[LMB] OT: Saudi Arabia more democratic than Barrayar

Pat Mathews mathews55 at msn.com
Mon Sep 26 02:53:00 BST 2011


I note "The Germanies" were what resulted when "The Holy Roman Empire" became, essentially, a name only. Did the Italian petty states form in the Renaissance, or during and after the breakup of the Roman Empire? Because I may be seeing a pattern here. 


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> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:41:55 -0400
> From: kbarry at bitsofhistory.com
> To: lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [LMB] OT: Saudi Arabia more democratic than Barrayar
> 
> On 9/25/2011 9:39 PM, Tony Zbaraschuk wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 06:13:33PM -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Pat Mathews wrote:
> >>
> >>> How long has Barrayar been anything you could call a nation, rather than a collection of 60 petty principalities?
> >>
> >>
> >> Interesting question.   I wonder if there are historical nations on Earth where such a question is debatable.
> >
> > Italy, certainly.
> >
> >
> > Tony Z
> 
> Add Germany to the list.
> 
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