was debating 
about starting a relationship w/ one of my close friends- and I 
haven'ttold anyone about that. He said I worry to much about everything, 
that I have a hard time saying "no" to family and friends, and that I 
put others in front of myself. All true. He told me point blank that I 
need to get out a lot more than I have been. I go to school, work, and 
home. I don't go out much at all. He also told me that I need to start 
putting myself first- not meaning selfish. I've worked at the same 
McDonalds forover 3yrs. Lately, I've been thinking about quitting and 
tring to get a job at the local bookstore. I mean all of my free money 
goes there so I might as well work there. However, I've been putting it 
off b/c I was worried about how Wayne and the others would manage. Has 
anyone else had an experience similar to mine? If so, please TELL me! 
I'm slightly freaked. I mean I'd never seen this man before in my life 
and he knew a lot about me.        

obMisty:
Did Lavan Firestorm live during the same time as Vanyal? In AotQ pg 287, 
Talia says "Lavan Firestorm. I rember now - he almost single-handedly 
drove back the Dark Servants at the Battle of White Foal Pass." Dark 
Servants would certainly describe Lernath's army, don't you think?  

p.s. Could someone please give me a discribtion of the hall? I'm a 
little bit confused. My email addy is FiredanceKTreva-+AT+-hotmail.com

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:29:50 -0500
From: Tylendel Dotzauer <dotzauer.4-+AT+-osu.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Laven, palm readers, etc.
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981102202950.006b1bac-+AT+-pop.service.ohio-state.edu>

At 12:43 AM 11/3/98 +0000, you wrote:
Amber:
>Do any of ya'll belive that psychic powers exist? I belive in them, I 
>just don't belive that everyone who claims to have them >do have them. 

I don't mean to be bragging or whatever... I'm not the kind of person to do
that... but I do believe in psychic powers because I have experienced them
first hand.  One night in October of my 6th grade year I had a dream that
someone was telling me that my 6th grade teacher was dead... we got to
school the next morning and found out that she had in fact passed away.
And I really had loved her, although she was 68 she was in very good health
and it came as a shock to all of us.  Since then I have had many dreams
similar to that <although certainly not on as serious a topic> that have
come true, and many other dreams which have hinted at things that have come
true.  Just this past weekend I had a dream about an argument with my
mother, the very next day I got into an argument with her just like in the
dream.  I have also been told that I "broadcast" pain to other people...
only a couple of times... and one person even told me I have a great
proficiency for ESP if I would learn it.  <Of course, he wanted to teach me
one on one, and I asked several of his close friends and they all advised
against it-- he's a bit of a weird fellow>  But it's always interested me
and freaked me out at the same time.  
However, I have also done some research in astrology-related things and it
is very surprising about how accurate they can be sometimes.  Many people
who claim to be psychics just use that as their guide, and generally end up
being correct.  Sometimes even to the point of it being spooky.  My
favorite authors on this are Gary Goldschneider and Joost Elffers, they
have put out a Birthday book <the thing weighs and costs a ton, but I love
it> and a similar Relationships book which I think are usually dead in the
black.  You can find them at just about any bookstore, if you are
interested, just sit down and look up your birthday or something right in
the store.  It's really interesting.

>I just got my palm read at school today-it was free and I've always been 
>courisous. Besides,I didn't have anything else better to do. It was so 
>weird. Either that guy was for real or he was the best con- artist that 
>I've ever met. I think he was for real. He knew that I was debating 
>about starting a relationship w/ one of my close friends- and I 
>haven'ttold anyone about that. He said I worry to much about everything, 
>that I have a hard time saying "no" to family and friends, and that I 
>put others in front of myself. All true. He told me point blank that I 
>need to get out a lot more than I have been. I go to school, work, and 
>home. I don't go out much at all. He also told me that I need to start 
>putting myself first- not meaning selfish. I've worked at the same 
>McDonalds forover 3yrs. Lately, I've been thinking about quitting and 
>tring to get a job at the local bookstore. I mean all of my free money 
>goes there so I might as well work there. However, I've been putting it 
>off b/c I was worried about how Wayne and the others would manage. Has 
>anyone else had an experience similar to mine? If so, please TELL me! 
>I'm slightly freaked. I mean I'd never seen this man before in my life 
>and he knew a lot about me.        

