[LMB] AKICOTL: Fathers and daughters in SF&F

Paula Lieberman paal at gis.net
Fri Apr 24 17:53:04 BST 2009

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From: "Tony Zbaraschuk" <tonyz at eskimo.com>
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> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 08:54:01AM -0400, Paula Lieberman wrote:
>> > _First Test_, _Page_, _Squire_ and _Lady Knight_ by Tamora Pierce -
>> > relationship with parents is mostly off stage, but affection, trust and
>> > support obvious between parents and daughter.
>> >
>> > _Tricker's Choice_ and _Trickster's Queen_ by Tamora Pierce - daughter 
>> > has
>> > a
>> > very good relationship with father, as they have a lot in common.
>> The Song of the Lioness by Pierce--neglectful father--not abusive, but 
>> not
>> paying much attention, either....
> This is _extremely_ common in books about children or YA types having
> adventures -- if the parents are actively taking care of things,
> there's not much _for_ the kids to do.

Diane Duane's Wizard books, the protagonists have parents who are not 
neglectful or abusive.
For that matter, Patricia Wrede's books the parents tend to not be 
abusive--I'm blanking on titles, but e.g.
- the book published by Tor in which the female lead goes to a city to 
retrieve the possessions of her dead mother, I think that the father was at 
home minding the family.  The story was about the daughter's adventures in 
trying to retrieve her mother's ring
- the book in which the female lead gets kidnapped early on, she's met with 
her family and the family is a mentally healthy one.  The author said that 
she had to rewrite the book because she realized that the daughter would NOT 
willingly have gone to where she had to get to, she was a dutiful 
responsible daughter and given her choice would have stayed home and not 
gone haring off into adventure.
- Caught in Crystal, the father is deceased, but the mother takes her two 
children along because they're her responsibilities and they want to come 
along--there isn't really much alternative.

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