[LMB] Rome and Babylon was re: Bringing it back to LMB [Was:OT: verging on
elbju at yahoo.se
Mon Sep 12 19:36:27 BST 2011
Mitch Miller wrote:
MM> >> As I said before, we humans are
MM> >> generally pretty awful even WITH religion.?
MM> Without it, all I see is
MM> >> Lord of the Flies.
MM> >> Mitch Miller
EB> >Then you should come to Sweden, where 85 per cent of
EB> the population have been classified as atheist in some
EB> studies; in any case, >regular church-goers are very much
EB> a minority, and most people do not see religion as an
EB> important part of their lives.
EB> >Oddly enough that does not mean we have no concept of
EB> kindness, decency, or justice. Nor would I say our society
EB> is particularly >Lord of the Flies-like.
MM> Good point. Although I'm not sure that a modern
MM> Western culture, evolved out of a deeply religious
MM> tradition, is quite
MM> the same as the Babylonian Empire, Rome, or the 18th Street
Well... all of those things you cite come from deeply religious traditions, too. Babylon and ancient Rome were not primarily inhabited by atheists: indeed, I suspect atheists were quite rare within those populations, and that Rome had many more devoutly religious people than modern Sweden does. I'm not a Classicist, but superficial reading has given me the impression that Romans believed that in order to be a person of good ethical standing - a virtuous man or woman - you should give the gods their due and worship them faithfully.
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