MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1893

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: if i pay thee not in gold
	by Stars1467-+AT+-aol.com
  2) Re: braid
	by "Starshadow *" <starshadow_-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  3) Sword of Ice, the "c" word, and other matters
	by "Nelson Greenslade" <grenslde-+AT+-nbnet.nb.ca>
  4) Brightly Burning
	by "Sharry Adams" <sharry_lynn-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  5) Re: Question
	by "pereldan" <pereldan-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  6) Re: new Misty books
	by "Mark Severson" <markttz-+AT+-eoni.com>
  7) MLML Re: new Misty books / Laven Firestorm
	by Peter Allen <minterra-+AT+-frontiernet.net>
  8) Re: Born To Run, The Last Straw
	by "Abigail Laughlin" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  9) Re: Owlnight and new Misty
	by Amy Trujillo <trujillo-+AT+-southwind.net>
 10) Re: braid -The Last Straw & my attachments
	by Kristine Kilpatrick <kristinek-+AT+-qualisinc.com>
 11) Re: Braid: Pink Wand/Hobbit/oldbies. 
	by david h tiffany <davidt-+AT+-cet.com>
 12) Mage Winds
	by Rachesqka-+AT+-aol.com
 13) Re: Mage Winds
	by "Sharry Adams" <sharry_lynn-+AT+-hotmail.com>
 14) Concerning the last straw - one final comment
	by "Mark Severson" <markttz-+AT+-eoni.com>
 15) Re: Question
	by Orelalaith <ghsu-+AT+-ic.sunysb.edu>
 16) sheep... sheep... SHEEP!!
	by Orelalaith <ghsu-+AT+-ic.sunysb.edu>
 17) Found something nice!
	by Autumnleaf-+AT+-t-online.de (Autumnleaf)

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:51:21 EST
From: Stars1467-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: if i pay thee not in gold
Message-ID: <622cd35f.36dc5d59-+AT+-aol.com>

Heyla :-)

Lovesinger wrote--
 <I've never heard of If I pay Thee Not in Gold.  I was just wondering 
what is it all about.  Would someone care to give a basic plot summary?>

It is about a society that is totally dominated by women, and all the men are
slaves.  The main characters are Xylina, her slave Faro, the Queen, and the
demon Ware.  It's hard to say anything about the plot with out giving the
story away, but I guess you could say it's about Xylina proving herself to the
society, and how she doesn't feel that men should be slaves.
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Sheep to all ---- Jade

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:13:24 PST
From: "Starshadow *" <starshadow_-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: braid
Message-ID: <19990302221324.1809.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

The Owlflight series came out recently.
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I am new to this list and kinda fell out of the loop, the last books 
I had
>time to read were the Storm trilogy.  Have there been any new ones 
out about
>Valdemar and surrounding area since?
>
>Morgan
>

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:31:44 -0400
From: "Nelson Greenslade" <grenslde-+AT+-nbnet.nb.ca>
To: "Misty" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Sword of Ice, the "c" word, and other matters
Message-ID: <038801be64ff$d3a07920$1595b3cf-+AT+-epzfbrwg>

<<Then there is the stuff that is
cross-over like ShadowRun, is it fantasy or sci-fi?  Same with SERRAted
Edge.  There is a lot more of that going on now.>>
   SERRAted Edge would probably be Fatasy...Urban Fantsay. But you're right;
with things like Shadowrun, there is no clear line. Orcs with
cyber-implants, rigger elves, and cyber-shamans are a little too mixed to be
either/or.

<<I did like Chaucer though.>>
   Chaucer is neat.

<<have found that the combined
Zodiac by Susan White is much more accurate because it combines both the
western and eastern. >>
   Hmmm. Where might this be found?

