[LMB] Re-reading saturation

Paula Lieberman paal at gis.net
Sun Apr 15 01:43:21 BST 2012

Summon the Keeper DOES have lots of silliness--having the protagonist, who's 
in her twenties, run into a male Newfie (Newfoundlander), is VERY 
silly--Newfies are to Canada and Aggies are to to the USA--the butts of 
jokes, and the -willing- butts of jokes.   And especially, not only is he a 
Newfe, he's -younger- than she is.

This is very, very, VERY silly.   The instant he appears on the scene, 
younger than the viewpoint character, and a Newfoundlander, it was ROFLMAO 

Other sillinesses include the running "Feed the cat!" line  and the cat. 
wanting what the protagonist eats, NOT cat food....

(Since I'm from New England and live in New England, and there is a lot of 
cultural back and forth with New England and the Canadian maritime 
_provinces and Quebec, there's a strong awareness of Newfie jokes and them 
as part of Canadian culture, here....)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Michael Voss
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:11 AM
To: Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold.
Subject: Re: [LMB] Re-reading saturation

----- Original Message -----
> From: Gwynne Powell <gwynnepowell at hotmail.com>
>> From: BlueRose stacey at xtra.co.nz
>> I would also like to chime in on Michaels recommendation for Tanya Huff,
>> I think I burbled enthusiastically about EE and WW when WW came out a
>> few months ago (and will happily continue to do so)
>> I loved her Summon the Keepers series, its the series that turned me on
>> to her.  I had read the Blood Ties books but in relation to watching the
>> TV series, I need to read them on their own.  And I have just the last
>> of the Valor books to read and yes they are a worthy followup to Miles
>> if you are a military fan.
>> The only ones of hers I wasnt a huge fan off was the Shadow series, a
>> spin off from Blood Ties.
> I'm just finishing the Valour series, it's a great read but I don't
> think I'll
> reread them as frequently and comfortably as I do Lois's work. They
> might get a second look, probably no more.

I'll probably get back to these sooner if another book in the series 
My only interest in going back to them now would be to assess the quality
of their writing, after more recently noting how well-written both newer
(EE & WW) and older (Fire's Stone and Gate of Darkness) Huff books
have been.

> I've tried a few of her others - the Enchanted Emporium and Summon
> the Keeper. If I hadn't started Valour first I don't think I'd have
> gone on
> with more of hers. I found both of those rather irritating at first, they
> grew on me enough to get me through them, but they won't make my
> favourites list.

EE was irritating in terms of throwing the reader into a new and unfamiliar
world with no explanations whatever. Once past that first chapter, however,
I was fairly hooked, although certain details just never get adequately 
even in the sequel. Huff trusts her reader to infer a lot from context, and
presumably doesn't care if the reader's interpretation matches her own :-)
I can live with that, but understand if others can't.

Summon the Keeper irritated me much more fully: fairly heavy humor
that at times hit just the right spot, but at others was downright silly
(one battle between Keepers being responsible for Vesuvius,
another for disco is onenotable example, and an overused Elvis
pastiche another).

> Haven't made it to the vampire stuff yet. And I might not - I need a
> lot of enticement to head into all that.

I hear you - despite 7 years of addiction to Buffy, vampire lit holds
little or no attraction for me, and must come in fairly small doses.
Lois, undoubtedly, could build the better vampire, but "standard"
fare without the Whedonesque twists and turns of Buffy and Angel
won't hold my interest easily. Hopefully when I get there Huff will offer
a bit of creativity to the genre.

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