MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2033

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) MLML Reincarnation
	by Peter Allen <minterra-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  2) Companions, Reincarnation
	by "Hill, Susan" <hills-+AT+-wdni.com>
  3) Spoilers (was Re: MLML Reincarnation)
	by Kenneth Allen Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  4) Re: Companions, Reincarnation
	by Kerowyn73-+AT+-aol.com
  5) Re: MLML Reincarnation
	by dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:23:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Allen <minterra-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: MLML Reincarnation
Message-ID: <19990727162321.9445.rocketmail-+AT+-web601.yahoomail.com>

Sara wrote:
> Is there any indication that Companions are
> reincarnated as Heralds?  

   While I can't think of any examples off of the top
of my head (hey, just woke up.. need coffee *g*),
there is a lot of implying that Misty does in that
direction. 

   If you haven't yet read Last HErald Mage, you might
want to skip to below :).

   We've got direct evidence from Vanyel in LHM that
Heralds are given the chance to either go off to the
Havens, or return back to Velgarth in one form or the
other. It would make sense that if the HEralds could
do so, so could the Companions :).


> It occured to me that maybe some of the source of
> the wisdom of the Monarch's Own might be due to
> having been a Companion in a previous existence.

   It's entirely possible. It's also been specualted
on the list that the Monarch's Own used to be a
king/queen , and so they know intuitively what it is
that needed to be done. That, or MOC (Monarch's Own
Companion) is the one that has the memories intact,
and gives hints and such to his Herald, who in turn
lets the monarch know it.

>  Or maybe the Monarch's Own get reincarnated as 
> Monarch's Own until their time is done.

   It might be just that I'm still fuzzy-headed, but
how did you mean this? I couldn't quite understand
what you were getting at. *sheeps*

---

   Someone (I'm not sure who) asked what the set plan
was for needing spoiler space for any of Misty's
works. IIRC, any new book of Misty's requires three
months of spoiler space. After that time, you're able
to quote and discuss it as you like, but it gives most
people at least a chance to have gone out and bought
it or looked at it.

   The way that you can give spoiler space is either
by putting Spoiler in the subject of your e-mail (if
that's all that you are going to be discussing), or
putting spoiler space in it if you are braiding :).

   *Wintershard looks to all of the oldies on the list
for confirmation of this, then spies a coffee maker
over Fireheart's shoulder, and bounds after it, giving
the morning battle cry of... wait, nevermind... let's
just say that he blearily stumbles towards it, arms
outstretched, going, "Coffee...."*

Bright be thy day in the sun,
   Wintershard
   Councilor of Mist
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:34:07 -0700
From: "Hill, Susan" <hills-+AT+-wdni.com>
To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Companions, Reincarnation
Message-ID: <872A9D7CC09CD11188CE00805FBB042E03A034DA-+AT+-emswwc7.weyer.com>

Okay, yes, Heralds are reincarnated as Companions....if they choose. I
believe in the conversation Van had with Stef at the end of MPrice, he says
something about that.... But the Monarch's Own is a "young soul" - if you
read the Mage Winds book where Elsepth&Co. end up in Sorrows talking to Van,
there's more about that, but basically, the MOCompanion is not a previous
herald. As evidenced by some of Gwena's very childish behavior at some
points. <suzi taking a swipe at miss priss gwena....I just can't STAND
people who think they know better than you do and then try to manipulate you
to do what they think is right....>

Now, MY question is - Do they continue to come back? I mean, we have Sayvil
showing up (not very well disgusied, I might add :)  ) in as Kero's
companion.... has she shown up sooner? Why now? Is this her first stint as a
companion....etc...

And why hasn't any one figured this out? More Companion magic screwing with
the populace's cognitive abilities? It seems many non Valdemarians recognize
the Companions for what they are.... Does anyone else think this mass
brainwashing is a little underhanded? :) (Suzi = devil's advocate) No one
true way, I suppose. I do know, I wouldn't appreciate people mucking with my
head, though. How ever well meaning their intentions.

Next question - Kris's companion - could that have been Tantras, from
Vanyel's time?

I also noticed that the Firecats? <I forget their "title" - but you know,
Karal's buddy, and Hansa) are similarly "Evolved." Just fewer of them I
guess. 

toodles, 
Suzi


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> From: 	dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph[SMTP:dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph] (Sarra)
> Is there any indication that Companions are reincarnated as Heralds?  
> It occured to me that maybe some of the source of the wisdom of 
> the Monarch's Own might be due to having been a Companion in a 
> previous existence.  
> 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:54:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kenneth Allen Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Spoilers (was Re: MLML Reincarnation)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.9907272147400.18332-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Peter Allen wrote:

> IIRC, any new book of Misty's requires three months of spoiler space.
> After that time, you're able to quote and discuss it as you like
> [snip] *Wintershard looks to all of the oldies on the list for
> confirmation of this....

The exact details are in the Newbiefest
<http://www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/pers/lackey/newbiefest.html>, but as I
remember it, all books that are available in hardback only are in
spoilers, and paperbacks need to have been available for 3 to 6 months
(but spoiler warning for up to a year after paperback release are nice for
the non-Americans distribution, which can be up to a year behind the
American distribution).  BTW, for our British contingent, at least, you
can comfort yourselves with the realization that Terry Pratchett's books
usually have a 2-year or longer delay on their American release.  So, a
one year delay for Misty isn't quite so bad as it could be.

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd
Councilor of Mist

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me

//www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/prof/ken.html



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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:51:44 EDT
From: Kerowyn73-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Companions, Reincarnation
Message-ID: <fb5c1f50.24d01090-+AT+-aol.com>

In a message dated 7/27/99 11:48:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
hills-+AT+-wdni.com writes:

<< Okay, yes, Heralds are reincarnated as Companions....if they choose. I
 believe in the conversation Van had with Stef at the end of MPrice, he says
 something about that.... But the Monarch's Own is a "young soul" - if you
 read the Mage Winds book where Elsepth&Co. end up in Sorrows talking to Van,
 there's more about that, but basically, the MOCompanion is not a previous
 herald. As evidenced by some of Gwena's very childish behavior at some
 points. >>

Van is referring to Gwena here, but she was not the MOC. Rolan is MOC and 
Talia is the MOH (Monarch's Own Herald). 

~lurker~
Sionen

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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:30:41 +0000
From: dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: MLML Reincarnation
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F199907281715.AA153262MD67607-+AT+-amdg.com.ph>

Here's to coffee.
> >  Or maybe the Monarch's Own get reincarnated as 
> > Monarch's Own until their time is done.
> 
>    It might be just that I'm still fuzzy-headed, but
> how did you mean this? I couldn't quite understand
> what you were getting at. *sheeps*

Sorry about that.  Too much coffee.  I was trying to suggest that 
maybe the MOH continue to be reincarnated as MOH.  Fated to continue 
to serve or else part of their self-sacrificing nature.  What the HOC 
would be looking for then would not only be specific characteristics 
but also specific souls.

Caffeine soaked coffee flavored wired sheep for the needy,
Sara  


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