I don't know about your situation, but there are many methods that can be
used to find things out like this.  It is spooky... but it's probably not a
trait within that man himself.  I'm willing to bet more on something to do
with astrology.

Nelson Greenslade:
>  Ahhh, the balconey scene. Yes, I cry at that every time. Actually, I cry
>through every chapter of the whole trilogy! When I'm not bawling my eyes
>out, I'm laughing till my sides split and my eyes tear ~anyway~ or I'm
>explaining to myself the signifigance of some plot point, which usually
>either makes me laugh all over again or sparks a fresh display of
>waterworks. Yup, you can tell when I've been ready LHM, which is why I
>barely ever read it at school. I've already got enough people pissed at me
>for laughing or sniffing loudly during 20 minute read.

LOL!!  I hate that, when you get a book you've never read before and you're
reading it in a silent study hall at school or something and you get to a
funny part and you HAVE to laugh.  Or try reading _Anguished English_ by
Richard Lederer; after Magic's Pawn it is the book I have bought the most
copies of.  I know it's not fantasy or sci-fi, but it is the MOST hilarious
book I have ever read!  I highly recommend it.  Just try to read it in
short installments or you may die laughing.  ;-)
Is it just me, or are the Hawkbrothers <Starwind and Moondance in
particular... I haven't read any books with others recently...> generally
funny?  Well, Magic's Pawn they had the serious role for the most part, but
Magic's Promise they seemed just _so_ comical!  :-) 

>  Yayyy!!! *glomps Ty* I love rain too! Glad I'm not the only one. Yep,
>rain is good for many things. Yesterday it flooded many basements in the
>area, and so, while causing discomfort to several of my friends, it kept
>Anna from visiting Janine, bringing Janine one step closer to her goal of
>seeing Simba's Pride before Anna can tell her what >happens.

I'm just an AVID puddle jumper.  In fact, it was raining here today... if I
hadn't had to wear my jeans many times over <college life, you know...
laundry every 2 weeks ;-)>
I would have been doing some serious puddle jumping.  Still, I took the
liberty to change my course to _walk_ through the deepest puddles I could
find, so the bottoms of my jeans are a bit damp... but it won't kill
anyone... ;-)
Though it was *COLD* rain today... so that part did suck...

BTW, what the hell is a glomp? ;-)

>   Actually, Ty, I think the reason I liked Stef more than 'Lendel is
>because he's more like me, and he's damn ~funny~. 'Lendel, while sweet,
>never pulled his hair out for Van. Well, that we know of. Maybe he was just
>much better at hiding lust, or maybe it was because Stef knew Van was
>shaych, or because he had to chase him. I just liked Stef much better.
>*shrugs* Can't quite explain it.

Stef does have some redeeming qualities, I did like him much better as I
read the books the second time around.  However, like I mentioned...
'Lendel's point of view is only shown maybe three times in all of Magic's
Pawn... when Savil asks him his opinion of Van, when he's reading the
weatherworking book, and later when he asks Van to play for him.  That's
_all_.  Stef has several chapters all to himself in Magic's Price.  I'm
just an advocate of the existentialist kind of philosophy, so 'Lendel's
laid back yet caring way of doing things really struck a chord with me.
Just personal preference. ;-)

><<LHM is a very emotional series, people drawn in more by pathos would be
>more attracted to them>>
>   Does this mean I'm pathetic?

LOL!!!!!!!  :-) 
That must make me pathetic too! ;-)

-ty
-from the hizouse, home of the fWo
Puddle-Jumper Extraordinaire,
Magic Breeder of Chickens in the Land of Plastic,
http://www.geocities.com/paris/lights/8308
ICQ: 20439692
AOL IM: Tylendel33

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:20:51 EST
From: Jolizith-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: names, dreams, elspeth & more
Message-ID: <c3cb0f94.363e6883-+AT+-aol.com>

In a message dated 10/26/98 3:40:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dotzauer.4-+AT+-osu.edu writes:

<< Does anyone know of other fantasy/sci-fi authors/books that discuss the
 topic of homosexuality/bisexuality in the characters?  Like Magic's Pawn...
 I just think that is very fascinating how ML did that.  
 
