[LMB] A military question

Paula Lieberman paal at gis.net
Mon Sep 5 16:11:03 BST 2011

Op[erations] is live, real time military activities carrying out military 
It is NOT -planning- in advance for activities,  it is NOT research and 
development, it is NOT administrative stuff, it is the real-time engaging in 
activities carrying out military missions.
"Logistics" is the discipline and activities involved in figuring out how to 
get people and equipment to/from places, figuring out how to pre-position 
people and materiel  [yes, that spelling is deliberate, it's "materiel"] and 
move people and materiel around, and figuring out how much materiel and how 
many people are needed for what when and where.....

There are logistics -operations- of airlift, sealift, and other 
transportation activities hauling people and equipment around and delivering 
people and materiel to places and locations, the operations, again, are 
the -activities- of actively engaging in transporting the people and 
material around.

Sitting around in Cheyenne Mountain in the Space Defense Center (which was 
superseded later by newer computers systems and equipment in another part of 
the facility referred to as the Space Defense Operations Center) and in the 
Tactical Operations Room at the radar site at Thule Greenland, I was an "ops 
wienie" working in places staffed 24 X 7 reacting to what was going out on 
in the world regarding things getting launched that went however briefly 
into the exoatmosphere and calculating orbits, predicting flight 
trajectories, and -reacting- to what was going into and out of or merely 
circling around in the exoatmosphere, and helping keep track of all the 
stuff, much of which quite literally was/is junk....

-----Original Message----- 
From: Harimad
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:41 AM
To: Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold.
Subject: Re: [LMB] A military question


Ops definitely means Operations.  The question is, what does operations 
mean?  It could be logistics - which are damn important in a modern 
military.  It's said that good leaders worry about tactics, great ones about 
logistics - for example, Gen Eisenhower organizing D-Day.

Ops could also mean more active operations, such as spy ops or counterspy 
ops.  Using Eisenhower again, the many levels of operation to deceive the 
Nazis about where the D-Day invasion was going to happen.

(This had two main thrusts.[1]  One was the fact that every single spy 
Hitler thought he had in Britain, was actually controlled by Britain; this 
was called the XX or Double Cross system.  The Allies fed Hitler false 
invasion information through this network (including info fed after D-Day 
started, to make Hitler think Normandy was a feint).  The other was all the 
fake materiel created to fool Hitler's observers, aerial fly-overs, etc. 
Both were massive logistical as well as operational undertakings.

- Harimad

[1] Reasonable people can - and probably will - disagree about how many main 
thrusts there were in the D-Day deception operation(s).  To my mind these 
two are the most important.

--- On Wed, 7/13/11, beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com 
<beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com> wrote:

> From: beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com 
> <beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com>
> Subject: Re: [LMB] A military question
> To: "Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold." 
> <lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk>
> Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 1:43 AM
> Ops=Operations=Planning things.
> All the boring numbers-crunching and
> war-gaming that has to be done in a modern military to keep
> things running
> smoothly, make sure all units are where they are needed
> most with the most
> effective orders, with the people and materiel they
> need.  Think of it
> kind of like the Pentagon.
> Beatrice Otter
> > We all know that Ivan is in Ops.
> >
> > Just as a matter of interest, what does Ops actually
> do?
> >
> > Gwynne

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