MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2018 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New question (Warrl/Tarma) by Alison Heath 2) Re: New question (Warrl/Tarma) by "Morgaine of the Silverwoods Vetter" 3) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_New_question_=28Warrl=2FTarma=29?= by Adrianne.Cook-+AT+-wiley.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Alison Heath To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: New question (Warrl/Tarma) Message-ID: > I was rereading Oathbreakers. Warrl said in there that he'd like to stay > with Tarma after death. Does anyone know if he was allowed to stay with > her? If I recall correctly, there's a scene in another book (BtS maybe? or one with Andesha?) in which someone sees them both in spirit form. Can anyone remember which book that was? Or am I just making things up? Alison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 14:56:25 -0800 From: "Morgaine of the Silverwoods Vetter" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: New question (Warrl/Tarma) Message-ID: <377BA3FE0006DED8-+AT+-isocor.briefcase.com> (added by postmaster-+AT+-isocor.briefcase.com) Hi. I'm Morgaine, and I'm kind of new to the mailing list, but I've been reading Misty novels for almost ten years now. In response to the question about Warrl and Tarma, I do not recall reading about anyone seeing Warrl in spirit form, but I am often wrong when I can't find the book I want to back me up... I do recall An'desha seeing Tarma as one of the leshy'a Kal'enedral in the third Winds book. (I'm having a really bad day at remembering basic concepts...) It is possible that Warrl was in BtS, but I lent my copy to a friend who moved and never managed to get it back me, so I can't look that one up... Well, I hope I didn't make *too* big a fool of myself. I'll go back to quietly reading again... _______________________________________________________ Get Visto! Groups, event calendars, email, and more... Check it out -+AT+- http://www.visto.com/info ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jul 99 09:07 EDT From: Adrianne.Cook-+AT+-wiley.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_New_question_=28Warrl=2FTarma=29?= Message-ID: <3785f617Re: New question (Warrl/Tarma)*-+AT+-m400gw.wiley.com> good morning -- i'm also uncertain whether warrl has appeared in spirit form w/ tarma, however *both* tarma & warrl were in by the sword. warrl trained kero in mindspeech, tarma trained her in weapons, and her grandmother (kethry) was also around. the best that i can figure is that tarma, kethry & warrl died between the end of by the sword & the beginning of the winds books -- that's the only reason i can think of that their funerals weren't shown. an interesting side note about leshey'a kalendral is that tarma is referred to in storm breaking by a swordsworn who's talking w/ karal, & he mentions that "she is the first teacher that appeared to me after i was sworn" (something to that effect), but --- in the oath books, tarma mentions to kethry (when kethry finds out about tarma's teachers -- they're in the pelagirs at the time) that all of her teachers have been dead at least 100 yrs. now since we know that 100 yrs haven't passed between tarma's death & her first appearance as leshey'a kalendral, i'm assuming that she's a special case. after all, if kalanel (sp?) can't break her own rules, then what's the point of being a goddess anyway? in the storm books (esp. storm rising & storm breaking) the avatars are very interested in karal (an'desha consideres this after walking the moonpaths), as are the swordsworn. after karal meets tarma in storm breaking, the other swordsworn (or is he a shaman?) mentions that no one will challenge his right to be there. now (& i do have a point!), waay back in storm warning, karal mentions that v'kandis had a consort who was goddess of the night (i forget exactly how her name was spelled, but it was very close to kalanel), and wonders after reading the diaries of the young priest hansa when exactly worship of her died out. now really, i'd give very large odds that kalanel & the consort of v'kandis are one in the same, & i'd be very interested in reading about how those deities & their worshipers split apart. this would have to have been waay back in the prehistory (pre-gryphons), because in storm breaking, the gryphons from iftel mention that the people of the third (who became the founders of iftel) belonged to a religion where the mages became priests, and there's no mention of a male consort of kalanel in the gryphon books. i'm hoping that since elements of the empire have been introduced in the storm books & will be picked up (to some extent) in owlknight, maybe misty will give us another few trilogy about the empire -- like the empire now (after the mage storms) & either ma'ar's formation of the empire (dovetailing w/ the gryphon books), or detailing the construction after the original storms. that's about all for now --- back to work! :) ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2018 **********************************