MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1890 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Gryphlets by "Abigail Laughlin" 2) gryphlets, SOI , bohemian rhapsody by "Herald Katherine" 3) Re: Gryphlets by Lynne Walker 4) RE: blindnes by Sheridan Hoy 5) Re: handicapped characters by Paige 6) Re: blindnes by Paige 7) Re: gryphlets by Paige ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:58:29 PST From: "Abigail Laughlin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gryphlets Message-ID: <19990227185830.5516.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> <> Two. I don't have my copy of Winds here to see what Elspeth (or Need, if that's who you meant) was referring to, but it probably lumped in one of the other females--Need herself, or Nyara, or somesuch. But there are only two gryphlets. Another shameless plug here for the Circle of Stone RP list--we have an actual list you can join now; there's a subscription box on the homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/CoS.html. Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, Member of the Mistic Circle, Webmaster of the Circle of Stone, Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes, Advocator of Eldan, Champion of Kethra and Hyllarr, Devotee of Maclyn, and Worshipper of Tal Rufen. abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:44:29 PST From: "Herald Katherine" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: gryphlets, SOI , bohemian rhapsody Message-ID: <19990227204429.13063.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> heyla, all hmmmm, where to begin?? okay, first of all, about this whole gryphlet thing. my best assumption about all of this is probably that falconsbane's interference caused more damage than some of us thought (myself included). either that, or it was a fault in the plot. but probably not, because misty wouldn't let that happen! i uh... hope not, anyway. -(laughs uneasily)- well, on the topic of the sword of ice book, i don't know about anyone else, but i really didn't see anything particularly exciting about it. i bought it because, well, like i said before, there really aren't that many misty titles hanging around here, and i wanted my hands on as many as i could find. but there really wasn't much to it. oh well, i hope you guys got more out of it than i did, at any rate. okay, well no more negativity, i promise. (katie looks around for a moment and prays that no one is looking while she crosses her fingers behind her back.) i sort of accidentally, well, kind of, sort of DELETED that copy of that bohemian rhapsody parody. oops :( so maybe if one of you guys is nice enough, and still have that hanging around, maybe you could get around to forwarding it to me. PLEASE? i really miss it. okay, last thing, i swear just out of curiosity, how many people subscribe to this list, anway? if you know or have a good guesstimate, i really would like to find out. okay, gotta finish up, the sheep are starting to chew the end of my bedspread. (katie sits back for a moment and analyzes her sheep joke, and even though she was never there for the beginning of the whole sheep epic, pats herself on the back for a good attempt at fitting in). -+AT+-----}----- A rose for my fellow list-sibs "There is no such thing as a coincidence, only mortals who have not fought the winds of fate." Wind to thy wings, Herald Katherine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:08:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Walker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gryphlets Message-ID: <19990228030830.1199.rocketmail-+AT+-send206.yahoomail.com> Heyla all, ---Abigail Laughlin wrote: > > < comes, and the heralds, Darkwind, etc. Wait in hiding so they can > attack him, Need is left to protect the gryphlets, and she ends up > removing Falconsbane's taint from them. Now, when Elspeth first asks > Need to protect the gryphlets, she says there are two girls, and one > bow, but later there are only two, Lytha & jerven(I probably spelled > those wrong). If anyone can explain this to me, please do. Are there > two gryphlets, or three?>> > It's in Winds of Fate (p. 429, pb) and the "bait" referred to would seem to be the two gryphlets and Nyara. She couldn't protect herself against Falconsbane so Need took care of her & the gryphlets. This is my take anyways. Do we have a new Avatar of Nomenclamature yet? I need to know who to bribe, cough, tithe to. WTTW, Lady Starlight (soon to be hopefully) Goddess of Masques _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:46:51 +1300 From: Sheridan Hoy To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" Subject: RE: blindnes Message-ID: <01BE6349.1318AFE0-+AT+-port43.ts2.auck.sinesurf.co.nz> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE6349.132978C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ShadowWolf wrote: It would also be interesting to have a character that has=20 difficulty walking. The reason I say that is I use a wheelchair to get=20 around. I have always wondered what changed in Talia's life after her=20 feet were crushed. About the miner in the Sword of Ice, I think Misty described the=20 bitterness of many disabled people very well with that character. I'm=20 not saying that I'm never bitter, sometimes I am. However, there are=20 people that live in bitterness like that miner. Have you read the Winds books?. I am sure that the Herald that escorted = the two Karsite priests (Karal and ?)to Haven had some trouble walking, = but he was completely at ease on his Companion. Also, his Companion = helped him mount and dismount. It is in the first book at the beginning. Also at the end of the series Karal loses his sight and has to use = Altra's eyes. Seems the Spirit Companions help in more ways than one. 