[LMB] why we still need paper books

Paula Lieberman paal at gis.net
Thu Sep 22 06:39:45 BST 2011

I KNEW the costs for putting in buried fiber optic cable per mile, 25 years 
ago. It was NOT $40,000 a mile.   And the price has dropped majorly since 
then  (the technique used is a lot less expensive than most people realize, 
and it goes in very quickly. k. What the commercial company claims it costs, 
and the actual costs, are NOT the same.... I still remember AT&T's claim 
decades ago that it would take 20 years and 20 billion dollars to replace 
their long lines copper with fiber optic, when the US Government asked with 
it would take... then Sprint and other competition showed up, and AT&T did 
it in under 5 years, for a LOT less than $20 billion.... Basically, AT&T 
didn't WANT to replace the copper with fiber optic, AT& only did so because 
competition showed up with WAS putting in a fiber optic backbone system...

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From: phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:28 AM
To: Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold.
Subject: Re: [LMB] why we still need paper books

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 07:30:48AM -0700, Becca wrote:
> We live half way between Ann Arbor and Brighton in SE Michigan - two
> metropolitan areas. Our little town has broadband... up to about a
> mile from our house. We live far enough out in the country that it's
> not worth the while of the cable companies to wire us. The telephone

> There is no indication that this situation will change. Not sooner, not 
> later.

Living a mile from your neighbors has costs...

It's surpisingly hard to find costs per mile of lines.  Best I can find
is $1-6 million for power lines, and maybe as low as $40,000 per mile
for rural fiber.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:39:07PM -0400, Paula Lieberman wrote:

> Once upon a time also, localities owned and ran their own power and
> light companies as municipal businesses owned by the localities.

You still need a certain level of local population density to make the
utility work affordably.  Municipal ownership won't help if homes are a
half mile apart.

-xx- Damien X-)
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