MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1951 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) NamesAndSorrySoFluffy by "Brynn/Jennifer Ireland" 2) Challenge to OoUH by "Li'nia Stormdancer" 3) A braid of braids (I think) by "Sorana Stargem" 4) Name Similarities by "Li'nia Stormdancer" 5) Taleydras by Angela Doyon 6) Re: [A braid of braids (I think) ] by Liss 7) minor characters (isn't that a play?) by Julia Gray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:44:38 PDT From: "Brynn/Jennifer Ireland" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: NamesAndSorrySoFluffy Message-ID: <19990430014439.68589.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_461160bd_89f60bf$321e1637 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_49b37c28_89f60bf$321e1637" ------=_NextPart_001_49b37c28_89f60bf$321e1637 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; heyla listsibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <==okay, okay, excesive "!'s". so i'm nuts. anyhow...... Li'nia stormdancer wrote: >Anyway, I just >wanted to warn you all that I think it's acting up again....... thanks for the warning. i sent a 'mail to the list on probly the 22nd (?) and i'm not sure if it got to ppl or not. please 'mail me privatly if anyone saw it (jenniferireland-+AT+-hotmail.com). Misty: now then... about a month ago i read the Lark and the Wren, and i noticed that Kestral's father's name was Charlis! isn't the emporer of the EasternE in the Storm books named Charlis? and come to think of it, in Elvenbane there is a guy named Valyn (-sp?) that kinda reminds me of Van... coincidences? i think not. has anyone else noticed Misty messing with our minds through inter-series name similarities? hmmmmm..... Non-misty: Cennydd (i think, profuse apologies to all if not) said that there are probly few ppl who wear black for the practicality of the colour. i started out doing just that! funny, huh? now it's a bit of a fashon statement, but i *certainly* don't wear the colour exclusivly (-sp?) Non-misty: (again, so sorry) i'm sooo happy! i got nominated for the 8th grade English award... only 10 ppl were nominated altogether. can u believe i got it when i write to u ppl like this? sorry again for the fluff, i'm just so glad to have a bright spot in my life for once besides reading... back into my piles of homewrk i go... zhai'helleva, Lady Brynn (say BREN) (yes, i *realize* bryn means "hill" in Welsh, and no, i am *not* having spelling issues.) High Priestess of Kelpies, Selkies, and the Water-Borne Carrier of the Enchanted Bucket #2 (tm) A wanna-be Gwragedd Annwn Infatuated with Wales, Misty, and Alanis Morissette .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. "A room without books is like a body without a soul." -Cicero "Ignore reality, there's nothing u can do about it!" -Natalie Imbrublia "if we were our nametags if we were our rejections if we were our outcomes i'd be joining you if we were our indignities if we were our successes if we were our emotions i'd be joining you" -Alanis Morissette _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_49b37c28_89f60bf$321e1637 Content-type: text/html

heyla listsibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <==okay, okay, excesive "!'s". so i'm nuts. anyhow......
Li'nia stormdancer wrote:

Anyway, I just
wanted to warn you all that I think it's acting up again.......

thanks for the warning. i sent a 'mail to the list on probly the 22nd (?) and i'm not sure if it got to ppl or not. please 'mail me privatly if anyone saw it (jenniferireland-+AT+-hotmail.com).

Misty: now then... about a month ago i read the Lark and the Wren, and i noticed that Kestral's father's name was Charlis! isn't the emporer of the EasternE in the Storm books named Charlis? and come to think of it, in Elvenbane there is a guy named Valyn (-sp?) that kinda reminds me of Van... coincidences? i think not. has anyone else noticed Misty messing with our minds through inter-series name similarities? hmmmmm..... <g>

Non-misty: Cennydd (i think, profuse apologies to all if not) said that there are probly few ppl who wear black for the practicality of the colour. i started out doing just that! funny, huh? now it's a bit of a fashon statement, but i *certainly* don't wear the colour exclusivly (-sp?)

