[LMB] Of Fen and Women
technomad at intergate.com
Thu Aug 21 00:54:23 BST 2008
Quoting Pat Mathews <mathews55 at msn.com>:
> On my way to Bubonicon this weekend, I remembered the woman at
> Denvention who had a black tote bag with all the patches of all her
> fandoms, and was thinking of decorating my old Cascadiacon bag
I wouldn't mind something like that myself. One for Mensa, one for my
(former, and still sympathetic) membership in the Richard III society,
and so on. I wonder where I could get those patches?
> I am, or was, a Darkover fan. And a Valdemar fan. And those are Not
> Respectable among the Serious Fen. Why? Well, take Valdemar. "Eew!
> It's so EMO! All that teenaged angst! All that Boy-meets-horse and
> Girl-meets horse stuff. It's for Children!" Or chicks. Middleaged
> adolescent girls with bad haircuts and fifty extra pounds and the
> slumped shoulders of one resigned to the Lesson of Janis Ian at
I used to like Valdemar---and still do sometimes. _Takes a Thief_
showed that _this_ time she'd done her flippin' _homework._ Matter of
fact, I think I might just know some of the books she consulted.
Unpack: What is "the lesson of Janis Ian?"
> In other words, it carries the same stigma as a Harlequin Romance,
> only in the fantasy world. It's hard to imagine the same scorn being
> heaped on "Eew! All those car chases! And property destruction! And
> imposible hot babes bursting out of their spandex bikinis!" That's
Oh, I don't know...depends on who you're talking with, I think.
> And those who write about geeks & nerds either assume that the
> population is all male, or all male with the handful of females who
> are both As Good As A Man and Really, Really Hot. Which latter
> exist, just as their male counterpart, the omnicompetent Heinlein
> hero, really existed. (Bob, meet Virginia. Virginia, meet Bob.)
Or A Bunch Of Luzers Who Can't Get Laid (Sharyn McCrumb, I'm lookin' at YOU!)
> Or is this just more whining from a fangirl who is neither into the
> boy stuff nor hot enough to interest the laddies?
I don't think there's _anybody_ who's into _every_ interest you find
at any reasonable-sized con. Panels that fascinate me leave others,
including good friends of mine, icy cold and wondering what I see in
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