<<My parents didn't censor my reading.  They had some nonfiction books
about human sexuality lying around the house, which I read somewhere
around age 11.  I think they left these books lying about in lieu of
having a serious "birds and bees" discussion.>>
   Hmmm. I guess that's a kind of censoring I hadn't considered. My parents
had 2 "birds&bees" discussions with me: one when I was five and drew a
picture of cat people kissing (look, the daring prince had just liberated
the fiery princess from the clutches of the ruthless wizard, okay?), and the
other about five years later when I was doodling things a bit more...
mature. Frankly, my mother gave me booklets, ~lots~ of 'em, about puberty
and human sexuality. She rented me an educational video about it. I knew
where babies came from very early in life. So, no, I wasn't censored in that
way.
   Curiously enough, I now "censor" my books for my parents. Actually, I
edit content summary. I can tell the entire plot of Magic's Pawn to my
father without once mentioning Van's sexuality or Tylendel's gender. Really.
Other stories, too. I feel a teensy bit guilty about not letting my father
in on books this important to me, but it's better than having them taken
away. No doubt he's confused as to how all these wonky ideas are seeping
into my brain.

   Speaking of censorship, I just finished Born To Run, ad boy was I ever
P.O.'d at Tania's parents, not just for burning her books, but for
restricting all aspects of her life. Though the book-burning was a major
deal. I enjoy finding things I know about in book and stuff, but that's just
creepy.
   I'd already been told about that little "Haven's Reach" tidbit, but I
didn't ~get~ it until five minutes after I finished the book. *rolls eyes at
her own slowness* That's what I get for living under a rock...

<<I'd hate to think how Holderkin (if they even bother) explain sex
to their children.>>
   "It's evil, wrong, and depraved, and punishable by children, but we're
weak" seems about fitting. I didn't like the Holderkin.

<<but there really wasn't much to it.  oh well, i hope
you guys got more out of it than i did, at any rate>>
   Yeah, I got lots. I loved many of the stories. "Ironrose was really
sweet, providing us with insights on both the Hertasi community and the less
visible members of the Tayledras clans. "Sunlancer" was excellent, a morals
vs. duty tale, and I loved it. "The Salamander" gave us a peak and some of
the more mundane denizens of Velgarth. "Blue Heart" was bittersweet. Bitter
because of the unfortunate circumstances, sweet/sad because it mentions
Van... "Chance" cleared up the whole "there was that guardsman" comment, and
introduced me to a character I will forever love (Jonne). It also gave Van
some happiness. :) "In the Forest of Sorrows" was good, another little look
into Van's Legend after he passed... and probaly before Stefen joined him.
"...Another Successful Experiment" was kind of funny... Ah, who am I
kidding? I loved practically every story! If you haven't read _Sword of
Ice_, go and get it!

    I love Star Trek too!!!

Elsa
Knight of Fluff, One In Black, Member of the Order of Drifting Ashes, OoUH
Champion of Jonne, Moonbeam, Iceshadow, and Jaysen, caller of
monsters, and Wielder of the Frying Pan of Doom! (tm)

"If you have built castles in the air...that is where they should be."
        -Thoreau


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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 16:18:45 PST
From: "Sharry Adams" <sharry_lynn-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Brightly Burning
Message-ID: <19990303001846.20486.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Kristy wrote:
    Does anybody know what Brightly Burning is about? I really want to 
read it. Although that'll probably mean another sad story where another 
favourite character of ours dies.
------
  I'm not sure, but I've heard that it is the story of Laven Firestorm, 
the herald who was a firestarter and called fire down upon himself to 
save Valdemar, or somthing like that.  They mention him in the Winds 
books.  I think it was when Elspeth was doing her research on magic.  
So, if that's really what the book's about, be prepared for a sad 
ending!  :)

Watermelon-flavored sheep to all!
--Lovesinger 

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:01:37 -0600
From: "pereldan" <pereldan-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Question
Message-ID: <199903030105.BAA25653-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>

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<Half-elven Harper de-lurking off the starboard bow, captain.>

Taliesin Pereldan fades in with a puff of sheep's wool looking smoke, his
gold fire-lizard Rhiannon asleep on his shoulder. "Greetings and
salutations to all, i've been watching from the background lately...too
much work" he says, then collapses onto a sheep-shaped towel and falls
asleep, secure in the knowledge that if he knows where his towel is, things
can't be too bad.

