[LMB] OT: Ian McKellen Has Signed On To The Hobbit!

Royce McDaniels roycemcdaniels158 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 11 23:10:10 GMT 2011

hoo boy.

okay, first of all I'm a PJ "fan" but a Tolkein "fanatic". So while I'll
defend Tolkein's Middle Earth to insane degrees, I won't go that far for pj
and the movie adaptation. It wasn't perfect, far from it,  but it was far
far better than we had any right to expect.

that said, my take on the whole Haldir scene is that he hadn't yet been
briefed on what was going on. The ring's journey was supposed to be *secret*
and elves talk too much (see the discussion by gandalf in the first visit to
rivendell when the elves say hello) so i assume Celeborn and Galadriel were
aware it was "coming" but not details. Also, they expected Gandalf to get in
touch with them (magically, telepathically, whatever) when the fellowship
reached their lands and of course he didn't, being busy being reborn in
Moria. So only *after* Halder sent word that something horrible had arrived
out of moria did C and G realize what was happening and tell him, "geeze,
flower fairy, get those guys up here stat!" (Don't know what the elvish
would be for that, can't allow myself to remember how to speak it or i'll
lose it...)

so i think the scene was perfectably defensible, storywise...

retconning royce

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Joel Polowin <jpolowin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> [snip]

> Perfectionism?
> That's probably an argument that I shouldn't open up.  But I just
> watched _The Fellowship of the Ring_ over the last couple of days,
> and some bits still rankle for the make-no-sense-at-all factor.
> Haldir stops the party at Lothlorien and *tells them they can't
> come in* because they're "bearing great evil".  Celeborn and
> Galadriel are expecting them, it's a desperate situation and
> they have to be protected from their pursuers, not to mention
> that Aragorn is Galadriel and Celeborn's granddaughter's fiance',
> and this goob is telling them that they *can't come in*?!  I hope
> they busted him to *flower fairy*.
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