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-0500 From: Paige To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: handicapped characters Message-ID: <36D97DA8.17BA-+AT+-sympatico.ca> charlotte distefano wrote: > > I'm npt too sure, but I think that the mating flight was not quite > complete when Falsonsbane shot Hydona. Also, I ad aquestios > concerning gryphlets. In on of the winds books, Winds of Change I > think, when Falconsbane comes, and the heralds, Darkwind, etc. Wait > in hiding so they can attack him, Need is left to protect the > gryphlets, and she ends up removing Falconsbane's taint from them. > Now, when Elspeth first asks Need to protect the gryphlets, she says > there are two girls, and one bow, but later there are only two, Lytha > & jerven(I probably spelled those wrong). If anyone can explain this > to me, please do. Are there two gryphlets, or three? Thanks > Charlotte, > Lightsong There are two gryphlets. Need was protecting Dawnfire Lytha and Jerven (IIRC Lytha is female Jerven is male). Thus the two females were Dawnfire and Lytha. Ellen K Fluharty wrote: > > When I was younger, my parents did try to censor my reading. I'll never > forget being a freshman in high school and watching my father trash my > copies of The Hobbit and my Lord of The Rings trilogy. Trashed the Hobbit??? Isn't that considered a childs book. What could he find fault with in a fairy tale? -- Paige GO LEAFS!!! proud to be Outlandish My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves me completly. (to e-mail double the p and take out the "reston") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:17:38 -0500 From: Paige To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: blindnes Message-ID: <36D98842.7EAA-+AT+-sympatico.ca> Sheridan Hoy wrote: > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE6349.132978C0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ShadowWolf wrote: > > It would also be interesting to have a character that has=20 > difficulty walking. The reason I say that is I use a wheelchair to get=20 > around. I have always wondered what changed in Talia's life after her=20 > feet were crushed. When she appears in other books shes fine. She hasa slight limp in By the Sword, but runs to Elspeth in Winds of Fury. > Have you read the Winds books?. I am sure that the Herald that escorted = > the two Karsite priests (Karal and ?)to Haven had some trouble walking, = > but he was completely at ease on his Companion. Also, his Companion = > helped him mount and dismount. It is in the first book at the beginning. > Also at the end of the series Karal loses his sight and has to use = > Altra's eyes. Seems the Spirit Companions help in more ways than one. IIRC Rubrick was paralyzed on one side. He did walk with a cane, and rode a little stiffly. > Bright the Day, > > tamlin Let's see. There was also Jadus, needed a cane and there was the student working on the boiler who lost his legs. In Storm Rising I believe, and he was making plans for artificial legs or a "wheeled chair" -- Paige GO LEAFS!!! proud to be Outlandish My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves me completly. (to e-mail double the p and take out the "reston") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:23:27 -0500 From: Paige To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: gryphlets Message-ID: <36D9899F.5339-+AT+-sympatico.ca> Paige wrote: > > charlotte distefano wrote: > > > > I'm npt too sure, but I think that the mating flight was not quite > > complete when Falsonsbane shot Hydona. Also, I ad aquestios > > concerning gryphlets. In on of the winds books, Winds of Change I > > think, when Falconsbane comes, and the heralds, Darkwind, etc. Wait > > in hiding so they can attack him, Need is left to protect the > > gryphlets, and she ends up removing Falconsbane's taint from them. > > Now, when Elspeth first asks Need to protect the gryphlets, she says > > there are two girls, and one bow, but later there are only two, Lytha > > & jerven(I probably spelled those wrong). If anyone can explain this > > to me, please do. Are there two gryphlets, or three? Thanks > > Charlotte, > > Lightsong > There are two gryphlets. Need was protecting Dawnfire Lytha and Jerven > (IIRC Lytha is female Jerven is male). Thus the two females were > Dawnfire and Lytha. > Since everyone else said it was Nyara I thought I'd pull out the book. Pg. 429 (soft cover) Darkwind "...Now the little ones, Dawnfire, and the sword will be here, in front of the lair..." Elspeth - "We've got to protect the bait somehow, and two of the three of them are female" Need - "Crap. I'll take care of the little male too..." So I'm pretty sure it's Dawnfire, not Nyara -- Paige GO LEAFS!!! proud to be Outlandish My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves me completly. (to e-mail double the p and take out the "reston") ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1890 **********************************