 -ty >>

Jennifer Roberson's newest book Sword Born does, but it is the fourth book in
the series and the rest don't (however, there is an interesting example of a
male chauvinist pig in them).  Even though I haven't read any of his books I
have heard Samuel Delany (is that the right name) does (he is also one of the
first sci-fi writers to admit he was black and one of the first sci fi writers
to admit he was gay).  (I tried to read one of his books a long time ago and
found him too wordy, he is, however, considered one of the sci fi greats).
Ellen Kushner does in Swordspoint.  The Porclein Dove also handles this issue
in a truly original fantasy book (by Delia Shermann).  Then there is the short
story book entitled Bending the Landscape (edited by, I think, Nicola Griffith
who is a sci fi author with books on homosexuality/bisexualtity).  Of these
books, I ththe Porclein Dove is the best.  However, there was a lot of French
words sprinkled throughout the book.  Jennifer Roberson is the author that is
closest in style to Mercedes LAckey (my obmisty).  I may write more as I think
of them.

Jolizith

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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:19:43 +0800
From: "Angie" <heraldtg-+AT+-mbox3.singnet.com.sg>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: drugs/crime/media/LHM/hallowe'en/chihuahua/Stef/fluff
Message-ID: <01be0724$3d004ec0$0100007f-+AT+-heraldtg>

heyla.

:   Ahhh, the balconey scene. Yes, I cry at that every time. Actually, I cry
:through every chapter of the whole trilogy! When I'm not bawling my eyes
:out, I'm laughing till my sides split and my eyes tear ~anyway~ or I'm
:explaining to myself the signifigance of some plot point, which usually
:either makes me laugh all over again or sparks a fresh display of
:waterworks.


yes! that's exactly how _I_ behave! :) don't you just love it? i always stop
reading before the bad parts happened. too traumatic. then i carry on... i love
reading out the parts, playing *erhem* who else? ;)

about the year of the dog:
you know, how does anyone know if it was french poodle, or doberman or
chihuahua? i thought it was just plain "dog"! and i'm chinese...in asia!
*sheepish*

<<Rain?  I love rain.. I wish we had more...>>

I LOVE RAIN!!!!! it's great! i need it, especially in sunny asia... just love
the monsoon season...

:   He was on the rebound. Not from Darkwind, who was never more than friends
:with him, but from Ande'sha. You know, Falconbane's host body, the one
:Firesong was in love with for about 2 books. Awfully fickle....


yeah. that's why we love him... ;) don't you just love him when he's like that?
;)

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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:48:13 PST
From: "Raven Darkblade" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Psychic/Rain/Pathos
Message-ID: <19981103164814.3495.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

<<Do any of ya'll belive that psychic powers exist? I belive in them, I 
just don't belive that everyone who claims to have them do have them.>>

Ooh, I dunno on this one. I keep up with my horoscope (Gemini. Also Year 
of the Monkey. I get stuck with all the weird stuff. I appreciate the 
mythos behind it, but--I dislike monkeys. I'd rather be a Horse or a 
Snake or a Dragon or a Tiger. Furthermore, d'you know how hard it is to 
find a Gemini logo that looks even marginally interesting? And have you 
noticed that June never gets the good pictures on calendars? Such is my 
life. My birth flower is the rose, that's a plus, but my stone is the 
pearl. Woo, major cop-out here; they never put pearls in any of that 
birthstone jewelry so I get stuck with alexandrite. Bleh. Why couldn't I 
have had sapphire or ruby? But I suppose it's better than peridot. Done 
ranting...) and occasionally indulge in similar things, but psychic 
powers? Firstly, I hate that the word 'psychic' is used so freely, 
because I occasionally try to use it in a more literal translation ('of 
the soul') and everybody looks at me funny... Secondly, there's no way 
to prove most of this stuff. Give me something cut and dried, like 
telepathy or telekinesis. I think it's be all kinds of cool to be 
telepathic or telekinetic. As for the rest--it leaves me alone, I leave 
it alone, everything's groovy, amen.

