[LMB] Titles

Peter Granzeau pgranzeau at cox.net
Thu Sep 15 21:31:42 BST 2011


At 04:38 PM 9/14/2011, Howard Brazee wrote:

>On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Peter Granzeau wrote:
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>> At 09:29 AM 9/14/2011, Howard Brazee wrote:
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>>> On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Peter Granzeau wrote:
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>>>> I believe it was Henry VII who first became "Your Majesty" instead of "Your Grace".  Note that he was the first non-Plantagent Kind of England.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I tend to laugh at such titles, especially when I look at their origins.  And especially when I look at the titles used for a "humble" position such as a church official.   "The Most Reverend" is a title?
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>> It's an honorific, not a title.  A title would be "Bishop" or "Rector".  I don't mind honorifics in general, but I do dislike calling bible thumpers "Reverend", so essentially I agree with you.  Luckily, some denominations have other honorifics ("Pastor", for instance).
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>When an honorific goes to everybody with that job title - I question how much it is an honorific and how much it is a title.    Is every king majestic?   Does every "your grace" deserve thanks from his people?

"Your Majesty" at one time was reserved for the Holy Roman Emperor.

"Your Grace" has survived--Spanish "Usted" (third person used instead of second person "tu") has its roots in "Vuestra Merced" which means "Your Grace", I believe.


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Regards, Pete
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