MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1905 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Assorted stuffs ;op by "Amy Lea-Anne Tracey" 2) Re: Question on LHM by Menace 3) SHEEP! by "Winterstar K'Canada" 4) Re: Di Tregarde by "Winterstar K'Canada" 5) Catch-up braid by Autumnleaf-+AT+-t-online.de (Autumnleaf) 6) Re: Elspeth and Talia (long-somewhat venting) by Paige ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 01:03:47 -0000 From: "Amy Lea-Anne Tracey" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Assorted stuffs ;op Message-ID: -- ****fluff****** Dawnfire leans up against a huge juniper and smiles at all her list-sibs. Tarsi appears to be chasing his tail, and the tail appears to be winning. Dawnfire shrugs and closes her eyes in the nice warmth of the sun (isn't it nice to pretend!) *****end******** Well now, quite a week I've had! Storm days, sick days (I'm better now - nasty stomache flu!), skiing last night and today, and I went for a nice bareback ride yesterday,too (groans at the pain in her thighs and thinks that 3 hrs is a little too long without a saddle!) I finished reading Wizard of the Grove and I definetily liked the Last Wizard better than Child of the Grove (is that right...?) The 2nd part was much, much better! I don't think I've ever read a better ending! I just loved Lord Death!! and the goddess' input really helped add flava. anyway, highly recommended! Now, someone (I don't remeber who) commented on Angel from Buffy being Falconsbane. Hmmm, hard question...I'm a huge Buffy fan and I totally adore Angel, but I just hate seeing him as a bad guy, suave or not! *shrugs* oh well Heyla to Megwyn and Derrick (sp?) Help yourself to some chocolate sheep-shaped cookies!! Zhai'helleva list sibs!! Dawnfire and tail-chasing Tarsi Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:58:13 -0800 From: Menace To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Question on LHM Message-ID: <36F1D965.B5ED21EC-+AT+-tkcbe.com> Danae wrote: > Kerstin Wrote: > >Do you think, it's also possible for a Herald to look through his or her > >Companion's eyes, even for a longer time than only for a moment? For example > >when the Herald was blind? Which consequences would this have, perhaps a > >reaction-headache? > >Or does the Herald need a special gift to look through another Herald's or > >Companion's eyes? > >Does anyone know any other passages in another book where this is > >decribed???? Also, although not a companion/herald bond. Karal uses his Firecat Altra's eyes now because he is blind. From what I understand the Firecat/Sunpriest Bond is pretty much the same as a Companion/Herald bond. So it is pheasable to deduce that a Herald could see through the Companions eyes indefinatly if needed ;-P I have been relativley quiet on this string but saving all the messages so I could read them when I finished ALL the books. I finally did (except the Gryphon series and the Vows and Honory Trilogy so please dont give anything away :PP) So I will be a bit more active. I just wanted to be the most educated as possible before blundering my thoughts on the string. But I am a HARDCORE Misty fan and you will hear A LOT from me ;PP I do have one comment.. Is it just me, or did the Mage Storms Trilogy's ending leave you feeling... unsatisfied? I think my problem is I hold every other book by ML to the standards of LHM. I need to realize NOTHING will compare to the LHM series ;/ Dont get me wrong, I LOVED all the books.. but none of them *quite* compare to LHM. JMHO ;> Woa Im MEEESTER abbreviations aren't I ;/ ~shrugs~ FireDancer K' Visalia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 07:56:20 MST From: "Winterstar K'Canada" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: SHEEP! Message-ID: <19990315145620.29277.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> *runs in, shrieking at the top of her lungs, waving a befuzzled sheep over her head in excitement* Here there be sheep! I found sheep! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, pg. 51 of Arrow's Flight has sheep! *pauses a moment and then puts the sheep down* Alright, I'll stop now. OBMisty: Alright, like I might have seemed to be, I'm reading Arrow's Flight (again, I love these books), and I just reread where Talia 'forgets' about Gwena's origins. Now, is it just me, or would anyone else NOT appreciate any form of conscious messing around with their memory? I know I'd be totally terrified, and most likely hostile. Then again, maybe it's just me! Cub Carso... er, Winterstar K'Canada :) "A canter is a cure for every evil." -- Benjamin Disraeli Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:23:10 MST From: "Winterstar K'Canada" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Di Tregarde Message-ID: <19990315152313.4547.