[LMB] Re: OT: Grail Legends Rehashed

[B. Ross Ashley]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:05:38 -0400 (EDT), Elizabeth Holden <azurite at rogers.com>
wrote:


--- "B. Ross Ashley" <redlion at sff.net> wrote:


>> My own favourite bit of Templar/Masonic arcana is
>> the book _*The Second Messiah: Templars, the Turin
>> Shroud and the Great Secret of Freemasonry_, by
>> Knight and Lomas. 
>> 
>> Their point of departure from accepted reality is
>> the idea that the face on the Shroud of Turin is
>> that of the tortured Jacques de Molay.
>  
>

> What a great idea! I wish I'd thought of it.

> But I thought the Shroud of Turin dated to a good two
> or three centuries earlier than poor old Jacques.

> namaste,
> Elizabeth

> (wondering if this is an irrelevant quibble, in the
> strange annals of Templar/Grail conspiracy lore)

> (and who further wonders why, if I am as contemptuous
> of all this pseudo-history as I think I am, I have
> actually read so much of it)


Hmmm. The first historical mention of the Shroud is IIRC 1357, exhibited by Geoffrey II de Charny, in Lirey, France. Poor old Jacques was executed in 1314. That would fit. Of course the C14 dates for the cloth the shroud is made of are earlier, but that merely dates the cloth, not the image. 


-- 
B. Ross Ashley, lurves his conspiracy theories, especially since his politics is a *conspiratzia*