[LMB] OT: Saudi Arabia more democratic than Barrayar

Pat Mathews mathews55 at msn.com
Sun Sep 25 19:06:20 BST 2011

Yes. Now, that makes sense. Thanks.


> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:01:46 -0700
> From: phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu
> To: lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [LMB] OT: Saudi Arabia more democratic than Barrayar
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:52:51AM -0700, RICHARD G. MOLPUS wrote:
> > Dorca Vorbarra unified the independent regions into one coherent body,
> > forming the Barrayaran Empire; that seems to have been recent -
> > perhaps  within the memory of Ezar or Piotr.
> I think it's got to be a lot older than that.  The Counts were Varadar
> Tau's tax collectors and accountants.  And the mystique and majesty of
> the Emperor and his Auditors doesn't seem like it'd arise in 100 years
> of war-torn modernization.  A Sengoku model makes more sense to me: a
> rather older Imperium, but one that lost power to the Counts for at
> least a century and probably more, before being re-unified and
> semi-pacified by Dorca.  Unitary state, decentralization and feudalism,
> unitary state again.  Possibly with a continuous but largely ignored
> line of Vorbarra Emperors in the middle.  Or maybe more wars over the
> throne.
> -xx- Damien X-) 
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