[LMB] An article referencing Herself at sequentialtart

[Paula Lieberman]

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From: "Tracy MacShane" <trix at queerscience.net>


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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:01:11 -0400, Sylvus Tarn <sylvus at rejiquar.com> 
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>> On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 17:05 +0100, queenortart wrote:
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>> As for sf romance---Um, what about Joan Vinge's _Snow Queen, Summer
>> Queen_ and most especially _Sorrow's End_---BZ Gundhalinu, oh,

_Sorrow's End_ ??

There are also strong romance elements in Tangled Up in Blue, set on Tiamat 
some years before The Snow Queen.

>> luscious...all three plots are driven by the protagonist's desire to
>> save their love and lovers.

> I think it's _World's End_ you're referring to with Joan Vinge. But yes, 
> fantastic books.

Yes, the book about BZ Gundalinu is World's End, and is in a very different 
style than the The Snow Queen and The Summer Queen.
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>> And yes, though Asaro's depictions of
>> relationships always seems to me weirdly skewed, there's no question
>> romance is a very strong theme in her work as well.
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> I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought it's because I'm not 
> heterosexual, but plenty of normal romance "works" for me just fine. I 
> don't like BDSM subtext, really. I prefer it to be overt, so that I can 
> assess if it's the squicky kind and avoid it, if necessary.
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> I'd include Melissa Scott's Trouble and Her Friends, and also one of the 
> fantasy books she wrote with Lisa A. Barnett (I forgot the name, but it's 
> a gay couple). And what about Anne McCaffrey? Most of her works, SF and 
> otherwise, have strong romance elements.

Points of Light or something like that.

> Regarding widdy's question, I think if romance is a strong sub-plot, you 
> can at least call the work SF/Romance. If romance were the main element, 
> then I'd reverse the order of the terms.

Various of Roger Zelazny's works had very strong romance elements--Lord of 
Light, the Venus story with door and lamps and eyes and moutn in the title, 
the Martian story, and others.