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Derrick O wrote: >Right now I'm stranded far away at school and away from most of my books >and other refrences so I was wondering if there was anyone out there who >could help me. In the first Di Tregarde book, Children of the Night, >there is a type of Japanese vampire that either eats souls or life >energy,I can't remember which. Does anyone out there know what type of >vampire this guy was and exactly what he ate? Thank you for your help. > -Derrick Alright, Derrick, this Japanese vampire was a gaki, who ate souls. There were three types that were dangerous: eaters of flesh, blood, and souls. Makes me want to never meet one... :) Winterstar K'Canada > "A canter is a cure for every evil." -- Benjamin Disraeli Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:22:15 +0100 From: Autumnleaf-+AT+-t-online.de (Autumnleaf) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Catch-up braid Message-ID: Elsa wrote: > Shantaya (or maybe Torell?) wrote: You never know ;) > < Hm, that's a hard one. "VIllains by Necessity" by Eve FOrward,>> > AAAAGGHHH!!!!!! *tears at hair* I ~soooo~ want to read that, but I can't > ~find~ it!!!!! I was lucky to find the hardcover variante at Forbidden Planet in London in the reduced books pile. It stood on my shelf for months before I finally gave myself a shove and read it. It was soooooooo superb! Did you try amazon.com? If it is still in print they will have it. > Btw, she's right; Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter is a good series... >:) > Although we LKH List nit-pickers could probably ruin it for you. We're very > good and drawing out plot point and making depressing, disturbing, or > demented observations. But we're fun, and we have good brownies. *passes > around caramel fudge brownies* The LKH mailing list? *droooool* Where? How? Please gimme the address!!!!! *Shantaya, loosing her usually composed airs, jumps excitedly up and down. Somehow she manages to drag a big box out of her trouser pocket and hands it to Elsa. "Here, take this as a bri... er, gift. It contains the specially bred German Snow Melting Sheep (TM). During summer, store them in the fridge."* > Someone (Argh! Bad delete finger!) wrote: > < in the upper left corner of Magic's Pawn is>> > I usually rationalise that as being Medren's mom. I forget her name. It's been some years (oh Goddess! That's ages!) since I read LHM but I faintly remember that Van (IIRC) saw Yfandes in her woman spirit form. Or something like that. (Sorry, I was down with a fever couple of weeks ago and my brain must have suffered some damage. I seem to forget almost EVERYTING!) I always thought that naked woman was the human woman form of Yfandes. It would explain those nifty mists wallowing (or was it willowing?) around her. (No, sorry - billowing) (Or was it? *ponder*) Firedance wrote: >How long where you dating before you realized you were in love? First of all: congratulations! Aaah, I remember, when I was 20 and had my first boy-friend (nice coincidence, isn't it?). For him it was love at first sight (at least, that's what he said). Me, it took about two months before I finally admitted that to myself (I'm stubborn, so what?) And another month before we had sex. He didn't push me and I was too just happy with the way it was. In the end, it came about naturally. *shrugs* Don't know how to explain that. BTW, we are still together (that's 10 years next August!) *****FLUFF******* Torell does a tip-toe dance around Firedance and showers her with little red heart-shaped sheep. ******************** Kerstin wrote: >I don't know how this sheep-thing is working, but nonetheless >chocolate-flavoured sheep for all! That was very well for the beginning! Practise this on-list and you will be perfect in a couple of hours! :) ("Torell! Stop bothering other people!") Alexia wrote: >Does anyone else just long to get books, books and more books even if you've >got piled of them of books you haven't >read? Yes! Me! Every three months I have to re-design my shelves (and by now, the book room) to make space for my treasured books. I hate to store them second row (or rather, the cats hate it because they love playing and hiding behind the first row) or put them into the cupboards under teh roof or in the cellar where they might suffer from dampness and insects. My final resolve is my sister! If I don't manage to press one more book into the row (and believe me I'm good at that! Usually you need some skill to take a book out of my shelves, a lot of strength in your fingers and you shouldn't mind broken nails), I give praise to those books that won't fit in and lend them to my sis. She calls her apartment storage room II. :) ObMisty: The Talia discussion that's going on. I couldn`t relate to Talia the way I could to Di Tregarde but I still liked AOQ very much. (I bought them for my boy-friend`s niece who will have some kind of coming-of-age celebration next weekend) IMO, Talia