<end fluff>
Dainestar-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> In WoFate, when Skif and Elspeth are fighting in the salle, Skif
apparently
> slaps the side of Elspeth's head and calls out "disable!" and it says
"she
> obediently went limp." It's on page 24. What IS that??? 

my response to this question: Maybe they were playing SOLAR (live action
fantasy role playing game, similar to AD&D)

and no, this little jest wasn't the only point of my post:

obmisty: I've read Fiddler Fair in another short story collection (not the
one misty did, margaret weis' Treasury of Fantastic Tales for People who
Love Magic, or some such...can't remember the title) and I liked it, but it
struck me as being a little.......convenient...everything fell into place a
little too easily, but that can be explained by the fact that the free
bards *were* watching her... other than that, though, the story was
excellent.
also, any word on the plot of Tempest Fugit yet? i can't wait...Serrated
Edge is my favorite Misty series.

Taliesin Pereldan, impressed of gold Rhiannon
Journeyman Harper



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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:03:42 -0800
From: "Mark Severson" <markttz-+AT+-eoni.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: new Misty books
Message-ID: <002d01be651a$221af660$e86cb4cd-+AT+-janltcea>




>
>Firebird Arts website (http://www.firebirdarts.com) has The Last Straw and
The Camel's Back from Misty. She explains why there won't be anymore Diana
books in those messages. I personally think that she went overboard about
the whole thing. The messages have a very angry tone to them both. But, in
answer to your question, Li'nia, no. And Diana was my favorite character,
too. :(
>~AngelFire
>"Just breathe." -- Ever After
>
>
A couple of comments for you AngelFire.

    Perhaps if your life was threatened by some moron who decided to devote
his life to "taking you out"  (and we're not talking dinner here)
such that the FBI considered it a serious threat then you could say she was
overboard.
 Otherwise I would suggest to you that she was and probably still is a
rather frightened person.   I know I would be and if something I did was
egging the would be assassin on I would probably stop it.  I would also take
other measures to protect myself and my family at conventions and I would be
extremely upset when said convention reneged on providing the security they
had promised.
Stalkers DO kill people!  Why do you think there are stalker laws popping up
all over the country?    Believe it or not it is not because our polititions
like to write new laws.  This weasel was/is threatening to kill her!!!!  If
he were to succeed there would be NO new books period!   Taking into
consideration the other "incident" at her home I consider her reaction well
within bounds.
   So while I regret the fact that there will be no new Diana books I
understand I do not feel the need to berate her for stating her reasons.
She could have just said NO and left it at that.


Mark the tax zombie
markttz-+AT+-eoni.com


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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:56:48 -0500
From: Peter Allen <minterra-+AT+-frontiernet.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: MLML Re: new Misty books / Laven Firestorm
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990302215648.008b66d0-+AT+-pop3.frontiernet.net>

   Mark wrote a few things in response to AngelFire, which I'd like to respond to myself. While I haven't read any of the Diana Trigarde books myself, I have heard that they are good. I also don't like the fact that an author must any reason stop the art that they make on any character, especially ones that fans of such an artist enjoy.
   I'd like to stop a mini-flame war before it starts by saying that there are strong emotions on both sides of this issue, both in regards to people who are asking why she stopped, and those answering.
   I have read the Last Straw letter that Misty wrote, and I can understand why she is angry for the reasons I've already stated. Some people might take offense to such a tone, as I'm sure that Misty took offense to the tone that she received from her writing.
   However, in the same stroke of the keys, I would like to say that yelling and forceful arguing over such a thing is not a discussion. It is merely yelling and forceful arguing. It is the same as if I were to yell at you because I thought that you were wrong for your opinion that yellow balloons were better than green, instead of asking why calmly and perhaps debating the issue. This being a discussion list, let's not argue over balloons, okay?

   That being said, I believe that Laven Firestorm was also talked about some in the Arrows books as well, because of the Herald trainee (not remembering his name at the moment), who had the rare talent for it as well.