Non-misty: (again, so sorry) i'm sooo happy! i got nominated for the 8th grade English award... only 10 ppl were nominated altogether. can u believe i got it when i write to u ppl like this? <g> sorry again for the fluff, i'm just so glad to have a bright spot in my life for once besides reading...

back into my piles of homewrk i go... zhai'helleva,

Lady Brynn (say BREN) (yes, i *realize* bryn means "hill" in Welsh, and no, i am *not* having spelling issues.)
High Priestess of Kelpies, Selkies, and the Water-Borne
Carrier of the Enchanted Bucket #2 (tm)
A wanna-be Gwragedd Annwn
Infatuated with Wales, Misty, and Alanis Morissette
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
"A room without books is like a body without a soul." -Cicero

"Ignore reality, there's nothing u can do about it!" -Natalie Imbrublia

"if we were our nametags
if we were our rejections
if we were our outcomes i'd be joining you
if we were our indignities
if we were our successes
if we were our emotions i'd be joining you" -Alanis Morissette

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She waves her hand enthusiastically in the air. "Oooo...a challenge!! I love a challenge!* Okay, since all members of the Order of Unsung Heroes have been challenged to defend their favorite characters. I have to at least let you know who mine are. FX (or Foxtrot Xray) is one, Altra is one, and Lissa is the last. Some people might say that Altra had a bit of exposure, but we never really found out anything about him, other than the fact that he was a Son of the Sun a very long time ago. I wish I could read about what Karse was like when he was human. Someone else mentioned Lissa; I agree. I'd like to hear some of her stories. She has such a strong personality, she must have had some great times. I also love FX. He's so strange and spontaneous and funny! Anyway, those are the Unsung Heroes that I defend. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Variety is the spice of life." - my father =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ~~Li'nia Stormdancer~~Stormdance k'T'more y Kuus~~Peon to the Powers That Be~~Devotee to the OoUH (Champion of FX and Altra)~~(Hopeful) Goddess of All Things Possessed~~Mindmate to Styx A'ska~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:14:18 PDT From: "Sorana Stargem" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: A braid of braids (I think) Message-ID: <19990430061420.92354.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Heyla all! Starshadow wrote: > Margaret wrote: > > >>I just started the LHM series, and I noticed that Van reminds me >of the >son that Lancelot tries to rescue in "Monty Python's Quest >for the Holy >Grail." Well, ok, Van is far more striking, >intelligent, and not >pathetic, but other than that they are sort of >similar. Am I crazy or do >ya'll see it also?<< > >LOL! You're not crazy, the same thing has occurred to me, but only >because >if the whole "I want to SING!" part. He doesn't much remind >me of Van, >maybe a sad, pathetic, stupid, and homely parody of >Van,_maybe_. But the >father does remind me of Withen, "You not going >to do a song while I'm >here!" But, yes the thought had occurred to >me several times while >watching it, and as a result I end up >laughing at that part harder than >anyone else in the room, because >all the while I'm imagining them being >Vanyel and Withen. Oh my, I never thought of _that_. ~falls over in a laughing fit~ That's funny! Now it's been brought up I can see the resemblence. I suppose it never occured to me because of the son not being at all like Vanyel (except for the singing part). Either that, or I was laughing too hard to think from all the _other_ funny stuff! >But... *glances around the Hall of Mist nervously* Watch what you >say, the >Order of Amber and Marigold could be lurking around any >corner, waiting to >flame anyone whom they think is insulting Van. So >please bear in mind that >I have no wish to insult Van and love him >death, and would defend him from >insults as well. :D Hey! We're not _that_ bad! I'm not anyway. And I actually have a sense of humor too. :) And even if you _had_ insulted Van (which you didn't IMO) I'd do my best not to get carried away and flame you. ;) No, I wouldn't flame you, I'd correct you. There's not much point in flaming someone, and it's impolite besides. Liss wrote: >Sorana wrote: >satisfying to >do that to Slade Gorton.