[LMB] The Law on Barrayar

Sylvia McIvers sylviamcivers at gmail.com
Wed Dec 10 21:00:23 GMT 2014


Gentlefolk,
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Please trim your posts

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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Karen Hunt <huntkc at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Lois McMaster Bujold <
> lbujold at myinfmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > Aral mentions both qualifications
> > >
> > > == Barrayar/ CH
> > > "I see." He smiled a little. "Lieutenant Koudelka, as your commanding
> > > officer and a vassal secundus to Ezar Vorbarra, I am officially issuing
> > you
> > > this weapon of mine, to carry in the service of the Emperor, long may
> he
> > > rule."
> > >
> >
> > Karen Hunt:  Vassal Secundus does not mean Regent, though. Miles is a
> > vassal secundus in
> > The Warrior's Apprentice, probably because he's a Count's heir (which
> Aral
> > is during _Barrayar_ as well). Mark is not-yet-sworn as such during
> Mirror
> > Dance, when he was not precisely a Count's heir as well.
> >
> > There might be other ways to be a vassal secundus, but that's all we have
> > in textev.
> >
> >
> > LMB:  Something I never had a chance to mention in the books was that
> that
> > title -- vassal secundus -- is for a count's heir; a count would be a
> > vassal primus.  I don't know if there are other descending gradations.
> >
> >
> I can think of one type of candidate for a member of some lower gradation:
>
> From The Warrior's Apprentice:
> Jesek's mouth fell open. "You can't—I'm not—nobody but one of the Emperor's
> designated officers can swear a vassal, and I was already sworn to him when
> I got my commission—and forsworn when—" he broke off.
>
> Those designated officers have the right to swear in new military officers,
> and as such, presumably have some kind of special relation to the Emperor.
>
> I can't think of anyone else offhand who are in some kind of special
> allowed-to-swear-others role relative to the Emperor, though some might
> exist.
>
> Karen Hunt
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