Bright be thy day in the sun,

   Wintershard
   Councilor of Mist
   http://www.herald.co.uk/local_info/rules_thumb.html
   http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/misty/newbiefest.html

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 18:59:22 PST
From: "Abigail Laughlin" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Born To Run, The Last Straw
Message-ID: <19990303025922.25543.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

AngelFire wrote:
<<I personally think that she went overboard about the whole thing. The 
messages have a very angry tone to them both.>>

And Mark responded:
<<I would suggest to you that she was and probably still is a rather 
frightened person.   I know I would be and if something I did was egging 
the would be assassin on I would probably stop it.  I would also take 
other measures to protect myself and my family at conventions and I 
would be extremely upset when said convention reneged on providing the 
security they had promised.>>

I fully agree, Mark; I don't think Misty went overboard, and I think she 
had every right to be angry. Death threats, first directed at herself 
and Larry, then at their friends and associates--one of her people being 
attacked at a con--this isn't just some people being a little loopy over 
the Di Tregarde books, this is people threatening to *kill* my favorite 
author because of three books. People believing that those books are 
real life, and that Misty is a villain fit for one of them. Quite 
frankly, if I were in Misty's position, I would be just as angry and I 
would probably do exactly what she has done. Stop writing the books, 
stop going to cons where I'd be potentially in a target position, 
explain to my saner fans why I'd done so, and royally tell off the gits 
causing all the trouble.

In other news:
Elsa wrote:
<<Speaking of censorship, I just finished Born To Run, ad boy was I ever 
P.O.'d at Tania's parents, not just for burning her books, but for 
restricting all aspects of her life. Though the book-burning was a major 
deal. I enjoy finding things I know about in book and stuff, but that's 
just creepy.>>

Yeah, were I confronted with that situation I'd be plenty tweaked 
myself, and I couldn't bring myself to get too worked up at Tania for 
running away. My mother is pretty easygoing and she's never restricted 
me too much--my reading not at all, except for when I was reading while 
I was supposed to be doing other things (like schoolwork, y'know), at 
which times she was likely to box my books up and put them in the attic. 
Now we share books, though mine are mostly fantasy and hers are mostly 
romance.

H'ever, I didn't find Tania's situation with her parents nearly and 
unsettling as I did the whole dealie in When The Bough Breaks. Ergh. The 
bit with the puppy always makes me a little queasy.
 
<<I'd already been told about that little "Haven's Reach" tidbit, but I 
didn't ~get~ it until five minutes after I finished the book. *rolls 
eyes at her own slowness* That's what I get for living under a rock...>>

That's one of the things I love so much about Misty; she's always 
throwing in sly references to and jabs at her other works. Like the 
much-vaunted bits in Knight of Ghosts and Shadows, and a number of 
comments and wry thoughts scampering around the SERRAted Edge books. The 
sort of thing that makes you squeal and point and cry "plot tie! plot 
tie!"

(...or is that just me?)

Zha'hai'allav'a,
Raven Darkblade and her incredible expandin .sig, and Mor the raven,
Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves,
Member of the Mistic Circle,
Webmaster of the Circle of Stone,
Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes;
http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ - The Labyrinth

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:21:39 -0600
From: Amy Trujillo <trujillo-+AT+-southwind.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Owlnight and new Misty
Message-ID: <36DCAAC0.41D0-+AT+-southwind.net>

Heyla,

Stormdance said:

> I don't know about the next Serrated Edge or Knights books.  But, when I 
> just received my Firebird Arts Catalog, there was a note in there with 
> the Diana Tregarde books.  It said that due to some people's actions, 
> there would be no more Tregarde Investigations.  (Is this the same Andre 
> from those books that we're talking about?)  Also, does anyone know if 
> this is a fact?

Yeah I know about there being no more DT books...rats, you can read all
about it in "The Last Straw" that Misty wrote for firebirds web page. 
Blood and Soil is supposed to be a book just about Andre in Nazi Germany
that Misty wrote to fullfill her contract with TOR.  Its supposed to be
in the works...just wondering if anyone had any info on it.

Until next time,
Ice cream sheep to everyone

Amy
Ferret Friend
Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks

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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 06:53:45 -0600
From: Kristine Kilpatrick <kristinek-+AT+-qualisinc.com>
To: "'Mercedes Lackey list'" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: braid -The Last Straw & my attachments
Message-ID: <01BE6542.9B483480-+AT+-qualis123.qualisinc.com>

Since I only wrote 3 sentences on the subject of  the Last Straw essay, I feel that Mark the Tax Zombie unfairly attacked me. I was merely responding to a question posed by a fellow list member and unwisely inserting my own opinion. I doubt that I'll do that again and I'll probably stick to lurking for a while. Thank you for heading off a flame war, Wintershard, with your comments on the issue. And, Mark, I apologize if my thoughts about this bothered you. 