<<LOL!!  I hate that, when you get a book you've never read before and 
you're reading it in a silent study hall at school or something and you 
get to a funny part and you HAVE to laugh.>>

Perverse little me laughs anyhow, gets funny looks, and (after the first 
few times) is written off as a loss to the world of sanity. By the time 
I hit high school, everyone just kind of left me alone. At least, the 
adults did. The kids still tried to trip me when I read while I walked.

<<Is it just me, or are the Hawkbrothers <Starwind and Moondance in
particular... I haven't read any books with others recently...> 
generally funny?  Well, Magic's Pawn they had the serious role for the 
most part, but Magic's Promise they seemed just _so_ comical!>>

Oh, I don't know... you get the Wise Old Man on the Mountain persona 
going and there's *going* to be some comic relief. Just look at Yoda.


<<Yayyy!!! *glomps Ty* I love rain too! Glad I'm not the only one. Yep, 
rain is good for many things. Yesterday it flooded many basements in the 
area...>>

I like rain. However, I liked it a lot better before I came to college 
and found myself walking everywhere.

What I really like is a storm. Thunder, lightning, wind--it's 
exhilarating.

<<and so, while causing discomfort to several of my friends, it kept 
Anna from visiting Janine, bringing Janine one step closer to her goal 
of seeing Simba's Pride before Anna can tell her what happens.>>

Simba's Pride. Erk. Take it away... get a stick and kill it!

Sorry. I'm having small problems with Disney at the moment dealign with 
a few of the straight-to-video sequels they've come out with. 
Specifically Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World. They have broken a 
cardinal rule of my universe with that one and I still haven't gotten 
over it yet.

That's not to say I didn't watch Mulan, love it, and buy the 
soundtrack--Disney's making an impressive comeback along the lines of 
attractive heroes, aren't they? They made real progress in Sleeping 
Beauty and then kind of ditched it for a while, but John Smith and 
Whatshisface from Mulan... Hello! Yes, I'm aware they're animated, 
shuttup.

The pathos line, which I inadvertently snipped, and which is to be my 
obMisty...

Hey, I resemble that remark! I'm in it for the dry humor.

Zha'hai'allav'a,
Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven,
Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves,
Member of the Mistic Circle,
Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes, Advocator of 
Eldan, Champion of Kethra and Hyllarr, and Devotee of Maclyn.

abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:45 +0100
From: Autumnleaf-+AT+-t-online.de (Marion)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:  SADD
Message-ID: <m0zakVZ-0007USC-+AT+-fwd00.btx.dtag.de>

Heyla, my most dearest listsibs:

After all those months of lurking I finally found a topic intersting enough to 
comment.

Greg Wooledge wrote:
> The only time a drug addict should be imprisoned, IMHO, is when they
> have committed some other crime (e.g., manslaughter).  At that point, the
> drug abuse has reached the point where he/she is a danger to society, and
> must be removed for the protection of others.  

I totally agreed with you here. Unfortunately, if you commit a crime in 
Germany while under the influence of drugs or alcohol your punishment will be 
less severe. In fact, you might even go free because you didn't know what you 
were doing. Isn't that just great? First, you slaughter you husband or wife and 
than you get drunk till your nearly unconscious before the police finds you so 
the court won't punish you.

A friend of mine lost her fiancé to a drunken driver. The driver wasn't punished 
in the least because the "accident" happened when it was dark and raining and he 
had not been able to see someone walking on the grass beside the road, let alone 
on the opposite lane. The court found my friend's fiancé was partially guilty 
because he wore dark clothes and, as he must have seen the oncoming lights, did 
not step farther into the meadow.
When my boy-friend flipped the finger at someone who had just tried to hit our 
car with his, he had to pay DM 1,000.-- to two charity organisations.
That is German justice.

*The meager woman with the read hair looks sheepishly about her, steps of the 
soap-box and puts on a fool`s cap*

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Elsa wrote:
>"Make sure she learns the rules," he repeated softly, "and then, above
>all, teach her to question them."

This is great! Just love it! But, hey, when I tried it as a kid they weren't so 
happy about it. In fact, it got me quite a reputation. One, I can't get rid off.

