[LMB] Barrayaran ethnicities, was English does not include Scottish

fishman at panix.com fishman at panix.com
Fri May 10 00:48:01 BST 2013


How about Voryisroel? ;-)

Harvey

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On May 9, 2013, at 18:38, Pat Mathews <mathews55 at msn.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm still waiting to see Vorcohen and Vorlevi. 
> 
>> Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 15:39:56 -0500
>> From: lbujold at myinfmail.com
>> To: lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk
>> Subject: [LMB]  Barrayaran ethnicities, was English does not include Scottish
>> 
>> [LMB] OT: English does not include Scottish
>> Margaret Dean margdean56 at gmail.com
>> Thu May 9 21:09:54 BST 2013
>> 
>> 
>> Margaret Dean:  Ethnic and linguistic questions aside, there must have 
>> been at least some
>> Scottish ancestry among the Firsters.  Otherwise, where did Vormuir come
>> from (besides being a Tuckerism, I mean)?
>> 
>> 
>> LMB:  Aye.
>> 
>> Although the Barrayaran Firsters are posited as coming from a few 
>> limited regions of Earth mumble-hundred years in our future, one must 
>> suppose said regions will not be _less_ ethnically and racially mixed 
>> that they are now.  Which is part of why the average Barrayaran is 
>> described as having rather Mediterranean looks, that region having been 
>> a crossroads and melting pot for millennia.
>> 
>> So, really, _any_ Old Earth surname is theoretically possible to pop up 
>> on ToI Barrayar, although such things being what they are over time, a 
>> lot of the original patronyms will have died out naturally, through the 
>> progenitors dying without issue or having only girls. (In the latter 
>> case, of course, the genes flow on.)  Ditto languages only spoken by a 
>> few Firsters.
>> 
>> French and German used to be socially constructed as two different 
>> "races", at various historical times; they aren't anymore, at least not 
>> in America.  (There may still be a few unreconstructed Frenchman or 
>> Germans who hold a different view.)  Emigration appears to have a 
>> breaking-down effect on source-country boundaries and finer gradations 
>> of these constructed distinctions, racial, social, and linguistic.
>> 
>> Ta, L.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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