Wintershard notified me that my messages to the list had very long attachments at the end of them. I don't know what is causing this, but I'm trying to fix it. If anyone knows anything about Microsoft Outlook and/or Windows Messaging on a network, please e-mail me privately. And if this message has the same attachment, I apologize in advance.

~AngelFire
"Just breathe" -- Ever After



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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:03:43 -0800
From: david h tiffany <davidt-+AT+-cet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid: Pink Wand/Hobbit/oldbies. 
Message-ID: <199903030603.WAA01371-+AT+-davidt>


> On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Paige wrote:
> 
> > Trashed the Hobbit???  Isn't that considered a childs book.  
> 
To which Cennydd replied;

> As far as I know, until Rankin and Bass did that television animated
> version of "The Hobbit", it was never really considered a kid's book.  At
> the very least, it was never marketed that way, particularly.

Well...
It was, back when it first came out in the thirties. Publishers didn't
see any market for adult fantasy back then (keep those dirty minds in
check please 8-{)# ) so it was marketed as a kids book. When it 
developed
an adult audience, they let JRR write Lord of the Rings for that
audience, hence the change in style/tone from the Hobbit.

hmmm, my spell checker doesn't know the word hobbit, dang illiterate
programmers!

OBMisty: even if you don't like Tolkien, his books opened the way for
the modern fantasy boom and hence Misty.

David Tiffany, God oft Typots

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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:21:59 EST
From: Rachesqka-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Mage Winds
Message-ID: <21a934f6.36dd5397-+AT+-aol.com>

Heyla listsibs!
I just finished the Mage Winds trilogy the other day! :) Man, I really liked
it, I think it's almost up there with LHM, a close second. There was only one
part that sort of bothered me, it was at the very end of WoFury, in the final
showdown between Elspeth and Hulda. After Hulda recognizes Elspeth, and is
afraid of her, "Elspeth laughed histerically." That bothered me, did it bother
anyone else? I mean sure, Hulda was evil and all, but I never figured Elspeth
to be one to laugh histerically in a battle to the death. That kind of borders
on evil itself. I was kinda taken aback by that, you know, Elspeth being a
Herald and all. Oh, well, just my thought for the day.
I kind of wish that I had read this before I read the Mage Storm books. Since
I read Mage Storms first, I already knew about what happened to Dawnfire and
Tre'valen, and that everyone else basically lives, and the bad guys die. So
that was kind of poopy, knowing the ending. But next on my list to read is
Vows and Honor  and then I can start on the Owl books and finally be caught up
with everyone! :) YAY!

Fluffy pink cotton candy sheep to you all!

Zhai'helleva,
Starshadow K'Connecticut
and her bondbird Trin
(I see we have another Starshadow here, welcome to the list, dear. *Bows
cordially to the other Starshadow (Morgan), winks, and tosses a towel covered
in little sheep *  You might need this, look out for buckets.)

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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:14:28 PST
From: "Sharry Adams" <sharry_lynn-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mage Winds
Message-ID: <19990303171428.22334.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com>

Starshadow K'Connecticut wrote:

There was only one part that sort of bothered me, it was at the very end 
of WoFury, in the final showdown between Elspeth and Hulda. After Hulda 
recognizes Elspeth, and is afraid of her, "Elspeth laughed 
histerically." That bothered me, did it bother anyone else? I mean sure, 
Hulda was evil and all, but I never figured Elspeth to be one to laugh 
histerically in a battle to the death. That kind of borders on evil 
itself. I was kinda taken aback by that, you know, Elspeth being a 
Herald and all. 
--------
I don't have my Winds books with me right now, so I can't reread that 
passage to see if I get a different feel from it, but when I read it, I 
got the feeling that Elspeth was laughing as an outlet for stress.  Her 
life had been greatly altered because of Hulda, and the entire trip into 
Hardon had been tense with fear of discovery.  At that moment, she was 
in a life or death battle, which, I would say, is a pretty stressful 
situation.  :)  I think that everything had just built up to a point 
where, prehaps Elspeth was feeling a little crazed.  (I know I've felt 
like that....I'm sure we all have.)  A bit crazy, perhaps, but 
definately not evil.  But that's just my impression from memory.  I 
would really like to look at that passage again, but I loaned those 
books to a friend, and haven't gotten them back yet.  *sigh*  Well, 
there's my 2 cents!

