[LMB] request for factual help - the timeline
CatMtn at aol.com
CatMtn at aol.com
Sat Sep 1 19:12:53 BST 2007
In a message dated 8/31/2007 5:07:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blaise_writer at hotmail.com writes:
>That's a good point, and you're right, it is ship command rather than
formal rank that they're >discussing. I found the reference, and in the scene
Cordelia describes being 'promoted to captain', but actually in Shards she has
the rank of Commander during her first meeting with Aral, and only later has
the rank of Captain. I'm not really that clear on how the rank of Commander
fits in - in Shards Illyan is a Lieutenant, and at the start of Barrayar he's
a Commander, and only when Aral promotes him to chief of ImpSec does he get
the rank of Captain, but Miles and Ivan go straight from Lieutenant to Captain
and apparently have no expectation of being given the rank of Commander in
between.
>As for Aral, he says, 'I was a captain by twenty-eight.' He certainly
means ship command, since >he adds that ship duty suited him, but he could also
mean the rank as well. I'd guess he gets the rank as well as the command,
since he becomes an admiral so young, but it's not clear either way.
M:
Naval rank and all the other services' ranks are different. It's been said
that LMB uses naval rank when the person is on ship duty, and the army ranks
when they are on shore duty, but this doesn't seem to be exact.
Navy: Army,
Air Force, Marines:
Admiral of the Fleet Field
Marshal
Admiral General
Commodore Brigadier
Captain Colonel
Commander Lieutenant
Colonel
Lieutenant Commander Major
Lieutenant Captain
Lieutenant, Junior Grade 1st Lieutenant
Ensign 2nd
Lieutenant
This isn't exactly the same in all countries, of course. Anyway, the person
commanding a ship is always called "Captain," even if it's a small ship and
s/he's only a Lt. Jg. I doubt that there are many 28-29 year old naval
captains, other than those of lower rank commanding ships.
Mary
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