[LMB] universal health care - Apologies if this fails the US politics ban

Antoine Guillaud antoineperso at gmail.com
Fri Dec 14 14:24:17 GMT 2012


And do you have a better alternative?

Sure everywhere we learn about "rationalization" "optimization" and other
nice words which cover cost-cuttings and I agree that the balance sheet
must be... balanced. :)

I just think that societies where UHC is the rule are better off than
societies where private healthcare is the only choice.

Antoine


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Pat Mathews <mathews55 at msn.com> wrote:

>
> I can see one downside to UHC, though.
>
> When times are hard, people cut costs. Or when the bean counters decide
> something is not being administered efficiently, institutions often go on a
> cost-cutting spree. And if parties determined to cut back on government
> services get into power, government agencies lose funding.
>
> So while I can't see UHC being used as a tool against enemies of the
> state, barring a massive downhill slide, I can certainly see efforts to
> deny claims, deny services, steer people into cheaper alternatives, longer
> waits, higher co-pays, whatever ... how many people are seeing this happen
> to their own public services?
>
> And if there is no alternative for those without excess money, this could
> work some serious hardships. I have a list friend in Canada who reports
> that such a squeeze is beginning in her own province as we speak.
>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 03:49:02 -0800
> > From: azurite at rogers.com
> > To: lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk
> > Subject: Re: [LMB] universal health care - Apologies if this fails the
> US     politics ban
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 12/14/12, Damien Sullivan <phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > There's over two dozen countries with UHC. Your fears
> > > describe none of them.  Reality is that they mostly live longer than
> the
> > > US, while spending half as much on health care.
> >
> > Our UHC system is terrific.  I've had emergencies and non-emergencies,
> surgery and treatment for depression.  And, currently, specialists for
> Sjogren's Syndrome.  It has all worked well.
> >
> > I can't see a down side.
> >
> > Life would be a lot harder if we didn't have this.
> >
> > namaste,
> > Elizabeth
> >
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