Stress-relieving sheep (there're kinda like pain-relieving medicine, 
except for stress!) to all who need them!
--Lovesinger

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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:31:20 -0800
From: "Mark Severson" <markttz-+AT+-eoni.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Concerning the last straw - one final comment
Message-ID: <000401be659b$a83f2780$696cb4cd-+AT+-janltcea>

First of all I did not consider my comments an attack.
I felt that one should think first prior to labeling something overboard.
Secondly no I was not attempting to start a flame war.  Such things create
zero benefit to anyone - especially the bystanders.

Finally a small bit of personal history as to why I did not consider Mistys
comments "over the top"
Twentysix years ago we had a arsonist loose in my town.  (Hermiston, OR  pop
app 10,000 for the curious).  This deranged individual had decided that the
merchants of the town and others had conspired to destroy his life.
Therefore he decided to destroy ours.
Ours being my parents and by association mine - with fire.
  He proceeded to start several fires, some of which gutted houses.
He ment to burn down our house.  THE ONLY THING THAT STOPPED HIM WAS THE
FACT THAT HE GOT THE HOUSE NUMBER WRONG!   He misread the first digit and
started a fire that gutted 845 instead of 945.   At that time I was 17, I
lived in the basement with one way out.  The windows were to small.  Had the
house been burned I would have perished, burned to death.  Not a pleasent
way to go.  To this day they still have not completly rebuilt the house the
arsonist did burn down.  The police had a 24 hour watch placed on our house
after he missed it.  I slept with a loaded shotgun by my bed just in case he
decided to try again.
   He was finally captured at the site of his final fire, a mobile home.
A baby was in the room under which he started the fire.  I thank God that
this deranged individual was stopped before he succeeded in killing someone.
  So I have a little bit of an idea of what Misty is going thru.  My vervent
wish is that the FBI or police or someone catches this person and lockes
them away for a long long time.

Take it as you will.  That is my reasoning.

Mark L Severson
markttz-+AT+-eoni.com







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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:27:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Orelalaith <ghsu-+AT+-ic.sunysb.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Question
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990303132554.9826A-100000-+AT+-sparky>

On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 Dainestar-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> I'm delurking for one little question. Don't know if it's been asked before,
> but felt like asking again.
> In WoFate, when Skif and Elspeth are fighting in the salle, Skif apparently
> slaps the side of Elspeth's head and calls out "disable!" and it says "she
> obediently went limp." It's on page 24. What IS that??? Is it a mental attack
> not previously mentioned or is it just simulating a possible attack from a
> Mindgifted attacker?
> Just wondering...

In live-action roleplaying (OK, we DON'T go for the heads! :)  you knock
someone out by smacking them on the shoulder then calling "WAYLAY!"..
::grin:: This prevents us from having to REALLY knock them out! )

> 
> Daine
> Xenite Extraordinaire
> 



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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:52:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Orelalaith <ghsu-+AT+-ic.sunysb.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: sheep... sheep... SHEEP!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990303135128.9826G-100000-+AT+-sparky>


What the heck IS it with the sheep?! :)



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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:39:49 +0100
From: Autumnleaf-+AT+-t-online.de (Autumnleaf)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Found something nice!
Message-ID: <m10IHUj-0003CxC-+AT+-fwd03.btx.dtag.de>

Heyla all,

I just found a page I want to share with you for it has a picture of Misty and 
Larry on it plus some data. I liked the picture and guess what: they look like 
some people in Larry's drawings. (Guess who?)

http://www.chicon.org/chi2000/card08.htm

Sorry so short, but I felt the urge to share this. 
*rushes for a cluster of sheep and hides in their middle trusting her listsibs 
not to hurt the animals*

Favourite  chocolate to everybody
Shantaya Autumnleaf


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