MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2027 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Book releases.... by Kerowyn73-+AT+-aol.com 2) Re: Book releases.... by "Shatterstar" 3) RE: Young Adult Fiction by "Dubose, SPC Stephanie" 4) braid: owl schedule, outliving companions & magic static by Adrianne.Cook-+AT+-wiley.com 5) Children's books by Danielle May Marrone 6) Re: Children's books by Julia Gray 7) Re: outliving companions by Jadzia 8) Re: outliving companions by EarthSongW-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: outliving companions by Danielle May Marrone 10) Re: outliving companions by Anna Borisovna ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:58:42 EDT From: Kerowyn73-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Book releases.... Message-ID: Been lurking for a bit.. and I think someone wanted to know this.... Owlknight has been turned in to the publisher, and is scheduled for a hardback release in October. There will be a paperback release of Owlsight at the same time. Bright the day! Sionen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:13:14 -0700 From: "Shatterstar" To: Subject: Re: Book releases.... Message-ID: <01a301bed337$bc8d6e40$e00611ac-+AT+-internal.mindspring.com> YES! That's all I have to say... have been waiting for it, and driving my local bookstore nuts wondering when both the next book and the paperback would be out. Shatterstar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:04 PM Subject: Book releases.... > Been lurking for a bit.. and I think someone wanted to know this.... > > Owlknight has been turned in to the publisher, and is scheduled for a > hardback release in October. There will be a paperback release of Owlsight > at the same time. > > Bright the day! > Sionen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:38:03 -0400 From: "Dubose, SPC Stephanie" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: RE: Young Adult Fiction Message-ID: Most of Misty's books are good for all ages. And I am with you that I will read my favorite children's books til the day I die, too. YA books have all the same format, in my opinion. Most of the ones I have read have been the same format, and I could tell you what happens before you read it. Stephanie > -----Original Message----- > From: dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph [SMTP:dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph] > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 5:39 PM > To: duboses-+AT+-arcent.army.mil > Subject: Re: Young Adult Fiction > > Hi there. > > > But here is a legitimate question--what age group > > would most of you reccomend Misty for? I > > mean, typically...? > Personally, I don't think that there is any hard and fast age when > you should start introducing Misty's work. I started reading books > from the adult section of the library when I was ten, and I will > probably read my favorite children's books till the day I die. > Within certain limits, what you give people to read is determined > mostly by interests. After that, things become very subjective. > Generally, if you think the book might give the person nightmares, it > probably isn't a good idea to recommend it to them. And what causes > nightmares varies widely from person to person. > > > Does anyone else think that the > > majority of YA fiction is really, really > > bad? Aaagh! I'm glad that I > > was advanced in my reading and reading the > > so-called highschool level books when I was > > twelve, rather than at the age they are > > recomended. > I totally agree with you. Fortunately, no one in my family got > into that stuff. Unfortunately, friends of the family did; and, > being the opinionated type that I am, I was hard put to keep civil > and not start all sorts of arguments. I did make sure that my best > friends were thoroughly exposed to decent books. I must admit, at > times I feel like a book pusher, getting as many people hooked on my > favorite authors as I can. > > Wind to thy wings, > Sara > > "No book is really worth reading at the age of ten which is not > equally (and often far more) worth reading at the age of > fifty... The only imaginative works we ought to grow out of are > those which it would have been better not to have read at all." > C.S. Lewis ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jul 99 09:39 EDT From: Adrianne.Cook-+AT+-wiley.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: braid: owl schedule, outliving companions & magic static Message-ID: <3795cee3braid: owl schedule, outliving companions & magic static*-+AT+-m400gw.wiley.com> just getting around to answering e-mail (haven't had much so far this week, or much that needed answers). daystar sez AND WHEN IS OWLSIGHT COMING OUT IN PAPERBACK!? I've been anticipating the occasion for a VERY LONG TIME and it hasn't come!! I don't know about you guys, but I don't buy hardcover books unless they are really cheap! fyi to daystar & anyone else ---> pbks are generally released 12mos after the hc, so look for owlsight pbk in (approx) oct 99 (us & canucks *grin*-- int'l, i have no idea) when (drumroll) owlknight hc is slated for release (same mkts). now, daine sez (talking about 'lendel being buried as a herald in mpawn) It's already been established that a Companion can live without their Herald (Rolan and 'Fandes, I think, are examples of this) rolan i can understand -- he's grove-born, and whatever rules exist for *normal* companions go out the window for them, but how is 'fandes an