Elsa also worte:
>    *holds up huge "I LOVE VAN" sign* Sorry, I never really got into the
>Arrows books. The only person I liked was Skif. I wish he'd stayed like that
>and not gone all.... moony and, well, serious in the Winds series.

Yep, I know what you mean. He seemed like to different people sharing the same 
name. Is this what growing up means? (Don't know because with only 13 more days 
till I turn 30, I haven't yet.) I liked the Wind books because they told you 
what heroes and heroines do in their spare time, i.e. when the world doesn`t 
need saving. At least, that was the case in the first 1 1/2 books. I still 
despised Elspeth but that has to do with her being the Royal Brat. I just 
couldn`t see her as a person, only as a child. (And I really don't know what to 
do with children. Always feel uncomfortable around them.)

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Poor Rhiannon Shadowsong! *big hug from Torell the Jester* You know, a cold 
comes three days, stays three days and goes three days. Meanwhile, try drinking 
warm lemon juice with honey (it has not boiled, for otherwise the vitamins and 
helpful stuff would die instead of the nasty little organisms that caused the 
cold). *With this and a very pleased grin, he pours the contents of a big 
lemon-shaped tea pot onto Rhianon* Get well soon!

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Comforting sheep with your favourite scent to anybody out there who is suffering 
at the moment

Wind to Thy Wings
Shantaya Autumnleaf
and TOrell, the Jester
Possessed by cats including Oskar the Wonder Cat who wants to be a rescue dog 
when he is grown up


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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:10:08 -0800 (PST)
From: MacFey <macfey-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: Misty List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: you know it's a lousy braid attempt...
Message-ID: <19981103201008.14413.rocketmail-+AT+-send104.yahoomail.com>

Heyla,

I shudder as my patience with yahoo grows thin...  

Takes a deep breath and is reminded by my dragon-spirit-friend that I
must not loose the terrible temper I have been given for vengeance as
I attempt not to pulverize the cpu before me...  

OK back to reality (if that was possible!)


Firedance K'Treva wrote--
Has 
anyone else had an experience similar to mine? If so,
please TELL me! 
I'm slightly freaked. I mean I'd never seen this man
before in my life 
and he knew a lot about me.   


Alas... I'm not alone!  A native american friend of mine took me with
him to a gathering of the clans and one older man walked up to me and
started telling me stuff about my past and my present and my future. 
He even knew I was gay and I hadn't told anyone this yet.  It scared
the pants off me, needless to say, and my friend told me he did it all
the time... touched by the spirit he called it.  The man gave me a
rock and a feather and told me my protectors would come to me when I
needed them the most.  Since then I have began to believe more in the
realms of the spiritual and paranormal than ever before.  (By the way
my animals are the dragonfly, wolf, and owl.) 

I'm not sure If I believe in palmestry as a science, but I do know
that if a person has some psychic skill touch can intensify the
"reading".    



Some one wrote --  (sorry I lost you)
Does anyone else wish Firesong received more
attention? He is one
:of my favorite chacters and he only got in depth
attention in the 2nd
:Storm book. I personally want to know more about him.

Next to Van and 'Lendel I know Firesong is my favorite, sometimes I
think it's a three-way (now that could get interesting -- yanks mind
out of the gutter --)  tie over who's on top. (Ooops didn't yank hard
enough.

Yes, I would like a book where Firesong is more central.  Maybe a
character like him would suffice my craving though... I don't know. 
He's flashy, confident and utterly wonderful.  I don't know if he
could be copied.  


As for the rain thing going on... 

I love the rain.  I love thunderstorms, watching lightning, standing
in the wet wind as it whirls about. 
I like Hurricanes... but tornadoes scare the pants off me.  I enjoy
the smell of wet earth, the slick feeling of water on rocks.  

Rain at the beach is the best though.  The crash and rumble of the
waves breaking on the shore. The thunder causing the air to vibrate
and lightning striking the water, sizzling electrical waves of energy
up and down your skin.  

And mud... I used to love to wrestle around in the mud, now I like to
at least walk though it, feeling it all squishy between my toes.    

Enough said... you get the picture. 
==
I don't suffer insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!

              Wind To Thy Wings....

                                  MacFey


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