[LMB] Medieval parliaments

Pat Mathews mathews55 at msn.com
Sun Sep 18 23:21:42 BST 2011

No, not recent discussion, but with the recent release of Tears of the Sun, I thought it was time to revisit the issue. The only response I got so far was someone saying "Iceland". 


> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:15:02 -0700
> From: phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu
> To: lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [LMB] Medieval parliaments
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:50:18PM -0600, Pat Mathews wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you. I hope it sparks a lot of discussion and even some fanfic.
> Then there's my rants about how there's a reason we call the Dark Ages
> that, and how medieval feudalism is not the normal state of the past
> but, y'know, a dark age *after* the centralized bureaucratic empires of
> the Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, plus not just the Chinese
> but the Aztecs, Incas...
> Not that it's not a common response to total social breakdown, because
> it is, but key word there: breakdown.  (Also a response to gradual
> social breakdown, like de-monetization.)
> And of course history gives us little model for what happens to a 100%
> literate population with deep democratic traditions under deep stress.
> Emberverse survivors turning to Big Men doesn't seem impossible; having
> that be a uniform response seems unrealistically simplistic.
> Has there been recent discussion of this, or are you droping in a
> conversation bomb?  I tried rejoining the list to look at the archives
> but apparently I have to be approved.
> -xx- Damien X-) 
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