In a message dated 7/3/2006 11:57:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marna at marna.ca writes: The cheap Stanley one. Don't want to get blood on the Estwing; might rust it :) *also has a hockey stick* Marna. M: Good for you--take care of that Estwing. It's going to be pretty hard to get much of a swing with a hockey stick under the bed, though. Mary