> >You must be from Washington, too. Ye Gods, I hate that man... How _did_ you guess? Yep, I'm from Washington. Port Angeles to be specific. I've lived in Washington (in general, 'cause we tend to move a lot) for at least 7 years now. Where in Wa. are you? >I'm going to add my own question to the list. What minor character(s) > >that Misty mentions would you like to learn more about? >Personally, I'd >love to learn about Sunsinger and Shadowdancer. Add >Windrider to that >list also. The songs are great, but I'd love to >read the stories behind >them. Ooo! Yeah! I'd LOVE to know their stories! Especially Windrider's! Ummm, I agree with the people how said they'd like to hear more about Lissa...I think I'd like to hear more from Savil's life too. I can't think of anyone else off hand.... Stormlight wrote: >Someone wondered (the stapler deleted the message again...bad, bad > >stapler) about Firesong's mother and which side Firesong's relation >to >Vanyel came down....I'd like to meet Firesong's mother, too. She >must be >an impeccable dresser and a truly stalwart character because >she is the >only person, to my knowledge, that Firesong is afraid of. Another one! I wanna meet her too. Let's see more of Firesong's mother! And umm...Oh darn. I had someone in my head just a minute ago. ~sigh~ To Ardath--I'm glad I could help with that survey of yours. :) Here, have a chocolate fudge sheep. Okay, I think that's all. Stars light your path, Sorana S. Stargem Herald-trainee, %-+AT+-"So free for a moment High Priestess to the Goddess%-+AT+-Lost somewhere between the earth and of Unicorns, %-+AT+-the sky Goddess of Flions, %-+AT+-So free for a moment Knight of Amber and Marigold,%-+AT+-Lost because I want to be lost Knight of the OOUH %-+AT+-Don't try to find me" --The Martinis http://www.angelfire.com/wa/mylagoon/index.html _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:07:01 GMT From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Name Similarities Message-ID: <19990430080702.5757.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Heyla List-Sibs!!! (I know, 3 "!"'s, but it's been one of those weeks!) Lady Brynn wrote: >>Misty: now then... about a month ago i read the Lark and the Wren, and i >>noticed that Kestral's father's name was Charlis! isn't the emporer of the >>EasternE in the Storm books named Charlis? and come to think of it, in >>Elvenbane there is a guy named Valyn (-sp?) that kinda reminds me of >>Van... coincidences? i think not. has anyone else noticed Misty messing >>with our minds through inter-series name similarities?<< Yeah, I've noticed it before. Although at that time I hadn't read Lark and the Wren with the name Charlis in it. I had noticed that there's a Charcoal in Chrome Circle and Emperor Charliss in the MageStorm books. And there's Raschar from Oathbreakers. I think something about the word "char" inspires Misty's bad characters or something. Maybe about a charred soul? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Variety is the spice of life." - my father =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ~~Li'nia Stormdancer~~Stormdance k'T'more y Kuus~~Peon to the Powers That Be~~Devotee to the OoUH (Champion of FX and Altra)~~(Hopeful) Goddess of All Things Possessed~~Mindmate to Styx A'ska~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:03:40 -0400 From: Angela Doyon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Taleydras Message-ID: <19990430.141335.11886.6.Songrunner-+AT+-juno.com> Raven Darkblade wrote: >I do find myself wondering about Eldan's position in the Heraldic Circle. >He had, as I recall, a hell of a ransom, which was paid without fuss when >Kero sent the Guild emissary to get it. And he was sent out as a spy into >Karse. But he's not mentioned in Winds at all and only comes up briefly in >Storms--and then it's not even in any of the meetings; it's when Elspeth, >Darkwind, An'desha, Firesong, Kero and he all take a soak in the spring in >Firesong's makeshift ekele. >So how important is he? Is he just another Herald--which means that, after >his attempts to drag Kero into Valdemar (anyone else notice Ratha's musings >about what would happen if Kero *did* go to Valdemar? Hee) she outranks him >like anything. Or is he somethign really nifty that just never gets >mentioned 'onstage'? Actually, I think that the only reason he got the high ransom thing was because the information he had to bring back to Valdemar was extremely important. Other than that, I don't think he was anything special - just one of the many children of a minor noble (if I'm remembering that right) and "just another Herald" (if that phrase would actually apply to *any* Herald!). Besides, I'm almost certain that Selenay would pay any ransom (within some sort of limit, I'm sure) to get a Herald back safely, rather than another Herald getting killed. Think of how upset she is every time the Death Bell tolls. As for minor characters, I'd love to hear more about King Valdemar and company, Sunsinger and Shadowdancer, Windrider, and Lavan Firestorm. (sorry - I love the legendary-type persons) And whoever mentioned that Owlflight/sight was great, despite negative comments about it, I personally loved it, and the Storm books. Of course, I love just about anything that manages to keep my interest, and I'm generally highly easy to entertain. But I still think they were all wonderful! I actually like Darian a lot - I guess partially because I identify with his wish to just fade into the forest and not have