example of this? she hadn't chosen before van. What happens if a Herald, in some circumstance, loses their Companion? the only example i can think of ('lendel) doesn't quite work 'cause he was such a mess at the time. i mean, a case can be made that he was repudiated because he was so unbalanced (altho, it's a vicious circle: he was repudiated because he was unbalanced, & he became unbalanced because his brother died. so, if staven hadn't died, would he have been a happy & healthy herald, or would something else have set him off?). if at the end of Arrow's Fall, Tantris had died because of that arrow wound but Kris hadn't gotten killed. What would happen? ... Would another Companion choose them immediately after? Would something totally different happen? now (& yes, i'm drawing lotsa stuff from the lhm trilogy), the herald-companion bond has been compared to a lifebond, and van did survive 'lendel's death, altho i got the impression that if 'fandes hadn't chosen him almost immediately after that he would have died. sooo, i'm going out on the limb here (hmm, it isn't supposed to creak like that, is it?) to say that: a herald who is lifebonded or otherwise has a deep attachment to another person could theoretically survive his/her companion's death. i think that said herald would feel like (& possibly would be considered) damaged goods. now, as to whether the herald would be re-chosen (hmm, this thing keeps creaking & wobbling -- looked steadier before i stepped out here), i think that it would have to do with how *important* that herald is to the over-all scheme of things. it seems that the companions have a certain amount of foresight (in the end of mprice, yfandes tells van that she knew that things would end like this), so if said herald is pivotal to certain events coming down the pike (oh, negotiating peace w/ the empire, perhaps?), then i think that that herald would be re-chosen. if, however, said herald's main duties had already been accomplished, then no. i think the best way to think of a companionless herald would be like a dragonless rider (pern books). the vast majority of dragonriders who were *orphaned* ended up suiciding -- that's why lytol was such a novelty. now (this just came to mind), since companions are avatars of a sort, if a herald survived the companion's death & still had *work* to do, what's to stop another avatar from stepping in? for example, if the representative in karse loses his/her companion, why couldn't a firecat step in? and on the plains/in the vales, do you think that kal'a'nel would pass up a chance like that? (gee, this tree branch keeps shaking away, especially after that last thing ...) now, liz & e.g.hoffman wrote how do long term spells work? firesong talks about this in winds #3 (whatever tha heck that one is). he says that long-term spells that are linked to heartstones outlive their creators. when elspeth added to the magical protections around haven, she *saw* the remnants of old spells, from the old herald mages. it sounds to me that spells linked to a heartstone (network computer?) can continue to draw power from the stone to renew themselves, whereas unlinked spells (non-networked computer) have only the energy that went into their creation. stef mentioned in winds #3 that van was surprised at how long some of his spells had lasted (ie: one on his descendants, the vrondi) -- that's +/- 500yrs after they were created. now i think you also have to factor in the workmanship of the spell. something that was just slapped together isn't going to survive for very long (& may be intended as a temporary measure anyway). also another long-term spell that came up (mpromise) was the one *healing* the fault in linneas-baires, which was linked to a heartstone as well. liz & e.g.hoffman also wrote It just popped into my head that if you've got a lot of mages working around the same time in one area wouldn't you get a lot of magic static. hmmm, hadn't thought of that before. makes me wonder if an area w/ lots of mages would be less stable (ie: more prone to extreme weather, perhaps)? something was mentioned (i foget where exactly) that lesser-powered mages are needed to smooth the energy flows in the area so that the adepts can do the greater spells. so, possibly these lesser mages would be responsible for smoothing out areas of *static*? (it's really creaking now ... maybe i'd better ...)THUNK. i guess this is a sign from above -- next time i'd better pick a branch closer to the ground (groan) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:06:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Danielle May Marrone To: Mercedes Lackey Fan List Subject: Children's books Message-ID: Well, this has been on my mind for awhile. Wouldn't it be cool if Misty made a line of children's books about some of her characters. I know all of us would buy them for ourselves as well as for all the children in our lives. Wouldn't it be great to be able to get kids started early on Misty? A good book to start with would be with the song/poem about the Lizard Wizard Kethry tells about at one point. That song is great and it would make a perfect book for children. I would love to get my niece into Misty at her young age of 5. ***************************************************************** Ari and Mandeline dmarrone-+AT+-ic.sunysb.edu "Gravity is a habit that is hard to shake off." - Terry Pratchett "I drank what?!" - The last words spoken by Socrates . . . ****************************************************************** In case of emergency, break glass. Scream. Bleed to death. