[LMB] A military question
paal at gis.net
Mon Sep 5 16:11:03 BST 2011
Op[erations] is live, real time military activities carrying out military
It is NOT -planning- in advance for activities, it is NOT research and
development, it is NOT administrative stuff, it is the real-time engaging in
activities carrying out military missions.
"Logistics" is the discipline and activities involved in figuring out how to
get people and equipment to/from places, figuring out how to pre-position
people and materiel [yes, that spelling is deliberate, it's "materiel"] and
move people and materiel around, and figuring out how much materiel and how
many people are needed for what when and where.....
There are logistics -operations- of airlift, sealift, and other
transportation activities hauling people and equipment around and delivering
people and materiel to places and locations, the operations, again, are
the -activities- of actively engaging in transporting the people and
Sitting around in Cheyenne Mountain in the Space Defense Center (which was
superseded later by newer computers systems and equipment in another part of
the facility referred to as the Space Defense Operations Center) and in the
Tactical Operations Room at the radar site at Thule Greenland, I was an "ops
wienie" working in places staffed 24 X 7 reacting to what was going out on
in the world regarding things getting launched that went however briefly
into the exoatmosphere and calculating orbits, predicting flight
trajectories, and -reacting- to what was going into and out of or merely
circling around in the exoatmosphere, and helping keep track of all the
stuff, much of which quite literally was/is junk....
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:41 AM
To: Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold.
Subject: Re: [LMB] A military question
Ops definitely means Operations. The question is, what does operations
mean? It could be logistics - which are damn important in a modern
military. It's said that good leaders worry about tactics, great ones about
logistics - for example, Gen Eisenhower organizing D-Day.
Ops could also mean more active operations, such as spy ops or counterspy
ops. Using Eisenhower again, the many levels of operation to deceive the
Nazis about where the D-Day invasion was going to happen.
(This had two main thrusts. One was the fact that every single spy
Hitler thought he had in Britain, was actually controlled by Britain; this
was called the XX or Double Cross system. The Allies fed Hitler false
invasion information through this network (including info fed after D-Day
started, to make Hitler think Normandy was a feint). The other was all the
fake materiel created to fool Hitler's observers, aerial fly-overs, etc.
Both were massive logistical as well as operational undertakings.
 Reasonable people can - and probably will - disagree about how many main
thrusts there were in the D-Day deception operation(s). To my mind these
two are the most important.
--- On Wed, 7/13/11, beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com
<beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com> wrote:
> From: beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com
> <beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com>
> Subject: Re: [LMB] A military question
> To: "Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold."
> <lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk>
> Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 1:43 AM
> Ops=Operations=Planning things.
> All the boring numbers-crunching and
> war-gaming that has to be done in a modern military to keep
> things running
> smoothly, make sure all units are where they are needed
> most with the most
> effective orders, with the people and materiel they
> need. Think of it
> kind of like the Pentagon.
> Beatrice Otter
> > We all know that Ivan is in Ops.
> > Just as a matter of interest, what does Ops actually
> > Gwynne
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