[LMB] Malice Towers
phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu
Wed Apr 13 06:09:37 BST 2011
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:04:55PM -0700, Tony Zbaraschuk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:12:50PM -0700, Damien Sullivan wrote:
> > It's also possible that there were never any provable gods, and all the
> > "absent gods" stuff is post-apocalyptic lack of whatever the former
> > faith was in the face of mass death and desolation. Not all fantasy has
> > unambiguously present gods.
> I think that may be taking it too far -- all the evidence we have
> seems to indicate that there were once gods (or at least stories
> about gods, and in a universe like this are they really that
Stories about gods is a big difference from proof of actual gods.
> > (Heck, as noted, it's not clear even the
> > Chalionverse does, for a skeptic.)
> CoC works very well for that, up until the climax; the other two
> are somewhat harder on the skepticism. At any rate, all of the
> primary characters have direct encounters with one or another of
> the Five, so we as readers can be pretty sure that the gods
> exist in the 5GU.
Yes, we can. But a random skeptic within the universe has a lot less to
> That does open up the question: how do they know anything about
> the past? Dag, at least, is clear that (a) there are stories, and
> (b) nobody knows how reliable they are. So the Lakewalkers do
> have a historical consciousness -- which is not always an easy
> thing to maintain, and I think it's good that they have kept it
> going and are aware that the stories they tell are stories, not
> verified. It must be hard to keep that dual awareness going --
> in most cases, if you doubt the stories you just stop telling
> them over a few generations.
Aren't Lakewalkers literate?
-xx- Damien X-)
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