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:58 -0500 From: Julia Gray To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Children's books Message-ID: <37963E2E.56F7AF35-+AT+-oakton.edu> Danielle May Marrone wrote: > Wouldn't it be cool if Misty > made a line of children's books about some of her characters. *snip*A good > book to start with would be with the song/poem about the > Lizard Wizard Kethry tells about at one point. do you mean the founder of the White winds school - a hertasi? That could be a good book (not just for children :-) But I agree it would be nice to have a light book, well illustrated, that little kids could get into. Betha'lis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Jadzia To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: outliving companions Message-ID: <19990721232407.23384.rocketmail-+AT+-web220.mail.yahoo.com> --- Adrianne.Cook-+AT+-wiley.com wrote: < It's already been established that a Companion can live without their Herald (Rolan and 'Fandes, I think, are examples of this) rolan i can understand -- he's grove-born, and whatever rules exist for *normal* companions go out the window for them, but how is 'fandes an example of this? she hadn't chosen before van. >> One of the books, I can't remember if it was a LHM or a AoQ, explained that Companions die when their Chosen die. This was explained in MPrice, because they were discussing the fact that usually Companions have time to say goodbye before going. But, maybe the shock of (the guy who slipped on the icy roof and fell)'s death was too much for the Companion to handle so he died immediately, alone in a corner of C. Field. I think it was in AoQ that we discovered that this does not apply to Queen's Own Companion. This particular Companion always (unless he dies in battle or some other way) searches out the next worthy Queen's Own and Chooses him/her. Rolan was the Companion of the previous QO, so he went out to search for the next QO. Here have some sheep-shaped divinity. Jadzia "Do werewolves dream of shape-shifted sheep." -- Circus of the Damned by Laurell K. Hamilton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:15:13 EDT From: EarthSongW-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: outliving companions Message-ID: yfandes died with vanyel, she carried stephan back for help and then retruned to vanyels side, then vanyel did final strike and everyone died... at least i'm pretty sure of that... ~~Justyn EarthSong~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Danielle May Marrone To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: outliving companions Message-ID: ----On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Jadzia wrote:---- > One of the books, I can't remember if it was a LHM or > a AoQ, explained that Companions die when their Chosen > die. This was explained in MPrice, because they were > discussing the fact that usually Companions have time > to say goodbye before going. But, maybe the shock of > (the guy who slipped on the icy roof and fell)'s death > was too much for the Companion to handle so he died > immediately, alone in a corner of C. Field. I thought the companion was killed at the same time or just after his chosen's death happened by whatever had killed the chosen. Or am I remembering incorrectly? Maybe it was a diffrent chosen and companion? ----On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Julia Gray wrote:----- > > Wouldn't it be cool if Misty made a line of children's books about some of her characters. *snip*A good book to start with would be with the song/poem about the Lizard Wizard Kethry tells about at one point. > Do you mean the founder of the White winds school - a hertasi? That could be a good book (not just for children :-) But I agree it would be nice to have a light book, well illustrated, that little kids could get into. Yup!!! That's the one. My brain couldn't remember anything properly, so I described it the best I could. I think his name started with a 'G'. May the moon light your path, ARI ***************************************************************** Ari and Mandeline dmarrone-+AT+-ic.sunysb.edu "Gravity is a habit that is hard to shake off." - Terry Pratchett "I drank what?!" - The last words spoken by Socrates . . . ****************************************************************** In case of emergency, break glass. Scream. Bleed to death. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:48:38 -0500 From: Anna Borisovna To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: outliving companions Message-ID: <37967876.C582EB92-+AT+-mediaone.net> i'm getting into the middle of the conversation, and don't know what was said previously, but.... frm what i know, companions don't outlive heralds. when stefen died, his companion died soonafter. the same thing with Vanyel. As for vice versa, i'm not sure if it has ever been documented whether a herald can outlive a companion. but i'd THINK That it was possible, because when Stefen's companion repudiated him, he still lived. Thats sort of like losing your companion..... Anna EarthSongW-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > yfandes died with vanyel, she carried stephan back for help and then retruned > to vanyels side, then vanyel did final strike and everyone died... at least > i'm pretty sure of that... > ~~Justyn EarthSong~~ ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2027 **********************************