made a lot of mistakes but she learnt from them. The shy 13 year old grew up, developped in mind and matured. I'm sure she would deal with those notes and the bullying in a different way now that she's grown up. OOps, is it really thus late? And I wanted to write this article about hens and eggs and life symbols and the egg producing industry, oh-deary-mee! Wind to thy wings and roasted hazelnut sheep to you Shantaya Autumnleaf and Torell, her JEster Keeper of Cats ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:11:04 -0500 From: Paige To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Elspeth and Talia (long-somewhat venting) Message-ID: <36ED5B48.280D-+AT+-sympatico.ca> Nelson Greenslade wrote: > Julia inquired: > < because a) you just didn't like them as a character (bad deeds or > whatever) or b) you just didn't think they were interesting or c) > you didn't think they were well developed/well written or d)some > combination of the above.>> > I did not like Elspeth because she was a brat. She was a spoiled little > brat in AotQ, and she was still a brat in the Winds series. Everything has > to be her way, she's superiour, you couldn't possibly understand her, blah > blah blah. I just never liked her. > Wait, that's not true. I sort of liked her the first time I read the > series, but then I reread it and couldn't ~stand~ her. Ugh. I think you're taking an overly simplistic view of Elspeth. You say she's a brat, how so? Because she believes deep down inside that she is the only one who can find mages? Because she wasn't lifebonded to Skif and didn't want to be? Because she didn't like having her life ruled by the other Heralds, Companions, the Council or her Mother? etc., etc., etc... Let's look at this from her side 1- mages - She was the only one who could go. The Companions stopped everyone but her and Kero from even THINKING about magic, and if you read her arguments for being the one to go it was well thought out and made good sense. 2 - Skif. How would you feel if you were the only HJerald who had to sit back and look pretty, even though you knew how to do everything that everyone else did. She was trined in war, tactics, arms, she didn't need Skif to come with her, and when he does, he not only tries to tkae over, but he tries to wrap her in silk too. I personally thought that Skif was an ass and if I was Elspeth I would have run him through. 3 - The poor girl wasn't allowed to think for herself. She had the Companions muckling about with her head, her Mother wanting to "dump her in embroidery classes" or at least surround her with guards, the Council thoust she was too young (at 26!!!) to do anything, and the only person she could really talk to would possibly report anything she said to her mother! Also, she spends most of her life (after the tryst fiasco) believing that shecan never marry for love. Because of the war woth Ancar she thinks she'll have to make an alliance marriage. Oh yeah, sme life... I sure do envy her! > I also don't like Talia, but I'm not really sure why. *smacks forehead* > Oh wait, that's right! She slept with her life-bonded's best friend. Oops, she made a mistake. Dirk forgave her and Kris, why can't you? Heralds are human too, you know! > *glower* She was too... too... too ~passive~. She was raised to be passive...were you? >She never told anyone about > those threatening notes, for example. If she'd just ~told~ someone instead > of being a silly twit, she never would have been attacked. She gave her reasons, she couldn't trust anyone, it was how she was raised. And for those who say she's too perfect, it says that her one MAJOR fault, is that she can't trust anyone, even another Herald, remember her rogue gift and Kris...that was 5 years after she came to the collegium! >That whole "Oh > poor Talia" chorus just rang a little false with me. It was like I was being > pushed to sympathise with her, it wasn't subtle enough. I've been the target > of the kind of bullies that were hounding her, and guess what? She let them > control her, which is what they wanted. They played her like a cheap guitar. > ~This~ is the Queen's Own, the person who is supposed to be a pillar of > strength for the country? No. This is a Herald-trainee who grows up to be a pillar of strength. Read the book again, you'll see that she is! > There isn't a single instance when I liked Talia. Not even when they chuck her in the river (sarcasm here!) > So I guess that's d), a combination of all of the above. I'm going to assume then that you must be a perfect human specimen with no faults whatsoever. Gee, must be nice. How's the weather up there? -- Paige GO LEAFS!!! proud to be Outlandish My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves me completly. (to e-mail double the p and take out the "reston") ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1905 **********************************