to deal with all those idiots (sorry - my dream is to be a hermit(ess) and not have to deal with all the modern-day idiots that I seem to be facing all the time). Of course, I also identified with Keisha...and just about every other character I've ever read. Has anyone else notices that almost all characters seem to share at least one or two minor (or major) similarities to you? I think that's what probably keeps me interesting the most in Misty's books. Something on the list lately has been troubling me a bit. Everytime Taleydras are mentioned, they seem to have acheived near-perfectness, or something like that. Now, I personally love them to death, but I think everyone needs to remember that they are human too - Darkwind (I think) mentioned that the Taleydras also have their share of troublemakers, etc., only that it is a bit more rare. And did anyone else get annoyed at certain members of (possible short Owlflight SPOILER) Darian's adopted clan when it was mentioned that a small group still didn't think that the Kaled'ain should be allowed into the clans and that they should all remain as closed-off as they were before the Mage Storms? And all that grumbling despite the fact that it was their Goddess that caused the "reunion" to happen in the first place. I was a bit incensed, especially considering that they are so close to their Goddess, but I was glad that many more were perfectly happy to have their long-lost clansmen return. END SPOILER Anyway. I just wanted to remind everyone that the Taleydras are human too, despite their exotic-ness, and they are just as easily lovable or unlikable as anyone else. Okay, enough rambling for today. Hanging plants with green sheep-shaped leaves to all. Wind to thy Wings, Songrunner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 99 12:26:18 PDT From: Liss To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: [A braid of braids (I think) ] Message-ID: <19990430192618.14985.qmail-+AT+-www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Heyla All! This one's actually going to be really short. Short's relative for me of course! "Sorana Stargem" wrote: >Where in Wa. are you? Arlington, which is about an hour north of Seattle. POSSIBLE Spoiler Alert ("Stolen Silver" from Werehunter): S P O I L E R * M A Y B E ! * Did anyone else who read "Stolen Silver" happen to catch Alberich's Companion's name? I know I've seen it in the other books, but the fact hadn't caught my eye this time. Taver?!? Any connection here? Wierd, especially with all the talk about Taver in connection w/ Van. Zhai'helleva! Liss .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. - Do I look like a freakin' people person? - - Sarcasm is just one more service we offer. - - Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after. - My Home Page: http://members.tripod.com/half_asleep Joke List: http://www.ONElist.com/subscribe/twistedjokes .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:04:19 -0500 From: Julia Gray To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: minor characters (isn't that a play?) Message-ID: <372A0CC2.511C563F-+AT+-oakton.edu> Minor characters I'd like to see more of (I'm hoping they start to gently bemuse misty into writing 'bout 'em): van's sister (lissa, I think....) quentin and not really minor characters, but some more thoughts on stories i'd like to see (a never ending list :-) something (a short story) about the blue-eyed clan (tarma's) I'd love a story about when the gryphons meet the gryphons (hope that's not a spoiler...) If it's not blasphemy, I'd like to see, perhaps, maybe (if I don't get shot for this) someone else write about one of the further realms - it might be intriguing to have a slightly familiar setting with a different type of story....just a random idea, please no flames .... **wonders if she can find an asbestos suite in a hurry** about misty: okay, i think since i've been on this list we've talked about movies, magic, homosexuality, fiction vs nonfiction (the great literature debate), what gifts you would have, what would you do if you didn't have any gifts, a smattering of posts on religion, a few on how nicely ML handles sex scenes (in that she nicely leaves much to our imagination) ... but I don't recall politics....is this too hot to bring up? Do you think ML in her books (particularly her velgarth, but I don't want to be exclusive here...) advocates a regency? what about rethwellan (sp?) and Karse? it seems as though moral or religious beliefs (when "true" religious beliefs) are used as a system of checks and balances - and the councils etc don't have much power. The clans seem to be different, but still rely on one figurehead (as I recall) ...so the evidence I can remember (alas and alck for those meandering gray cells) seems to point to a preference for a single leader rather than a cabal of some sorts... Betha'lis ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 1951 **********************************